HELP: How can I debug radio? - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

Using AP3.0 I seem to have a very unique problem as I can not find any references to it, so I would like to debug the radio or at least look at what is going on between the cell company(fido) and the phone. I have 10+ years of c/c++.
The problem is that the phone is not connecting 50% of all calls in or out. If I dial out, after 3 seconds it hangs up. Inbound calls are fw to vm.
How would I go about producing a log file to begin with?
Thanks

The thread below is for an application built into most WM phones (but not the Athena) which shows the cellular engineering data coming from the celluar radio. Unfortunately most of the functions only appear to work for a very short time before they lock up, which is probably why the application wasn't included in our Athenas. However, it does demonstrate that its possible to interface with the radio - if you can find the documentation that tells you how. Works great on my wife's Tilt.
If you manage to write a similar program that works on our phones, please post it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431971

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Using as general modem via TAPI (or RIL if need be)

I am trying (unsuccessfully so far) to develop a program that will create a data (modem) connection to a modem connected to any other phone. I then want to transfer a small file using xmodem.
I have done extensive searches and tried solutions with TAPI calls based on samples I have found. I can dial the number of my laptop from the i-mate and the laptop on my desk rings. I tell it to pickup the line (ATA) and it does, but there is no "LINECALLSTATE_CONNECTED" from the "lineInitialize" callback function on the imate. All I get is a "LINECALLSTATE_DISCONNECTED" with the type as "LINEDISCONNECTMODE_UNREACHABLE". finally the it all hangs up, no connection.
I seem to be banging my head against a wall at the moment. There must be many of you out there who have done this or very similar.
I can post source is you want that type of thing, but I dont expect anyone to debug my app, but any pointers or others experiences are appreciated. I have come across the RIL interface, but I get the impression that TAPI is the "correct" way.
Thanks in advance.
Frustrated...
Have you got data enabled on your SIM. I was also banging my head against a wall until I thought I would check that with my service provider. There are 2 data things they can enable, one is fax but there is also data. Without data enabled you will never get a sucessfull modem connection.
arrhh!.. that's is. lol. I knew it would be something silly. Ill call today.
Thanks also. God bless you.
Well sorry to say that was not the issue, I still only get repeated
"LINEDISCONNECTMODE_UNREACHABLE"
errors. I am starting to wonder if I am just getting really bad lines. Can someone who has made a modem connection from the PPC to a desktop modem please post their experience on how reliable it is and what type of connection speed it should connect at (9600? 1200? 300? any connection?).
Is their any working sample code for creating a data connection from the PPC using the TAPI?
I will be happy to publish the code to the small project I am doing so future developers have something to work from as I havent been able to find a working example so far. (when it works that is)
Any help appreciated.
Thank-you
Figured out why it would not connect, for anyone else who has similar problems. Mine was the "CSC Line Type" option in the connection settings area.
It was set to "9600 v110" and "Non-transparent".
Im in australia, I understand the v.110 is the american standard, I changed it to
"9600 v.32" and "Non-transparent" and it connects fine. (dont you hate this type of bug)
Im still unsure what the "Transparent" and "Non-transparent" are todo with, if anyone could expain it would be appreciated.
I am glad you got it working. So I guess your code must be OK. I did not set any special communication mode so I guess that my XDA must of been set correctly anyway. It seems sensible that you are supplied with a setup for the country your device is meant for. I say this is bad of the provider.
How do you get to this setting ? I can't even seem to find it on my XDA. I have got a CSD setting that has a choice of 'Analogue' or 'ISDN' mode, mine is set to 'Analogue'.
I did post some code on this forum that is cut from an application I wrote, have a look at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=7857&highlight=#7857
Cheers
Paul
The code actually worked almost first time when I had all the connection settings right. Ive got the XModem transfer working now also.
The "CSD Line Type" on my device (an i-mate) is an icon in the setting connection tab. In the same tab there is also
"Beam" - allows you to turn on recieve all incoming beams
"Bluetooth" - on/off/discoverable and bonding
"Connections" - normal connection setup
"GPRS Settings" - PAP/CHAP auth and class 8(4RIT)/class 10(3R2T)
not sure what the different GPRS settings are for either, but that side seems to work.
Hey to you all,
I'm trying to set up a CSD connection via RIL , AT commands and TAPI!!! You seem to have accomplished the TAPI solution which i have not started yet, could you advice me on the necessary TAPI functions to use in order to make this work ?
Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks to all.
Have you seen this link?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=1716&highlight=csd

