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O2 XDA - wireless 'linkup' experiment! Help?

Hi,
I was just wondering if its possible to 'link' the XDA Exec with multiple Laptops so that the laptops all show the XDA's display? Lets assume all Laptops have wi-fi, bluetooth and run Windows XP.
Purposes may be to share a PP presentation, show a software demo etc. (I need to give a tutorial and demo in a room with no projector ).
I was curious if anyone has had any experiance with this? Any advice regarding the best setup (or software) would be great. Cheers.

Nobody any ideas whatsoever?

You could install windows media encoder on one of the laptops, and a remote control app. Then run the remote control app so you can see your phone's screen. Once that's working you can run windows media encoder in screen caputre mode, all the other laptops will be able to connect it it then.

Broon said:
Nobody any ideas whatsoever?
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You can play with Microsoft's "ActiveSync Remote Display". The tool allows you to work with your PPC remotely from your laptop/PC using ActiveSync connection. But you will need to install ActiveSync and this tool to every laptop
If it is a matter of presentation, why don't you copy your presentation to local server's shared folder and ask people to open the file from this folder and listen to your instructions, like Going to next slide... At least there won't be any hassle with intervention to participants' laptops and personal space ))
ps: if you do possess a PC you can run something like MS Netmeeting and establish AS connection with your PDA through AS Remote Display at your PC. Share AS Remote Display application and ask people to connect to your PC's NetMeeting or any other remote conference software
Let us know on your results
Cheers

IMate->WM2k5 said:
If it is a matter of presentation, why don't you copy your presentation to local server's shared folder and ask people to open the file from this folder and listen to your instructions, like Going to next slide... At least there won't be any hassle with intervention to participants' laptops and personal space ))
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Thats my last resort - I hate doing presentations like this especially when we have the technology to do something 'fancy' :lol:
I will give some feedback to let you know how I managed it (I will succeed)!

Cheers for the ideas!

IMate->WM2k5 said:
You can play with Microsoft's "ActiveSync Remote Display". The tool allows you to work with your PPC remotely from your laptop/PC using ActiveSync connection. But you will need to install ActiveSync and this tool to every laptop
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I just had a look at AS Remote Display and it seemed this would do the trick - However, it does not work with Windows Mobile 5.0.
Does anyone know of a release of AS Remote Display for Windows Mobile 5? I had a look around but there does not seem to be much on offer which is compliant with 5.0.

Right, another problem.
I just installed an app called : Laplink Controller thinking as it offered the functionality I was looking for.
After a supposidly successful install I tried to run it - no joy. It reccommended I uninstall and re-install the software, so I did.
When re-installing I got a message saying:
Cannot load resouce library:
\Windows\MWRes???412L.dll
It now comes up everytime I do a soft reset. Anybody seen this error?

Syncing with Vista

Any of you guys been able to sync your TyTN with Windows Vista.
I'm running Vista Beta 2 v5536 - and syncing is a nightmare.....
ptm

When you say syncing is a nightmare, do you get the setup option for windows mobile center. The similar problem I have is that I only get the connection settings thats it.

In Vista, ActiveSync is replaced by a new app called Windows Mobile Device Centre. By default in Beta 2, this isn't installed, so all you can do is copy file on and off the TyTn.
To install WMDC, you need to plug the device in and let it install the default driver etc. Then, run Windows Update, and you'll have a new Optional Update to install WMDC. Then, let this update run, reboot the machine and plug in the device again. It'll install new drivers again - I think you then need to unplug and replug the device again and you should be sorted.

Thanks Ptm, this used to be the case in the old build. But ever since build 5536 which was released few days ago, it stopped downloading the files automatically. I have run windows updates repeatedly without luck.

I am having the same problem, it syncs my storage card with the media player, and I can browse the device.
But I cannot get it to sync anything else.
I am running Vista 5536.

ah - you're running pre-RC1 builds rather than post beta 2 builds. The WMDC app has changed for RC1 and the registry key required to get the new app downloaded from WU has also changed. You'll have to wait until RC1 comes out - won't be long now

