Difference between pulling the battery and long-press hangup? - G1 General

Presumably the long-press of the hangup button won't do much if the system is hung (though I have yet to see that happen) but is using that method to reboot different than yanking the battery? It appears to do a full reboot and is presumably more graceful than the battery-pull.

Holding the power button and pressing the power off dialog is better than pulling the battery. Pulling the battery should only be done in extreme cases. Think of it as a computer if you pull the plug on your computer right now you will probably end up with some error that windows will have to fix or halfed entered entries in the program your working on.
This is why it looks to be more graceful. Because it can perform shutdown scripts that can do things like wiping the cache and telling the OS when it turns on that everything is clean.

Yeah, I was inspired to post when I read Brooklynite's post about GPS/Map oddities.
But there was also someone on HoFo who complained that his Messaging app will slow down after a few days and the only way he has been able to fix it is by popping the battery. I said "That's weird...turning the phone off and on doesn't fix it?" and the poster said it did not.
I didn't feel like belaboring the point but I had a feeling he did not know the difference between standby and off.
So I figured I'd ask here where people are a little more tech-savvy to figure out if either there's something I don't know about the long-press or if maybe people just didnt RTFM and don't even know it exists

I'd also agree that turning it off the "right" way is better, but pulling the battery probably won't harm the phone at all either.

cboy007 said:
I'd also agree that turning it off the "right" way is better, but pulling the battery probably won't harm the phone at all either.
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That isn't always true it all depends on what you are doing... while it might not harm it permanently doing a wipe of the phone isn't fun either. You pull the battery in the middle of it doing something like saving your settings and you may have some horrible issues.

tidy rebooting method
I su to my fixed rc30 # shell (1 one was bad, it killed my ability to root then I just type "reboot" I tried shutdown -r now but shutdown ain't on board, is it in "busybox"?
I'm askin cause the reboot command seems to kill the thing. To fast to not be much better than pullin the power, maybe I'm wrong I'm no linuxatarion but I know some basics (other than X, I'm not the linux xpert who's afraid of commandlines
If somebody can figure what's happenning when "reboot" is exe'd locally and see how down and dirty it is or isn't or if there is a more graceful to reeboot dis biatch
Bhang, bang, bhang!

bhang said:
I su to my fixed rc30 # shell (1 one was bad, it killed my ability to root then I just type "reboot" I tried shutdown -r now but shutdown ain't on board, is it in "busybox"?
I'm askin cause the reboot command seems to kill the thing. To fast to not be much better than pullin the power, maybe I'm wrong I'm no linuxatarion but I know some basics (other than X, I'm not the linux xpert who's afraid of commandlines
If somebody can figure what's happenning when "reboot" is exe'd locally and see how down and dirty it is or isn't or if there is a more graceful to reeboot dis biatch
Bhang, bang, bhang!
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I will check it out this weekend.

Related

I need some serious help.

