I miss my Trinity.
Been using HTC since they weren't branding themselves. My first phone was the Space Needle (ATT Pocket PC). I loved it. Did so much with it. Later flashed it, was very nice.
Then I moved on to the I-Mate Jam. Smaller, sleeker, also fun.
Then I got the Trinity P3600. This is absolutely the best phone there is in my opinion. It's small, light, has GPS, a decent camera, video call, mini SD slot.
I got more from my P3600 and a 2gb card than the HD has given me.
Yes, the HD has more memory, huge screen, better camera (although annoying, and who REALLY uses the camera on their phone for 'real' pictures), ..... wait, what more? For me, nothing.
I miss my d-pad. Try using the HD to go to Call History and view the contact details of the third caller down. You can't! No Way to move down. If you touch the contact, it calls him!!
Try finding a contact with the last name that begins with 'M' when you have 100+ contacts who begin with 'M' and the one you want is in the middle of the list. Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!! I'm using one hand. The only way is 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking'.
You've heard of "tennis elbow", now there's "flick thumb". What a pain!
And the soft touch buttons. USELESS!!!! First of all, forget the third one, the 'back arrow'. Does anyone use it? I don't. USELESS.
Now, try answering a call while the HD it in it's protective sleeve. While you're trying to slide the damn thing out, you almost inevidibly "answer" or "ignore" by accidentally pressing one of the soft buttons!! USELESS!
Now try putting the HD in your pocket or in the center console in your car. You will soon start hearing.....blip-blip-blip-blip-blip....... That's the soft keys being pressed accidentally.......Now look at the phone, it's frozen with just a start button.
..and and and......
I can go on, but this phone is hard to handle, very "touchy" and just a general PAIN IN THE A$$ to use, not to mention expensive as H3LL!!!
Glad I never sold my P3600. Will be going back to my old tried and true friend today. I flashed my Trinity to WM6.1, and it's GREAT!!!
Hope I can find a sucker to buy the HD before everyone starts realizing it sucks.
Thanks for listening!
-JoJo
haha, u made me laugh
well, firstly, were u blind when u were buying HD? I always check how device looks first, and you? Didn't u see it doesn't has a Dpad?
secondly, all your other problems are that you don't know what's a LOCK DEVICE function is...
in a conclusion, learn how to lock the device first, then you can talk about it
I miss my Trinity.
You still have it, so how can you miss it??
I miss my d-pad. Try using the HD to go to Call History and view the contact details of the third caller down. You can't! No Way to move down. If you touch the contact, it calls him!!
Working fine here.....
Try finding a contact with the last name that begins with 'M' when you have 100+ contacts who begin with 'M' and the one you want is in the middle of the list. Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!! I'm using one hand. The only way is 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking' 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking'.
You've heard of "tennis elbow", now there's "flick thumb". What a pain!
Don´t quite understand the problem.....
And the soft touch buttons. USELESS!!!! First of all, forget the third one, the 'back arrow'. Does anyone use it? I don't. USELESS.
Use AEButton Plus and assign any functions you like....
Now, try answering a call while the HD it in it's protective sleeve. While you're trying to slide the damn thing out, you almost inevidibly "answer" or "ignore" by accidentally pressing one of the soft buttons!! USELESS!
Agreed.....that´s why I never used the pouch...
Now try putting the HD in your pocket or in the center console in your car. You will soon start hearing.....blip-blip-blip-blip-blip....... That's the soft keys being pressed accidentally.......Now look at the phone, it's frozen with just a start button.
Can´t duplicate....
The Bug is not the device but rather the User...in this case
I was very concerned when I saw this thread as I will finally get my HD tomorrow. All the complaints made seem to be a user problem, I was able to do everything he couldn't do on my Diamond just using the screen, so I assume that that would be exactly the same as the HD.
I think everyone on these forums understands that most WM phones aren't the best out of the box but with tweaking the phones are made into great devices that are really interesting and are never boring because you can change so much.
If you want a device that just works with minimal functions so you don't get upset or have brain overload, the iphone is a great peace of hardware but WM has so much more to offer if you are willing to tweak and play around abit.
I think instead of posting "I hate the HD", it would be more appropriate to post.... "I need some help with some functions" and with the wealth of knowledge here you will get some answers very quick and not give people like me heart attacks reading your misleading posts.
seal said:
I think everyone on these forums understands that most WM phones aren't the best out of the box but with tweaking the phones are made into great devices that are really interesting and are never boring because you can change so much.
If you want a device that just works with minimal functions so you don't get upset or have brain overload, the iphone is a great peace of hardware but WM has so much more to offer if you are willing to tweak and play around abit.
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i wouldnt say iphone was a great piece of hardware, but it is miles better for usability...
my hd is a hardware investment till the chaps on this forum make it awesome
All the other points has been covered... So:
I miss my d-pad. Try using the HD to go to Call History and view the contact details of the third caller down. You can't! No Way to move down. If you touch the contact, it calls him!!
-> Flick
Try finding a contact with the last name that begins with 'M' when you have 100+ contacts who begin with 'M' and the one you want is in the middle of the list. Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!! I'm using one hand. The only way is 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking'.
You've heard of "tennis elbow", now there's "flick thumb". What a pain!
-> Basically, i never used the contacts list . Always use the dial key, bring up the keypad, and use smart dialing - much much faster. and yes, its 1 hand operation. You probably not aware of this obvious function? E.g. if you want to call John, type in your keypad 5606 . In the contacts list, There's a alphabet along the screen... touch letter M and it brings u to the M part of your contacts list... i dont think any of us have less than 100 contacts in our phone .
All these are purely your problem for not learning how to use it. not the phone's problem.
The Touch HD surely has flaws, like any other phone, but all of your problems can be avoid by learning how to use it.
Hey, for 100 usd I will be the sucker who buys it..
I could go line by line and combat everything this member says is "wrong" with the HD but I wont. All i can say is i am just not hving the problems he describes None of them with maybe the exception of I simply just dont use the camera. I use my real camera for pic taking
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what he said.
well....
i would give you 101.00 USD for this phone.....
if you are not able to swim,
the reason is allways the bathing suit
jojothedogfacedboy said:
I miss my Trinity.