Windows Vista and HTC Prophet Upgrade
I have been living with Windows Vista Beta 2 Build 5384 since June. This is an "evoluting version" that is upgraded/improved/corrected from time to time. All in all I should not have done that and stay with XP Pro but I was not sure how to unistall it. However, the Windows Mobile Sync function works well with my HTC prophet (Qtek S200) which is equipped with ROM 2.15.23.27 WME, 3/9/06, Radio version 02.19.21, Protocol version 4.1.13.09, ExtROM version 2.15.13.121. Last week, after a little research, I decide to upgrade with RUU_Prophet_2151327_22113102_022021_Dopod_PDAMobizEdition_v101 though I was not that sure that it was really an upgrade (I was looking for the Push-Email feature). In any event, the upgrade program did not work. I am stuck. It stopped regularly with a code error [202]: Th update utility (V2.5.2) could not connect to the PDA Phone. All comments are welcome

I think the sync of media player works much better with Vista Pre RC1 than active sync, I have a dual boot, so the other functions I can still use XP.
I hope this is better in RC1 out on Tuesday?

I am using RC1 (build 5600) and still cannot get the Mobile Center up.
I've connected my WM5 BA and although I can browse it - it's as though Mobile Center doesn't recognise it's a WM5 device so doesn't start up. And Activesync, like before, still cannot be installed on 55XX and 56XX builds. Looks like its just a broken feature.

Biohead said:
I am using RC1 (build 5600) and still cannot get the Mobile Center up.
I've connected my WM5 BA and although I can browse it - it's as though Mobile Center doesn't recognise it's a WM5 device so doesn't start up. And Activesync, like before, still cannot be installed on 55XX and 56XX builds. Looks like its just a broken feature.
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No, it's not broken in RC1 - it's just different to the WMDC for beta 2 and I don't think the enabler has been posted publicly yet. The enabler allows you to download the download WMDC from Windows Update by adding a registry key. The new version of WMDC works fine in RC1 (I work for Microsoft btw, so I've got access to the internal versions, but I'm using RC1 - 5600 - and WMDC is fine)

It is difficult for me to argue with a genuine specialist of Microsoft but with respect to the Sync function, I recall that the "Windows Mobile Device Center" that has replaced in Windows Vista the ActiveSync 4.1 of the past did not work until I triggered the firewall options. After it worked well though the Notes included in the Contacts (MC Outlook) are not synchronised correctly. Hence, my surprise for the impossibility to upgrade as explained above.

Ok, I will have to wait until next week to test your views on RC1, as that when its comes on MSDN, subscription which I have.

I'm on 5600 to - any help with WMDC? *cough*

Hey petes. How is RC1, is it stable enough to use as an everyday OS. Does office 2007 work ok on it? Does it work with windows server 2003 r2?

nickcerda said:
Hey petes. How is RC1, is it stable enough to use as an everyday OS. Does office 2007 work ok on it? Does it work with windows server 2003 r2?
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RC1 - 5600 - seems very solid. I don't know what the plans are for a later public build of Office 2007, but the build I'm running (which is quite a bit later than beta 2) seems really happy on RC1 - I haven't had any crashes at all - but then 5600 was only cut on 30th os it's pretty new. However, the interim CTP builds have really been making strides each month. I no longer have an XP SP2 partition on my machine - I, and I think many others, will see RC1 as the time to switch.

I'm using Vista Beta 2 and sych with TyTN is fine.
However, I'm having trouble using my TyTN as a laptop modem under IR, bluetooth or USB. Do any Vista users have a similar experience?

I'm using Vista Beta 2 and sych with TyTN is fine.
However, I'm having trouble using my TyTN as a laptop modem under IR, bluetooth or USB. Do any Vista users have a similar experience?

Solved my own problem and I can now use my phone as a laptop modem, by bluetooth, IR and USB with Windows Vista (needed to hard reset my Hermes).

hi,
i'm using 5536 and when i click sync in wmedia player the program crashes. it says a problem caused the program to stop working. any ideas?
thanks.

I have got RC1.5600 now, but the sync still does not work, may I need a fix to enable this, or have to do a hard reset of my tytn.

How do I use BT FTP Explorer?

Sorry for being such a lame but:
I have installed it (JUVS_HTC_BTFtpClient_KAISER_1_1_29958_1.cab) but how do I use it?
Maybe it's the weather, time of year or my age but I just don't get it
A simple step-by-step how to is welcome.
Thanks!