My Nexus one won't turn on. I tried flashing RADIO 32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2 that I downloaded from Modaco.
After it failed to install showing the error message like
"Multiple Radio images"
and a few others I try to reboot it.
when trying to reboot it there showed a picture of a android and a orangish arrow and a box.
Help...I think I bricked it.
Help?
Please?
Can you get into boot loader? Hold down the track ball, then power on, and keep holding down the track ball...
Also, try holding down the "volume down" toggle button while powering on if the track ball method doesn't work...
If both don't do anything but take you to that same screen, let it sit on that screen for a bit, say 10 minutes just in case...
If still nothing, see what happens when you plug your phone into your computer with the data cable, is it recognized? If so, can you get ADB to recognize it?
Jackasaur said:
Help?
Please?
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can u get to the recovery image? if u can, its not bricked.
well I tried plugging it into the computer, I tried the wall charger, and nothing seems to work. The LED doesn't come on, and the button combination doesn't work. So I think it's dead for good. :C Before everything got screwed All I saw was a box and an arrow pointing at a android. Which I think meant it was unboxing. I then thought it froze so I tried to take the battery out, and after that it didn't turn on anymore. No LED, no recovery, no nothing. :C Quite sad.
Why the f are so many people intent on taking their batteries out while the phone is updating? I'm not saying that led to the bricking...but it probably didn't help.
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well I tried plugging it into the computer, I tried the wall charger, and nothing seems to work. The LED doesn't come on, and the button combination doesn't work. So I think it's dead for good. :C Before everything got screwed All I saw was a box and an arrow pointing at a android. Which I think meant it was unboxing. I then thought it froze so I tried to take the battery out, and after that it didn't turn on anymore. No LED, no recovery, no nothing. :C Quite sad.
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This part takes a few minutes. I am not totally sure what is happening at this point but I'm assuming it's not good to remove battery during this. Mine sat on that screen for a few min and then finished.
Try to boot up with volume down button held. Then use volume arrows to choose recovery and hit power.
uansari1 said:
Why the f are so many people intent on taking their batteries out while the phone is updating? I'm not saying that led to the bricking...but it probably didn't help.
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Everyone expects everything to be instant these days... "Uh oh! The screen isn't doing anything, it's been at least 20 seconds! I could just wait and leave it for a few minutes like all the guides say to do. Or I could take my battery out...how could that hurt, right?"
For me it took a good 3-4 minutes on the screen with the arrow and the box.
Anyways, if you can't get to the recovery then you might be buying a new N1.
ahh it took like 5 minutes for me, I have to admit I was a little worried since you dont see status bars or anything, but like said, the guides warn for this.
I cant imagine that removing the battery broke it though, he should be able to load a recovery image
I feel sad for him so bumping
Bleh. I'll just have to wait and see. I'll contact HTC.
tomsan84 said:
ahh it took like 5 minutes for me, I have to admit I was a little worried since you dont see status bars or anything, but like said, the guides warn for this.
I cant imagine that removing the battery broke it though, he should be able to load a recovery image
I feel sad for him so bumping
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If you remove the battery during the period he did, which is when the phone is actually flashing the radio ROM, yes removing the battery can and likely did break it for him. There are 2 ways to brick an Android device, while flashing a radio ROM and while flashing an SPL...
OP, have you tried any of the button combos we have recommended? Have you tried putting your battery in the phone, then without turning it on, putting it on the charger to see if it can charge the battery at least (you said it wasn't even turning on, which is likely because you have a dead battery)... charge the battery first, then try the button combo's we recommended.
And please, when you report back, and not to sound like an ass, do so clearly and systematically (I can't tell from your posts what did or didn't happen, and whether you tried anything we suggested, nor what the current state of the phone is)... so, please use this format to make it clear to us trying to help:
Battery: Charged or Wouldn't Charge (LED will come on if it is charging)
Trackball+Power: Booted into boot loader, yay! or Went to the damn box
Volume down+Power: Booted into fast boot! or Went to the damn box
And remember, you have to hold down the button, either trackball or volume down, then press the power and keep holding down the trackball or volume down until it either goes to boot loader or it goes to the box screen... you might want to even wait for a minute on the box screen(if it goes to that) while holding down the button to make sure it can't get into boot loader...
Okay so I took the battery out, put it back in, and tried charging it. The Battery LED did not come on, so I'm guessing it's not charging.
The Trackball+Power did not work.
The Volume down+Power did not work.
I think I most likely broke it, due to the fact that I took the battery out while it was flashing the radio ROM onto the phone. I kinda did it on a impulse, which is my fault. So do you think it'd be possible if I did contact HTC they'd send me a swap, and not be able to make my phone work or turn on, and everything will go on as if I "broke" it and not unlock it or anything?
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Okay so I took the battery out, put it back in, and tried charging it. The Battery LED did not come on, so I'm guessing it's not charging.
The Trackball+Power did not work.
The Volume down+Power did not work.
I think I most likely broke it, due to the fact that I took the battery out while it was flashing the radio ROM onto the phone. I kinda did it on a impulse, which is my fault. So do you think it'd be possible if I did contact HTC they'd send me a swap, and not be able to make my phone work or turn on, and everything will go on as if I "broke" it and not unlock it or anything?
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It sounds like you have a true brick... disruption of the radio ROM flashing causes lots of bricks, and did so for you.
It is pretty common, at least with T-Mobile with the G1, to call them up and tell them your phone asked you to update, and while updating it froze and won't turn on or charge anymore. Not sure if HTC will handle it the same as T-Mobile did, but if they do they will just send you a new unit, you send the old one back, and you are back up and running... they might ask that you send it to them first, but there is no way for them to test if it was rooted/unlock boot loader if it can't be powered on, so you should be fine.
Sweet. So I called HTC, and they said they'll repair it, but I asked for a swap instead, so I'll be getting one by either Wednesday, or Thursday. Good stuff! I'll tell you all how it goes. :] Now I am stuck with my Nokia N95. Thanks for all your help.
Did you tell them you have an unlocked bootloader?
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Did you tell them you have an unlocked bootloader?
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he doesnt have 2 tell em
lightforce said:
he doesnt have 2 tell em
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Yeah, he doesn't have to tell them... but they don't have to cover his phone either.
If they find out it's unlocked after the fact, they can charge you to repair the phone.
How exactly will they know he unlocked the bootloader if the device cannot even properly turn on, unless htc has other methods of being able to "restore" the phone, then he should be rather ok. Am I not looking into this deeply enough? Can the phone turn on with a new battery or something? Does HTC have alternatives ways of checking?
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How exactly will they know he unlocked the bootloader if the device cannot even properly turn on, unless htc has other methods of being able to "restore" the phone, then he should be rather ok. Am I not looking into this deeply enough? Can the phone turn on with a new battery or something?
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That's my point man.. I don't know. All they have to see is that open padlock and they can deny the claim.

