Recommended Bitrate for good sound quality - Touch GSM General

Hi,
I was wondering if any of you guys know whats like the ideal bitrate of a file (especially mp3 files) before putting them onto the phone. I'm using this great software called cdex that allows me to downsize a file majorly by reducing the bitrate. But am I compromising on sound quality for space on my card by doing this? The software turns a 6MB mp3 file into like 3MB. I remember reading somewhere that most handheld devices (phones, MP3 players etc) cant play files of a bitrate higher than 80-90kbps. Meaning u cant tell the difference in sound quality after 90 kbps. Is that really true? If someone out there knows....please do let me know.
Thanks in advance

[email protected] said:
I remember reading somewhere that most handheld devices (phones, MP3 players etc) cant play files of a bitrate higher than 80-90kbps
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Man, the guy who wrote it probably was from XV century
I'm always copying the same files I have on PC, without converting or something. Just copy - paste. Elf supports SD cards up to 16 GB, so I don't think file size is a problem. If you really want to convert files, use 128 kbps, it should sound good and don't take too much space.

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Video Compression/Convert XDA Exec

I know this probably got disscused but i cant seem to find anything releated to what im going to ask if i am blind kindly guide me in the right direction.
OK I have been using Blaze Media Pro software i tried quite a few settings still unsucsseful trying to get a full 700meg 800meg AVI, MPG ect movie to compress to a nicely small and rather no video viewing loss file. So i want some people to share their settings and what software they are using. If it helps most of what i am trying to compress and covert are xvid, divx ect I am hoping you will tell me setting for diffrent types if their are any.
Thanks For Any Help Given....
I have not used the program you speak of.
However, I have spent years reencoding movies etc etc & one program that I have come across which is just the ticket for encoding movies for my Xda Exec is Pocket DivX Encoder (the commerical version of which is 'called Lathe').
If you get bored one day I highly recommend you try it out - you won't be disappointed (well I hope you won't be anyway). Oh, and I use TCPMP to play my movies, everything else I tried came a poor second.
Andy
Ehhhh..... Ehhhh.. mmmmm..... what settings are you using i downloded pocket Divx and i was trying the VGA one E800. These things still take along time to convert if you was to covert 800meg file how long does it take. I was hoping a full screen decent sound and good compression please let me know what settings.
P.S i am using the TCPMP, i think the windows one is absoultley crap still trying to get into the ROM to remove that crap aswell as File Explorer. Ahh well thats another stroy.
I use PocketDVDStudio with the DivX encoder and found 15frames/sec, video 149kbps and audio 96kbps gave a file size of 600Mb for a film lasting 2 hours 17mins, quality excellent. It took a lot of attempts to get the best combination for the Universal.
cheers cjb
Yo!
Setting I go for are:
The best way to conciderably reduce file size AND increase relative quality is to reduce the frame size. If you find this 'unacceptable' or shocking so to speak, concider that a VCR played on your massive (in comparison) TV at home uses an effective frame size of 352 x 288 (PAL) 352 x 240 (NTSC).
Now the Xda Exec screen size is 3.6" (@640 x 480), compared to say my TV which is 28". (Of course the Exec is viewed close up, the TV far away) - so concider a reduction factor of about 1.5 for comparitive viewing pleasure.
Hence I always use a 1/4 VGA frame size, factored by 1.5ish, and rounded such that both x&y sizes are divisible by 16 (due to the way that Mpeg4 encoding works) i.e. 256x192 {this results in a staggeringly low 16x12=192 macroblocks for the encoding process to deal with, hence very small file sizes).
Further reductions in file size can be achieved by reducing the frame rate but I'd choose 15fps as an absolute minimum.
Oh, for best quality resulting video for lowest file sizes use the XviD codec - Install the latest Koepi version for best results. Again use an absolute minimum of 3 pass encoding for best video quality results.
Finally the Audio - reduce the file size taken up by the audio stream by re-encoding to use Mono, MP3, lowest bit-rate: you won't notice the difference (apart from the stereo of couse).
Andy
BTW - the conversion process is all pretty much button clicking when I use Lathe, and a 3-pass encode usually takes under 1 1/2 to 2hrs on my 3.6Ghz beasty. Hell this program even encodes straight from DVD source!!!!
hi ppl! I use the Smartmovie 3.11 for pocket pc, is good
Pocket DVD Studio
cjb said:
I use PocketDVDStudio with the DivX encoder and found 15frames/sec, video 149kbps and audio 96kbps gave a file size of 600Mb for a film lasting 2 hours 17mins, quality excellent. It took a lot of attempts to get the best combination for the Universal.
cheers cjb
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Hi, Can Any one give me the Pocket DVD Studio full version so that i can split and convert my Video from MPEG to Avi for pocket pc. It has so many good features like remove Black screen from Movie.
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Movies on Vario