.........Glad I never sold my P3600. Will be going back to my old tried and true friend today. I flashed my Trinity to WM6.1, and it's GREAT!!!
Hope I can find a sucker to buy the HD before everyone starts realizing it sucks.
Thanks for listening!
-JoJo
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Yeah... glad I haven't sold my stonewheel cart... I truly hate my Porsche Boxter..
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jojothedogfacedboy said:
I miss my Trinity..
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Yes, the HD has more memory, huge screen, better camera (although annoying, and who REALLY uses the camera on their phone for 'real' pictures), ..... wait, what more? For me, nothing.
I miss my d-pad.
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Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!!
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And the soft touch buttons. USELESS!!!! First of all, forget the third one, the 'back arrow'. Does anyone use it? I don't. USELESS.
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Now, try answering a call while the HD it in it's protective sleeve. While you're trying to slide the damn thing out, you almost inevidibly "answer" or "ignore" by accidentally pressing one of the soft buttons!! USELESS!
Now try putting the HD in your pocket or in the center console in your car. You will soon start hearing.....blip-blip-blip-blip-blip....... That's the soft keys being pressed accidentally.......Now look at the phone, it's frozen with just a start button.
..and and and......
I can go on, but this phone is hard to handle, very "touchy" and just a general PAIN IN THE A$$ to use, not to mention expensive as H3LL!!!
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I Love this one: "I DON'T WANT TO!!" - I have a picture in my head of an angry little man dancing around a fire
Yes, I liked my PALM III very much but i came over it. Yes I understand "I DON'T WANT TO!!"
Not once you had a good point. Not once! You should have found one by accident.
The one thing I miss is the roller-wheel of my hermes. But it sounds like I could remap the volume rocker to do something similar, anyone tried this?
I've never used a full touch screen phone before, so like a cautious person I went in to the Orange shop and asked for a demo, which they were happy to give, and realised it wasn't all that daunting. A number of the annoyances with it so far are thanks to the not-so-touch-friendly Winmo 6.1, when someone cracks Android for this thing (apparently the Touch HD will be the new T-Mobile G2 according to the rumour mill) I'll be more than happy to try it out, plus the modding community will fix it up with their godlike skills, I'm just glad I found these forums!
Objective view, please...
I think most people here did not get the points raised here or have not been objective in their response (it is obvious they are product of their ne gadget); the phone as Windows Mobile is not per se user-friendly. The interface incorporated by HTC is not perfect. The hardware is therefore inadequate since it cannot be complemented by a good piece of software .
HTC has effectively delivered this phone in the same manner as it has done with other previouus devices (albeit a modified soft keyboard) with keypad. Even the TF3D for a WVGA screen, there is not difference to VGA devices, only larger icon and the Stock tab!
Excessive tweaking of the device is not always a good solution as it impacts other areas of the device.
Therefore stating all this is down to user is a best an over statement.
With all this feedback I wonder how HTC development team will feel! I for one do not complaint for the issues raised but admit they are serious problem. I can recall not being able to open the battery cover and having to refer to the manual, still it will not open. Only after several attempts the process became easier.
The iPhone is not always a valid alterative either, since many people wish to have applications that are not designed for this platform, such as any device car navigation program. This is particularly true in this case, as the poster clearly stated his background!
Personally, I must say my main decision for purchasing the BlackStone was merely for the screen size, having used the Universal for over year and then going down to Polaris (screen size wise), and with no sign of the Omni, I was “forced” again to a half solution. Any other aspect of the device was secondary in importance…
Ha, ha, ha...
Ha, ha, ha... thanx for the laugh, angry man
All new gadgets takes some getting use to... The HD i no exeption, especially when you cant use the software your used to because of the screen.
I love my HD though..
What a sound response carla!
carola said:
I think most people here did not get the points raised here or have not been objective in their response (it is obvious they are product of their ne gadget); the phone as Windows Mobile is not per se user-friendly. The interface incorporated by HTC is not perfect. The hardware is therefore inadequate since it cannot be complemented by a good piece of software .
HTC has effectively delivered this phone in the same manner as it has done with other previouus devices (albeit a modified soft keyboard) with keypad. Even the TF3D for a WVGA screen, there is not difference to VGA devices, only larger icon and the Stock tab!
Excessive tweaking of the device is not always a good solution as it impacts other areas of the device.
Therefore stating all this is down to user is a best an over statement.
With all this feedback I wonder how HTC development team will feel! I for one do not complaint for the issues raised but admit they are serious problem. I can recall not being able to open the battery cover and having to refer to the manual, still it will not open. Only after several attempts the process became easier.
The iPhone is not always a valid alterative either, since many people wish to have applications that are not designed for this platform, such as any device car navigation program. This is particularly true in this case, as the poster clearly stated his background!
Personally, I must say my main decision for purchasing the BlackStone was merely for the screen size, having used the Universal for over year and then going down to Polaris (screen size wise), and with no sign of the Omni, I was “forced” again to a half solution. Any other aspect of the device was secondary in importance…
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I've been quite concerned about HD since I ordered it, and then once I got it (overpriced on HTC distribution orders to retail stores), etc. And finally with many "small" issues I wrote in other threads.
So I fully understand the feelings of angry users.
Has anybody noticed we, (concernerd users) are greatly defined by our previous machine?
It has come to my attention through this and other forums, that ex-TRINITY users are prone to be "in love" with it and not very pleased with HD.
I think this is really somthing to be investigated.
Finally, toying around in a phone store with the machine (if you have had the chance) is not enough to put all the blame in the "unconscious" buyer, it's simply not fair in todays e-shopping.
HTC did a very poor job putting the HD in the market for Christmas time, hope it will get fixed over the time, but i'm still very upset with HTC way of launching new devices.
I won't address all the issues, because other people already have, and because it really just sounds like the problem is more with what YOU like and don't like - and not with the phone. Either you are used to a certain way and you don't really want to change or you are not aware of how you can do things differently to better use the phone. In any case, I do respect your opinion and you have every right to express those thoughts here. Okay, so here are a couple of thoughts from my side.
