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Hi
I have an o2 xda mini s and i want to upgrade my rom to the latest one, however its not available on the xda site of o2. Can i install any rom or do i have to wait for them to brand it?
How do i upgrade and will it damage my device?
thanks

check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33796

mini s rom updating
don't do it!!!!
wait for them to 'brand it'
I have the same machine and tried using the new K-Jam ROM from I-Mate and I've gone through some horrifying moments to get it back to normal!!!

i am also waiting for the O2 update, i desperately need push email and was about to take the plunge with the i-mate rom. what sort of problems did you have and how is it working now?

when I tried loading the Imate ROM it all went file until I got an error related to my trying to use IMate software on an O2 machine
It remained in three color mode (as it is when upgrading the ROM) until I turned it off and then it was dead!!! It would not do anything! No lights, no activesync, leds, nothing!
Fortunately I took out the battery and put in back in and was back to normal working order. I'm assuming that I was fortunate and the changes didn't yet save. I really don't know, but it scared the crap out of me!
Still I came across someone in a forum that has done it. I've emailed him to ask how. Supposedly it works but you end up having to remap buttons and such.
Regardless I've decided to hold off for two reasons...
1. I've still got warranty that is void if you change the ROM
2. a tech from O2 emailed me to say they are coming out with an upgrade... while no details about when

02 xda mini rom? updates? keep origonal? change to...i-mate?

finding it hard to get good answers....so in anybodies opinion
the 02 xda mini s
is there any updates from the origonal 1.5.4.2 WWE? if so where can i get em from?
If no updates, maybe the 02 rom isnt the most up-to-date?? and it would be better to change to i-mate? or a q-tec?...if so...which would people recommend? and where could i find them? also...would they effect my being on 02 at all or would evrything stay the same and just the device will work better?!?
what do people think?
jamie

Hello jamie,
I would think that you should at least upgrade to the qtek9100 rom if u worry that u might not turn back to the O2 provided ROM. Or if you want even better performance, you can use the latest imate ROM. But i read in posts that you cannot downgrade as the loki wizard does not work in this rom.
Anyhow, i'm using an xda mini S and using the imate rom though.
Cheers

I was wondering about this as well. I've got an O2 XDA Mini S and it all seems to be working fine (so far). I don't use it for anything spectacular though phone, diary, notebook and I have a few other apps on it. I also run spb pocket plus and spb diary, again with no particular problems.
I know the old adage, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but are there any benefits from moving to the latest imate ROM, say?
tzehming,
You said you couldn't downgrade. Do you mean that once you put the latest imate ROM on, you can't ever go back to the original O2? Also, what's the deal with LokiWizard - is there something that needs to be done before the ROM can be upgraded?
(apologies for the dumb questions, I'm starting to get to know my way around the device)
Thanks,
John

jko said:
I was wondering about this as well. I've got an O2 XDA Mini S and it all seems to be working fine (so far). I don't use it for anything spectacular though phone, diary, notebook and I have a few other apps on it. I also run spb pocket plus and spb diary, again with no particular problems.
I know the old adage, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", but are there any benefits from moving to the latest imate ROM, say?
tzehming,
You said you couldn't downgrade. Do you mean that once you put the latest imate ROM on, you can't ever go back to the original O2? Also, what's the deal with LokiWizard - is there something that needs to be done before the ROM can be upgraded?
(apologies for the dumb questions, I'm starting to get to know my way around the device)
Thanks,
John
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Hello jko,
Yup u're right about having to use loki to unlock the rom. Search it in the forum and u'll find it. Just type loki.
After unlocking using the software, you can then install any rom for wizards, i.e. O2 mini xda s rom, imate rom or qtek 9100 rom. The one i'm using now is the latest one, which is the imate rom. I heard it cant be downgraded and we'll have to wait for an updated loki software to fix that. But the qtek 9100 rom can be downgraded again. I suggest u try the qtek rom as it makes the pda much faster. The O2 rom is really a turtle when opening the slider and closing it.
Hope this helps

Having read the advice above I'm going to unlock my device and flash it with the qtek 9100 ROM.
Once I've done that, what CAB files do I need to install in order to get O2 MMS and O2 GPRS working again?
Thanks,

Having read the advice above I'm going to unlock my device and flash it with the qtek 9100 ROM.
Once I've done that, what CAB files do I need to install in order to get O2 MMS and O2 GPRS working again?
Thanks,

Can't answer your question, but just a request to post back your experience once you're done. It would be appreciated.
John

well, you could again search the forum for gprs settings. u may not get the automatic setup anymore, thereby may have to do it manually. search for O2 gprs in the forum. as for mms settings, someone made a cab file, I can't remember which forum , but again, it can be searched. Try O2 mms.
hope this helps

