New version 0.8.5 of skyfire is released now.. you don't need any registration to download this.. Just go to get.skyfire.com from your PC or from your device. It's very cool browser with support to youtube and other flash objects.. I am attaching a downloaded copy here for quick download.. Enjoy
Someone has already posted it on this forum......
Sorry! tried searching but couldn't locate initially, now got it.. How can I get this post deleted..
Thx... It is better then Opera Mobile?
McLin said:
Thx... It is better then Opera Mobile?
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tons better i must say! Watch youtube or any flash content...or anything at all right off the website!
McLin said:
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It doesn't seem to wrap text correctly for me, so it's harder to read things. But if you need quick, desktop-quality browsing, it is better than Opera Mobile.
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It doesn't seem to wrap text correctly for me, so it's harder to read things. But if you need quick, desktop-quality browsing, it is better than Opera Mobile.
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by the full desktop quality browsing you are correct, but i disagree with the quick browsing. Sure it displays the page faster than opera but the navigation is terrible. Just like using a gps application (googlemaps for example) you dont really have entire the page loaded, just the part you are seeing on your screen, it constantly renders as you scroll and pan making it terrible to quickly pan and scroll through websites expecially forums where you read, pan, read, pan and so on. the constant rendering and reloading makes the page blurry and displays those god awful checkers by not being able to keep up thust slowing you down way more than the slightly slower page loading of opera. At least when opera is done with the page you can read everything in it quickly and easily
Im not bashing skyfire cuz i love it also but that is the main gripe i have with it, that and the unreliable downloads that fail on me 99% of the time
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Just like using a gps application (googlemaps for example) you dont really have entire the page loaded, just the part you are seeing on your screen, it constantly renders as you scroll and pan making it terrible to quickly pan and scroll through websites expecially forums where you read, pan, read, pan and so on. the constant rendering and reloading makes the page blurry and displays those god awful checkers by not being able to keep up thust slowing you down way more than the slightly slower page loading of opera.
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You are true.. It won't load the full webpage and it's realy slow when you scroll and pan.. But only advantage we have is it plays youtube videos and flash. Which is lacking in opera mobile.. But in this version there is no audio.. Some problem.. Looking for a solution..
Downloaded. Will find install it in a little bit.
Does it work Wvga?
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by the full desktop quality browsing you are correct, but i disagree with the quick browsing. Sure it displays the page faster than opera but the navigation is terrible. Just like using a gps application (googlemaps for example) you dont really have entire the page loaded, just the part you are seeing on your screen, it constantly renders as you scroll and pan making it terrible to quickly pan and scroll through websites expecially forums where you read, pan, read, pan and so on. the constant rendering and reloading makes the page blurry and displays those god awful checkers by not being able to keep up thust slowing you down way more than the slightly slower page loading of opera. At least when opera is done with the page you can read everything in it quickly and easily
Im not bashing skyfire cuz i love it also but that is the main gripe i have with it, that and the unreliable downloads that fail on me 99% of the time
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this is the main problem I have with it and netfront also. the truth is when it comes to browsing even IE mobile 6 has the upper hand, it might be slower at rendering the page but trust me I have found it's CSS engine better than even opera. I can give the links if anyone wants to check. however, opera has the upper hand when it comes to browsing the page. and opera does support flash videos on certain builds.
this is how I break it down in no order:
aesthetics: opera9
page load speed: skyfire
scroll/pan: opera9
rendering engine quality: IE mobile 6
rendering engine speed: opera9/skyfire
download file reliability: IE mobile 6
flash: skyfire
ease of use: opera9
javascript: IE mobile 6/opera9
therefore opera is the best pick for default browser and everyday use. IE mobile 6 comes in second for quality and reliability. skyfire only has flash and page load speed going for it (1st of which isn't a need, thus they only have speed), netfront couldn't even make it on there.
Ya skyfires really nice for streaming videos but thats about it.