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who REALLY uses the camera on their phone for 'real' pictures), ..... wait, what more? For me, nothing.
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The camera is descent - not excellent - but descent. The lack of flash is a known downfall. However, keep in mind that no phone out there will replace the quality of an actual camera. The camera feature on the phone is an extra commodity for those moments when you don't want to take a real camera with you or for those good times, when you are hanging out with friends and you don't need to shoot the greatest quality pictures. No camera phone is meant to be used as your main camera for vacation shots etc.
I miss my d-pad. Try using the HD to go to Call History and view the contact details of the third caller down. You can't! No Way to move down. If you touch the contact, it calls him!!
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Maybe you don't understand how this feature works. On my HD, if I tap once on a number in the call history list, it DOES NOT call right away, but instead it brings up the call history for that caller alone. Then:
If the caller is in my contacts list, I see the name at the top and possibly a picture (if I added one). Below this, it shows me the call history.
If I tap on the name/picture, it pulls up a list of numbers and email addresses for that contact. If I once again tap on the name/picture, it brings me to that listing so I can edit the contact's information. I can always cancel by pressing menu at the bottom.
If I tap on a given missed call itself, it will call that number. The nice thing is that if that person called me once from their home and another time from their mobile, I can see that here and I can choose which number to call back.
If the caller is NOT in my contacts list, then I simply see "unknown" at the top and then the number that called below that (provided that person does not have their number blocked from callerID). If I tap on the number, it will call that person. If I tap on "unknown", I will eventually end up on my contacts list, where I can assign that number to a contact or I can create a new contact with that number.
I do have to admit, that it has happened a few times, that a contact calls me and in the call history list, I only see the number as if it were an unknown person. In that case, I have assigned that number to the contact and it overrides the number I already had. I don't know why that is. Maybe because some numbers I have entered as 0177-555-5555 and others as +491775555555 (in Germany).
Anyone know if that makes a difference? It seems that sometimes it does and other times it doesn't.
Try finding a contact with the last name that begins with 'M' when you have 100+ contacts who begin with 'M' and the one you want is in the middle of the list. Oh, "just start typing part of the name" you might say. I DON'T WANT TO!! I'm using one hand. The only way is 'flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking''flicking'.
You've heard of "tennis elbow", now there's "flick thumb". What a pain!
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Huh?? Flicking is A LOT faster than pressing a D-pad arrow 80 times to get to your contact. You could also press the M or N on the alphabest list on the right. That way, you'll either see the beginning of the M's or the end of the M's and you can flick from there. Seriously - flicking goes really fast. And typing the first two letters into the name box is NOT that bad. You see, the possibilities here are endless!
Now try putting the HD in your pocket or in the center console in your car. You will soon start hearing.....blip-blip-blip-blip-blip....... That's the soft keys being pressed accidentally.......Now look at the phone, it's frozen with just a start button.
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A simple press of the power button locks your phone - and guess what..... no more blip-blip-blip-blip-blip.
Now simply press the power button again and you can blip-blip-blip all you want.
So, there now - you must certainly LOVE your HD now, right?
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I just upgraded from an XDAii, and obviously there are many advantages, but also many disadvantages. Let me run through a few of my qualms and see if you can help with any.
1. Less "toolbars" in programs
For example, the photo album app in XDAii had a row of buttons for slideshow, start, stop, full screen, rotate, etc etc.... Most of this is accessible through the menu system, but full screen seems to be missing comletely.
Also the calendar comes to mind. The row of buttons for day, week, month and year was a godsend
2. speaker screech
Anything over a certain noise level seems to come though in a really piercing way that I have to hold the phoneawayfrom my ear
3. Phone pad not working in messaging
The phone pad entry method, the one that replicates the keypad of a normal mobile phone, cannot be used for the thing it would be most commonly used for - SMS messaging. WHY?!?!
4. Phone "themes" missing
Remember in the photo contacts app, where you could apply different themes to contacts when they call, like the row of carrots, or the glistening heart? What happened to that?
5. Less hardware buttons
The contacts and calendar hardware buttons have been replaced by an extra row on the screen. Yes, there are buttons on the keyboard which link to them, but that doesn't help me when trying to configure 3 control buttons in Worms, does it.
6. Add ringtones?
Ok we have ups and downs here. On the plus side, MP3 ringtones are now supported. On the flipside, you can't file them into folders, they have to place in the My Documents route directory in order to be accessible. Is there a way round this?
I hope someone can help me. Any info you can give will be much appreciated
GaZ said:
1. Less "toolbars" in programs
For example, the photo album app in XDAii had a row of buttons for slideshow, start, stop, full screen, rotate, etc etc.... Most of this is accessible through the menu system, but full screen seems to be missing comletely.
Also the calendar comes to mind. The row of buttons for day, week, month and year was a godsend
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This is an annoying one and I don't know of a fix for it. The first part is down the to album program I think, if it is just called 'Pictures' then it is the one which came with mine too and it isn't very good at all. I replaced it with Resco Photo Viewer. As for the calendar part, those buttons you mentioned are accessed through 'menu' - again, annoying and takes more time.
Anyone?
hmmmm...... oki doki, not sure if i can help.... but lets step through....
I just upgraded from an XDAii, and obviously there are many advantages, but also many disadvantages. Let me run through a few of my qualms and see if you can help with any.
BEFORE WE GET TO FAR, THERE ARE ISSUES HERE, MANY OF THEM, AND THEY MAY OUTWEIGH THE ADVANTAGES.
1. Less "toolbars" in programs
For example, the photo album app in XDAii had a row of buttons for slideshow, start, stop, full screen, rotate, etc etc.... Most of this is accessible through the menu system, but full screen seems to be missing comletely.
THE M$ VERSIONS ARE EXTREMELY CUT DOWN, BRIEF FUNCTIONALITY, AND THIS IS THE FIRST THAT DOESNT COMPARE TO PURCHASABLE OPTIONS, AND THERE ARE A VARIETY OF THEM.
IN THE END, ITS STILL OK, BUT NEXT TO USELESS.
AGREE, USE RESCO, BUT BEWARE IT IN ITSELF IS MEMORY HUNGRY FOR THE FUNCTION.