Cannot connect, End current call and try again error

I have an Xda Exec with:
JasJar
ROM 1.30.76
Radio 1.11.00
ExtRom 1.30.164
I keep getting error messages connecting to T-Mobile USA I reset and it works for a little while but then it drops again. The phone function is acting up too, sometimes it tells me either call failed or no service where I know there is service, usually a reset fixes it but it is very unrelialble.
Yep happens to me too. I started a thread on this subject matter two months ago I think Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46646
The Jas Jar (HTC 3G phone) has to switch from phone to data, data to phone. Sometimes it does not know if the phone is finished. If you get heaps of calls then using a PPC may not be your thing. But if you need PPC for the other PC features then it works great. I dont get a lot of calls so others may rebut this.
Having a poor signal doesnt help, getting adapters and antennas is the challenge see other threads on this forum. Currently they ( any manufacture ) are just starting to make adapters available, however no forum users have posted any success stories yet.
With skschema (http://s-k-tools.com/) , I wrote a script that checks data conection every hour, if the connection fails I force a reconnect, if reconnect fails, I turn GSM off then back on, if that fails I reset and reconnect GSM and internet . This script is like "Stay connected" software out there. I also have other maintence scripts, email checking, etc.
I was knew to PPC this year, I took me 3 months to get sorted, but I am happy now !
GoodLuck
I don't agree with your obversation about a PPC not being good for lots of phone calls I have a Wizard that is stable and does almost everything.
For the money of these phones I would expect to have both. I cannot believe that it has such a hard time with the simple things.
Fair enough, I use mine for data, emails, and internet.
I dont distribute the phone number, I use device as a mini laptop.
You are correct, it should handle all the calls you get.
However the Jas Jar is one of the first phones out there with phone to data on 2G and 3G. So maybe the next or future device/Operating system of this functionality will be better at switching between the two infomation types.
I thought 3G was not yet in USA ?
We have 3G but it works on the 1900 spectrum which make this phone useless execpt for GPRS.
I bought it for the larger screen and the keyboard I like how you don't have to press the function key to imput numbers while typing.
If I can't get this to work I will have to go back to my Wizard.