My favorite day to day browser is hands down Opera Mini 4.2. For just basic browsing and skimming forums,etc,etc... its just plain awesome and by far the fastest one iv used
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This question always crossed my mind, how come nobody has emulated the iPhone web browser? I've tried IE, Opera, and the mobile Firefox but they're all junk compared to the mobile Safari - mainly because of the finger movements that make it super easy to navigate. This is really the only advantage other than GUI "swiftness" the iPhone has.
Please discuss, and if your response is "why dunt u buy an itele lolz", you totally missed the point.
you have to try picsel browser, some ppl say its better than safari,
and about opera, if you tried opera mobile you have the wrong version because opera mini is the one you want to have. It is not very finger friendly but it is very fast and also very good to use with d-pad
cheers
well i only use opera mobile mini is not really my cop of tea
Look at skyfire.com. It's not out yet, but seems promising!
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Anyone know if skyfire is a proxy? or is it just a different engine? WebDAV?
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Look at skyfire.com. It's not out yet, but seems promising!
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Yes it does, nice demo.
Thanks, SkyFire looks very nice! I'm using Opera atm because it's the only half-decent browser I've found - however the zoom features suck because it can't render text correctly and you can't browse as swiftly compared to Safari. However SkyFire is very interesting, I'll be looking into this further.
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Saw in the Hermes thread that the WM6.1 PIE has an option that allows you to view the entire webpage then tap to zoom in on a certain portion of it. Sound familiar?
Wonder whatever happened to M$ deepfish browser? I wasn't one of the lucky ones who got on the beta test list. And I don't see anything new posted on the project website.
Is there any way to fool PIE into telling a site that it is an iPhone??
I know it's possible to get PIE to broadcast that it is a desktop, so why not an iPhone??
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Anyone know if skyfire is a proxy? or is it just a different engine? WebDAV?
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Yes, it is proxy-based . However, it is the best browser Ive seen for a mobile device to-date. They have a video on YouTube & it looks very promising. Definitely better than Safari because it not only supports AJAX, but full FLASH 8 & 9 as well. If you access ESPN.com, you can actually see the video's of the highlights to the right of the page just like you would on a regular desktop.
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Yes, it is proxy-based . However, it is the best browser Ive seen for a mobile device to-date. They have a video on YouTube & it looks very promising. Definitely better than Safari because it not only supports AJAX, but full FLASH 8 & 9 as well. If you access ESPN.com, you can actually see the video's of the highlights to the right of the page just like you would on a regular desktop. Full sound & everything! Ive just been waiting for them to send my invitation since I signed up 2wks ago.
Well... Opera Mobile 9.5 will be released in a week or so. It's much better than Safari
Pisel would be just as good as safari - correction, better - if it supported flash. My only two gripes with picsel is the inability to view flash, and not being able to set it as my default browser. Its fast, the nearly-limitless zooming beats the pants off of anything available now or in near future. If I'm not planning to edit them, i open my text files with it too. :thumbsup:
Before we get Opera 9.5, the top two browsers in terms of speed are Netfront 3.5 followed by Opera Mini 4.
Netfront is way better than Picsel browser. Picsel is slooooww. It also have memory full problem, on top of other bugs.
I hve done some bencemark between all these browser in the Athena forum, if you're interested.
i been playing around with netfront... and im very impressed... its prob the fastest browser per load time... and its browsing is very nice allowing finger movements... also double tap on screen to zoom out of the page
which in turn opens up a window and allows u to use a nav box to scroll along the bigger portions of the page... i highly recommend for people to try it out ....
Edit: Netfront also has full ajax2.0 support
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/05/video-opera-mobile-9-5-redesign-is-lickity-quick-slick/
Think it looks pretty nice.
http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2008/02/05/
Supports Flash Lite 3.
Mobile surfing (suffering) on Web
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/05/video-opera-mobile-9-5-redesign-is-lickity-quick-slick/
Think it looks pretty nice.
http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2008/02/05/
Supports Flash Lite 3.
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Nice if it's that fast! Because the Mobile Opera Browser v.8.65 is very slow... even on my X51v...