Hope This Helps
siwyboss said:
Sorry for being such a lame but:
I have installed it (JUVS_HTC_BTFtpClient_KAISER_1_1_29958_1.cab) but how do I use it?
Maybe it's the weather, time of year or my age but I just don't get it
A simple step-by-step how to is welcome.
Thanks!
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There are several steps: (WM6 side and PC side)
WM6 Side:
Need to go into Bluetooth settings: \settings\connections\bluetooth
Once you've got there at the bottom of the screen you will find several tabs
(Devices\Mode\Com Ports\FTP\Security)
Go To:
(Mode Tab) Check off both, bluetooth turned on and bluetooth is visible.
Go To:
(FTP Tab) Enable bluetooth explorer, file sharing and choose the folder you'd like to share. (I shared my SD card)
PC Side:
Now you need to pair your PC to your WM6 device
Once you've paired your device you should be set to transfer files back and forth to Desktop and WM6 device
Options:
Remember there are several options you can adjust if you want to customize your pairing.
Some options you may want to consider:
Is your PC visible to your WM6 device? And how often will it look?
Setting up you device on your PC to always allow to avoid the password?
Checking your device to ensure all the Bluetooth options you want for this particular pair are checked off (Stereo, headset & ActiveSync)
These are just a few, so play around with both sides till it meets your needs.

wow. I never know how to use this feature either. I am gonna try this tonight. If it works, then I don't need to use my card reader anymore. Just share with bluetooth. Thanks a lot for the info.

Thanks a lot! Actually I don't know why I could not get it work.
Yesterday I tried it on my home PC (BT ver 2.0 EDR, Vista, BlueSoleil soft) and worked like a charm.
Before I had tried it on my business laptop with XP Pro SP2 and generic MS BT stack and maybe this is why I had problems.
To be honest I didn't even want to install BlueSoleil as MS stack was ok for what I needed (except that FTP) but unfortunatelly my new BT dongle was not even recognized by Vista. And since I got BlueSoleil on my PC it works great. Thanks for feedback!

Mass Storage Mode

Has anyone had any luck in getting the Treo Pro to function as a USB mass storage device (using WM5torage, CardExport II, some ported hack of the WM6 USB control panel applet, or some other solution)?
I'm considering getting rid of my iPod as the Pro works quite well with Kinoma Play, but getting the files on using Activesync is painfully slow, and pulling the card out of the TP to connect directly to my computer is, well, just not a realistic option.
Thanks!

I've installed "Wei enterprise's USB to PC" as all of the usual suspects refused to work. This one works - but only intermittently. There is a conflict between these and the Palm programme that installs activesync.
I have made it work by keeping an eye on the phone screen and "cancelling" whenever the installation programme runs. Once we get into the ROM Dump, hopefully we'll be able to uncook this activesync installer and make this work properly!
John

johnjtaylor said:
I've installed "Wei enterprise's USB to PC" as all of the usual suspects refused to work. This one works - but only intermittently. There is a conflict between these and the Palm programme that installs activesync.
I have made it work by keeping an eye on the phone screen and "cancelling" whenever the installation programme runs. Once we get into the ROM Dump, hopefully we'll be able to uncook this activesync installer and make this work properly!
John
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You probably don't need a rom cooking for that. Just try task manager v.3.1 from this forum, and go to service and device tab. One of them is your mass storage service ( be carefull, there is also a real storage service, which serves your SD and internal memory). Just stop it, and see how your program works.
If you don't know which one to stop, just post here the list of all running services, and I'll tell you what to try.

johnjtaylor said:
I've installed "Wei enterprise's USB to PC" as all of the usual suspects refused to work. This one works - but only intermittently. There is a conflict between these and the Palm programme that installs activesync.
I have made it work by keeping an eye on the phone screen and "cancelling" whenever the installation programme runs. Once we get into the ROM Dump, hopefully we'll be able to uncook this activesync installer and make this work properly!
John
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could you please tell me where you got that one, as i would like to test for myself a little bit...thanks

I got it from here:
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueMassStorage.aspx
John

thaihugo said:
You probably don't need a rom cooking for that. Just try task manager v.3.1 from this forum, and go to service and device tab. One of them is your mass storage service ( be carefull, there is also a real storage service, which serves your SD and internal memory). Just stop it, and see how your program works.
If you don't know which one to stop, just post here the list of all running services, and I'll tell you what to try.
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Which service are you talking about? None of them seem to be labeled as mass storage...

