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UPDATED!!! iPhone-like Music Player: Lumen. [alpha]

PLEASE READ THIS!!
Hi.. just to announce, that I'm making serious efforts to make the iPhone-like musicplaying capability on a Windows Mobile device, I show you now what I have been cooking for a while now..
This is only a proof of concept thing. It won't play any music now. It just shows the possibilities.
I was quite busy in the summer-time, so I had no or little time to develop, but it's going to change.
Anyway, a few things you should know:
- only 240*320 portrait mode (for now)
- .Net Compact Framework is required.
- it's filled with some random data.
- there is a syncing software on the desktop-side, which transfers a playlist from iTunes (not included in this release)
- without cleartype enabled, it's ugly.
- again, it won't play music now!
PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU SOFTRESET YOUR DEVICE AFTER INSTALLING.
FAQ
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Q: Will it have a coverflow-ish cool feature?
A: Yes, there will be.
Q: Will it support landscape mode only screens?
A: Well, landscape mode will be used for the coverflow-ish view. I'm still considerind this.
Q: Will it support smartphones?
A: I hope so.
Q: Will it sync automatically with my computer?
A: Of course it will!
Q: Yeah, but how?
A: You have to select an iTunes playlist then decide whether use the activeSync connection (more convienient but slower) or select a drive, and let the Bridge program on your computer do the rest (less convienient, faster)
Q: Wait, you have to have iTunes to use with this thing?
A: Currently, yes. iTunes offers a great API to work with, so it's very efficient to use. Also, in iTunes, most people has georgeous album art in tracks, and in Lumen, album artwork uses a lot of screen real estate, making it look insanely great. In the future, I'll consider fetching MP3 ID3 data, and so.
To keep yourself up-to-date:
www.petervajda.com/Lumen
Download it from here:
www.petervajda.com/Lumen/Lumen-current.php

is there a video / other for preview?
Without seeing something I don´t want to install.

Same here
Please post some screenshots, either here or on your site (http://www.petervajda.com/Lumen/index.html)
Thanks

I'm quite busy now, but soon, I'll post some screenshots.

I have installed it, wow!!! its awesome looking Its going to replace my
other players when you got it Finished. keep it up

yeah, it sounds great, I like it, pls keep it moving

snotboy32 said:
I have installed it, wow!!! its awesome looking Its going to replace my
other players when you got it Finished. keep it up
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Post screenshots pls.

Things I'd like to see with this application (in comparsion with Audio Manager):
1. Integrate with HTC Home music tab - so that it can be controlled via that tab.
2. Possible to turn-off phone/screen while the music keeps on playing (to conserve battery)
3. Lists/plays tracks according to track numbers, not alphabetically (Audio Manager has this problem)
4. Library option - by albums, artisits, genre , etc.
5. .ogg support.
Possible?

EazyVG said:
Things I'd like to see with this application (in comparsion with Audio Manager):
1. Integrate with HTC Home music tab - so that it can be controlled via that tab.
2. Possible to turn-off phone/screen while the music keeps on playing (to conserve battery)
3. Lists/plays tracks according to track numbers, not alphabetically (Audio Manager has this problem)
4. Library option - by albums, artisits, genre , etc.
5. .ogg support.
Possible?
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1. I don't know "HTC Home music tab" and I don't know how to communicate with it, but I'll take a look.
2. It's already implemented in a previous unpublished version.
3. If you go to an artist, and select an album, it'll show it by track numbers if it's given. Any "view" that contains songs from a single album uses this mode.
4. I think it's already in.
5. Well.. i'm using Windows Media Player component, so it plays it if your device already supports it. (I'm looking for a better audio playing solution) So in theory, it can work.

stephano nice works...!
Hope nice programs in the future from u..!

Just tried it out. Nice and cool.
Looking forward to your release. Good job bro!

wow
the second iPhone Media player in two days? I'm really impressed.
Will test soon
EDIT: Great concept, but try to speed it up. Oh, and mine does not play any music. Please fix it
mindless ramblings aside, this looks neat. You made it on to my 'watch-for-further-developments' list.

