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Locking / S2U2 / Stand by questions

Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?

Doesn't pressing the "End call" button for 2-3 seconds also lock the phone?
Regards!

I do understand what you're saying. I figured out something really basic just the other day, that is if your phone is locked or in sleep mode just pull out your stylus and it'll unlock and wake up.
Just 1 movement.
Sorry if this is really common knowledge and you already know this but sometimes we overlook the more basic functions on such a complex device!!
Cheers
DB

Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.

jon- said:
Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.
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Yep i do this too.
Press the power button mate, and it will lock the phone
I like how the phone unlocks when you take the stylus out but i didnt like how it locks the phone when you put the stylus back in, so i removed that function using the options in gyrator

I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.

is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????

matou25 said:
I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.
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why my HD no "Phone Canvas"?

Jezwick said:
is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????
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I searched a long time for this, but I didn´t find a solution

Standby locking
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.

surfaczer said:
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.
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Have you tried HDTweak?

ScarySquirrel said:
Have you tried HDTweak?
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Please explain

device lock
gt112 said:
Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?
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Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon

JPW said:
Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon
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You're Irish too, I presume?
The other option is you attached a very small cab.

OOOPS forgot cab
have edited post now
Jon

Should the device lock when I put the stylus in? I get the impression from this thread that it should but mine doesn't?

Possible to wake up Touch HD from Standby witch wipe over Touchscreen ?

Hi!
Dont know if already somebody asked about that thing, waking up the HD by wiping over the Touchscreen?
Didnt find anything with the search option.
So......DEVS.......is it possible to do it?
I know many people think, its trash, because the HD would come out of standby in my pocket.......
Right!
My solution is to wipe from bottom to top or left to right to wake up........
So what do you think?
Usefull oder useless?
Guano

Personaly I'd rather know when it comes out of sleep by one click of the power button. Also, I like to clean my screen often. Can't do that if a certain swipe brings it awake.

Oh damn i forgot...............
So we have to include a "clean mode" into the settings menu.......
Maybe another solution could be to awake our HD by voice with a secret word?
The only thing I hate is to switch on the HD with the power Button......
Dont like that press feeling......same with vol - or +

it wouldn't really be sleeping if it reacted to swipes, would it?
also, would hate to think my ass could wake it up and dial someone, i'm the decision maker :/

Disabling the lockscreen after waking the phone up

Hi guys!
So I'll have to wait for my preordered HD2 untill 20th November here in Poland, but watching all the preview videos, a question arose in my head. I know the device isn't out yet, but its rom builds are already flying around, so maybe someone knows the answer. Will it be possible to disable showing of the lock screen after waking up the phone with the end call/power button and the device taking you immediately to the homescreen? I'm used to that on my TD2, and I think that using the phone this way is just much faster.

If i have undersood ur question correctly by completely disabling lock screen of ur future Leo, then yeah, thats possible. If u navigate through ur moving cursor to Settings, then Sound and Display and finally to Backlight options, there two options exist, when phone its on battery and/or External power, to either set the time limit to have the screen locked (and dim backlight of course) or to completely diselect it, which actually disables Leo to show and/or show lock screen.
Hope that clarification helped you

It sure did, thanks a lot I just hope that the buttons on the face of the HD2 will turn out to be as "shallow", flat and "stiff" as they look like in the vids, so that no accidental pressing of the end key while the device is in the pocket will be possible in practice

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It sure did, thanks a lot I just hope that the buttons on the face of the HD2 will turn out to be as "shallow", flat and "stiff" as they look like in the vids, so that no accidental pressing of the end key while the device is in the pocket will be possible in practice
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I did not think about the accidental pressing of END key before, but this will surely worry me, atleast I get the handset myself and test it in real-life...

Well even if any accidental cliks will be happening, then the lock screen will actually come in handy

well even if the buttons get pressed somehow, the screen won't react to pressure so only buttons will work if there's no lockscreen

You're right, good point hehe I guess all of us WM fans will have to get used to capacitive screens and their advantages/disadvantages

I think there will be 2 potential risks...
1. "Send" button is pressed accidentally more than once (last dialed number will be dialed)
2. Any keys get accidentally pressed continuously (device will remain on impacting battery life)
So yet a good screen locking solution will be recommended

3. "end call/power" button pressed and hold -> device turns off (at least I think so..or is there a "confirmation screen"??) -> you don't get any incoming calls/messages/etc at all =)
Btw, if you turn off the stuff as B3ler3fonte said, would there be any locking at all? So would touchscreen etc be allways "ready" and consuming battery?