Call from TyTn being recieved as fax

Hi there
Just started messing with my Rogers Tytn and I've run into a big problem. At work we have a 'smart box' that is supposed to recognize if a fax or phone is calling (the same number for both). When I call the office from the Tytn the 'smart box' decides that the call is coming from a fax and switches on the fax machine and tries to connect.
Is there a way around this?
The way these "smart boxes" work is that they detect the periodic tone that fax machines transmit at the beginning of the call to disable downstream echo cancellors (if you are sending a fax you can sometimes here a beep every second or two before the receiving fax answers). I suppose it is possible that the TyTN is transmitting a similar tone during call initiation, but I have never heard of such a thing. What radio version are you running?
Can the "smart box" be configured for exceptions based on Caller ID?
John
Hi there
Radio version is 1.42.00.00
Can't program the smart box. It isn't that smart.
Still in buyers remorse period. If I the one place I can't call is the office than the phone is useless to me. And I really like it too. Dang!
kruwreka said:
Hi there
Radio version is 1.42.00.00
Can't program the smart box. It isn't that smart.
Still in buyers remorse period. If I the one place I can't call is the office than the phone is useless to me. And I really like it too. Dang!
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Um, pardon me if I missed something, but I haven't heard of that particular Radio Version. Is this new? I tried searching the entire Hermes main forum, and I get no hits (surprisingly, not even THIS message/thread).
Can you show us where you sourced this radio from?
-pvs
Not sure this helps you. It's a 4 day old Rogers wireless TyTn.
ROM 1.34.631.14
ROM date 04.17.07
Radio version 1.42.00.00
Protocol version 32.75.7020.18H
kruwreka said:
Not sure this helps you. It's a 4 day old Rogers wireless TyTn.
ROM 1.34.631.14
ROM date 04.17.07
Radio version 1.42.00.00
Protocol version 32.75.7020.18H
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Hmmm ... I'm sure there are others here on these forums who would love to get their hands on that radio. I do not remember seeing any reference to it before. Of course, if it's causing your problem, then maybe we're all better sticking with what we've got.
Unless somebody more knowledgable than I (most of the folks here are, btw) can recommend anything better, I would think that MIGHT be where the problem is originating. Maybe you could flash a different radio to see if that changes anything for you. FWIW, the radio in my signature has been the best one I ever found for my locale and carrier.
Good luck!
-pvs
New Radio ROM
I thought I seen someone mention this on another forum and a couple of us were asking around. Is it possible for somebody with the new TYTN to dump there ROM so that the rest of the community can get there hands on the new Radio ROM.
i think you should check with your service provider, it might be a wrong definition on your line
yes rogers has radio 1.42.00.00 we just need to find a way to get it......
austinsnyc said:
yes rogers has radio 1.42.00.00 we just need to find a way to get it......
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I agree, I have checked with HTC and Rogers, niether are releasing the current ROM, they are offering no downloads at present, hopefully somebody can get there hands on the Rogers phone and dump the ROM. Wait and See
Call from TyTn being received as fax
kruwreka, just for giggles, try calling your work number with the phone on speakerphone an see what happens.
Perhaps the mis-detection has something to do with the audio quality. There may be a hiss, hum or some other audio artifact that causes the box to confuse the call. Switching to speakerphone will let a lot more audio from your side of the phone go through possibly overriding any network introduced noise.
My first thought would be that any unusual noise on the line would be introduced by the switching network you are passing through, not from the phone itself. You can test that by calling someone else and seeing if the signal sounds clear. If the phone were introducing noise then it should be apparent to others you talk with on the phone. If the noise is introduced by the switching network then you may not be able to tell except by having someone answer the incoming call before the box can switch it to the fax or by disconnecting the box for a test.
thank you folks for all your responces...the problem seems to have resolved itself once I deleted the fax number from the contact information leaving only one instant of the number and rebooted