What to say.... WOW!
Scrolling smoothness is really impressive I must say. Some other developers playing around with iPhone like applications should implement your scrolling routine as it is almost perfect.
I had many problems with selections at beginning, until I realized that, differently from other apps, I had to double-tap , so ppl please DOUBLE TAP'em :-D
You could join efforts with the other guy messing with an iPhone like mediaplayer (His already playing trough WMP features), but I think those 2 are developed in different ways.
Hope anyway to hear news from you soon

I'd love to see what this app looks like, but I Can't since I don't have a WM5 or 6 device. My player and this, are coded in two very different ways, so it would be hard to sort of combine the two, or use his scrolling routine, although from the sounds of it...I'd LOVE TO! I'll be keeping my eyes here though...

In truth I would like to see other developers using YOUR scrolling routine. I truly love it!
Have a nice evening.

spicchio72 said:
In truth I would like to see other developers using YOUR scrolling routine. I truly love it!
Have a nice evening.
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WOW! Thanks!! Really!
Anyway, you don't have to double-tap.. It goes into things with one tap, but I'm working on to make the app realize it much faster. Since it has to mess with databases, then draw the list, it isn't as easy, as you may think.

Merlin_reloaded said:
Oh, and mine does not play any music. Please fix it
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Would you mind reading the first post? Pretty please

Hey great app, this is the kinda thing i've been looking for, anyways once you get everything working properly, i have a suggestion for a cool feature, maybe once ur in the player u could have a coverflow type thing where u can flick thru album covers to select songs, srry if i'm asking for too much too soon but i can't contain myself when something this cool comes up.

ksjulsen said:
Hey great app, this is the kinda thing i've been looking for, anyways once you get everything working properly, i have a suggestion for a cool feature, maybe once ur in the player u could have a coverflow type thing where u can flick thru album covers to select songs, srry if i'm asking for too much too soon but i can't contain myself when something this cool comes up.
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Cool down buddy Your wish will come true. I have a proof-of-concept app built, and it performs quite well. Keep watching this space.

ksjulsen said:
Hey great app, this is the kinda thing i've been looking for, anyways once you get everything working properly, i have a suggestion for a cool feature, maybe once ur in the player u could have a coverflow type thing where u can flick thru album covers to select songs, srry if i'm asking for too much too soon but i can't contain myself when something this cool comes up.
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You mean like what I've implemented so far?

Should I apply the HTC ROM?

Folks, I am an old ROM for my UK purchased HD2 1.48.405.2
Radio version 2.05.51.05_2
I have quite a few registry tweaks and cab files installed. I also have a few extra programs loaded though most are installed on my SD card.
I am considering the ROM update below mainly because the only issue I have is with the media player not being able to move between albums when in portrait mode and I wondered whether this fixed that issue (this ROM update seems to suggest it "might") but it may only apply to play lists!?
I am otherwise happy with my HD2 and everything works (no SMS issues, no pink camera shots etc). I have a little delay on the keyboard, especially when tapping the SMS area but it isn’t an issue for me.
My question is, does this ROM fix the problem with moving between albums in portrait mode. If it does I am happy to install this and go through the pain of re-applying all my changes MANUALLY!. If not then I probably won’t bother as I am happy with the performance of my HD2 (unless someone tells me that there are some “other” benefits).
What’s the general consensus?
ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2
Release Date: 2009-12-09
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=297&cat=2&dl_id=804
1.Flipping back and forth between songs is easier than ever. Whether you are listening to a defined playlist, or letting your phone shuffle your songs for you, your music will play continuously and fluidly.

In portrait mode there is no switching between albums, just in landscape... is that what you mean? In Portrait you can just skip song by song...
For the mediaplayer not being able to skip albums in LANDSCAPE one of you tweaks might be responsible for this. The thing HTC fixed in this update concerning the musicplayer was about songs not stuttering anymore while playing.

Thanks for the reply. The issue is the inability to skip albums in portrait (not landscape) mode. As I don't get any stuttering issues and there seems to be little (if any) other benefits to the ROM update I just won't bother.

