So Ive noticed that the latest phoneAlarm has basically the same functionality as Second today, (phoneAlarm is useless if it is not run as a today screen plugin) and it works jsut as well, if not a TAD bit faster. So my questions is, what have people noticed if anything else in the difference of the two.
Also, One thing I have noticed is that when I launch Manila, via the phonealarm's softkey, then when i press the home hardware button, it doesnt take me to the home tab of manila which bugs me cause i used to use that a lot. Any thoughts on what might be going on there?
You hit the nail on the head with the "home" button, I didn't like that much either.
The main difference is in boot order, I think. If you use PhoneAlarms functionality (i.e. "enable TF3D" option), then PhoneAlarm (and anything else) runs 'natively' in TODAY and adds the softkey to LOAD Manila -- therefore you will always START with the Today screen, and Manila will not run until you press the key. (this appears to effect the hardware home button as well)
If you use SecondToday, however, Manila is now running natively FIRST -- and your Today apps will also start running in the background automatically. Remember to disable the TF3D option in PhoneAlarm, and you can still use both softkeys for whatever you want in SecondToday.
I've tried both, and definitely prefer SecondToday. The Home key now works from anywhere.
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Can I program a key so it will rotate between my running programs, like windows the ALT+TAB functionality?
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jjplayground said:
Can I program a key so it will rotate between my running programs, like windows the ALT+TAB functionality?
Thanx!
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VJ's app "vjOkButt" can do just that. Search the forum for it.
Xbar 3.2 is a really great program too:
http://xetranet.free.fr/xbar2/?lang=eng&project=xBar 2
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Thanks a lot, I will try that!
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Thanks a lot, I will try that!
Cycling back and forward - not just minimising...
I currently use Magic Button, which changes the top title bar window into a virtual taskbar with icons for the first n active applications, n being customisable. It's not an ALT+TAB program, however, although I find it very useful.
I had a look at vjOkButt, and it seems to just switch by minimising applications - presumably (without having tried the application), after all applications are minimised, you end up on the Today screen. What happens then?
What would be good, (for the Blue Angel, and any other phone with an up/down hardware button originally designed for volume) would be to be able to customise the up/down volume button to cycle back and forward through applications respectively. This would be similar to pressing ALT+TAB to go from Application1 to Application2, and then ALT+TAB to go back again. Otherwise, it would be necessary to do a full cycle before going back again. (Technically speaking, if just cycling through applications, without the window with all applications appearing, as the xBar product seems to do, this would operate just like pressing ALT+ESC and ALT+SHIFT+ESC to go back again... try it!)
is there a way to make point UI like the default of everything. When i press the red button on my touch, it goes backto WM desktop. IF i want to use this as a normal "skin" then it needs to go back to the homescreen when presing the red button, and only going back to normal WM desktop when i manually do it???... Also how do you stop programs w/in pointui home. it just says currently running, and how do you stop those progs?
Perhaps you should ask this on the PointUI forums?
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is there a way to make point UI like the default of everything. When i press the red button on my touch, it goes backto WM desktop. IF i want to use this as a normal "skin" then it needs to go back to the homescreen when presing the red button, and only going back to normal WM desktop when i manually do it???... Also how do you stop programs w/in pointui home. it just says currently running, and how do you stop those progs?
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Use third party X-Button,Task Manager or Resco to close program when you back to WM desktop. You can close programs with 1.01b but still quite a bit steps. It does not fall back to Home screen is still no get around yet. Same if you lock the device but if you press the power button, it will unlock. This UI has not worked all bugs out yet.
ambush276 said:
is there a way to make point UI like the default of everything. When i press the red button on my touch, it goes backto WM desktop. IF i want to use this as a normal "skin" then it needs to go back to the homescreen when presing the red button, and only going back to normal WM desktop when i manually do it???... Also how do you stop programs w/in pointui home. it just says currently running, and how do you stop those progs?
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Tap on the arrow on the lower screen of PointUI Home
-> Currently Running
-> Select your desired application
-> The program opens with the PointUI titlebar
-> Tap on the name of the application
-> Force Close
Then youre on your Desktop again. Tap on the title "Desktop" and select "Home" again.
Yes, quite a lot steps, but I'm already used to it
Greetings and have a nice day
Been having fun with 6.5 after getting it loaded up, the home screen is great. I kind of think the start menu has something to be desired, big icons that scroll up and down. Well got me thinking, is there a plug-in out there, for the home screen that when flicked right or left, would move the whole "main" home menu off screen and bring up a new menu(slides in from the approate direction?). Run up and down with in that new menu, then flick again (right or left) and get yet another new menu, all of these additional menu sets either preset or set up by the user. To get back to the home screen, maybe a soft Home key or just wait a few seconds and the software shifts back to Home?
Something to ponder, talk amongst your selves.
--B
Thats a great idea, although not really suited for me and it would be extremely annoying to an extent. Because when you scroll with your thumb up/down you move slightly to the left or right.. that would trigger it and annoy most if not all people.
I'm sure a range of some kind could be set up that would recognize what's meant to be up-down Vs. left-right. Already see it with most of the fields on the home screen. I just saw it as a way to keep the start menu programs "in theme" while not extending the home screen to some crazy length.
i was thinking the same thing.. for the start menu i think it can be done since ifonz and iphone today are similar to this type of a menu. It would be pretty useful or another option would be to get rid of the bouncy option and instead when u scroll the other way, it should show the icons from the bottom of the list.
what do u think?
just want to know if there is a solution to map the home button to close all the running programs and return to initial home page (with big clock appears) from wherever we are
thanks
...why would you want that...?
if we had this button, we could quickly return to the normal standby state without multiple presses...
it is intuitive when we mess up something on the phone...
put it in another way, it is just like an iPhone intuitive home button....