Then I made a simple test, as they did, to load The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk) using Opera 8.65 took exactly 55 seconds, and it was useless, because all the page was truncated, pictures at low res and very expanded, breaking news doesn´t work...
After I used Pocket Internet Explorer from WM6 (Football A03RTM+SP1), Options: High resolution, Show Images, Desktop. Had the same time 55 seconds, but it was readable (a little messed, but fine), pictures clear and beautiful, size ok. Breaking News at the corner of page, not usable really.
Finally, Picsel Browser took 32 sec to load, the page looks almost exactly that on desktop computer, but no video or "breaking news", the end of the page was single column, plus there is a nice "smart scrolling" feature and a fast and reliable zoom.
Opera Mini 12 seconds!
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Opera Mini 12 seconds!
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Opera mini is until now the best browser for mobile phones, wether with or without touchscreen, it is fast and reliable. Best.
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yes opera mini is the best . Altough typing text sucks ..
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yes opera mini is the best . Altough typing text sucks ..
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yeah, thats something me too dont like
Seems like we've been waiting forever for 9.5
I hope it's as good as it seems in the video!!!
The one to watch
http://www.skyfire.com/
not much to go by but at least opera will be out monday of next week...at least testing for opera will be sooner I suspect than skyfire...
skyfire..is bullsh**..i was hoping to test something new..but now..im thinking bout Opera 9.5 btw..Flash 3 but is it the same as FLash 9?? please explain..some1..if possible
this looks great, i cant wait for it. i like what theyve done with the zooming, but i would prefer there was more than 2 zooming options. i would prefer what htc album does, for example if you double tap faster it zooms in more and if you double tap slower it zooms in not as much.
Very intresting, it looks to address all the things that were missing from the last verison that i hoped they would fix like free scrolling and zoom which is awsome, cant wait!
Adobe has no plan to make FL3 availabel for window mobile although it was once touted as a multiplatform thing. See here:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforu...readid=1320006
Unfortunately the TCPMP + FlashBundle solution only works in IE and not Opera.
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Unfortunately the link has been removed from the Adobe website.
Anyway, even without FL3, the much improved rendering speed, widget, and user interface are already serious improvements for me to look forward to.
Check out skyfires flash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mWUoxiLZFc
its easily faster than opera... runs pretty smooth and i actually enjoy the small scrolling screen they got from the netfront browser as well.
http://torchmobile.com/
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its easily faster than opera... runs pretty smooth and i actually enjoy the small scrolling screen they got from the netfront browser as well.
http://torchmobile.com/
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its faster over wifi but I don't think it's as quick over gprs.
Its definitely getting better each release though.
I still use netfronts' simple browsing for things like forums, nothing is a quick as that one..
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its faster over wifi but I don't think it's as quick over gprs.
Its definitely getting better each release though.
I still use netfronts' simple browsing for things like forums, nothing is a quick as that one..
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UCWEB6 flies! It's basic html only though. I use it for very basic functions like really quick google searches, spelling corrections, eBay etc.
Tried it a long time ago and didn't like it...
Its page displaying seems to be slower than opera
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UCWEB6 flies! It's basic html only though. I use it for very basic functions like really quick google searches, spelling corrections, eBay etc.
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its a java proxybrowser though isn't it? I'm not very keen on those..
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Tried it a long time ago and didn't like it...
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Try again, they update quite often. I use it sometimes since it can display anything. It has perfect javascript functionality.
I use Opera Mini for common browsing, but when I find a page it has troubles with, Opera Mobile usually has problems too.
Still Opera Mobile is best adapted to screen size and touch controls. Give me Opera Mobile with compatibility of Iris and I will be happy.
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Just did. I still don't like it . It feels uncomfortable to work with, and has much less options than the Opera. I keep it installed though, along with other browsers, in case my Opera brakes down hehe.
right now, Iris is only great for Iphone optimized sites... for everything else, Opera is the way to go.
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its a java proxybrowser though isn't it? I'm not very keen on those..