I'd still say it's worth upgrading to the latest ROMs - battery life is improved with the newer radio so give it a go...

alecs said:
Thanks for the reply. The issue is the inability to skip albums in portrait (not landscape) mode. As I don't get any stuttering issues and there seems to be little (if any) other benefits to the ROM update I just won't bother.
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as mentioned in post 2, you can't skip albums In portrait.when you flick up and down in portrait it only skips through whatever tracks are in the "now playing" play list.to change albums without going to landscape you click library and choose the albums tab.

samsamuel said:
as mentioned in post 2, you can't skip albums In portrait.when you flick up and down in portrait it only skips through whatever tracks are in the "now playing" play list.to change albums without going to landscape you click library and choose the albums tab.
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Thats exactly what i meant. That is what the landscape mode is for in the musictab --> to switch whole albums. The portrait mode ONLY ALLOWS you to skip single tracks, there is just no album function/skipping in portrait
Greets

I was in the same position as you two weeks ago - nothing too wrong with my old stock ROM (which was actually 1.43!), and I had taken a lot of time installing cabs, tweaking the registry etc...
BUT, 1.66 Vodafone ROM makes quite a difference to the general feeling of the phone (it feels smoother, quicker and more stable) and I have noticed absolutely nothing wrong with it at all.
Hope this helps with your decision!

Thanks folks. I think I will upgrade. There is just one tweak that I can't locate that I hce applied and wondered whether anyone knows where ig is. i have changed a registry location that changes the left soft button from "phone" to "contacts" which is very useful

Some froyo findings (BUGS / ISSUES ETC.)

looks like no FM radio for us for now..
multi-touch still snaps axis (obvious hw fault), but i can no longer get it to swap axis, can anyone confirm ?
flash works ok~, flash elements seem to lag behind when scrolling/panning the screen (kinda like they are overlapped, not really "embedded" in the render cycle.
is the launcher smoother or is it placebo ? either way launcher PRO is much faster anyway.
-- ( LauncherPRO works fine with FROYO still blazing flast, but the google search widget just gave me a crash after "acting up", never cared for it anyway )
new taskswitcher GUI, now says "recent apps", and fades out the background, displays more than the default 6 apps.
gallery is MUCH MUCH faster at loading photos ( i have around 200, and it just swept thru those thumbnails), ZOOMing in has better resolution, still not 100% quality.
new gallery PINCH-to-peek works great, looks very animatish too
another placebo to check, WiFi seems better, i just connected to a router that usually disconnects me allot because its too far, works ok atm, 1 bar.
power control widget now allows switching to auto-brightness (thx mortzz)
multi-calls from same person now grouped in contact list/recent calls
power button ends call
come on, share your findings

the stock messaging app is quite different. shows pictures of the contacts for each message. and... its white.

SabrWolf said:
* looks like no FM radio for us for now..
* multi-touch still snaps axis (obvious hw fault), but i can no longer get it to swap axis, can anyone confirm ?
* flash works ok~, flash elements seem to lag behind when scrolling/panning the screen (kinda like they are overlapped, not really "embedded" in the render cycle.
* is the launcher smoother or is it placebo ? either way launcher PRO is much faster anyway.
* new taskswitcher GUI, now says "recent apps", and a complete fade , i dont like the fade, but i like the fact there are more apps than the eclair 6.
* gallery is MUCH MUCH faster at loading photos ( i have around 200, and it just swept thru those thumbnails), also ZOOM's to FULL resolution now, (finally!.. sheesh)
come on, share
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is there a new radio?
4.06?
and the music player is there a new interface?

So LauncherPro does work with 2.2, no problems? I was curious of this.

mgear356 said:
is there a new radio?
4.06?
and the music player is there a new interface?
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4.06.00.12_7
same music interface

radio version = 4.06.00.12_7
yes, newer version.. will take a while for me to notice the diffrence

fender2k1 said:
4.06.00.12_7
same music interface
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omg new radio!
hmm it';s weird that in google's i/O there was a new music interface..

music player still the same

Trackball colors ?
Did they implement pinch peek into Gallery ?

xManMythLegend said:
Trackball colors ?
Did they implement pinch peek into Gallery ?
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can't see a way to change trackball colors.
maybe its possible to create an app now that can do this without root?

pinch-to-peek works, updated the main post, checking trackball colors atm

xManMythLegend said:
Did they implement pinch peek into Gallery ?
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seems like it.

the gmail app seems a bit more polished.

