Manilla 2d, am i the only one who doesnt like it? - Touch GSM General

Every new rom seems to come with manilla 2d, and i admit it looks fance when ur used to htc home, but like the home plugin, i usually disable them cuz i think it too slow to use, and with the right shortcuts everything is more accessible without home plugin and manilla. am i the only one who thinks its boring to use?
i wish every rom came in 2 versions, 1 with and 1 without manilla.

iam wid u too
its meant mainly for higher storage models & powerful processors
i also wish if rom comes with option u mentioned above

in fairness most ROM's do have a 'lite' version where they dont install m2d, i prefer winterface or rltoday, smaller footprints.

I like it. I see it as HTC Home matured. I actually prefer it over TouchFlo3D in the sense it uses less resources, accomplishes the same thing, and is easier to customize. It makes it more non-nerd friendly while giving them the power of WinMo without having to know where everything is (START, PROGRAMS, etc) or having to leave the homescreen.
Runs great on my Wizard as well as my Kaiser. That says something considering the Wizard is 1/2 as powerful.
-Mc

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Ultimate Launch > Throttle Launcher; Should I switch

I've been using and paid for Ultimate Launch for some time but now this throttle launcher is getting such big buzz surrounding it, should (why) I switch. Beside it being free (that's of no benefit now since I've purchased UL) can someone give me a feature comparison?
I've moved to the throttle and i like it. As it's free you can try and than choose what you like more. And you can do a cool thing with these 2. You set Throttle on your today screen, then you put ultimate launch in your weather/music panel, and in UL choose Throttle for one of the tabs))) And see if your device freeses or not)) My touch got frozen))
I recommend you at least try it, especially with the manila theme. Personally, I prefer it over Ultimate Launch.
WM Today is basically a place for plugins, and the launch of Touch's HTC Home is one of the fairly good comprehensive plugins that I know of, I have tried some one-off package like Throttle, Ultimate Launch, Wisbar also combination of plugins.
I found that Wisbar is fully customizable, may be too customizable, it takes long long time to get what you really want.
Ultimate Launch provide an interface that you can embed the current plugins into it and yet provide a very user friendly gesture control interface, but it is bounded by the fact that because it lets you to embed your current plugins, so that the interface cannot be too far off from the original taste.
Throttle is basically a mimic of the Diamond TouchFlo 3D on QVGA device, it is smooth and yet very customizable.
I am now using a combination of rlToday + UL + BS and looking forward to the launch of the Throttle v1.0
I'm a hardcore Throttle user all my roms have it cooked in... I also happen to be a beta tester so I have time to update my roms with the new futures so they are ready for the new stuff included in every version of throttle released..... and APBilbo is amazing me with every new test version and now I make roms without almost all the HTC stuff... no more HTC Cube, Action screen, Homeplug, Long press endkey, Audio Manager and almost no need for the comm manager (will be gone soon) so I've saved alot of space by using throttle... one more good thing is that my whole setup of throttle is less then 1 MB so by deactivation throttle you have an almost clean rom
+1 to gullums Review..im also a betatester for ThrottleLauncher..but have been buzy these days
throttle for sure
i prefer throttle over UL for the simple reason that i can toggle between, tf3d, wm7, htc home theme, whenever i like just by choosing the new theme in throttle config
on the other hand i hate creating themes in UL, too long to make and confusing
I tried throttle launcher on my cruise, and it was very slow in redrawing the display, and the lower app ribbon did not seem natural to use (if I presses on of the icons, it jumped around erratically). So I decided to use spb mobile shell and the diamond theme.
Having said that, I plan to try the new version when it is release, as I think can be a very nice interface.
I went through alot of different programs and setups before I go involved with the throttle beta, and I personally think it's a beautiful set it and forget it solution. I've got my skin exactly where I want it and don't even think about changing anymore.

Best iPhone theme or program for Sprint Touch?