Also the calendar comes to mind. The row of buttons for day, week, month and year was a godsend
ITS STILL IN THE OPTIONS, BUT IF THAT IS YOUR ONLY COMPLAINT ON CALENDAR, THEN YOUR DOING WELL.
2. speaker screech
Anything over a certain noise level seems to come though in a really piercing way that I have to hold the phoneawayfrom my ear
DONT GET IT, GETS A BIT TINNY AT HIGH VOLUME. GS PLAYER HAS A BASE AND EQUALISER BUILT IN AND PLAYS BETTER QUALITY SOUND THAN M$, AND IS FREE.
3. Phone pad not working in messaging
The phone pad entry method, the one that replicates the keypad of a normal mobile phone, cannot be used for the thing it would be most commonly used for - SMS messaging. WHY?!?!
DIDNT YOU GET THE UNIVERSAL THAT HAD A KEYBOARD!!!???
4. Phone "themes" missing
Remember in the photo contacts app, where you could apply different themes to contacts when they call, like the row of carrots, or the glistening heart? What happened to that?
NEVER USED THEMES, STARTED TO USE PICTURES WHICH IS AVAILABLE, ALONG WITH INDIVIDUAL RING TONES (INDIVIDUALLY THOUGH, NOT BY CATEGORY WHICH IS PAINFUL WHEN YOU HAVE LOTS). CANT YOU JUST APPLY THE THEME LIKE YOU WOULD A PICTURE? INSIDE CONTACTS.
5. Less hardware buttons
The contacts and calendar hardware buttons have been replaced by an extra row on the screen. Yes, there are buttons on the keyboard which link to them, but that doesn't help me when trying to configure 3 control buttons in Worms, does it.
I ALSO APPLIED THE "VIDEO CALL" BUTTON TO CALENDAR, AND THERE IS A CUSTOMISABLE BUTTON FOR CONTACTS THAT ARE NEXT TO THE TWO SOFT KEY BUTTONS. THE MOMENT YOU GO INSIDE AN APP, THE SOFT KEYS CHANGE, AND I ALWAYS NEED QUICK ACCESS TO CONTACTS AND CALENDAR, SO IN EFFECT ON A TODAY SCREEN, I HAVE TWO BUTTONS TO ACCESS CONTACTS/CALENDAR.
6. Add ringtones?
Ok we have ups and downs here. On the plus side, MP3 ringtones are now supported. On the flipside, you can't file them into folders, they have to place in the My Documents route directory in order to be accessible. Is there a way round this?
\WINDOWS\RINGS
BUT STILL NO SUB DIRECTORIES, BUT AT LEAST THEY DONT CLUTTER A USELESS MYDOCS.
I hope someone can help me. Any info you can give will be much appreciated
AGAIN, THERE ARE MUCH GREATER ISSUES IN THE UNIVERSAL THAN THOSE MENTIONED ABOVE. I THINK IF THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, AND YOU ARE HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, BE GRATEFUL.
I realise there are many side steps around my issues, but they're some of the thing that made me love my XDAii. Like the hardware buttons, made it so easy to use PocketSNES. You turned it sideways and instantly had a d-pad on your left, and 4 buttons on your right (just like a SNES pad). And calendar, I know it has the options on the menu, but I miss the quick functionality.
Oh, and yes my Exec obviously does have the QWERTY keypad, but this isn't always conveniant when walking, or holding many bags, or drinking in a crowded pub. The phone pad was the texting solution I've been waiting for for years, and doesn't work in the application it's needed most in :x
Thanks for informing me of the windows\rings folder. That's one bonus at least.
So what are your qualms with the Exec? I'm guessing deeper things like memory useage and stuff?
none really, I am happy thru n thru
weight n size perhaps. the price for a double thumb keyboard...
I just read a lot of negative comments and complaints and few people saying how good it is overall for price n quantity of gadgets in such a small package.
Ok, The toolbar thing is a bit annoying at first, but you get used to it and I prefer the aesthetics of a 'cleaner' looking screen without all sorts of icons at the bottom making everything look untidy (personal preference though). Lack of hardware buttons on the face of the phone when it's in PDA mode is not something I've even thought about, but I can see how it would cause issues for game-players. Bit of a shame, but I doubt if it's a consideration for many OEM's, they don't really build WM phones with gaming ergonomics as a high priority issue...
Not had problems with the speaker, and sticking ringtones in the \Windows\Rings folder is good enough for me - why would you need to sub-categorise them? Unless you have dozens of them that you change on a daily basis?
I'm interested in your comment that the "Phone pad" doesn't work in the Messaging app though? Mine works perfectly well...is this something that others have problems with? Maybe you have a dodgy ROM or something?
Oh, and I never knew that the theme could be changed depending on who was calling? Didn't that take aaaaages, and slow the response of the phone down to a crawl!?
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Ok, The toolbar thing is a bit annoying at first, but you get used to it and I prefer the aesthetics of a 'cleaner' looking screen without all sorts of icons at the bottom making everything look untidy (personal preference though). Lack of hardware buttons on the face of the phone when it's in PDA mode is not something I've even thought about, but I can see how it would cause issues for game-players. Bit of a shame, but I doubt if it's a consideration for many OEM's, they don't really build WM phones with gaming ergonomics as a high priority issue...
Not had problems with the speaker, and sticking ringtones in the \Windows\Rings folder is good enough for me - why would you need to sub-categorise them? Unless you have dozens of them that you change on a daily basis?
I'm interested in your comment that the "Phone pad" doesn't work in the Messaging app though? Mine works perfectly well...is this something that others have problems with? Maybe you have a dodgy ROM or something?
Oh, and I never knew that the theme could be changed depending on who was calling? Didn't that take aaaaages, and slow the response of the phone down to a crawl!?
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I never knew about the windows\rings folder before posting this so that answered that one.
As for phone pad, it definitely isn't working in messaging, so I may try a newer ROM, but only if it can be downloaded from the official O2 site.
The phone themes, did indeed slow it down, but I thought rather than exclude them they'd work on it and make them better.