I tried nueMassStorage on my Treo 800w and my PC would intermittently recognize it as a mass storage device, but the 800w does not have any ActiveSync installer. Still the PC would lose recognition of the Treo 800w as a mass storage device and get it back every minute or so.
But even when my PC could recognize my Treo 800w as a mass storage device, the speed of data transfer was exactly as slow as when connected via ActiveSync. There was no improvement in transfer speed at all. When using a MicroSDHC card reader data transfer goes very fast, especially with class 6 cards.
Every program I've used to turn my Treo 800w into a mass storage device may or may not work, but none improves transfer speed at all.
Perhaps the Treos are just slow?

I do miss Mass Storage since all my Sanyo's and BB Curve had it. Loaded up movies Hancock, The Dark Night, Zohan and more in just minutes with it on my Curve. My current 800 does not have it.
Is there a program from the TP that works on the 800?

amg212 said:
Which service are you talking about? None of them seem to be labeled as mass storage...
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This is why I'm asking for the list of services. I don't have a treo pro so I cannot help without somebody to be my eyes.

Services running
Here is a list of services running on my Treo Pro (as reported by SKTools):
HTCUSBToPC Service;Stopped;UTP0:
Power Service;Unknown;AP16:
WLMService;Stopped;WLM0:
Volume Service;Unknown;VOL0:
Carrier Configurator Service;Started;PKP0:
Customization Launcher Service;Started;PLS0:
VMCService;Started;VMC0:
KeyGuardUI Service;Started;KGU0:
Alternate Keys;Started;ALK0:
taskservice;Started;TMX0:
QuickGPS app service;Started;GUX0:
PartialDisplay_dll;Started;SDM0:
USSD;Started;APP8:
STK Service;Unknown;AP15:
App Service;Unknown;APP1:
GPS Daemon Service;Started;GPC1:
Bluetooth Audio Gateway;Started;BAG0:
Software Disable Dialog Service;Unknown;SDD0:
Sync Bluetooth Server;Started;ASB0:
Software Management service;Unknown;SWM0:
Certificate Enroll Engine;Stopped;CES0:
regextdev;Started;SNA0:
DPT;Started;DPT0:
LAS;Started;LAS0:
CredentialManager;Started;CRD0:
NOTIFY;Started;NFY0:
OBEX;Started;OBX0:
Bluetooth HID Loader;Started;BHL0:
sqmsvc;Started;SQM0:
Hope this helps,
John

Hey up check out the new version that supports the treo pro. Not tried it yet myself...
http://www.softick.com

This are the candidates to be stopped to see if mass storage works:
HTCUSBToPC Service;Stopped;UTP0:
WLMService;Stopped;WLM0:
Customization Launcher Service;Started;PLS0:
VMCService;Started;VMC0:
KeyGuardUI Service;Started;KGU0:
Alternate Keys;Started;ALK0:
taskservice;Started;TMX0:
App Service;Unknown;APP1:
Software Disable Dialog Service;Unknown;SDD0:
Software Management service;Unknown;SWM0:
you can try to stop each one an see how it goes

Try My Mobiler ... works well with Treo Pro.

Is the file transfer rate any better than just using ActiveSync?

amg212 said:
Is the file transfer rate any better than just using ActiveSync?
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I just gave it a shot.... I don't think there's any difference. I suspect what they did is not switch off the treo service, but simply make a virtual mass storage device and still send the data through the RNDIS protocol...
Has anyone else tried it yet?

Did this ever get figured out or is the Softick software the best bet. I just go a TP yesterday and my car radio plays music off of external hard drives so I would like this feature back. Info? Anyone???

how to sync with vista!?

how do i get the phone to recognize the music and pictures from my SD on the touchflow ?
also.. is there a way to change the clock into 12hr clock?
how do i fix my Vista computer? im trying to install .net 3.5 and it said it wont send it cuz i dont have active sync so i went to download it from microsoft then it says that it doens't work on vista? what do i do?

I believe Vista already comes with .net 3.5 installed. Active Sync is made for Windows Xp and older, for Vista, use Windows Mobile Device Center. Grab it here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-center.mspx
Touch Flow should find the music if u click library and try to explore the music from there. Also, if u put the camera to save the pics to the mem card, it creates a pic folder there, try to throw your images there.

i finally figured it out but yea its that Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 that you need to download from microsoft.
i got the photos to work by going to albums and getting the folder i put in my SD card then clicking that as my favorite..
for music its just about adding them to the library or something hah
the clock from 24 to 12hr is somewhere in settings within WM not touchflow..
but yea.. everything is good. only a little disappointed with the wifi.. or opera.. whichever is slowing it down but its fine at home.. i get full strength but we going to see how it does at school today..