I am trying to find the best program or theme to make my Sprint Touch more like the iPhone. I like the large icons and easy finger access like the iPhone has. Right now I use Wisbar Advance 3 for a better taskbar, but I don't like using my stylus all the time.
I see there are a lot of choices to make my Sprint Touch like the iPhone, but which is the best.
You have Wisbar Advance Desktop (itorx iphone theme). You have iFonz (but 1.00 has some problems). I think rltoday program. There is Winterface from Vito technology, looks promising, but it is incomplete. There is SPB mobile shell 2.1, but it is not really like the iphone, plus I just didn't like it.
What do you think? I am missing another theme or program. What do you think will work best on the Touch?
truthfully ifonz is the best iphone clone.
try 0.9.9 i didnt have any problems with that one.
or try throttle launcher. not iphone looking at all but very finger friendly, or at least for me it.
PointUI Home.
check out Itask. It work's great. Comes with several programs and great sub menus easy to access info. Works with flash lite.
When I first got my Touch I spent hours trying to customize iPhone-like programs, most are too slow and the good ones like iTask are hard to customize and last I checked not updated at all.
I preference for a superior interface is the Spb Mobile Shell 2.1 with the littlerain's Windows 7 skin. It's finger friendly and easy to use interface, in some ways a bit better than the iPhone's interface. Just my preference, there are tons of skins even one's that make it look like the new HTC Diamond.
ifonz
ifonze is nice but it takes some time to set up and is slow to respond. there is an htc customizer that is also nice using std oem rom. Both can work at the same time. I still have hope for ifonze but the usefulness is fading fast with the slow response and tedious set up.

Which according to you is the best Panel to use on SEX1 ?

Which one is the best according to you for regular use? (not asking for listening to music or using FB)
at the moment i prefer PointUI Home2, i think the Pro version is gonna be great, if more plugins keep coming
Pointui Home2 is the best by far.
Its easy to use,
install direct as a pannel no messing about,
very Fast,
easy to change themes,
applets are awesome just pick what ones you need,
very fast releases on new themes and applets,
exellent support from the site
and best of all its all free.
they are even working on a music applet to play music from the home screen.
other pannels seem slow, un customisable and dont have all the features you need.
i have mannila pannel, navigation pannel and the generic pannels supplied. mannila is good but hard to customise.
i like the fish pannel but its not practical, just good for showing off.
The best is the original SE Panel (1, 2, MxP, etc).
TF3D is less responsive, and once installed, make the X1 very slow (compared to an original X1) in many action.
I also think that PointUI Home2 is the best panel ... I hardly ever use touchflow .. every now and then spb mobile shell however the one I use the most is probably the standard today screen with resco contact manager etc.
Generally I switch between panels a lot though ... its great fun
I don't like PointUI and I find TF3D not well adapted yet
I love the fish panel, and chicks love it too
the fish thingy is good for entertaining my kid... thats about it
i think the whole concept of panels is just stupid:
-slow and poorly implemented and programed takes about 10 seconds to do something that can easily be done 2 seconds with a shortcut
-to me, its seems only good to show off to dumb friends.
-not good for practical use. none of the x1 uesers i know depend on it
-im sure sony delayed the release of the phone at least 3-4 months just to get it working fine.... they never did and even if they did, no one really cares
I love the panels.
I constantly switch between 2 SE Panels, one of them rich of functions and apps,
the other plain and esthetic.
I also love the Media panel.
Definitely great concept for me, since you can have completely different homescreens, with all apps available still through the normal menus.
Awesome.
@ GRIZZ, you're missing the point if you think you're supposed to use the panels to go from program to program. I love the panels because I use them sort of like profiles. For work I use the original SE Panel and PointUI, for weekends and evenings I'll use PointUi or occasionally Manilla and for bedtime I use the fish panel. I'm not constantly changing panels during the day, only as I transition from work to play, etc.
BTW, the PointUI qualifies for me as the "best in show" for the reasons mentioned by the previous poster.
am using Pointui Home2 and waiting for the next update in the next 48hrs which has loads of new features making it even easier and more intuitive to use... was a huge spb fan but found it too plain - Home2 is totally customizeable and with the development community releasing new themes and apps every day its become easier to use than anything else so far...
I'm with the Grizz - panels are pretty silly. The concept isn't bad, but it never feels right to use a button press, then a screen press (or two), then wait 10 more seconds for the panel to creep up.
If the X button could just shuffle through them quickly, they would be great.
I'm not sure I understand why SPB mobile shell can snap between screens instantaneously, but when I switch to an SE panel, I can almost see each individual icon being drawn...
Microsoft Today
yeah! you heard it right. it is the best. if i want more information i use today plugins. it is the most efficient way ofgetting the information i want. all other panels i use them to impress people. especially manila touchflo3d. its more annoying than useful.
i think mobile shell panel is the best. it's easy to use and has very good gui.
Media Panel : )

[Q] Barebone - but not completely naked ROM? HTC Apps - available anywhere?