Is it possible to reduce the file size of a DivX etc without any quality lost?
im sure its possible because the screen size difference... im guessing if the files are encoded at a reduced pixel size etc then wont this result in a much smaller file size??
im guessing this will work :?
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=972
I use Flaskmpeg and reduce mpg files to around 200-300mb and 352*288pixels. These seem to run fine with TCPMP media player.
twojags, thanks for that mate
Another way around it is "DVD to PocketPC", I've used it to great effect on my iPAQ It'll just play straight on media player, no messing.
http://www.makayama.com/dvdtopocketpc.html

can this phone play .mp3 that are 24kbps?

I have a normal of audio files for work, and would like to have them avaialble on my phone for use, but they play in the wmp and coreplayer really high and garbled, is there a solution to be able to play these files at normal levels, ideally with the headphones if that helps?
the HD should have no problem playing a 24kbps .mp3 file as most songs are atleast 128kbps and going up to 512kbps. Have you tried playing these files on a PC with good results? It might be that the files themselves are garbled since 24kbps is really low audio quality (especially in mp3 format).
yeah even 64kbit/Sec mp3 is very bad
I think he means mp3s with 24 bit audio stream (normal mp3s are 16bit), personally i dont have any to test do you have a sample you can provide us?
they play fine on the pc, but that i guess has much better audio capabilities?
i will get a sampe this evening when home from work.
i dont know if it would be a hard ware limitation, or a programme that is needed to "upscale" the quality?
i havent tried using a .mp3 editor to save them as a higher quality, as they are large files (in length,) so the size needs to be kept down
will upload later,
Thanks
I did not know it was possible to upscale a .mp3......to me that should produce the same quality but in a larger file...which is certainly not upscaling but wasting space (what I always thought that an mp3 did was cut off very high/low frequencies and then use a compression algorithm on what remains, hence why a 45mb .wav becomes a 4.5mb .mp3). The HD has more than enough umph to play the 24kbps .mp3 and so I'm very confused as to why you're getting such poor results. Hopefully once you paste a sample file, it will all get resolved.
It isn't possible to upscale a mp3. You'd only be changing the bitrate, increasing the size and not adding to sound quality. Cause a mp3 is in some way a compressed (or ripped, however you want it) file, the lost data in compression cannot be retrieved. 24kbps is awfully low.

convert soundfiles/video for kaiser???

Which program do i need to convert soundfiles on my computer to my tytn2 and also videos???!
it plays most the formats the pc does
no need to convert unless you have storage formats on your
pc and can't find a player for your pda which play them
What type of files are you trying to play? Like rudegar said it should play pretty much anything. You may also be interested in a music/video player program called CorePlayer.
i got
latest harry potter, transformer.
Thats in *.avi, in my laptop i use vlcplayer to se it but when i copy those files to my kaiser i want to convert and it always taking more than 8hours before it's finished.
saturn75 said:
latest harry potter, transformer.
Thats in *.avi, in my laptop i use vlcplayer to se it but when i copy those files to my kaiser i want to convert and it always taking more than 8hours before it's finished.
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Coreplayer shoul play most of the video files, link below :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W54LB7XQ
"when i copy those files to my kaiser i want to convert and it always taking more than 8hours before it's finished."
is that using the SD mode connection or just activesync file sync?
because the later is not a good way to do that
also if the movies is in a high res they may not play too well so
reencoding them in the res of the kaisers screen would be a good idea
okey
but my sd adapter dont work...
both films are in good quality but what size shall i choose??? so it fits my kaiser screen?
saturn75 said:
but my sd adapter dont work...
both films are in good quality but what size shall i choose??? so it fits my kaiser screen?
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Pocketdivxencoder works best for pocket pc n choose pda when it opens up (320x240 resolution)
Link : http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/EN_index.htm
Try
erightsoft - Super
search google or in this forums for best settings pending on your prefences for audio/video you can probably get a 700mb file down to about 150mb with decent quality. This has been discussed a couple times already in these forums, use the search I think I posted my settings once.
super is free but latest builds have been buggy see if you can find an earlier version, right now i personally use "Any video converter pro" compressed a 2gb divx file to a 565mb mp4 file(just so i can use on Ipod or other phones)
settings for that was
codec Mpeg4
size 320x240
vbitrate 512
vframerate 15
audio codec aac
abitrate 32
sample rate 11025
they have about 30 settings built in, but I like these settings, the videos have played on a behold, instinct, my tilt and wing, nokia 5300, and my ipod so pretty good compatibility. hope this helps. Aloha