Trinity - multiple little problems

Hi,
First of all, I'm new here and I'm sorry if
a) These questions have been answered here 3748 times or
b) I have put this in the wrong forum/in the wrong format. I decided to group my questions together, in order to avoid cluttering the forum.
If a moderator feels I have posted this inappropriately, I'm happy to correct it, (eg. split this post into three).
So, that much for the disclaimer, don't shoot the noob
First question:
So, I bought a (used) trinity, pretty cheaply, and for the most part have been happy with it. Even got the GPS working, with the official update from the HTC website.
So, now that I knew how the rom flashing process went, I tried flashing the Indigo rom I downloaded from the forum. The problem is, I get stuck in the rom upgrade process, when the flashing is actually supposed to start. The PDA asks me to accept running the EnterBootLoader program, I accept, and the phone restarts, then, the system pops up with "connection lost, error 246 if I remember correctly". The phone returns to normal after a soft reset, so no harm done, but no good either. Is there some solution to this problem I am unaware of. Oh, the same happens when I try to flash hardspl too, so either, the current official ROM has some deviousness about it, or it's my computer. that is to blame.
Second question:
Two times now, my trinity's phone has played some tricks on me. First time, it showed an exclamation mark on the phone networking icon, the second time, all seemed normal, except, I couldn't access the phone settings, and when someone called me, to them it seemed I was just not picking up, but on my phone, nothing seemed to be going on. Is this normal, just another windows being windows, or could this be an indication of a hardware problem, or a problem with the dialer?
Third question:
When I first received the phone, it always tried to use GPRS or 3G to connect when I opened IE, even when there was a perfectly good WLAN connection connected. Upon ROM upgrade, all connection settings were lost. Originally, in the connection view, there were 2 or 3 sets of connection settings, now, there is only one.
- Am I supposed to add sets of settings there?
- I don't know where I am to add the 3g and GPRS settings?
- How do I set WLAN proxies, on the one set of settings I can see on connections, I can set a proxy, but it doesn't seem to work: at school, I can only see the internal network, but can't access the Internet.
I would also need to have two sets of proxy settings, one for school, one for home, is this possible?
Then, some spex from the phone, so you don't have to ask:
OS: WM5
ROM version: 1.23.403.2 (Offical, GPS enabled)
Radio version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtRom version: 1.23.405.103
Phone sold under name: HTC P3600
Finnish retail version.
Oh and on final note, this is an amazing forum, even if I started reading this a week before I got my phone, and have continued to do so ever since, the amount of information on any given subject related to PDAs and mobiles seems endless. I look forward in your insights in this matter.
Easy HTC Operator Configuration
Hi, if you have lost your Operator settings, there is an easy way
to set these settings :
You only need to download the operator configurator at http://www.planete-htc.com/index.php?mod=telechargements
It works well with Orange for me.
thanks to planete-htc
Hope this can help you.
Regards
botia said:
Hi,
First of all, I'm new here and I'm sorry if
a) These questions have been answered here 3748 times or
b) I have put this in the wrong forum/in the wrong format. I decided to group my questions together, in order to avoid cluttering the forum.
If a moderator feels I have posted this inappropriately, I'm happy to correct it, (eg. split this post into three).
So, that much for the disclaimer, don't shoot the noob
First question:
So, I bought a (used) trinity, pretty cheaply, and for the most part have been happy with it. Even got the GPS working, with the official update from the HTC website.
So, now that I knew how the rom flashing process went, I tried flashing the Indigo rom I downloaded from the forum. The problem is, I get stuck in the rom upgrade process, when the flashing is actually supposed to start. The PDA asks me to accept running the EnterBootLoader program, I accept, and the phone restarts, then, the system pops up with "connection lost, error 246 if I remember correctly". The phone returns to normal after a soft reset, so no harm done, but no good either. Is there some solution to this problem I am unaware of. Oh, the same happens when I try to flash hardspl too, so either, the current official ROM has some deviousness about it, or it's my computer. that is to blame.
Second question:
Two times now, my trinity's phone has played some tricks on me. First time, it showed an exclamation mark on the phone networking icon, the second time, all seemed normal, except, I couldn't access the phone settings, and when someone called me, to them it seemed I was just not picking up, but on my phone, nothing seemed to be going on. Is this normal, just another windows being windows, or could this be an indication of a hardware problem, or a problem with the dialer?
Third question:
When I first received the phone, it always tried to use GPRS or 3G to connect when I opened IE, even when there was a perfectly good WLAN connection connected. Upon ROM upgrade, all connection settings were lost. Originally, in the connection view, there were 2 or 3 sets of connection settings, now, there is only one.
- Am I supposed to add sets of settings there?
- I don't know where I am to add the 3g and GPRS settings?
- How do I set WLAN proxies, on the one set of settings I can see on connections, I can set a proxy, but it doesn't seem to work: at school, I can only see the internal network, but can't access the Internet.
I would also need to have two sets of proxy settings, one for school, one for home, is this possible?
Then, some spex from the phone, so you don't have to ask:
OS: WM5
ROM version: 1.23.403.2 (Offical, GPS enabled)
Radio version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtRom version: 1.23.405.103
Phone sold under name: HTC P3600
Finnish retail version.
Oh and on final note, this is an amazing forum, even if I started reading this a week before I got my phone, and have continued to do so ever since, the amount of information on any given subject related to PDAs and mobiles seems endless. I look forward in your insights in this matter.
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OK third question seems answered. You should find network operator settings on the HTC website.
Second Question - try flashing a ROM / Radio ROM again and see if you still have the problem. (For that you'll need an answer to question One
First Question: if this happens, you should leave the phone in bootloader mode (three coloured bars on the screen) make sure it say USB at the bottom of the Trinity screen - make sure you're not using Vista as an OS - use XP. provided the above conditions are met, exit and run the Rom Upgrade Utility again. This time the progress bar should show - start moving - and your ROM will flash. Search Google for trinity guids on how to for vista if that's you case.
Thanks for the answers, first of all,
I actually found out one bit of the problem by searching the forum, it seems my firewall might have been the cause of the ActiveSync problems I've been having. The Kerio Personal firewall seemed to cause the rapimgr.exe to go into a loop, this might have caused problems to the Rom utility as well.
The strange thing is, this problem only stopped when I _uninstalled_ the KPF, not when I turned it off.
I will load the operator settings you mentioned
The only thing left is the WLAN proxy settings, how do I set them, and is there a way to have two sets of them, say, one for each network SSID?