Powerwidget now gives you the option to switch to auto brightness

fender2k1 said:
can't see a way to change trackball colors.
maybe its possible to create an app now that can do this without root?
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Based on previous mods all it should do is give apps like Missed Call , Missed Reminder , Gmail Notifier access to trackball.
I dont think youll be able to set them from base OS.

can anyone help me why my installation keeps getting aborted no matter what I do?

i found no way to set trackball notifications, looks like they left that for us developers/modders to tinker with.
perhaps a non-root trackball notifications app is possible with the new SDK

AbsoluteDesignz said:
can anyone help me why my installation keeps getting aborted no matter what I do?
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From my experience, you will need a ERE27 to update to froyo

Can anyone explain what pinch peek for gallery does?

Noticed that any pictures you posted on buzz will pull up in your gallery. I reformated my SD card trying to get the app to sd card thing working and since i don''t have photos (yet to move it back on there) i figured that cool feature out.
Looks like moving to the SD card is something that might need to be enabled by the apps.

Camera Not Working

Ok so we know, at least most of us know, that there are way too many bugs with this phone.
Here is an other one to add to the list:
The camera simply does not work when I need it to.
I press the physical "take photo" button on the side of the camera and then I see the image of the camera come up and it hangs there for about 45 seconds to 1 minute, sometimes longer, then it goes back to the default screen, not the camera menu.
I click on the camera icon on the touch screen and it shows the image of the camera then goes back to default screen, not the camera menu.
I go to windows, scroll down to camera click it it shows the camera image then back to default screen, not the camera menu.
Basically I must reboot once maybe two times in order to actually use the camera, again waiting the 2-3 minutes each time I re-boot until the phone fully starts up.
Any suggestions?
x

same with me but with little luck, mine have pop up windows said 'there's an application runing, close before use camera'. ususally I close beejiveIM if I use it(still not close opera and resco explorer runing background) and the camera works.
my conclusion Beejive is crash with camera. so I use palringo, the camera doesnt show error message like that when I use palringo. but lately the camera shows error again with palringo, opera and resco explorer!
what an annoying and selfish camera!
any sugestion or cab-fix or some reg edit clue?

Its Media Player. exe not closing!
I was wondering when the first people come up with this problem! I found that this is (at least in my case!) the mediaPlayer.exe that is EATING UP all available (little that is!!!) RAM.
When I have a song play, perhaps a few minutes, nothing bad happens, after closing media player for good, still 80MB RAM left.
But, when I listen for a while to music (using media player NOT slide view!) then after half an hour or 1 hour, I have only 3-5MB left. Yes, 3 to 5 MB!!! In this case, even after closing for good media player, NO RAM is returned! I have only 3-5MB available RAM. And of course that is not enough to run the Camera!
Unless we find a program that can kill the mediaplayer.exe for good and that will indeed return that memory, we have no other option but a restart!

Camera Video Choppy too!
And now since I made a first video... or better tried to make it with this crappy phone/camera, I found that the recorded video is choppy, it seems to hang when the camera is moved or objects move.
Really bad. Anybody found a reg tweak to perhaps fix this or make it at least better? This is NO WAY 30fps, not even 20!

Memory manager
michaelthemage said:
Unless we find a program that can kill the mediaplayer.exe for good and that will indeed return that memory, we have no other option but a restart!
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Have you tried e.g. MemMaid from DinarSoft?
I have had trial version installed once, looked fine. But there seems to be u lot of similar tools. I just never needed any as badly as you do.