Possible brick/Problem

I'm not positive what exactly happened with my phone, I was syncing up my info so that I could flash a new rom and after it had all finished, my phone had froze. So I attempted to restart my phone and now it doesn't turn on unless it is connected to a source of power (charge/cpu). It attempts to start up and gives me the standard t-mobile load up logo and recognizes the rom and radio but then continues to restart itself. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
Hmm just boot it into bootloader mode, run a task 29.. and flash a new rom of your choice.it might work..
to get into boot loader hold down volume down while pressing power..
Thanks. I tried and it was successful without a SIM card but when I put it back in, the same thing started happening again so I tried with the SIM card and no luck. I'm still getting the T-Mo start up and restarts itself over.
check the battery connectors.more than one person has bent one of them when pulling the battery with pretty much identical results that you are seeing.
if you have been using the push reset button make sure it hasn't caught under the body and is staying pressed.
it was the battery connectors, just had to push the battery in a different way. thanks a lot for the help.
samsamuel said:
check the battery connectors.more than one person has bent one of them when pulling the battery with pretty much identical results seals you are seeing.
if you have been using the push reset burin make sure it hasn't caught under the body and is staying pressed.
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good call Sam, I was thinking the same thing. I guess we can add one more to the list where that was the root issue
I'm wondering how many more people are having unresolved issues where this is the cause...I'm gonna start including it in my regular troubleshooting steps for all reboot-loop issues at least