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The phone pad was the texting solution I've been waiting for for years, and doesn't work in the application it's needed most in :x
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Seriously, you must be the only person on this planet that was wishing for that - you have a keyboard and a keyboard on the screen... what the heck :shock:
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GaZ said:
The phone pad was the texting solution I've been waiting for for years, and doesn't work in the application it's needed most in :x
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Seriously, you must be the only person on this planet that was wishing for that - you have a keyboard and a keyboard on the screen... what the heck :shock:
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As you may have read if you looked at my previous reply, the keyboard is no good for one handed use (ie: whilst holding a pint in a crowded pub)
i deeply like the specification, but after i was flexible with my diamond's direction button, i was confucing with Touch HD, no direction button.
not every software can use like Oprea's touch feeling, many of the application do not support scroll.
guys, what did you think about the no direction button?
I think youll only miss it when you want to play certain games.
In fact this is one thing (absence of a d-pad) which is making me even consider the Xperia.
I use spreadsheets a lot. I really don't know how effieient it would be to use spreadsheets without a d-pad
Other small things such as using the smart dialer to send SMS messages. I just imagine when you press a few keys on the smart dialer and have a list of contacts how do you select a contact to send a text message to. I believe as soon as you touch the contact with your finger it will start dialing
I use the D pad to control audio, without having to pull out my device from my pants pocket. With the HD, I am giving that up, it's a huge negative. But I'm still going to go for it, love that big screen. If I had bought a iTouch or iPhone, I would have the same problem. Just figure out if you're willing to give it up or not.
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I use the D pad to control audio, without having to pull out my device from my pants pocket. With the HD, I am giving that up, it's a huge negative. But I'm still going to go for it, love that big screen. If I had bought a iTouch or iPhone, I would have the same problem. Just figure out if you're willing to give it up or not.
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I still hope that there will be a remote for earplugs to slip track and volume. Just for the normal 3.5 jack, like on the nokia phones.. I hope, because that'll be important for me.. Greez, cad^^
cadenza said:
I still hope that there will be a remote for earplugs to slip track and volume. Just for the normal 3.5 jack, like on the nokia phones.. I hope, because that'll be important for me.. Greez, cad^^
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There is a blue tooth headset clip that has the controls on it, and you plug in your headphone into the unit. We will have to see if you can plug into the 3.5mm plug and still use the BT device just for controls. That would be best of both worlds.
This is something I am afraid
I want to be able to play "most" games ...
Especially emulators ...
I saw iPhone has nice emulators with "virtual buttons" ... but I have never seen one in WinMo !!
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I think youll only miss it when you want to play certain games.
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I just imagine when you press a few keys on the smart dialer and have a list of contacts how do you select a contact to send a text message to. I believe as soon as you touch the contact with your finger it will start dialing
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It does... That annoys me no end. I can't drag a contact upwards to scroll - it dials them. In the "Last Called" list.
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I use the D pad to control audio, without having to pull out my device from my pants pocket. With the HD, I am giving that up, it's a huge negative. But I'm still going to go for it, love that big screen. If I had bought a iTouch or iPhone, I would have the same problem. Just figure out if you're willing to give it up or not.
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No you wouldn't - the iPhone has a dedicated volume control on the side, and a remote button for track skipping etc on the headset
I can honestly say that after a week with the iPhone, and an interface that's actually designed 100% around the touchscreen, I've never once missed the d-pad for anything. I doubt the same would be true of the Touch HD.
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In fact this is one thing (absence of a d-pad) which is making me even consider the Xperia.
I use spreadsheets a lot. I really don't know how effieient it would be to use spreadsheets without a d-pad
Other small things such as using the smart dialer to send SMS messages. I just imagine when you press a few keys on the smart dialer and have a list of contacts how do you select a contact to send a text message to. I believe as soon as you touch the contact with your finger it will start dialing
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SRMZ, +1
I still cannot decide which model to choose - X1 or HD - and now I am thinking more and more of getting an X1. I simply understand that the only thing about HD that I am going to really love and cream-my-pants because of is the 3.8" screen.
I think that HD is a perfect device for non-WM-addicts, for people who will use just TF3D-interface and Opera at most, without installing any tweaks/programs/registry-hacks/emulators/debuggers/consoles/younameit. Cause when you want to install one of them, you're in trouble - no hardware keys, no D-pad... Achtung!
One more thing I thought about.. Every phone has a kind of a "secret combination of keys", e g "turn-on-the-phone-holding-two-buttons-pressed-and-enter-diagnostics-mode". I wonder if the sensor buttons would do that?
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It does... That annoys me no end. I can't drag a contact upwards to scroll - it dials them. In the "Last Called" list.
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For devices with less hardware buttons, AEBPlus helped a lot. Would someone be kind enough to try it out to see if it helps at all? You can uninstall easily, at least I did on my Ameo.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
I'm another one on the X1 or HD trail. HD for screen, X1 for dpad.
Fortunately I'm with orange so I think I'll just get the HD and if i don't like it, send it back in the 14 day window and get the X1.
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I'm another one on the X1 or HD trail. HD for screen, X1 for dpad.
Fortunately I'm with orange so I think I'll just get the HD and if i don't like it, send it back in the 14 day window and get the X1.
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Same here... i can get the HD today if i want to, but still considering the Xperia...
Hrmmm....I was under the impression that the button area at the bottom of the phone (where the 4 buttons are) was touch sensetive and could be used for scrolling similar to diamond....is this not the case? That thing about not being able to scroll through call history scares me.....
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I'm another one on the X1 or HD trail. HD for screen, X1 for dpad.
Fortunately I'm with orange so I think I'll just get the HD and if i don't like it, send it back in the 14 day window and get the X1.
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As I will be buying it SIM free I am not sure if I get the 14 return option or not, though I thought that was in the UK law, but it's unclear on CPW's website.
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I'm another one on the X1 or HD trail. HD for screen, X1 for dpad.
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Exactly same trail i am stuck on. Unfortunately i just have one shot at it. Either the X1 or HD, and then stick with it atleast for an year before i change for a new one!
Ive got both.....much prefer the HD
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As I will be buying it SIM free I am not sure if I get the 14 return option or not, though I thought that was in the UK law, but it's unclear on CPW's website.
