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Can you make the XDA II talk to other devices via USB?

I've got a fuel map device on my motorbike, that via a pc allows you to change all the mapping.
Thats great if you've got a laptop, as you can just plug that into the bike and away you go.
I have no laptop, but do have the XDA II, so was wondering if i could connect this to the unit? The unit runs straight off a USB and requires no power.
Only other thing is would i be able to get the program to work on the pocket pc OS? It runs fine on windows. Is there any form of soft windows on the XDA II that would emulate the full windows os to allow me to run this prog.
Cheers

If you could get a serial version of the cable to plug into the motorcycle then it would be quite easy to make a serial adaptor for the pocket pc, does the motorcycle use a similar systen to OBD2 diagnostics.

yeah the place well one of the places where firewire is better then usb is that usb needs 1 master and X devices
and the xda1 and 2 are devices only
firewire all can be masters

The bike has a dynojet powercommander USB, so only USB. Sounds like the XDA II won't link up, damn. That would have been great being able to change the maps with the XDA II as its very portable and you could change whilst out on a run very easily.

well maybe if you get the backpack and then get the CF card usb card
maybe it will work as master welll i would asume it would or there would be little cause for the product to exist

Yes, this is right. The XDA2 won't function as a USB host. You do need that backpack and a www.ratocsystems.com host card. Then it will work.
I know this becuase I'm trying to link mine up to a HDD to store loads of music in my car and use the PPC as a controller but I don't want the confounded backpack - for you though on the motorbike, only using it when you need it it sounds perfect.

Connecting my Wizard to a mobile HDD - Urgent!

Hi there,
I have taken lots of useful information from this forum and I must say it is definitely the best forum for wizards in the net!
Now my question:
I am going on vacation on Saturday I have a mobile 250 GB HDD which stores all my music collection. I do not want to take my laptop with me. Is there a way to transfer my music from the mobile HDD to the miniSD card in my Wizard without using the laptop? Can the Resco Explorer and a USB hub help me with that? ANY useful suggestion welcome.
Thanks in advance!
Rgds
Lars

nope...
Sorry, it's not gonna happen. USB works on a client - master relationship and the HD and Wizard are both clients. Without a device to work as a master (eg a computer, some PMPs) between them, no communication can take place.
Servus

what is a PMP?

what is a PMP?
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PMP stands for Portable Media Player. It would be cool though if there would be software available to give the wizard USB Host controller support. Don't know if that is difficult to do.
Cheers,
Shah

Yeah, to be honest I'm pretty surprised that this can't be done; is there some fundamental reason why its not been done?
Also, can I print stuff off my device yet? I know I can't plug a printer in, but can i print to a bluetooth printer?

you can print via IR to HP printers, that I know.
Is there no workaround to connect to a mobile HDD? I can control my PC with my Wizard but I can not access a mobile HDD???
How about emulating a USB Host controller? Any ideas?

I believe you actually need a piece of hardware for a device to act as a USB controller, not just software.

What peice of hardware would that be?

enlite_de said:
What peice of hardware would that be?
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I knew that question was going to come up with my phrasing.
"Piece of hardware" here refers to an actual chip, like those found on your PC motherboards to act as a USB controller. In short, there is absolutely nothing that you can buy and plug into a Wizard to have it act as a controller. There is a CompactFlash USB controller somewhere, but I heard it's rather unreliable and slow. Plus, it's CF only, and we don't have a CF slot

We do have a CF slot but we just don't show it anybody

I'm sure if you took a mini SD to micro SD conerter, a soldering iron and some pieces of wire you could wire up a compact flash jobby. You could probably take the compact flash plug thing to bits and re-weire it to a mini SD one.

I rather carry my laptop LOL.
Thanks anyway.

Has anyone tried plugging in a USB HDD?

i was wondering, what if i got a USB harddrive, and plugged it into my hermes?
would WM6 even notice its there?
this is assuming i've got a externally powered HDD that uses the normal USBHOST.
i searched "usb harddrive" in the hermes forums and not many things turned up..

If you have one lying around, give it a go?!

JamesHolden said:
i searched "usb harddrive" in the hermes forums and not many things turned up..
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that might be the clue to your answer..... the usb port in the phone lacks the capability to host an actual usb device, whether the external device is powered or not... But give it a go anyway... i cant think of any harm in trying... unless there is some kind of major power backflow, but that shouldnt happen unless your external device is faulty

the OS may support it, but hardware-wise - i dont think the Hermes supports USB hosting? or does it?

My brain says no...
But the hope in me says yes...

Wondered about this myself before.
Doesnt the HTC have the ability to act as an external UsB drive through the USB port when connected to a PC using the Advanced USB settings. Maybe its just a question of reversing the settings maybe with an added utility or something i have an external hard drive but not converter to convert the full usb to a mini usb

4Site said:
Wondered about this myself before.
Doesnt the HTC have the ability to act as an external UsB drive through the USB port when connected to a PC using the Advanced USB settings. Maybe its just a question of reversing the settings maybe with an added utility or something i have an external hard drive but not converter to convert the full usb to a mini usb
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having the device mimmick and external drive and plugging in external storage through USB are 2 completly different things... and it all comes down to the USB host... when you plug your phone into your pc your computer then is able to act as a usb host, as it has the power and the drivers necessary for that... the phone itself lacks the abiltiy to be able to become a usb host...
but hey, at least your thinking

So it may be possible to access a USB HDD if we catered for it using a driver of some sort (written by us guys ofcourse). This may even show up in the file manager as something like /Hard_Drive.?

main procesor (and also OS itself) have support for USB host, but for some reason HTS decide to not enable this feature, it was asked many times, but solution doesnt exist yet... I used this functionallity on my old Fujitsu-Siemens LOOX n500 without necesity to install any drivers, or registry hack, after connection device had available after few second. It was WM5 device.

well think about this:
keep a laptop usb HDD in your car, 160GB of music at your command, with TCPMP who needs a ipod?
i've already modded my stock headset cable to have a 1/8" miniplug AND RCA's on it, so i'm set for the output, but my 4GB of microsd cards just don't cut it
so i'm working on tryin' to find a usb mini b male to usb b male cable right now, might just have to solder one up myself-- i'll post to see how it goes.