I've got the mini S too...
First thing I did when I got it was to get rid of all the o2 crap on it... couldn't believe how slow it was even in basic mode!
I did the whole hard reset then soft reset when it says "customizing..."
This basically leaves you with a bare o2 wm5 rom without any of the customiztion installed. MMS won't work and either will GPRS.
To get these working you need to install Total Commander on your mini S and browse to the /extended_rom/ directory.
The cab files in this directory are the files installed when it says "customizing..." on a hard reset.
You can then selectively install which ones you would like to install.
There is a brief outline of what each one is on the htc wizard page on the wiki but I've made a better one I'm gonna stick on there.
You also need to input the GPRS settings and MMS settings manually and install a cab from the extended rom that creates the MMS folder in the messaging application.
After you've done all this you'll notice a considerable improvement over the o2 rom with all the crapola installed.
I've also used lokiwizard to unlock it all.
Not tried the qtek rom or the new i-mate one... as I don't use push-email or the like and haven't found any considerable bugs yet I don't need to.
I have found naggaly features which after installing the RegistryWizard, NullKbd and a few others... they seemed to be solved!

I recently updated my O2 mini S 1.5.4.... rom to the new imate one and i must give my approval for upgrading to this rom. Its faster, more stable, is much better on battery life for some reason.

I recently updated my O2 mini S 1.5.4.... rom to the new iMate one
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Where can I get this. It does not appear to be in the Rom download area (or is it under a different name?)

its in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42638&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Well I successfully upgraded to the new i-mate ROM and it's MUCH faster. There's a lot less lag when sliding the keyboard in & out, and the general responsiveness of the device is considerably better.
I've managed to get GPRS working, and I've installed the MMS cab but I can't send or receive MMS's at the moment - it keeps telling me that it couldn't send the message. So I'm going to post elsewhere in this forum and check that I've got the correct MMS settings.
Overall though, I'd definately recommend upgrading to this ROM. Just remember to use Total Commander to take a backup of the O2 Extended ROM beforehand so that you've got the MMS cab-file available to install at a later date.

Excellent. Thanks for the feedback. I may well give it a go later today.
John

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Just remember to use Total Commander to take a backup
Is this the one from Ghisler.com?
I downloaded this but cannot find any instructions or reference to backing up the Rom. Any idea where I can get the instructions (if there are any).
Code:
browse to the /extended_rom/ directory
I cannot see this in the Total Commander Directory list.
Any suggestions appreciated.

Just got my o2 mini s a couple of days ago and I am loving it soo far!!
However, I already encountered a couple of bugs - the system laggss REALLLI bad, like when the slider is pushed out, even when closing/running certain programs the device hangs. Also, I have seen a couple of times where the "phone" application will not load up. In all these cases I have had to do a soft reset on the device.
I am thinking of upgrading the rom - but this is my first pda, and i know nothing at all about fidgeting with the software. I don't want to mess up such an expensive phone so is it pretty easy to do?

w_2k20a:
I too want to be careful.
I have 2 phones, and my O2 Mini S is slow compared to my MDA Vario.
So I am going to try and run an update to replace the ROM on the O2 with the newer one on the Vario, and also get rid of the O2 add-ins which are what slow it down apparently.
I will try this first because I have read about so many problems with the latest I-mate one, and it is not easy to return to the original ROM if it does give problems (although it is possible it seems tricky) - I may the Imate one later if I need to.
The ROM for the Vario (along with others) is here:
ftp://[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Tmobile/ - use password xda
Its the UK one.
But first I backed up my Mini ROM. I used awizard to do this. Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43399
I think that you will find that using the awizard (get it from this link)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37386&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
the backup part is easy. I have done that quite successfully.
Good Luck.

Help Needed....Incorrect Vendor ID

Hi guys...I know there have been numerous reports of this kind, but I can't seem to find the answer.
I don't have this problem myself, but another person does and I thought I'd ask Olipro and the rest of the community for some help and clarification. Also hoping this answer can help anyone else who has this issue.
OK, Someone tried to flash WM6 before using the Unlocker. I know...don't say it. Anyway they now have the black screen of death and the tri-coloured bootloader screen, but are still unable to flash WM6 and obviously cannot use the unlocker until they have an O/S to sync with.
Has anybody encountered this and received incorrect vendor ID and found a way out of this scenario? They have an Austrian T-Mobile Ameo UK, so they can't even use the T-Mob 005 ROM for the UK Ameo (which doesn't require the unlocking of ones device).
Any clues peeps? It would really help a fellow owner out. Cheers for any input. Remember even if you said it before and don't want to repeat yourself again, please just cpoy & paste the answer here so it can act as part of the wiki for future incidents of this nature.
Thanks friends.