In my Diamond2 (I dont use any lock screen or anything) when the screen is turned off and I press long the power button, the confirmation for powering off the device does in fact pop up, but the screen remains turned off, so its impossible to confirm the power off prompt (I see the prompt popped up when I press the pwr button once again to turn on the screen). So probably no threat from here. And even if the screen activates and the prompt for turning off the phone does come out, there's no way of confirming it in your pocket - thats the capacitive screen advantage. But the battery draining issues may occur at some scale... I guess we'll see how it all turns out in real life. The probably unavoidable problem will be if the end button would be possible to get pressed by accident - then we would be facing constant battery drainage with the lockscreen always appearing for no reason.

kabakara said:
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Btw, if you turn off the stuff as B3ler3fonte said, would there be any locking at all? So would touchscreen etc be allways "ready" and consuming battery?
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That could help but won't much, because(at least current models) they wake up upon any reminder, battery low, call, text, etc. Besides you will have to use both hands to turn phone on (the top button, unless you got ET fingers ) HD is tall...

Cannot see that menu item
B3ler3fonte said:
. If u navigate through ur moving cursor to Settings, then Sound and Display and finally to Backlight options, there two options exist, when phone its on battery and/or External power, to either set the time limit to have the screen locked (and dim backlight of course) or to completely diselect it, which actually disables Leo to show and/or show lock screen.
Hope that clarification helped you
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Sorry but there is no setting for lockscreen in this menu. There is only settings for the backlight in battery or charged mode.
There is no control for the lockscreen at all Still looking for a way to completely disable this damned lockscreen.

Agreed - even the entry in the Settings tab that claims to control the lockscreen seems to have no impact (I have mine set to 12 hours and it completely ignores that) and the standard registry hacks don't seem to have any effect.
This is a real puzzler!

jgal said:
Hi guys!
So I'll have to wait for my preordered HD2 untill 20th November here in Poland, but watching all the preview videos, a question arose in my head. I know the device isn't out yet, but its rom builds are already flying around, so maybe someone knows the answer. Will it be possible to disable showing of the lock screen after waking up the phone with the end call/power button and the device taking you immediately to the homescreen? I'm used to that on my TD2, and I think that using the phone this way is just much faster.
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back to the original topic:
changing the registry key: HKey_current_user/ControlPanel/Backlight/AutodevicelockEnable to value '0' (zero) works with other 6.5 roms
by default it must have seen to '1'
edit: my bad, its been solved already

idrisito said:
back to the original topic:
changing the registry key: HKey_current_user/ControlPanel/Backlight/AutodevicelockEnable to value '0' (zero) works with other 6.5 roms
by default it must have seen to '1'
edit: my bad, its been solved already
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Is it solved already?? i can`t find it

mika34 said:
Is it solved already?? i can`t find it
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the clarification was made to the guy who started the thread in post 3. if thats not it then the reg change i have put it should disable/enable the lock screen if the power button is pressed

power button - slide to unlock

is there any way to just press on the screen to wake it up other then pressing the power button or trackball? if anyone has used an iphone i am looking for simply touch the screen to wake it up and sliding to unlock skipping trackball or power button presses. thanks.

It's possible to wake up the iPhone by touching the screen? Only for jailbroken phones? That's something I've never heard of before.
I don't think that is possible right now, Android would power down the touch sensor to save battery. Just like a stock iPhone does too.
I am interested to know how to do that on the iPhone though, I'd love to do that with my iPod Touch.

ohh thats right i forgot the iphone has to press the home button to wake it up after a long sleep. my iphone is setup to wait the longest time before going into a sleep so if i am waiting for something the backlight turns off and locks the phone but a press on the screen turns on the backlight waits to be unlocked. oh well would be cool to have on n1 though. thanks for the reply.

The program "nolock" in the market makes it so you can use either the trackball or volume buttons to wake the phone. Other than that, I think screen wake would kill your battery. Can't say for sure though.

worth trying this app thanks

Yeah, being an OLED screen, you can't just turn off the backlight. Each pixel is a light all by itself. Otherwise you could probably do the same trick.

No lock or keyguard disabler bypass or disable the lock screen. Root and running a custom rom like CM will let you double click the trackball to unlock the and wake the phone. There is also a menu unlock too.