I think I've seen them for sale at Radioshack and Compusa - might try peaking in there though if you have a bunch of USB cables kicking around probably cheaper to solder

IF you look around on the net somewhere, someone successfully made a wifi hard drive, and i think it was fairly inexpensive... He loaded tons of mp3's and would access them from his phone via wifi.

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
How about this?

skunker said:
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
How about this?
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Now I got to get me one of these. So many toys, not enough time.

jcb_home said:
Now I got to get me one of these. So many toys, not enough time.
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Looks nice!

I just tried this. And nothing happens. Tried a usb memory key (low power), an external HDD (on its own power supply) and a card reader, none of them did anything.

thanks for the go.. after my weekend spent messing with *nix and tryin' to get into locked up wifi, i was spent.

Connect Athena to external touch screen monitor, possibile?

Hi guys, i am currently trying to set up my Athena with my car, i wonder if it's possible to connect my Athena with a external touch screen monitor like this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-INCH-TOUCH-...9QQihZ005QQcategoryZ32826QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
throw the VGA cable.
I know it will display the screen throw VGA out, but I am not sure whether it will enable the touch screen function, any of you know this?
Thanks a lot
p.s. I will post some screen shot if I succeed in this project.

Is that a PS2 port?
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?

inframan said:
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?
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I am sure you don't need a pen, there are lots of touch screen out there, for example this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....tToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
I just don't know if we simply plug in the vga cable from our Athena to the touch screen, will that work?
Possibility not, I can kind of see a usb cable there, how about plug that in the usb host ? but then maybe we still need to install the driver.....
Basically, what I am trying to do here to use get a bigger screen to show for Athena in a car. So, I will then have much bigger TOMTOM, and also can watch movie or go on internet.
Any good suggestion guys? Thanks a lot for all your help.

I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.

johnwalk said:
I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.
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it seems like they all need to install driver, do you think it will work without driver?

thats the only problem, does it need specialist drivers? I havnt been able to come up with an answer yet.
But i wont be buying one for the car, somone nicked me vario yesterday from the car so not even chancing the Ameo.
I was just going to buy a little 7" tv I bought this tiny Keyboard out of Maplin on offer. thought it would look sweet in the car. but this is giving me other ideas, anybody shed light!

They ALL need specialist drivers.
Touchscreen is absolute position, mouse is relative. You NEED the custom driver. It may be possible, but I dont know how.

1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.

Basmelek said:
1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.
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Thanks for your answer, i just ask one of the seller there on ebay, and the answer I got is I will be able to plug the VGA cable in, that will enable the screen to display, but in order to get the touch screen working, I also need to plug in a USB, so now the question is whether the USB host will work on this....and of course the driver need to work too

The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.

IT WORKS!
Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.

Pyrofer said:
The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.
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Your on the right track with this answer,
Look for a touch screen that has a protocol that is treated as a standard HID ( Human interface device ) Ie:mouse, keyboard etc.etc.
if you can find such a device then the built in drivers for plug and play HID's will work fine.
otherwise the rest are right

Did this really work??? What car? This would simply be quite fantabulous.
cyberlancer said:
Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.
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Palm to Android app port?

I have a odb2 engine monitoring program that i ran on a palm IIIc. The pda crapped out on me the other day. Is anyone willing/able to port this over to work on my HTC Hero?
The program itself has always been free as long as I can recall. The product that you bought was a cable with some sort of module on it so this shouldn't be a warez problem. If it is my apologies.
This is the download link:
http://www.ls1m.com/demo/LS1M_v1.7e.zip
There's an .exe in the zip that you run from the desktop to install to the pda.
This is the website:
http://www.ls1m.com/
I don't even know if it is possible, it would be amazing if it was though. LMK
Thanks!

No one? Don't be scared to tell me it can't be done if that is the case. Is there a better place to ask?
Sent from my Hero running CyanogenMod Stable

I'm guessing that the hardware in the cable does most of the heavy lifting. It looks to be a CAN to RS232 cable so the app would just have to deal with serial communications. Unfortunately, I don't think most androids have any kind of serial connection.

That's how I think it works too. Yes it is a serial cable, i was just hoping to use a serial to usb adaptor, then usb to mini usb cable. I'm a dumb dumb, so I don't know what it would take for android to handle it.
This is just something that I envisioned, I have no idea if it is a practical task or not.
Thanks for the input.

gmoney41685 said:
That's how I think it works too. Yes it is a serial cable, i was just hoping to use a serial to usb adaptor, then usb to mini usb cable. I'm a dumb dumb, so I don't know what it would take for android to handle it.
This is just something that I envisioned, I have no idea if it is a practical task or not.
Thanks for the input.
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As far as I know, the android USB is "device" only. To use it with a RS232 adapter, you'd need a USB "host" device.

I have the solution to your woes. Check out the app called Torque on the market. My favorite app on android period. It can do everything your palm app can 10X. It uses a bluetootb odb2 adapter. They're 26 bucks on ebay. I use the program on my S2000 for datalogging and its a godsend. Buy the paid version, the developer responds to requests and is constantly updating the program.
www.appbrain.com/app/torque/org.prowl.torque
Devs site is torque–bhp.Com
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