I got part of the experience. So I will tell what happen to mine AMEO.
due to some software conflict, my WM6 OS got kill. I was stuck in the tri-colour screen as well.
Since my unit was unlocked before, so refreshing (any) ROM solved my problem. (refreshing the ROM doesn't required activesyn running on yr PPC.)
If can't reflash yr ROM due to vendor_id error, I think the best way is to get the origin WM5 ROM (read it out from another same model) and flash it back.
after getting yr origin OS, then u can proceed unlocker and WM6 upgrade.
Hope this can help.

royalmail said:
I got part of the experience. So I will tell what happen to mine AMEO.
due to some software conflict, my WM6 OS got kill. I was stuck in the tri-colour screen as well.
Since my unit was unlocked before, so refreshing (any) ROM solved my problem. (refreshing the ROM doesn't required activesyn running on yr PPC.)
If can't reflash yr ROM due to vendor_id error, I think the best way is to get the origin WM5 ROM (read it out from another same model) and flash it back.
after getting yr origin OS, then u can proceed unlocker and WM6 upgrade.
Hope this can help.
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Thanks Royalmail. I'll pass it on.

Freezing problem

hi there, i was wondering if you can help me solve my problem. im new to the o2 xda mini s phone. i just got this phone and its been flashed to wm 6. it keeps on freezing when i try to log onto msn or move items frmo my pc to the wizard.
is there anyway to fix it or better of to downgrade to its proper version. please reply promptly. thanks TIA

do you need any info on the phone? ill be happy to provide you if u can help me out !

jst a thought
one reason that you phone is freezing basically is that the wizards motherboard is not made to handle the wm6. its just like installing windows xp into a very old computer, the whole system lags down.
there is a way to downgrade it if you are interest. jst let me know.

I and a couple hundred or more people on here would probably beg to differ you on that opinion. I've been using windows mobile 6 on mine since just after it came out and I can't say as I've ever had a hardware related issue because of it. There have been a few software issues here and there, but they've always been fixed by someone on here.
I would guess that you may have an issue with an older version of WM6 and would probably be easily fixed with a newer version that you can find in the WM6 area of the wizard section. Before you go flashing anything though, do some reading in the stickies in the WM6 section to make sure you're flashing a new ROM correctly. There are 2 different versions of a wizard, a G3 and a G4 and each has it's own way of flashing. If you flash it incorrectly you could end up ruining your phone.

need help htc 8125

hi i was trying to flash my friends htc 8125 with the tutorial on this web and now i just have 3 color display or boot mode i think. im new this was my first time i flashet first with buton ... flash but not work error 302 but after i flash with alternative flash was in the tutorial and i get an error to so i dont know what to do how to repair
HTC CINGULAR 8125
IPL 1.05
SPL 1.05

I'm kinda of new too, but I believe you just have to pick the rom u want to flash up to. U r at the ideal ipl & spl. I just did that to mine about a week ago and then flashed it EXACTLY like forum said and then just update to 3.XXIPL & 3.XXSPl. After which I picked 1 of the TNT rOMs and wella! try to flash it up now

i dont know wheres to find the roms do you have a link or something

Have you CID unlocked yet?

Obviously not unlocked yet!
Cause he stucks on step 1 !
hahahaha upgrade an original rom... try the 2.26 tmobile not 3.08 please...

Hey Que
I will be getting T-Mobile any hour today...
I will be following all the instructions and try to use a Cingular card on it.

I'm trying to decide what to use for updating the rom on this 8125 the ipl reads 2.25 the spl reads 2.25. in the tutorial there isnt any mention of these that I can ascertain. the other numbers are os 2.25.11.1 gsm 02.25.11
Is this even a necessity. The unit shuts down and is very difficult to get restarted, seems to be a good unit, just looking to make it more reliable. Thanks in advance for the help.

hydafl said:
I'm trying to decide what to use for updating the rom on this 8125 the ipl reads 2.25 the spl reads 2.25. in the tutorial there isnt any mention of these that I can ascertain. the other numbers are os 2.25.11.1 gsm 02.25.11
Is this even a necessity. The unit shuts down and is very difficult to get restarted, seems to be a good unit, just looking to make it more reliable. Thanks in advance for the help.
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Your phone is running the official cingular stock rom and has official IPL/SPL 2.25 (Bootloaders),its nothing to be worried about,now it depends if you prefer to reflash the official wm5 rom or wud like to upgrade to latest wm6.1 custom build roms.
If you want to keep official then download the official wm5 stock rom and simply flash it,but if you desire to upgrade to latest wm6.1 rom,as no official wm6 roms are provided,therefore,you'll have to flash a custom build wm6.1 rom,and for that you'll have to get your phone CID unlocked.