Install a taskmanager that has the "close all" option.
The home button works perfectly well as it is now, brings you back to homescreen so that you can quickly check something or launch another app from the quicklinks without closing what you were doing... the advantage of multitasking.
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if we had this button, we could quickly return to the normal standby state without multiple presses...
it is intuitive when we mess up something on the phone...
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What do you mean "normal standby state"? Just...
...put the phone into standby.
*GASP*
And when you "mess up something on the phone", you're probably going to be soft resetting it.
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put it in another way, it is just like an iPhone intuitive home button....
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I don't think you people who parade the supposed virtues of the iPhone actually understand what "intuitive" means.
A "Home" button taking you to the home screen...that's "intuitive".
A "Home" button taking you to the home screen and closing all your apps...how's that "intuitive"?
That's the equivalent of saying that you think WIN+D in Windows should close all the open programs in addition to showing the desktop.
The home button takes you back to the home screen...
It doesn't close apps; it just brings manila home tab to the front.
It sounds like yours doesn't?
iPhone closes apps with the home button because it does not have multitask. HD2 has multi-task so there's no reason to close apps with the home button...
Anyway, the phone is yours so you can do whatever you want to do with it. AFAIK there's no way to do what you want, but you can install a task manager if you want to close multiple apps at one time...
Thanks for all replies....
I know the "home" button should take me back to home screen...
Actually, I mapped "home" button with AEButton...
1 click: Home Screen
2 clicks: Home Screen + close all apps
They work fine but with one minor step to be perfect...
It can not return to the "very beginning" BIG Clock home screen, it
just returns to the previous state of today, if I wiped up the screen before I have to wipe down to bring back the clock...
I want this because many main functions are within "Big Clock" screen,
e.g. calendar(I mapped to PI), alarm, Clock (tap clock = Opera),
Date(tap date = SPB wireless monitor), weather....
Sorry for misleading u all because my bad English...
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It can not return to the "very beginning" BIG Clock home screen, it
just returns to the previous state of today, if I wiped up the screen before I have to wipe down to bring back the clock...
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That is the way Manila/Sense works, it is so you can dip in and out of different programs while not losing your place in the quicklinks.
hollandking said:
Thanks for all replies....
I know the "home" button should take me back to home screen...
Actually, I mapped "home" button with AEButton...
1 click: Home Screen
2 clicks: Home Screen + close all apps
They work fine but with one minor step to be perfect...
It can not return to the "very beginning" BIG Clock home screen, it
just returns to the previous state of today, if I wiped up the screen before I have to wipe down to bring back the clock...
I want this because many main functions are within "Big Clock" screen,
e.g. calendar(I mapped to PI), alarm, Clock (tap clock = Opera),
Date(tap date = SPB wireless monitor), weather....
Sorry for misleading u all because my bad English...
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hi, i use a 6.5.x rom and use the '<-' back button. pressing it once closes down my actual foreground application and puts me to the last selected manila tab. pressing it again jumps to the first 'bigclock' manila tab.
or if it is not working out that way in your rom, at least the combination home button->back button should bring you to first manila screen anyhow.
mad
ps. strange, while playing around to proof my words, i find out that my home button brings me back to the first manila screen anyway... maybe something didnt work out with your aebutton ore your rom/wm version?
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That is the way Manila/Sense works, it is so you can dip in and out of different programs while not losing your place in the quicklinks.
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This is not how Manila works. I had the same problem. once you click the home button, it goes to home tab. But that was before i was playing with the phone. Now, when i click home button..it goes on the home sreen, but on the last tab i was..i.e. messages, not at the beginning (home icon). I dont know what happened..and im trying to figure it out. It has nothing to do with the rom. I`m using Energy Rom on my HD2. something got messed with the manila settings..because it worked before.
I'm looking for a task switcher that shows all running apps (and not like the default android one which only shows the 6 most recent). The ones I've come across seem to require a long press of the search button to activate, but the SGS lacks a dedicated search button.
Does anyone know of one that uses another shortcut, long press home / double tap home for example?
This is exactly what I'm looking for, but I've been searching through in market place for something that let's me assign program to hardware key action. No luck so far. Any experienced folks know if it's possible to customize the phone this way?
I have used taskswitcher and prehome..both function pretty much the same way...tap home button once shows all running apps and hitting it once more from the app switch screen takes you to the home screen. I kinda prefer prehome as it seems to use less memory but then again theres really not much of a difference imo..hope this helped..
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I have used taskswitcher and prehome..both function pretty much the same way...tap home button once shows all running apps and hitting it once more from the app switch screen takes you to the home screen. I kinda prefer prehome as it seems to use less memory but then again theres really not much of a difference imo..hope this helped..
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Great recommendation. Will try it out. Thank you very much for sharing is.
Lovely. Pressing home will show the truly still running task instead of recently used ones. It's lets you kill or switch to any active program.
So, long press home to show last 6 most recently used programs
single press home will invoke the task manager, allowing killing and switching.
Double press home to really go to home.
Sounds like what I want. Seems a little buggy, but I'm happy with it at least for now.