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Difference from .exe installation and .cab ...

Hi guys,
I think I don't understand the difference between the desktop (.exe) installation and the .cab installation for a ppc programs....
Is there a possibility to install the program in a dir. of the SD? For example, I'd like to create a dir called "Program files" in the SD.
P.S: How can I change the default location for programs installation from device memeory to SD?

Use cabinst (search on google) to install cabs from PPC to different folders - essential tool!
You need registry tweaks to change the default folder, although this isn't really advisable. See Tweaks2k (i think) for this. But with cabinst, not required!
V

Thanks!
If I understand well... I have to install at first cabinstl on my Jam and after that I must use .cab installation!!? (I have to copy cab file in to particolar path of SD or?)
Using .exe install is not possible?

The .exes you download from sites wil (almost always) be for installation on the PC. You double click that, that'll load up activesync and install that way.
The other way is to copy the .cab to your pocketpc and double click. That will install, but gives little control over custom folders to install to and will also delete the .cab after install.
However, after installing cabinst you can double click on .cabs on the PPC and install anywhere.
V

Yeah! With cabinst I can instll app on my own "Program Files" dir in SD...
That's nice but I can't find all the app I have to install in CAB format so... my question is if is there any method to put the files on a specific dir from .exe installation..
Many thanks guys!

if you've got the .exe for the pc, double click it WITHOUT your pda connected. Activesync will load up and you'll get the Add/remove programs screen, saying the program will be installed next time you connect your pda.
Then, on your pc, you have to hunt around for the cab.
I use a program called filetracer to find files, but generally try looking in (I think, I'm not in front of my pc right now) C:\program files\Microsoft active sync\ (or something like that). There you should find folders, eg
\spb\Weather Panel (that's not a real example!).
Dig through there, and you should find eg
Arm_VJStuff.cab.
This is the file you need.
Sometimes you'll get a bunch of numbered files. eg If you see one like
2577_vjstuff.cab amongst other numbered files, the 2577 is the one you want (2577 refers to ARM, the chip in your PDA).
Copy that cab file to your desktop or wherever you want to store it, and copy a copy to your PDA. When you connect up your PDA activesync will ask if you want to install the installation you aborted earlier. Just cancel it.
From there, just install on your PDA with cabinst!
Sounds complicated, but you'll get the hang of it very quickly!
I keep all of my cabs in a folder for installation from hardreset very quickly.
V

Sounds good!!! :wink:
Thanks!

Change Installation Directory

Hi,
i want to install the programs to a directory on the mmc card.
But if i do so, it installs in the root.
Now, thats not looking nice, and its hard to find anything there then.
I want create a directory for games and programms on the card.
How can i do that?
I can only choose between, Memory Card, Storage and Main Memory.
And that sucks!

Maybe u can user WinCE CAB Manager and edit the *.cab installation directory to any directory u prefer.

You can use the freeware CabInstall and install program directly from the SD.

Yes, but on the on hand this would be a lot of work, changing every single files directory in the cab and on the other hand it wouldn´t work out with Progs, that have an exe intallation, like the game AoE.
Thos Progs, first install on the PC and then on the PPC, and there are no editable CABs at all.
I thougt about changing the installation interface inactive sync , but i´m not a coder.
But maybe, there is somebody out there, who had the same idea like me and realised it already.

The Best solution ever: have a look at the attached files, open the TXT file first (the instructions)
You will not need any additional Software (except e Regestry editor like PHM Regedit), just follow the instructions and use the attached files.
Workes great I am having this now for 4 months!

if you install the programmes to the SD/MMC card, and they make their own folder, put the SD/MM card into a card reader on the pc and select the entire folder as hidden. this means that the programme still works, but does not show up when you explore the card. this does not work if u are using your phone as a card reader.

Sorry DerliebeWolf, The BEST solution is the follow (Tested on WM2003Se):
- Download a registry editor 4 Ur PPC
- Open AskDir_ON.reg with the program
- Reset your PPC
manually:
- Go to \HKLM\SOFTWARE\Apps\Microsoft Application Installer\fAskDest
- Change DWORD value (dec) from 0 to 1
- Reset your PPC
If you install a cab file or an exe file from the pc (that copy the cab into your ppc and then execute it), Windows Mobile will ask you in wich folder you want to install the sw.
Note that you can have problems with some applications (because they're not installed in their own directory)

Check out Nonentity's File System Tweak http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...order=asc&highlight=file+system+tweak&start=0

Cabinstaller is the best and easy software i could recommend for this. Run the cab installer software once and set it to run for all installations, the whenever u try to install a cab file, it will prompt you for the path of installation. It also has an option to disable deleting of cab file after installation. Do you want anything more than this? and to the max, it is free ware! Its easy to get, if you can't find,I have it in my site' software section. www.cartystudios.com

oh yes, i've forget that cabinstall associes .cab files to it (and then, when you execute an exe from the pc, in the ppc will be opened always with cabinstall in auto)
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installing tcmp4 on XDA IIi

Hello
I was trying to install tcmp4 on an XDA IIi, i downloaded tcmp4 onto the storage stick of XDA IIi, and clicked on the tcmp4, i get the message
'tcmp4' is not a valid Pocket PC application
i am sure i downloaded tcmp4 onto my XDA Exec in a similar way.
can you guys help me?