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Yes, it's called distance selling regulations or DSR. If you're unhappy with anything you've brought in the past 14 days unseen (ie mail order or online) you can return it under DSR. I believe they are allow to ask for a restocking fee but it can't be anymore than a certain % of the device cost. Google DSR for more info.
I'm very put off by the lack of hardware buttons. This phone can only be used two handed. If it had the same hardware buttons as the Hermes and Kaiser it'd be a killer device.
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I'm very put off by the lack of hardware buttons. This phone can only be used two handed. If it had the same hardware buttons as the Hermes and Kaiser it'd be a killer device.
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Dear Sir,
May I please have some of the coolaid you are drinking? The Touch HD occupies similar dimensions to that of an iphone....the iphone can be used with one hand - I do so on a regular basis - therefore what is it that has convinced you that one handed operation is not supported?
This sounds like a very useful dialer ..
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/03/eyes-free-shell-for-android-actually-delivers-on-its-name/
i.e. touch any part of screen and it will be 'five' then your gestures will decide which number to pick. With every number you 'go over' you get a feedback (vibrate/key click).
Would be awesome if someone can port it over to windows mobile.
It would be sweet to have this for WinMo.
However, if it will be a paid app I'll skip it though.
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This sounds like a very useful dialer ..
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/03/eyes-free-shell-for-android-actually-delivers-on-its-name/
i.e. touch any part of screen and it will be 'five' then your gestures will decide which number to pick. With every number you 'go over' you get a feedback (vibrate/key click).
Would be awesome if someone can port it over to windows mobile.
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Thats brilliant if u ever find one for the HTC Wizard do post
I dunno about the vibrations and whatnot to dial. It would be like morse code lol... but a full sized canvas for you to draw numbers wouldnt be all bad. it could even use gestures and still not require you to physically look at the phone when you dial. A
brilliant idea
what for is this solution?
If someone is blaind then I uterstand but in other case i can't find enything briliant in that thing. Sometging new but useless for me ....
msvc or cyberon anyone?
Nah its just useful if you are preoccupied doing something and you'd rather not look at the phone when you're dialing.. for example.. say you're watching a movie and its getting good.. but then your girlfriend asks you to call her friend and ask her what time your gonna meet her somewhere and blah blah.. So to put it simply, it just makes life easier.
Honestly how many people these days remember numbers? Most people just stick a number in their contacts. The only numbers I could tell you off the top of my head are my own and my wife's.
ever tried to use the time when driving for 'useful' purpose like navigating complex phone tree ('press 3 for billing followed by your account number') ?
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Nah its just useful if you are preoccupied doing something and you'd rather not look at the phone when you're dialing.. for example.. say you're watching a movie and its getting good.. but then your girlfriend asks you to call her friend and ask her what time your gonna meet her somewhere and blah blah.. So to put it simply, it just makes life easier.
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...hate wen that happens
cool app, excellence in its simplicity i have to say
here it goes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501938
i worked on this today.
let's see what you think
I just wasted close to a thousand US$ on the most brain damaged SmartPhone ever constructed by HTC - and they've got a lot of brain damaged products to show for.
For one, that IDIOTIC keyboard they got built in there NEVER,EVER lets me finish what I'm typing.
IT allways(!) ends up "correcting me" in mid word and 99% of the time, it corrects it wrongly.
It simply exchanges one letter for another and I'm sure is darn proud of itself while doing it.
And no, I already tried disabling "auto-correction" in the device input options, and it doesn't change a thing.
This is just a moronic design!!!!
How the f$#! can I get that plain old & boring Windows Mobile keyboard to work on that thing?!
Then try TouchPal Pro. But for me, I prefer HD2 native keyboard. The T9 mode is useful.
I'd recommend calibrating the screen (with your thumbs, as if you're using the phone), and just slow down and get used to it. It does take a while, but I can type very fast with it now and very rarely make mistakes. The keyboard takes a lot of practice, but is worth it.
I have T9 mode on and auto-correct off. I like to have suggestions, but don't like it forcing words on me. It usually gives me the correct word by the time I'm half way through typing it, so this obviously speeds up typing.
Incidentally, T9 rather eerily learns how you type. It seems to adapt to your typing style as you go along, so stick with it, or just turn it off completely if you want no suggestions at all.
Deactivate T9 on the keyboard.
I didn't feel happy with the original keyboard, too.
Tried Resco keyboard 5.23.
Now i have a better accuracy.
If you must do the tap tap thing... Touchpal 4.0.... however, I find that Swype is the best and really really fast.... it's almost like magic...
Yes... turn off T9....
HTC HD2 Keyboard is KILLING ME!
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Then DIE or use the forum SEARCH!
T9 is supposed to learn your "style", you can't expect it to correct everything right without you teaching it first.
Dont run just yet
You shouldnt need to change ur keyboard... i tried Swipe and i think its really good but still can use the HTC at top speed with T9 and correction on
Things to try first
1.Recalibrate
2.Install 3.3 Cab from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604831
3 if you dont want to reduce sensitivity just add a screen protector takes away about 3-5% of sensitiveness
Thats all I have done and i dont dread sending texts anymore
Hope this helps
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Then DIE or use the forum SEARCH!
T9 is supposed to learn your "style", you can't expect it to correct everything right without you teaching it first.
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Your heart warming reply was so (not) helpful that it makes me appreciate the other responses which contain actual hints - rather than mindless insults - that much more.
Thanks once more (for nothing)
And by the way, I specifically stated that I did not want *anything* to be auto corrected - as I can correct myself a lot faster if I don't have to correct the keyboard first all the time.
Sorry, but there are countless threads about the keyboard. If you're not able to search before you open another one, then it's your fault if you get resposes like this.
Same for your stupid thread title. Make a proper thread title, use the search and you won't get such responses.
And if you disable T9 and autocorrection, then it won't correct you. If you're still not able to type, then it's your fault. It doesn't exchange letters just for fun. It's you pressing the wrong keys.
This is just a moronic design!!!!
How the f$#! can I get that plain old & boring Windows Mobile keyboard to work on that thing?![/QUOTE]
Try the Swype keyboard!