I've been looking through the forums, searching my butt off, etc but I'm still unable to get where I want to go - so time to ask around. Hopefully it won't turn out I'm just a crappy searcher....
So! I really enjoy SPB Mobile Shell, especially after you slap a TouchFlo/Sense-like skin on it. It's faster and more customizable than Sense itself and looks great.
I'd also like to have a fresh WinMo 6.5 as a foundation for it.
Furthermore, I'd like for that WinMo to have the actual HTC controls - volume, dialer, preferrably even alarm settings and the proper Blackstone communications setup apps. I would not, however, want it to be polluted with lots of other crap like useless MS apps or PDF readers or whatever.
So, is there such a ROM? If there is not, but there is a super clean 6.5 ROM - has anyone extracted the HTC control apps (the actual ones for Blackstone, not some crappy HTC-like **** apps from 2008 which was all I could find) into cab form, and can they be found anywhere?
Thanks.
lorcro2000 said:
I've been looking through the forums, searching my butt off, etc but I'm still unable to get where I want to go - so time to ask around. Hopefully it won't turn out I'm just a crappy searcher....
So! I really enjoy SPB Mobile Shell, especially after you slap a TouchFlo/Sense-like skin on it. It's faster and more customizable than Sense itself and looks great.
I'd also like to have a fresh WinMo 6.5 as a foundation for it.
Furthermore, I'd like for that WinMo to have the actual HTC controls - volume, dialer, preferrably even alarm settings and the proper Blackstone communications setup apps. I would not, however, want it to be polluted with lots of other crap like useless MS apps or PDF readers or whatever.
So, is there such a ROM? If there is not, but there is a super clean 6.5 ROM - has anyone extracted the HTC control apps (the actual ones for Blackstone, not some crappy HTC-like **** apps from 2008 which was all I could find) into cab form, and can they be found anywhere?
Thanks.
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Blackstone Henge Hyper 2.5 version 7 i think it is...pretty basic, stripped down version of windows 6.5. (not sure what ur referring to with actual htc control apps?) But, I'm using this RoMU now..running CHT to skin it, looks great, runs smooth. Only one possible issue--battery life seems to be rather poor compared to others Ive used equipped w/ far more application that required more performance from the OS. I'm looking for the prob/ solution. Perhaps too many cabs, as opposed to running a RoM with several of them already built into it...Anyway, could be what ur looking for.
Well, I was referring to having a "HTC Sense" looking dialer and volume controls etc as opposed to the exceedingly ugly ones that come with stock Windows Mobile. If you get a full-featured ROM you get the HTC communication manager, HTC dialer etc that look really nice compared to the stock. Those bits are the only ones I'd personally like in addition to the stock stuff though (and not even all of the stock stuff).
In the end I went for a very light ROM that did have Manila as well, then turned Manila off in the Today settings. It's not ideal, but it works pretty well and I have a fair amount of memory to play with still to install the apps I really want and none of the dreck I don't need.
It's a shame there's no ROM that is both very light, has the HTC apps like the dialer and comms manager and volume control etc and is built on a really fresh WinMo release... but this works I guess.
lorcro2000 said:
Well, I was referring to having a "HTC Sense" looking dialer and volume controls etc as opposed to the exceedingly ugly ones that come with stock Windows Mobile. If you get a full-featured ROM you get the HTC communication manager, HTC dialer etc that look really nice compared to the stock. Those bits are the only ones I'd personally like in addition to the stock stuff though (and not even all of the stock stuff).
In the end I went for a very light ROM that did have Manila as well, then turned Manila off in the Today settings. It's not ideal, but it works pretty well and I have a fair amount of memory to play with still to install the apps I really want and none of the dreck I don't need.
It's a shame there's no ROM that is both very light, has the HTC apps like the dialer and comms manager and volume control etc and is built on a really fresh WinMo release... but this works I guess.
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-Hey mate, yea I see what ur saying. Still check out the Blackstone Henge RoM, it sounds like what ur looking for. Very stripped down, but still utilizing the finger friendly volume control, slider, dialer, and communication manager. But the RoM build has removed alot of useless, ram draining applications. Give it a go mate if ur up to it..may just suit ur needs. Good luck.