I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.

krabman said:
I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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Menu wake doesn't do what I believe you may think it does, you still have to press the power button to turn the phone on. Then you press menu to skip the lockscreen.. which in my opinion is not needed. I only said this because you said no hard key will be worn out.. but they still will.

krabman said:
I have no lock and I like it because its one touch and you're rolling. On the other hand the wake up on trackball also enables the volume key to wake up and I was often unintentionally waking the phone so I disabled it. Going to try the menu wake up next. No hardkey to wear out, and combined with one touch I think it might be a winner for quickly lighting up the unit without the unintended wakes.
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what are you using for that?

Funny that because I just went to go hunt that one down and found that you are indeed correct, it only acts as an alternative to slide to unlock, it does not wake up the phone. Sigh.

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what are you using for that?
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Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.

sounds like i must dl it and worth pressing 1 button to wake up without sliding to unlock.

krabman said:
Ya ninja'ed me. I use a free market program called No Lock. Pretty much as its name implies it removes the requirement to slide to unlock, can be toggled. One touch of whatever you are using to wake it up and you are off to the races. A must have for types like me that dont use a lock and would prefer to wake and go. The app does have one niggle. It remembers my setting but at every restart and have to toggle it to get it to work.
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i see one called mylock that says it automatically starts again after device restart. worth a try.

If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.

krabman said:
If she turns up to be a winner pop let us know.
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yes i must say it works well. i didnt even try the no luck. it also has more reviews fyi. im keeping it. it also has an addon for something idle. im guessing that idle addon disabled the mylock to enter your security after an x amount of sleep time has passed. sounds ok if u want security enabled i guess but most pay a few cents for it. not for me at this point.

Phone self unlock

Hi. all
I have a problem, every time i listening to the music my phone unlocks-activates (like pressing the home button or power ones),
It is happening only when i listen to music, i tryied 3 different palyer (apollo, n7player, mort player), the same happened.
Does any one else have the same problem??
It's a problem for me because when i have phone in my pocket sometimes it start to select different things like call or starts some programs etc.
Can someone help? some solution
I'm on CM10 the newest

I have the same problem, i just use a pattern to unlock my phone.

Teh_Chuz said:
I have the same problem, i just use a pattern to unlock my phone.
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ya i now, but i have pattern thats why i'm asking about solution.
If anybody knows please give a feedback
Thanks.

If i remember correct there is an option somewhere in settings which says - 'volume key wakes screen' - check if thats enabled

no it isn't that, it unlocks it self with no phone touching.
today it happened in my pocket with no reason, with now app activated, by it self totally, and i called some person by misstake
Stupid bug

Strange haven't heard of any such bug yet but it'd be worth trying re flashing the rom from ground up
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That's the last thing i won to do, but if there aren't going to be any ideas then i'll do it.
For now i will wait and see.
Thanks for replay

kotu7 said:
That's the last thing i won to do, but if there aren't going to be any ideas then i'll do it.
For now i will wait and see.
Thanks for replay
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Hi! I have another very old Android phone (still with 2.2) and I have the same problem as you. I have a pattern + an app called Hidden Lock. There is a free Lite version and a paid Pro version of the app. Either of them will do the job.
The app creates for you additional lock screen. In this lock screen you have created an invisible button in a position that you only know. When you touch a button (hardware key, touch, volume rocker) or your screen unlocks, the program starts and displays "Hidden lock" message. Then you have to literally find the place on the screen where you have put your unlocking button and press it TWICE.
After that you can go to the draw pattern (android lock screen) and unlock it. This is double security for your phone - that's what I need, personally - I can't feel calm If I don't have such locker - my hardware lock key doesn't work and sometimes for now reason my phone unlocks... This is the only app that helps me.
I hope my post was helpful. Cheers!

Mine do that too, i've solved it fliping it when i carry it in my pocket, i think the touch is very sensitive and it activates when i'm walking, it sounds weird but this is the only thing that worked for me
I Sent this sitting in the WC

h4x0r007 said:
Mine do that too, i've solved it fliping it when i carry it in my pocket, i think the touch is very sensitive and it activates when i'm walking, it sounds weird but this is the only thing that worked for me
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I do the same thing, but i was just wondering if somone had the same problem and fix it in side the system not by additional lock security or by fliping it.
But thanks for your replay, i'll just hope someone from Dev people will find answer to that.