[HELP] My Note rebooted in to some wierd factory mode

Could anyone with knowledge tell me if it is safe to reboot my Galaxy Note when this image is shown?
(see relevant images in the attachements)
A small history to this incident:
While I was at work my Note had started the "in car"-app (don't know what it is called, but it is activaded by voice I think). Which I found a bit odd, but I closed it down. After a few minutes the app started by it self again and at which point I decided to reboot my phone as some software was obviously screwed up.
Said and done I rebooted but instead of getting the regular boot my phone instead entered Factory Mode with the message "Downloading... Do not turn of target!!"
This of course scares me a bit so I haven't had the gut to turn it off or reboot.
Is this something that can be fixed or do I have to return it for service?
/ tonii
toniimirrkare said:
Could anyone with knowledge tell me if it is safe to reboot my Galaxy Note when this image is shown?
(see relevant images in the attachements)
A small history to this incident:
While I was at work my Note had started the "in car"-app (don't know what it is called, but it is activaded by voice I think). Which I found a bit odd, but I closed it down. After a few minutes the app started by it self again and at which point I decided to reboot my phone as some software was obviously screwed up.
Said and done I rebooted but instead of getting the regular boot my phone instead entered Factory Mode with the message "Downloading... Do not turn of target!!"
This of course scares me a bit so I haven't had the gut to turn it off or reboot.
Is this something that can be fixed or do I have to return it for service?
/ tonii
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Mate, that's just "Download Mode" used for downloading new firmwares on the phone, used in Samsung services as well.
You access that by pressing Volume Down (or up, not sure) + Home + Power. Just pull out the battery and try to reboot it again. It's nothing to worry about, you might have hit the buttons by mistake or if not just some weird Note act-up...
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Mate, that's just "Download Mode" used for downloading new firmwares on the phone, used in Samsung services as well.
You access that by pressing Volume Down (or up, not sure) + Home + Power. Just pull out the battery and try to reboot it again. It's nothing to worry about, you might have hit the buttons by mistake or if not just some weird Note act-up...
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Exactly. Nothing to be worried about there unless it keeps happening without interaction from you then there be something going on.
toniimirrkare said:
Is this something that can be fixed or do I have to return it for service?
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had a little chuckle at this
eug3n91 said:
Mate, that's just "Download Mode" used for downloading new firmwares on the phone, used in Samsung services as well.
You access that by pressing Volume Down (or up, not sure) + Home + Power. Just pull out the battery and try to reboot it again. It's nothing to worry about, you might have hit the buttons by mistake or if not just some weird Note act-up...
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Oh. I feel a bit silly right now ^_^
Don't think I hit the "home"-button, but i'm starting to believe it's a bit messed up anyway since the "car"-app is starting by it self. it has happened a couple of times now. I'll wait and see if it happens again, and if so I'll try a factory reset.
Thanks for the quick reply!
/ tonii
toniimirrkare said:
Oh. I feel a bit silly right now ^_^
Don't think I hit the "home"-button, but i'm starting to believe it's a bit messed up anyway since the "car"-app is starting by it self. it has happened a couple of times now. I'll wait and see if it happens again, and if so I'll try a factory reset.
Thanks for the quick reply!
/ tonii
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That's a bit weird with the car-app, although part of the beauty of Android for nerds like me is solving bugs like that A factory reset should do the trick.
And if you're feeling brave and have plenty of time on your hands, you should start reading about flashing other ROMs, there are a lot of users here and guides who will walk you through it and explain everything you need Once you get something custom on your note, stock firmware will seem utterly unworthy
Best of luck solving your problem
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had a little chuckle at this
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Heh, good for you
I'm not that experienced with Samsung, and by the text on the phone I thought it could be bricked if I rebooted
eug3n91 said:
That's a bit weird with the car-app, although part of the beauty of Android for nerds like me is solving bugs like that A factory reset should do the trick.
And if you're feeling brave and have plenty of time on your hands, you should start reading about flashing other ROMs, there are a lot of users here and guides who will walk you through it and explain everything you need Once you get something custom on your note, stock firmware will seem utterly unworthy
Best of luck solving your problem
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Thank you!
I'll consider trying other roms when and if I get tired of the one Samsung provides!
Have just had it about two months, and coming from the HTC Wildfire this phone is a beast! ^_^
eug3n91 said:
That's a bit weird with the car-app, although part of the beauty of Android for nerds like me is solving bugs like that A factory reset should do the trick.
And if you're feeling brave and have plenty of time on your hands, you should start reading about flashing other ROMs, there are a lot of users here and guides who will walk you through it and explain everything you need Once you get something custom on your note, stock firmware will seem utterly unworthy
Best of luck solving your problem
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:/ I had an issue similar to this with the car mode constantly opening up, and it was thinking it was charging when it wasn't, it wouldn't connect to the computer via usb, etc. Ended up being a bad USB port but Amazon shipped me a new one for free. Hopefully that's not the case for you, but if it starts to get worse... ( I had mine for only two and a half months)
toniimirrkare said:
Oh. I feel a bit silly right now ^_^
Don't think I hit the "home"-button, but i'm starting to believe it's a bit messed up anyway since the "car"-app is starting by it self. it has happened a couple of times now. I'll wait and see if it happens again, and if so I'll try a factory reset.
Thanks for the quick reply!
/ tonii
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Don't fret just yet. Give it time so dat u strt undstanding ur fone
Remember these:
1) Press and hold Power button for about 10 secs to reset (its like a computer restart). Also called soft reset. U could do this when ur fone behaves unusually like hanging, draining too much batt, etc.
2) Vol up+Home+Power until u see the Samsung logo takes u to Recovery Mode. From here u may factory reset ur device. Also called hard reset. Do this when soft reset doesn't solve a small problem. Remember to make backups 1st.
3) Vol down+Home+Power brings u to Download mode. U may use this when u need to flash a ROM urslf (once u have read ample info abt it, be warned)
4) Two other ways to hard reset ur device:
a) Select Settings>Privacy>Factory data reset
b)From ur dialer, enter just key in *2767*3855#
StygiAn TrepidAtioN said:
Don't fret just yet. Give it time so dat u strt undstanding ur fone
Remember these:
1) Press and hold Power button for about 10 secs to reset (its like a computer restart). Also called soft reset. U could do this when ur fone behaves unusually like hanging, draining too much batt, etc.
2) Vol up+Home+Power until u see the Samsung logo takes u to Recovery Mode. From here u may factory reset ur device. Also called hard reset. Do this when soft reset doesn't solve a small problem. Remember to make backups 1st.
3) Vol down+Home+Power brings u to Download mode. U may use this when u need to flash a ROM urslf (once u have read ample info abt it, be warned)
4) Two other ways to hard reset ur device:
a) Select Settings>Privacy>Factory data reset
b)From ur dialer, enter just key in *2767*3855#
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Many thanks for the tips!
Much appreciated