Hey guys, XV6900 newb here trying to enable GPS...

I have been reading around and talking to friends about the Touch phone, and could use a little more assistance on enabling the GPS in my phone. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Robbie
have you upgraded to windows mobile 6.1??
if so, then go to start > settings > Phone > Services tab > make sure location setting is highlighted, click get settings >then make sure it is set to on.
that will make sure that applications are allowed to use your gps signal.
then once you have done that,
open your gps, if you use google maps you have to click menu, use gps.
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom. My question is, does gps use data? Is the gps a real gps that connects to satellites or is it some pseudo gps that approximates my location by triangulating distances between my phone and the nearest couple cell towers? I don't have a data plan and don't want an unpleasant suprise on my next bill.
jrb_82 said:
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom. My question is, does gps use data? Is the gps a real gps that connects to satellites or is it some pseudo gps that approximates my location by triangulating distances between my phone and the nearest couple cell towers? I don't have a data plan and don't want an unpleasant suprise on my next bill.
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Yes, the Vogue has a real GPS antena. If you read through the forums you'll find verizon users have to do a bit of tweaking to get it working.
It can be confusing, because our phones also support "agps". This stands for assisted gps. AGPS uses cell phone tower triangulation to get a position.
GPS has inherent errors, in the aviation world there is a system called diffrential GPS. This uses a ground based system to correct the time diffrential error in the sattelites for greater accuracy. Without dgps you cannot use the gps inputs for a precision approach, only enroute, terminal and overlay. We use other systems such as vor/dme. This uses ground based "towers" to get a position using radial and distance information. This is very similiar to what agps does.
to answer the question does it use data?
the answer is yes.
it has to have a data connection in order to receive the gps data.
atleast thats my understanding, as a data connection does start and maintain during my gps sessions.
codybear said:
to answer the question does it use data?
the answer is yes.
it has to have a data connection in order to receive the gps data.
atleast thats my understanding, as a data connection does start and maintain during my gps sessions.
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No it shouldn't. The data connection you're seeing is probably initiated by the application that needs the internet for transferring maps like Google maps or MS Live search.
If you load up any independent GPS app that uses locally stored maps like TomTom or Garmin, then it shouldn't initiate any data connections.
thanks method man for correcting me.
i didn't think about it that way. haha.
Also a Newbie
I was wondering whether there was an app that I would need to install on my xv6900 to get the GPS working or do i need an external device like the TomTom Go series to get the GPS up and running.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thankyou
How to get GPS to work
acidreflux1 said:
I was wondering whether there was an app that I would need to install on my xv6900 to get the GPS working or do i need an external device like the TomTom Go series to get the GPS up and running.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thankyou
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The reason it dont work is because GPS tries to connect one way, i belive its phone as modem. and when you browse the internet, it tries to connect as Sprint PCS.
now i might be wrong in that, but just lisen.
in order to fix it you need to do a registry change. get a free program to edit the registry. like PHM RegEdit.
got it downloaded? installed? good. lets move on.
open it up
click on My Device
+HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
+Comm
+ConnMgr
+Providers
+{7C4B7A38-somethingsomethingsomething}
+Phone as Modem.
go into that setting, make sure that the key AlwaysOn is set to 0
THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART
go down a setting from phone as modem to
+SprintPCS
the key inside doesnt have to be set to Always On, but you can enable it if you want.
now close it up. count to 20 and do a restart on the phone
next time you try to run any GPS app it should work. use GoogleMaps though.
also while you are in here you can go into ConnectionSharing. a key above ConnMgr. and make it so you can use your phone as a modem for your laptop. the option was removed in the 6.1 update. let me know if you wish to know how.