hello again
i figured out what to do, rather i remembered what i had done with my xda exec.
it is just the same procedure, get the cabinst file, and use it to install the cab file for the arm version

dear XDA_Guy
installing any application in Pocket PC can be either
1) exeutable file : which extention is .exe
these files (mostly and I say mostly) installable via the PC using ActiveSync program installed.
2) .cab file and these file shall be copied directly to the pocket PC and installed by clicking on them
Most program supplier (or programmers) produced the 2 vesrion of there programs i.e. in Cab and Exe format
the good thing with the cab version that you can keep in the SD card and everytime your hard-reset ( or format ) your XDA your can easly restore the programs from the SD (cab file ) without a computer.
IMPORTANT NOTE : about cab file ... most pocket pc or Windows CE deletes the cab file automatically after installing them.
to prevent this you need to install other cab installation utility / program.
personally I use the attached program. its exe file but just copy it and place it in your my documents or any other location . ( this is exe file but its a pocket pc exe file not PC )

dear XDA_Guy
installing any application in Pocket PC can be either
1) exeutable file : which extention is .exe
these files (mostly and I say mostly) installable via the PC using ActiveSync program installed.
2) .cab file and these file shall be copied directly to the pocket PC and installed by clicking on them
Most program supplier (or programmers) produced the 2 vesrion of there programs i.e. in Cab and Exe format
the good thing with the cab version that you can keep in the SD card and everytime your hard-reset ( or format ) your XDA your can easly restore the programs from the SD (cab file ) without a computer.
IMPORTANT NOTE : about cab file ... most pocket pc or Windows CE deletes the cab file automatically after installing them.
to prevent this you need to install other cab installation utility / program.
personally I use the attached program. its exe file but just copy it and place it in your my documents or any other location . ( this is exe file but its a pocket pc exe file not PC )

thanks for the reply nasoor
you mean that the cab file version are meant to be installed on sd cards
and the exe version is meant to be installed on the device itself by clicking on the exe while the exe is on the pc?
how do i use the active sync program to install an .exe file? i copied the .exe file to my sd card and accessed it through activesync(explorer) however by only clicking on the file, it only gives me the properties

yes ,
the cab files should be copied either to you SD card or to the Pocket PC using the activesync explorer.
the EXE file should be run directly from the PC not the XDA. the steps are :
1- Put your XDA in the cardle ( holder) which is connected to the USB.
2- wait for the syncronization process to finish
3- go to the EXE file for TCPMP program in your Desktop Computer
4- Run the file and follow the instructions to be installed
5- after finishing you will see your XDA doing some progress and copying
6- You are done enjoy
regarding the cabinstall_en.exe file for cab installation , even this file is an exe file but as I told you before you can just copy it to your SD card and run in the Pocket PC not the Desktop because this is a Mobile EXE file.
I hope you are fine now ..

thanks for the reply nasoor
is there any way to know if a a file is a mobile exe file or is a pc exe file?

actually , without a programmed tool or external tool you can not
I mean , the only way - as I think - is by try executing the file , if the file fails to run with an error messaage says ' The file is not a valid 32 bit application ' then it means that this is for Pocket PC
otherwise , it will run , then it should be ment for the Desktop or Windows XP /ME application

thanks for the reply nasoor
pocket pc's are 32 bit applications?

Installing separate files...

Hi there, I'm having trouble installing programs that seem to come in loads of separate files. One of them is an XML file and the rest seem to be unopenable/unrecognisable by windows.
Can anyone give me advice on how to install these onto my MPV3100. I've search for Install help but there doesn't seem to be anything specific on how to do it.
Thanks.

wingzero124 said:
Hi there, I'm having trouble installing programs that seem to come in loads of separate files. One of them is an XML file and the rest seem to be unopenable/unrecognisable by windows.
Can anyone give me advice on how to install these onto my MPV3100. I've search for Install help but there doesn't seem to be anything specific on how to do it.
Thanks.
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I can't be sure but it sounds like you have decompressed a .cab file on your PC before trying to place it on your device. If so that's not the way to do it.
There are in general threetypes of programme/files you can download for WM5
1. ,cab files
2. .exe files
3. .zip files
.cab files you place directly on the device by connecting via active sync using the Explore button on the PC active sync screen. If you have a storage card inserted navigate to that and drop them in there. To run a Cab file just click on it on your device.
.exe files in the main you run on your PC whilst connected via active sync. The programme will automatically instal the programme on the device. Keep an eye on the device there maybe some taps you have to make.
.Zip files in general you extract these on the PC and then you'll see if they are .cabs or .exes and then treat them as above.
Most programmes will then show up under the Start>Programmes listing on the device and you run them from there. Some though may not especially if you chose to install them to storage card. In which case use file explorer programme to navigate to them.
Ultimately you'll want a programme that allows you to create short cuts to them probably on the desktop screen.
Hope this helps
Mike

storage card loading

i have an 8525 and a 1gig card
how do i put programs on it and use it as a back up with resco

claus2488 said:
i have an 8525 and a 1gig card
how do i put programs on it and use it as a back up with resco
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First may I suggest you look in the WiKi there's a link to it at top of page. When there look for the Hermes section and then the FAQs and beginners sections.
To put programmes on card link your device to PC and Active sync will start.
Find programmes/applications on the net download them to the PC.
Rgwy normally come in to formats CAB or EXE files they may also be zipped.
If I get a choice I choose the Cab file because on the Active sync screen there's an Explore button which I use to go to the storage card and copy across my downloaded CAB file. I then use file explorer or the like on my device to go to the CAB file and tap it to install it. Do Not Open Cab files on the PC first.
EXE files you open on the PC and they will be installed by active sync automatically.
There are loads of freeware applications and quite a few pay ones that are worth getting.
Have fun
EDIT: to backup to storage card there will be an option to choose location in your bacup programme.
Mike