[Q] Is it possible to retrieve files from N7 whilst dead/bricked?

Hi all
Apologies at coming on here and immediately asking for help, but....
I've had my Nexus 7 since July and have been very happy until NOW!
I seem to have been cursed with the dreaded flat battery resulting in n7 being stuck in the boot up.
I get as far as the Google and X icon but then stalls.
I've tried all the methods of long push of buttons/multiple buttons/etc but to no avail.
I can bring up the factory restore option so I know I can get it working again, but....
I have an exam in a week which foolishly had work stored for on my n7 without back up (yes fool) so....
Please is there anyway to retrieve my files via PC etc before factory resetting
All help genuinely appreciated
Mark
rooted vs unrooted (or unlocked bootloader even if not rooted) makes a huge difference in the answer.
Please state which.
Sorry about that
Not rooted.
It is absolute stock, nothing changed or added from purchase other than jellybean updates
Thanks Mark
pleading said:
Sorry about that
It is absolute stock, nothing changed or added from purchase other than jellybean updates
Thanks Mark
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I believe you are SOL in that case. Sorry.
Find someone with a Nexus 7, pop the back cover off and use their battery to boot up and retrieve your files. The back cover just pops off.
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bigbop said:
Find someone with a Nexus 7, pop the back cover off and use their battery to boot up and retrieve your files. The back cover just pops off.
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pleading mentions the battery, but then says "stalls" - not "shuts down", which is what you might expect if the battery was drained:
pleading said:
I seem to have been cursed with the dreaded flat battery resulting in n7 being stuck in the boot up.
I get as far as the Google and X icon but then stalls.
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But, bigbop could be correct if pleading meant "low battery shutdown"
One other very long shot - assuming that that the device is hung - is to see if either adb or MTP are available. Normally that happens very late in the boot & I have to imagine that he has already tried that though.
Hi again guys
Firstly thanks for not giving up on my situation!
Bad explanation by me I guess....
The battery went flat/dead (my bad)
Plugged in to charge and screen lit up again but showing the 'powering off' script
Left over night on charge, wouldn't switch on again next morning
Left on charge all day still no joy but if I try switching on whilst plugged in I first get the Google name, then the Google X but then gets 'hung' (probably a better description than freezes etc as it still pulsates the colours)
Only way to get out of this is to keep power button pressed which switches n7 off and starts the cycle again
If during the recycle I keep the volume down pressed then it accesses the option screen to recover/reboot etc
Hope this helps, and again thanks (desperate to recover course work)
Mark
Hi again
Update...
Battery is showing full now
But still same 'hung' situation
Regarding the 'ADB'
I can get to the 'apply update from ADB' option
And if I choose it states.... 'now send the package you want to apply to the device with "adb sideload <filename>"'
As always thanks for any help or suggestions
Mark
Mark,
It sounds to me like what you are describing is ADB in the stock recovery, not a ADB when the regular operating system is running. (Is that right?)
Unfortunately, the stock recovery is only good for 2 things: applying an OTA update, and doing a factory reset. Even if your tablet needed an OTA update (and it probably doesn't if it is up to date), it probably wouldn't fix the looping/wedged phenomenon: usually that is caused by stuff in the userdata partition.
Doing the stock recovery factory reset might cure the wedged/looping problem - but only if it wipes all the data from your tablet. (Including the /sdcard area too).
The only hope I held out was if your tablet was reachable via a ADB or MTP with the wedged operating system sitting there looping. Usually those facilities start up quite late in the boot sequence, however so probably you don't have that.
Sorry. I think you are still SOL when it come to retrieving files.
Thanks for the help anyway
I'm guessing that with no further responses that really is the end for my work.
Unfortunately for me personally it will mean the end off my relationship with the N7, as much as I've loved it I really can't justify the obviously common occurrence of this happening.
Thanks again all
pleading said:
Thanks for the help anyway
I'm guessing that with no further responses that really is the end for my work.
Unfortunately for me personally it will mean the end off my relationship with the N7, as much as I've loved it I really can't justify the obviously common occurrence of this happening.
Thanks again all
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I had same sort of problem N7 went flat tried to charge but would not power on
Took back panel off and disconnected battery for 10 mins reconnected battery and put back on charge
it then booted up as normal
pleading said:
Thanks for the help anyway
I'm guessing that with no further responses that really is the end for my work.
Unfortunately for me personally it will mean the end off my relationship with the N7, as much as I've loved it I really can't justify the obviously common occurrence of this happening.
Thanks again all
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Uhhh ... what?
The OP was about a tablet that you couldn't get into because
[a] it had a correctable soft-fault
you didn't want to exercise an available soft-fault recovery method because of a desire to reclaim user files not backed up
... and so far as we know the soft-fault recovery mechanism still is available to you.
How did that morph into "this is the end"?
You need to re-do your homework, perform a factory reset, and move on with your life.
You have used either software or hardware in the past haven't you? That thing isn't a toaster or a waffle-iron! No backups of important stuff? Come on!
OK, well then. Pack it up and send it to me with the charger and I'll pay for the shipping - UPS ground.
Doesn't the Nexus have a safe-boot mode?
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bigbop said:
Doesn't the Nexus have a safe-boot mode?
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Just tried right now - held the Vol-down button down continuously from about 2 secs after the Google B&W splash screen appeared until the lock screen appeared. That worked. (Stock 4.2.2)
"Safe mode" appears in the lower left corner. I had access to all the market apps (that I tried), but did not see a toast notification from StickMount after the boot - suggesting that safe mode only inhibits apps from starting on boot.
I suppose this could work (although the OP's deadline has probably come and gone) for bypassing a hung boot - but only if the hang is due to a market app that normally starts on boot.