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i think you should give ucweb a try. its tiny and it does not require JAVA and its much more funtional than opera mini
its a really good secondary (when on EDGE or 3G) efficient browser.
good 4-min video review http://pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=7232
It is a very good browser, and a fast one. It definitely renders HTML better than Opera Mobile 9.5. It works very good with X1.
My only concern is that when I double tap a page, the zoom is not to 100%, but less. I mean the image I see after a double tap is smaller than if I choose zoom to 100%. Anyone having the same issue?
I use Iris for few months and must say - it's getting better and better. Still it's not a perfect browser - but show me one that is. I'm waiting for update which can allow to watch youtube movies directly from pages like www.pocketnow.com etc. Now for those pages I use Skyfire.
Does it have embedded Flash support, like on desktop browser? Any news on such upcoming feature?
http://www.torchmobile.com/products/faq/
How do I make YouTube work?
YouTube's standard desktop version requires Flash 9 or above. This is not available for Windows Mobile. If you leave the browser in Mobile Mode (Page->View->Mobile Mode in the menu), you can visit YouTube and will be redirected to the mobile edition. If you happen to have the FlashLite 3 ActiveX control installed, Iris Browser will automatically use it and videos should work.
For youtube.com I use Zenyee application. More usefull would be possibility of playing implanted movies on sites. This is possible for now with Skyfire and Mach5 I suppose.
Two weeks ago I was using the Nokia N900 for at least a month and was able to test browser over my GPRS connection by rigorously testing it on heavy flash sites
Being a GPRS connection, I expected a slow loading of the pages but the content was displayed perfectly well after a few minutes. Last week I bought myself the HD2 and since then been testing IE6 and Opera over the same GPRS connection, but sadly most of the sites complain of upgrading to the newer Flash plug-in, which is not possible at the moment.
Today I decided to install Skyfire 1.5 and to my shocking surprise every page that I had visited on the N900 loaded 4x faster and even the heavy flash sites loaded on the fly.
The core site that I concentrated was 2advanced.com
Load this on SkyFire and see at what blazing speeds the Flash loader gets filled and the beautiful flash UI is displayed.
Await to hear your comments and views.
I love it too. Very quick and I can access mesh.com which is programmed in silverlight. I just wish it had autorotate and pinch2zoom.
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I love it too. Very quick and I can access mesh.com which is programmed in silverlight. I just wish it had autorotate and pinch2zoom.
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It does have autorotate, and pinch2zoom you can enable it by running BsB Tweaks 1.5 and adding the app into the Pinch to Zoom tweak section.
Skyfire is good but it eats your battery when viewing media content!
Is it a matter of licensing or technology that Opera has problem running flash sites?
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Skyfire is good but it eats your battery when viewing media content!
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I faced a similar problem with Fennec on the N900. I guess its a general issue of draining battery while viewing Flash/Media content via a Web Browser
i dont like it..i tried for half hour a couple of weeks ago...its strange i dont remember what i didnt like but i remember that i thought "take too many initiatives"
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I know! I just meant that it wasn't standard to the software. You have to take additional steps to activate those features.
Skyfire is my browser for flash content. That's all. For casual browsing, Opera is faster, and a lot more comfortable.
Skyfire may be the best mobile browser when it comes to flash, but, for everything else, Opera/Safari/Chrome are far ahead. You should include "Flash" somewhere in the title of this topic.
loving the new skyfire update, a huge leap from what it was..
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Skyfire is my browser for flash content. That's all. For casual browsing, Opera is faster, and a lot more comfortable.
Skyfire may be the best mobile browser when it comes to flash, but, for everything else, Opera/Safari/Chrome are far ahead. You should include "Flash" somewhere in the title of this topic.
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Completely agree, Opera fulfills nearly all my needs, and I occasionally use Skyfire for flash stuff (other than youTube, which I prefer the dedicated app for).
Anybody have any experience with latest ver of Skyfire browser in HD2 yet?
How does it compare to Opera?
1.5? used it for a bit.
its generally good.
lags a bit when trying to navigate though.