See that T9 switch at the left of the keyboard? Press it. Problem gone.
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...I just wasted close to a thousand US$ on the most brain damaged SmartPhone ever constructed by HTC -This is just a moronic design!!!!
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Understand your anger and frustration if the you are not getting on with the device but a couple of points:
- There are a lot of people (not all) who are happy with their device and have found solutions to the keyboard issue (some suggestions in this thread) so the problem might be your technique perhaps?
- Also, given that you spent nearly $1K on this device, did you not test one out thoroughly first BEFORE buying it? I can't see anyone being silly enough to spend that amount of money on anything, whether its a phone or a vehicle, before checking it out first?
Really interested in your answer to the 2nd question in particular.
Hopefully with the help you have been given here so far and if you take your time you will eventually be able to work with the device. I don't have the issues you have but where I have not been comfortable, adopting a solution off XDA, having searched first, has worked for me.
WB
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I recommend to use Swype.
die and prove it
superplayboy said:
die and prove it
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Way to go making friends on the forum superplayboy.
kengkaj.s said:
I recommend to use Swype.
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I totally agree with this. Whilst I don't hate the original keyboard I did find it a touch fiddly. Swype is fantastic IMO' a great idea and so easy to use.
I can sympathise with the frustrations here. I like using auto correct and am very familiar with all of HTCs onscreen keyboards, along with those of the omnia i8000, Galaxy and iPhone and I must say that although the HD2 keyboard isn't the WORST, it can be most frustrating, particularly when you need to type out a quick text. most of my problems stem from what seems to be poor prediction algorithms. let me say that I am no Apple fanboy, but this keyboard has a long way to go to be as excellent as that of the iPhone: often on here if I get ONE letter wrong at the start of the word it will be incapable of understanding what I'm trying to type, whereas if I get a letter wrong somewhere in the middle it'll be fine. another problem I have is that sometimes when sending an sms the cursor will magically jump to the top of the text and I will unwittingly start typing over the start of my initial sentence. Also if I go to delete a number of letters often the keyboard will have a fit and start throwing letters and paragraphs everywhere. I accept that this is probably my finger not being 100 percent accurate but surely it is also a sign that the keyboard is just TOO SENSITIVE, even with the patch installed. I never had this problem on the Hero, nor the iPhone - both of which have vastly smaller screens.
lastly i'd like that t9 button moved as its just TOO easy to catch without realising.
I accept that some people on here don't seem to have any problem, but perhaps you guys are too forgiving, and sometimes it takes a bit of a whine and moan to get things fixed. Like I said, I'm very familiar with onscreen keyboards and accept that there is a certain learning curve to all of them, but after nearly two months with a HD2 I'm starting to believe that this one is very flawed: given the massive screen real estate of the hd2 I believe there is no excuse for a flawed onscreen keyboard. remember, this is a CRUCIAL part of a device with no hardware input facility, and we should not (in my opinion) have to buy third party software to get an acceptable basic user experience on a handset built as a thoroughly commercial mass-media device.
Thats my two cents.
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Thats my two cents.
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I agree with both of those cents fully
Also with regards to the post a few posts up, I presume that the person who spent $1000 on a phone lives in America where a HD2 would be hard to come buy as its not actually out there yet? You can't really blame him for buying it without testing it, especially with all the rave reviews on hundreds of sites, none of which seem to mention the flaws such as the keyboard and terrible (seriously terrible) sms sending issue.
Actually I also think HTC keyboard is not very good. I will not recommend anybody to use it. Anyway different people have different experience.
If you don't like Swype, you can try Finger Keyboard I think it's better than the HTC Keyboard.
I also have problems with my keyboard but I suspect a hardware fault and I am going to return my phone.
When I type it sometimes selects (multiple) letters on the other side of the keyboard or around the key i pressed. It usually comes in "bursts"; sometimes its nearly impossible to typ. Nearly threw the thing out of a window. Its a good phone but my keyboard is ruining the whole thing. Also (thats more rare) it can begin typing on its own, selecting or opening programs, switching tabs without me touching the screen! I waited for a new ROM and tried various tweaks but it doesn't get any better
I got a bit suckered by all the good reviews for this phone on so many websites and bought it yesterday. I've had a long time [misplaced] affection for windows phones. I say misplaced because every single model I've owned has let me down.
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice.
why is this stuff so difficult for windows mobile phones? why does the phone not go into landscape mode for EVERY application? why is that so difficult to implement? Why did HTC not put a bloody switch for landscape mode? you have a wide screen which would make an onscreen keyborad far more friendly yet you're still stuck trying to hit the 'sweet spot' on a portrait-mode keyboard!??! Not only are you stuck in portait mode but you no longer have a stylus to help you hit those keys!
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
thanks!
Install BSB Tweaks this allows landscape for any appplication
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
I tried but didn't seem to work for me. maybe i was doing something wrong?
i enabled the tickbox for IE and after the soft reset i tried running it but it did nothing when i rotated the screen. Am I missing something here?
try using Gyrator .. It works on every application
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can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
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I've just made an app that does just that. Have a look at PLToggle in my sig.
Calm down mate, trust me, windows mobile is by far the best OS out there for mobiles. The only reason everyone prefers the iphone is because of its usability, apart from that theres not much you can do but 'get an app for that', however thanks to this forum, you can do almost anything with a windows mobile device, especially one as powerful as the leo. You just need to get used to it, if sense is bugging you, get spb shell or another ui. And of course theres gonna be loads of problems with it, its pretty new, but its good points strongly outway its bad points (oh and might I add, you'll be getting all your tech support from this site, not htc, trust me), so just give it some time and you'll realise, after 'making it yours' how awesome a phone it is.
If the keyboard isnt doing it for you, download a new one! (thats the great thing about winmo) the two popular ones at the moment are swype ( a completely different style of keyboard) or finger keyboard. I personally like the one htc supply you with, heres a tweak taken from this thread which will lower the sensitivy of the screen which makes typing much easier. Alternatively, bsb tweaks can do this all for you from its menu.