6.1 ROM? and GPS
jrb_82 said:
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom.
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I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
jimonfly said:
I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
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Here is the link to the offical WM6.1 ROM
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon Wireless
1. sync your phone with Outlook. You will loose everything on your phone when you flash the new ROM. Files on your memory card will be safe.
2. Unlock your phone with 2.31 & refer to the links below.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
http://www.atwistedweb.com/xv6900/index.html
3. connect your phone to your computer via activesync & run the ROM file you download. Simply follow the instructions.
4. Your phone will hard reset once the flash is complete. You will have to align the screen & such. The very last screen will ask you to tap the screen to begin using your device. You have to be ready to soft reset your phone as soon as you tap the screen. DO NOT LET THE CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN OR YOU WILL BE SCREWED FOR SURE.
5.Settings--->Phone--->Services Tab select location settings & then hit the get settings button. Make sure Location On is selected.
6. Download the Holus GPS viewer & install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434408&highlight=holux+gps+viewer
post #3
7. Once the GPS viewer open hit the scan button. This will tell you what port & at what baud you GPS is at. It should be com 4 @ 4800.
8. Hit the open GPS button & hopefully you will get a lock.
phone keeps scanning for satellites
Is this normal? The GPS program ran and continues to search for satellites. Its alomst like it can't find any. I ran it just the way you listed. Anything else I can try?
If you are using Holux GPS viewer and you see red dots then be happy your GPS is working. Usually first lock takes longer. try it on an open place hopefully you will get a lock. The red dots you see on Holux are the satellites that your GPS is seeing, Once it gets a lock you will see blue dots and that's a fix. If it continues to flash red dots, I would try closing and opening port once, that wud restart the GPS.
Once you get a lock, use any 3rd party software like Garmin Mobile XT or Tomtom Navigator 7 if you don't have a data plan. If you have a dataplan then you can use goolemaps too.
Hope it helps..
bwolsen said:
Is this normal? The GPS program ran and continues to search for satellites. Its alomst like it can't find any. I ran it just the way you listed. Anything else I can try?
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MethodMan said:
No it shouldn't. The data connection you're seeing is probably initiated by the application that needs the internet for transferring maps like Google maps or MS Live search.
If you load up any independent GPS app that uses locally stored maps like TomTom or Garmin, then it shouldn't initiate any data connections.
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No that isn't true at all,
I have both Tomtom and Igo with map files on the sd card. The phone needs the internet to get the agps information otherwise the GPS programs can't get a lock. It doesn't use much adata at all as I was roaming in the states (from canada) for around 10 days , I used the gps everyday and was only charged under $3 for the whole 10 days.
jimonfly said:
I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
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http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon Wireless
Here is the update you are looking for, now.... For the love of the lord, DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATION RUN!!!
Update your device as directed in the file, when the device updates and restarts, you will see a message that says something like "Running Customization in... 3,2,1 Seconds" or something like that, when you see that, stick the stylus in the hole at the bottom of the device and you will avoid a big pain in the @ss.
EDIT: Oops, i'm too late LOL, didn't refresh thepage while searching the update.
Can't get a lock
I just followed all the steps and installed GPS viewer and could not get a lock. I used the Verizon MR1 rom. Since that did not work I tried installing Valhalla GPS Server to see if that would help. No luck. Any Ideas?
mfpreach said:
No that isn't true at all,
I have both Tomtom and Igo with map files on the sd card. The phone needs the internet to get the agps information otherwise the GPS programs can't get a lock. It doesn't use much adata at all as I was roaming in the states (from canada) for around 10 days , I used the gps everyday and was only charged under $3 for the whole 10 days.