Best way to convert long recorded lecture(wav) to mp3

Best way to convert long recorded lecture(wav) to mp3
Finally, found a good recorder which flawlessly records my long lectures and easy transfer to pc. App name : yovisoft recorder.
But size of the recording is huge, 300mb for 2.30 hours lectures. And it gets too heavy on my sd card.
I tried audicity software to convert the wav to mp3 which gave me 200 mb mp3 file. Still huge, isn't it.
Than I directly copied wav to my lumia via mtp. As soon as i copied it prompted to convert. I selected yes, it gave 14mb file but it very dull quality.
I don't have deep knowledge of sounds/frequency/bitrates, please gave me best way of good quality and low in size (up to 25~50mb) way to convert. I have 16gb sd card.
Quick questions
1. Which is best audio format for hearing recorded lectures.
2. Which bitrates-frequency will be ideal for recorded lectures.
3. Any direct software on pc, dedicated for such jobs?
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Try audacity. It is a good converter between various formats.
He tried (and misspelled) Audacity, but he clearly didn't know how to use it because he got a huge file. Set the quality of the created file to something like 64kbps (if you use constant bitrate MP3 for voice, that's probably good enough, although MP3 isn't great for voice) and probably mono instead of stereo (halves the size, at the cost of losing the difference between right and left channels if those are present to begin with).
Actually, the fact that over two hours of uncompressed audio was only 300MB is *very* suspicious. For perspective, an audio CD (which is uncompressed, much like WAV) is only 72 minutes of audio (half of what you're trying to store) for roughly 700MB of data. Storing the amount of audio you're talking about at the quality of a CD would take about 1.5GB, not 300MB. Making it mono instead of stereo would halve that, but you're still talking a factor of 2.5x compression that isn't accounted for. Either the recording quality is very poor, or it's already compressed.
Well, the default lame encoding properties offer pretty good compression rate.
He either:
a) didn't have WAV as the original file format
b) Didn't convert to mp3 but to some lossless format.
c)messed up with the lame encoder properties.
hint: usually, bigger numbers tend to generate bigger files. The only exception is the compression rate, which only appears for lossless codecs.
Both of you guys (#2 #3) are genius.
Than thanks for understanding my typo @GoodDayToDie.
I use yovisoft recorder as i said, it gives me wav file, i dint knew all what you detected and conveyed me.
I need time to understand as my background is Accountancy Finance and Taxation.
I will do R&D and revert asap.
Thank you, i found exactly what i was looking for. Stay connected please.
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I use audiorecorder pro it records to compressed format aac.
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rumpelst said:
I use audiorecorder pro it records to compressed format aac.
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is it stable to record long lectures? About 3 hours.
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DBZo07 said:
is it stable to record long lectures? About 3 hours.
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I'm not shure about 3 hours, but it recorded without problem 1,5 hour which was something about 60 Mb. Than you have three options to share:
By creating a file server, uploading to skydrive or saving it to a phone music library and than usual way of sharing files with pc. You can try this app without paying. I'm not shure if it is stable on gdr3 as I'm waiting on my official update for Lumia 920.
Free version fails in long recording, it doesn't even show last recording.
Yovisoft is only the working one. But strange format and size.
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Try Wavepad Sound Editor. You would be able to trim any unnecessary parts and when you save it, you can set the bitrate that you want it to be.
DBZo07 said:
Free version fails in long recording, it doesn't even show last recording.
Yovisoft is only the working one. But strange format and size.
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There was an update to Instant Incognito Recorder that adressed some bugs (crashes, etc), you can try it again and see if it works, also the dev. added an option to save to music collection so you can copy recordings via USB cable.

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