I use it for Flash only, like for watching Freeview on TVCatchup or, everynow and then, YouTube.
I think the quality of the webpages produced is poor, it's like they are hazey, not clear and crisp like Opera is, however I like the main page which has a Skyfire home page and a bookmark and history page.
I have 4 browers installed on my HD2, two versions of Opera, 9.7 and the new Opera 10 beta, Skyfire and Internet Explorer, and I use them in that order. 99% of my web browsing is done on Opera 9.7, you can't beat it.
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Anybody have any experience with latest ver of Skyfire browser in HD2 yet?
How does it compare to Opera?
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For general browsing it's rather sluggish. In particular, every time to cklick a checkbox or radio-button it has to do a round-trip to the server, so filling in a survey is a nightmare. But it scores highly for compatibility - just about any page is rendered correctly, much more often than is the case for Opera. It also handles Flash and Silverlight very nicely.
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I use it for Flash only, like for watching Freeview on TVCatchup or, everynow and then, YouTube.
I think the quality of the webpages produced is poor, it's like they are hazey, not clear and crisp like Opera is, however I like the main page which has a Skyfire home page and a bookmark and history page.
I have 4 browers installed on my HD2, two versions of Opera, 9.7 and the new Opera 10 beta, Skyfire and Internet Explorer, and I use them in that order. 99% of my web browsing is done on Opera 9.7, you can't beat it.
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How can you watch Freeview on the HD2?
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How can you watch Freeview on the HD2?
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www.tvcatchup.com
pretty good quality too!
Thanks for your responses guys. I read about it on another site where people were raving about how much faster the latest version made their internet experience and how the user interface had been improved, so i figured maybe it's a good alternative to Opera, but judging from the general consensus here I think I'll just give it pass. Especially since I don't really have a problem with the pre-installed ver of Opera.
you could always try it out yourself...
would be good to get a HD2 specific version, i think the bad text/page rendering has something to do with the massive resolution of the HD2. Some pages I have problems getting the keyboard out, any tips?
Sucks that Adobe said they were going to support flash for 6.5x then changed their mind for WM7
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I took your advice and did just that. It sucks! Poor resolution and very slow, no match for Opera.
BTW How do I check what version of Opera I have?
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www.tvcatchup.com
pretty good quality too!
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Yep, that's the one.
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I took your advice and did just that. It sucks! Poor resolution and very slow, no match for Opera.
BTW How do I check what version of Opera I have?
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open opera >menu>help>about>version on the top
SkyFire is no doubt a good browser. It has full flash support, and is meant to be the fastest web browser for WinMo! However, it is laggy when it comes to navigation ie scrolling up and down the website, and once certain Opera tweaks are applied (and Wifi N enabled) NOTHING beats it! Especially Opera 9.7. The downside of Opera is that it has lack of Flash support
But it's 100% smooth, and in my opinion a much more User-friendly and a lot more suitable for casual, usual day-to-day web browsing
skyfire is my default browser on my HD2, thoroughly recommend it.
it doesn't have and pinch to zoom function but the double tap works perfectly also it is the only browser with FULL flash 10 desktop support, pages look amazing.
only other nag is that there is no multiply tab support.
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I already tried that, but help brings up a page with 2 icons to choose from either desktop or mobile. Selecting mobile takes me to a page to select my phone and language, but HTC is not even listed ???
I'm using OS ver 5.2.21869, Official Rom 1.66.707.1 (76641) WWE 01/12/2010.
Thanks,
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skyfire is my default browser on my HD2, thoroughly recommend it.
it doesn't have and pinch to zoom function but the double tap works perfectly also it is the only browser with FULL flash 10 desktop support, pages look amazing.
only other nag is that there is no multiply tab support.
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Si it lacks gestures & no multiple tabs. ....but, how do you get the pages to look good? I Agree Opera beats it in every respect including the failings already mentioned.
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Yep, that's the one.
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I can't sign up to it because it seems to be for the UK only, does anyone know such a site for the rest of the world (or the Netherlands)?