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I have data blocked on my phone and the GPS worked fine up until about a month ago. Whatever Verizon did blocked my GPS and I have not been able to get is working since. I can still run GPS viewer and see satellites but I can't get a fix on them.
I have everything working now. Thanks.
Just so I have it straight...
When I unlock the phone with 2.31, do I let customizations run? The ppcgeeks thread doesn't specify, but the atwistedweb thread says let them run. What does 2.31 do? Just unlock the phone so I can install the next ROM? Also, the ppc post talks about disabling USB while the other does not. Is there a preference?
When I install the new WM6.1 ROM, the atwistedweb post says to install it from the SD card, while the this thread says via USB. Once again, any preference?
I understand not to let the customizations run for this ROM and by putting the stylus in the bottom hole it resets the machine. After it comes up again, will the phone be (should be) upgraded and ready to use?
Lastly, if my phone gets "bricked" (I guess that means it turns into a battery powered paperweight), you guy can help me out, right?
Man, all of this just to get GPS and Verizon service. Still nervous! And Verizon won't shut my service off or stop tech support?
Thanks again. Trying to get all the info up front so I don't have to later. Jim
jimonfly said:
Just so I have it straight...
When I unlock the phone with 2.31, do I let customizations run? The ppcgeeks thread doesn't specify, but the atwistedweb thread says let them run. What does 2.31 do? Just unlock the phone so I can install the next ROM? Also, the ppc post talks about disabling USB while the other does not. Is there a preference?
When I install the new WM6.1 ROM, the atwistedweb post says to install it from the SD card, while the this thread says via USB. Once again, any preference?
I understand not to let the customizations run for this ROM and by putting the stylus in the bottom hole it resets the machine. After it comes up again, will the phone be (should be) upgraded and ready to use?
Lastly, if my phone gets "bricked" (I guess that means it turns into a battery powered paperweight), you guy can help me out, right?
Man, all of this just to get GPS and Verizon service. Still nervous! And Verizon won't shut my service off or stop tech support?
Thanks again. Trying to get all the info up front so I don't have to later. Jim
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Make sure you have backed up everything. First you need to unlock with the .40 unlocker. Then flash to the sprint pre-GPS ROM (This will downgrade your radio which is said to be dangerous but I have never heard of anyone hurting their phone while doing it correctly. This will also require you to call Verizon and get a new A-key. If they ask you what happened just tell them that you had to hard reset your device because of a bad program. Go through all of their steps and it will all get fixed. You have to call Verizon because you wont be able to make calls.) DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN! You'll know they're about to run beacuse there will be a pop up saying they're going to run in 3 seconds (or something like that). As soon as you see that pop up stick your stylus in the reset hole. Then unlock with the 2.31 unlocker. After you use this unlocker you wont have to unlock again. Ok now you flash back to the Verizon MR1 ROM. DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN! Once again you'll know they're about to run beacuse there will be a pop up saying they're going to run in 3 seconds (or something like that). Now after you do this your GPS should be working but I was never able to get it to work with the Verizon MR1 ROM. So I recommend using NSFFAN's 6.5 ROM. Now when I unlock and flash ROM's I don't disable the USB thing your talking about. I also flash everything through my computer (USB) and not through the SD card. There is a small chance you can brick your phone but if you do everything carefully and correctly it's a very very small chance. Just make sure you are doing everything right before moving on to each next step. If a phone is bricked I don't think it can be recovered but i'm not 100% sure. Lots of times when there are problems though it's not a bricked phone and just a glitch so if you have anything that doesn't seem right just come on here and ask for help. Verizon won't do anything with your service except fix your phone like I said earlier unless you tell them what your actually doing. I don't know what happens then and I don't want to find out.. What they don't know won't hurt them Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or need any help.

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