Oh and about the rotate thing, on xanny tech's pandora rom, he has a little execuatable file in the start menu with rotates everything, and its mapped to a long press of the send key, so thats pretty useful, im not running his rom anymore but if you know anything about flashing, flash his first, its very good indeed and has lots of tweaks and useful stuff preinstalled.
Hope that helps a little, if not just ask
thanks for your help mate. having bought into a 24 month contract I'm pretty much stuck with getting to learn the phone whether i like it or not.
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thanks for your help mate. having bought into a 24 month contract I'm pretty much stuck with getting to learn the phone whether i like it or not.
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I agree with [★]. Once you know it better, you'll get to love it. There's so much under the hood of this thing that yes, you'll find a few things that you don't like, but they'll be outweighed by the things that you do
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The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice
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You, Sir, need to check out my thread, which would surely have come up if you had used the search function. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5197442 Windows Live/Hotmail etc seem to only take 16 characters. Anything after that is ignored. But the Windows Live application on mobile accepts more than 16 and will try and authenticate with everything you type in. 20 character password will not work. Reduce your pass to 16 characters or less and it should work. Post back in this thread to let me know if this sorts your issue out.
If it's a keyboard you're after then try Swype. Have a search for it. I too had a lot of sensitivity problems with the keyboard and it would take ages to type a simple email. Swype solved that. It's a lot less sensitive than the native keyboard and I used SIP to make it my default. In terms of landscape mode, try using Opera instead of IE (although Opera lacks flash). BSB Tweaks will handle the rest although I don't use it myself.
Trust me, stick with the phone and, with a few tweaks to have it running how you like it, you won't look back!
Just return the darn phone, smack it to the floor and trample it good, or learn to use it since you've bought it. Please save yourself over a high blood pressure leading to a stroke, my friend. It's only a phone.. (but then there's always iPhones for usability's sake, whatever it means)
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The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
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Ok, you need to calm down a tad. Ok, the phone is not perfect. However, there is endless configurability for the phone. The best thing you could ever have done was to come to this site where there is a tweak for almost anything.
Sit down, fasten your seatbelt and take a look around. You need an open mind. The HD2 is no iphone. It's the iphone killer. Just needs a little tweaking that's all.
Alternatively, you could ditch it and join the bandwagon, I mean iphone!
Try Swype, best KB I hve used on a phone, my mate with an Iphone thought it was great and was going to look for it for the Iphone, once tweaked the HD2 is the best mob by far!
I was doubtful when I first had it like you say I thought I should have gone for the Iphone but now I am so happy with it
Windows is rubbish because of the HTC keyboard?? Ok...
Isnt the whole ADVANTAGE of winmo that if you dont like something you can change it?
The advantage of WinMo is the tweaking and Office Mobile My wife had a HTC Hero for 2 months and at the end she begged me to get her a new Windows Phone because the freaking Android won't open rich text format files (unfortunately in her job she is obliged to use rtf as standart file format) without great hassle even with all possible office replacements I cound find on the net. Not to speak of that, that even the enhanced HTC mail client for Android can't open messages that are sent from mail.bg (a very popular bulgarian web mail service). That was the end for Android
Hotmail mail on the HD1 was a pain, same on the HD2. Gmail is working perfectly though which is very annoying when like me, you use Hotmail on your desktop to access your Gmail emails...
aloms said:
I got a bit suckered by all the good reviews for this phone on so many websites and bought it yesterday. I've had a long time [misplaced] affection for windows phones. I say misplaced because every single model I've owned has let me down.
The sense interface is great. Windows is not. I've just made 16 attempts at trying to login to windows live, struggling each time to input a 20 char secure password on the dinky keyboard and when i finally got the password right, i succeeded in invoking the 'too many failed logins' mode of windows live. Nice.
why is this stuff so difficult for windows mobile phones? why does the phone not go into landscape mode for EVERY application? why is that so difficult to implement? Why did HTC not put a bloody switch for landscape mode? you have a wide screen which would make an onscreen keyborad far more friendly yet you're still stuck trying to hit the 'sweet spot' on a portrait-mode keyboard!??! Not only are you stuck in portait mode but you no longer have a stylus to help you hit those keys!
The initial WOW factor has disappeared for me and I've only had the phone for a day!
can someone help me with some tips on landscape mode? is there some way i can map one of the hard keys to be a landscape mode switch? or some software that does something similar?
thanks!
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First of all get rid of that IDIOTIC iPhone imitation keyboard and replace it with the divine fingerkeyboard from xda.
And then deactivate the utterly unpredictive xt9 "predictive" (more like vindictive) text input.
I did these steps and now I can FINALLY type.
An $800 phone and it takes a donationware sw keyboard to make it usable
Aloms - I had the same problem with my Ipod Touch in the beginning. Don't worry, you will get use to it. BTW HD2 keyboard is better especially in landscape
I will join this thread with my three questions.
I have converted to the dark side and bought iPhone 3GS after having gone through a lot of phones and OSes. I have given up on WinMo (using HTC Pro) basically because of 3 issues:
1. Phone app in the sense of its responsiveness. I mean, someone is calling - first 2 seconds the hardware buttons light up, next 2 seconds the phone starts to vibrate, next 2 seconds there is a sound. Is it happening on the HD2 too? How responsive is it? Plus does it have a good gsm reception? With my HTC Pro I had to keep on testing different radio roms and have not been satisfied ever...
2. When you use HD2 say 4-5 days or longer, does it slow down over time. I mean especially when you use contacts with 1000 entries etc, or is it instant?
3. On a brand new HD2 just charged, when you load in your 1000 contacts, does it have an instant search of a contact in the contacts app? Or an email address in the "To" section when you want to write an email?
Frankly speaking, HD2 looks very tempting, but I am afraid mainly of the 3 above areas and am thinking to wait for Windows 7 or something?
PS. HTC Pro is still with me, but in the drawer...
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Hotmail mail on the HD1 was a pain, same on the HD2.
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I've had a Diamond, a HD, and now a HD2 and I can say with 100% confidence that I never had 1 single problem with Hotmail. I've seen a very small number of users on here with issues and every single one of them has turned out to be user error.
I suggest the same in this instance as it works flawlessly when set up correctly, which 99.9% of users do.