my phone is in boot mode i dont have the roms im new wheres can i find the rom that you say the tmobile my phone was with the original cingular rom or where can i find the original one

mmmmm ok!
I dont have the link but you an enter in wiki section for wizard... is a thread that said wizard goes wiki click there and then it tooks you to the wiki pages! there... you can found a link that takes you to the original roms... choose the one you see for cingular..... some links are broken so dont desperate maybe we can found other one... if you dont get it there you can choose the search tool just follow my steps on my signature says The XDA search culture...
Dont be afraid men you only need to use some more things to start unbricking your phone... (I hope so) many things tooks time cause we dont read enough now lets work men!!!
Well avoiding duplicatted posts this is gonna change many times
Here is my RUU without ID http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429327&page=9
I didnt found the cingular but try to unzip the exe file with winrar... the nk.nbf can be cutted and pasted in the RUU folder to upgrade it without ID vendor permissions... we will on touch men!

Xplain more
Xplain more of your problem remember that unlock upgrade flashing dids most be done on XP and without SIM and MiniSD pluged... be sure your batt is full charged and your USB cable dont have troubles.
Can you privide more info abour exactly what you have done... please men we need all you got
OH remember not to use so much your phone on Bootloader screen cause we need the batt almost 70% to downgrade unlock and upgrade again it dont charge in RGB screen.

About getting official Wizard Cingular ROMs.
I called HTC and Cingular they say that HTC is not licensing the Wizard WM6 from Microsoft anymore, so they are not supplying the ROMs for the public.
No official support from Cingular/HTC on Wizard for WM6 or 5 for that matter.

I'm new to pdas I've only ever had cell phones so with that in mind its confusing as to where to start. I'm electronic savvy when it comes to car repair, however some of this is daunting at best. I'd like to take this semi-bricked wizard to the next level.
Everytime I find what I'm looking for the webpage is obsolete, what to do?

hydafl said:
I'm new to pdas I've only ever had cell phones so with that in mind its confusing as to where to start. I'm electronic savvy when it comes to car repair, however some of this is daunting at best. I'd like to take this semi-bricked wizard to the next level.
Everytime I find what I'm looking for the webpage is obsolete, what to do?
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First,always post the DOC Chip version of the phone,what is the IPL/SPL of the phone.
Secondly,what exactly is the problem and what you want to do ?

the ipl/spl are at 2.25 and the specific problem is that wen in hibernate mode the only way to work with it is to remove the battery to restore functionality, then that resets the factory settings of time and date and also drops calls etc.

hydafl said:
the ipl/spl are at 2.25 and the specific problem is that wen in hibernate mode the only way to work with it is to remove the battery to restore functionality, then that resets the factory settings of time and date and also drops calls etc.
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Its a G3 version,download the official stock wm5 rom from here and flash it:-
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
But,if you want to upgrade to latest wm6 then follow this link and do it correctly as the guide reads :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
Good luck

Well I think its bricked no screen and no charge light, should I buy a new battery or just sell it for parts? I really tried to find the correct place to update and I goofed what can I say its my responsibility, is thereanymore I can do from this point?

hydafl said:
Well I think its bricked no screen and no charge light, should I buy a new battery or just sell it for parts? I really tried to find the correct place to update and I goofed what can I say its my responsibility, is thereanymore I can do from this point?
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G3 devices don't get Bricked like this,by just flashing a rom,untill and unless you have flashed any G4 IPL/SPL on it,otherwise,G3 phones never get Bricked.So most probably its the battery,try to get the battery charged or get another battery from a friend and confirm it.

As an update and thank you very much. I purchased a new battery and the the store was good enough to pre charge it. We installed the above official wm5 file and its currently going throuh re updating itself. I did happen to notice that it now has an AKU2 file. Is this an update over and above what I had originally?
Once again thanks....
Are there any problems with 3G sim cards because when I installed the card the phone reacts as if there is no battery. No charge indicator or any activity.
Problem solved, it helps to have the sim card properly seated.......

Thanz!
You are most welcome,glade its working.
Yes,the above rom is AKU 2,its an upgrade to your previous official Rom,always try to keep the battery fully charged,as it creates many problems if it gets below the required retention charge of 30%.
Try out the Guide I posted above and see if you can get it CID unlocked and upgraded to latest wm6.1 rom,thats where the fun begins....!