Well, actuall I think this is caused by Slide|View. Because I was fed up with this crap, I did a hard reset and stoped the custom install. I installed all I wanted/needed Manually!
And of course I did NOT install TileWave, SlideView and any other crap panel, exept the Growing Panel (just to brag a little ;-)
Now, media player does not take even 10MB and all is well. While playing music I can make pictues even.
So far all is well. The only thing bothering me now is, every other day a message pops up either wanting to send a SMS to register my phone, or a customer survey from microsucks.
If anybody knows HOW to stop it without actually doing it, please let us know.

michaelthemage said:
Well, actuall I think this is caused by Slide|View. Because I was fed up with this crap, I did a hard reset and stoped the custom install. I installed all I wanted/needed Manually!
And of course I did NOT install TileWave, SlideView and any other crap panel, exept the Growing Panel (just to brag a little ;-)
Now, media player does not take even 10MB and all is well. While playing music I can make pictues even.
So far all is well. The only thing bothering me now is, every other day a message pops up either wanting to send a SMS to register my phone, or a customer survey from microsucks.
If anybody knows HOW to stop it without actually doing it, please let us know.
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That's strange because I think it's actually Media Player itself.
Since latest FW I use TileWave and Slide View, uninstalled the rest of the flashy panels (City, Growing, SPB) and never had any problem with running camera.
I listen to alot of music but always from SlideView, no RAM problems here....
BTW if you want to kill any process, SKTools does it.

michaelthemage said:
Well, actuall I think this is caused by Slide|View. Because I was fed up with this crap, I did a hard reset and stoped the custom install. I installed all I wanted/needed Manually!
And of course I did NOT install TileWave, SlideView and any other crap panel, exept the Growing Panel (just to brag a little ;-)
Now, media player does not take even 10MB and all is well. While playing music I can make pictues even.
So far all is well. The only thing bothering me now is, every other day a message pops up either wanting to send a SMS to register my phone, or a customer survey from microsucks.
If anybody knows HOW to stop it without actually doing it, please let us know.
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Just wanted to share my experience on this: I remember choosing cancel and it would stop. Did you press any hardware buttons instead or the X button on the window?

Camera did not start.... again!
Well, I found the registry setting for these crappy sms sending msgs. Now its gone!
BUT, today I still had 110MB left and the camera did the 'cannot start' crap. Just did not start, whatever I did.
Had to restart the entire phone in order to get it startup again. So I guess it is not the memory shrotage that seemed to have caused it before.

Jelly Bean Issues (Please Stick)

So Far I Have Found
- Default Apps Will Not Stick
- Custom Ringtones Do Not Stick
Anybody found anything else?

I have no problems with them, nore do I have it on my s3, but both of those are reported by others on the s3 too (but not by too many people).
I imagine its a mixture of something you ahve installed, or the way your setting them that differs from people like myself who are having no issues at all.

first thing i noticed.
opening browser and looking at a webpage using video (HTML5) and close it. the audio from the video continue in the background although all windows are closed, and only way to kill it is closing wifi.
but maybe its just a onetimer.

Lennyuk said:
I have no problems with them, nore do I have it on my s3, but both of those are reported by others on the s3 too (but not by too many people).
I imagine its a mixture of something you ahve installed, or the way your setting them that differs from people like myself who are having no issues at all.
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Not out to find fault with the devices , i love it , but these things should work ideally ie. replacing existing ringtones on /system/media, but it doesnt

1-Quick controls on the Browser are not precise and the X button in it either missing or not working properly.,the one on my Galaxi Tab 10.1 are much better.
2-The rebranded stock Swype Keyboard is not good.on my original Mote worked great,I use Swype all the time.
3-On the Lock Screen cant change the location of the Clock while with ICS it was possible,I preffer the clock on the bottom of the lock screen since pulling it slightly from the Napa cover will reveale the time.
4-The music sound with the Earphone is very low and the Equalizer doesnt help at all to raise the volume as it was the case with N1.
5-Both in the Gallery or the Camera app every time touching the picture a manue of picture thumbnales appear at the buttom blocking the view which is very annoying due to limited screen size.
6-Tap and Rotate the Lock Screen to open the Camera application is very buggy and doesnt work all the time.
7-Scrolling in the stock Weather App is instant without any transition or animation which sort of reminds me of my old HD2 Windows Mobile.
So far these..

I found that all my videos which were on the SD card was not being detected by the default video player unless i moved them to the Internals SD
Dont know if this is a fault with my Firmware or everyone

hagba said:
3-On the Lock Screen cant change the location of the Clock while with ICS it was possible,I preffer the clock on the bottom of the lock screen since pulling it slightly from the Napa cover will reveale the time.
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W H A T A portrait wall will look terrible then!