Fastest ROM

Hi can you tell me which is the fastest ROM for our HDs .Doesn't matter 6.1 or 6.5. I just want fast ROM with weather on the homescreen. Of course I prefer 6.5 with sense but I don't know does it fast as 6.1. If there is WinMo 6.1 with interface Sense 2.5 and it's fast like touch flo for example will be great.
Thank you!
this question has been asked and answered dozens of times.
the fastest rom is the stock rom wm6.1 with touchflo 3d 1.3
this touchflo version only has a weather tab, no weather on home screen. also not all sense 2.1 versions have home screen weather.
if there were such a thing as a perfect blackstone rom, no other chef could be bothered building own versions, the blackstone classically is a device on the line. it has a high display resolution, yet not the powerful processor, most new devices with that resolution have.
so, you have to pick, either speed OR a lot of features.
you can try cloudy 0.7 for instance. while on the one hand, it has not been updated in almost a year (also, as in most roms, the twitter tab does not work anymore). but it combines wm6.1 with sense 2.5 and it is relatively fast.
but if you are actually all about the speed of the rom, you might want to try a stock rom, and simply move the weather tab to the 2nd position, right next to the home screen. it isnt't too much work to swipe over the display once to check the weather. just think of iphone users, who with one swipe only just unlocked their phone and are hardly ready to access all kinds of information without launching 267 apps
Fast rom and ram
Chef_Tony,
First of all sorry for going off topic i just have a few questions
1. Does more free Ram makes a rom faster. i mean if a rom have 100 MB free ram on start is faster then a ROM having 60 mb free ram.
2. I dont use manila, sense, titanium or any today screen, just resco today items, i use to have xperia x1 b4 my hd n there was this rom by laurenti, which have 160mb free ram.( x1 have 32 less ram then HD) and on my hd its only 100 mb(blackstonehedge v6.5) with sense, manila turn off, only resco today items, is there any ultra light rom like laurentis for hd(6.5 or 6.5.x bottom start button, X button closes app.)
3. if is there isnt any rom( i have searched, but might have missed) , can you please cook such a rom.
PS.
was using - Build 23134 - Laurenti v2 (new AKU 5309). from this thread on my x1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676383
1. not necessarily. less ram usage extends your battery life and has more potential for running apps.
it does affect the speed, when the operating system, for the sake of the example, let's say wm6.5.5 with CHT 2.0, hogs all the ram and cpu power, trying to run a 3d game or watch hi-def video might get annoyingly slow.
but the general speed of the GUI cannot be read from ram or cpu usage alone. when picking a rom you should have a look, where certain packages come from. when a rom mostly consists of leo packages, you will see that it is quite slow, because the leo with 1ghz has much better resources. generally, packs from devices closer to the blackstone, like the rhodium, run slightly faster.
2. so much for the theory. if you don't use any of the built-in home screen extensions, you can pick practically any rom around here. either you go with wm6.1 for more speed, or you pick something newer for more finger-friendliness. in contrast to most other users, you don't need to choose your rom for the manila version. just have a look at the integrated apps, because that can really save you time, setting up the device.
3. there are several ultra-light roms:
- one would be a stock rom, it comes with almost no integrated apps and you'd only need to disable touchflo and you're good to go.
- there is also raving rom wm6.1, which comes without manila or sense, just a custom home screen and a very little ram footprint.
- in the energy roms thread, at the very bottom, you'll find a titanium rom, which is meant for users of own GUI solutions, like spb mobile shell or you resco home. but i wouldn't exactly call it ultra-light, because it comes with a lot of integrated apps.
p.s. despite my user name and avatar, i am not a rom chef, or any chef for that matter, it is just a parody of one of the most annoying persons in late night infomercials
so unfortunately i can't cook you a custom rom.
Thank you very much for a quick reply,
look like i black stonehendge is best option for me know, really appreciated your detailed answers.
thanks again
Nicely answered Chef_Tony
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