N00b Here w/Question on Sprint LGV20 w/Dirty Santa Root (Stuck on Static!)

Hi Everyone!
Long timer lurker, first time poster!
So, I've popped into the site for years to get tips on how to root/unlock/jailbreak the various devices I have: Apple stuff, Android stuff, etc. I've got the LG V20 and as I've broken it in, I've been increasingly frustrated by the lag and bloat from all of these processes running in the background that Greenify can barely keep up with to shut down over-and-over-again...
Wait. To quote Ruby Rod: "But who CAAAAARES!?!"
I want to Root my Sprint LG V20. I followed the steps that me2151 put in his (excellent) post, step by step. Everything seemed to go fine, got TWRP installed and working, installed the Stock LS997, installed SuperSU.
But the static.
THE STATIC.
It won't go away.
I covered the entire front of the phone and put screen to sleep/woke it up. Still there.
I covered the front and restarted from scratch. Still there.
I installed AT&T H918 Konverged Kernel, then did the above. Still there.
I've started from Step 2-the end x 3 in the last 36 hours; up until 2am last night messing with it. I've searched through the forums and it sounds like folks have gotten past it, but for whatever reason my phone stubbornly isn't snapping to...
I can SEE the setup screens behind the static, like if I work from memory and swipe at the right place/time, I can get to the "set up wifi" screen but then the disruption is too great to type anything.
I hate to be "that guy" that one of you is going to respond with a link to an obvious solution to the problem, but I gotta say I'm at the end of my ability to figure this one out - could use some help, please, thanks (and sorry for being dense, in advance)...!
I'm not sure what is causing this problem for you - but the only advice I can offer is to flash werewolf 1.0 kernel. While some/most prefer the stock kernel for responsiveness and battery life - I do flash werewolf 1.0 when I'm playing with a new rom and want to see what's going on behind the static.
Werewolf-h91x-1.0-Albatross.zip
Lock your screen
Then cover proximity sensor to make 2nd screen sleep. Once sceen is sleeping unlock screen and it will be normal. Easier way to get by it is lock screen then turn phone face down... Walk away for 5 min.
After you get in the 1st time. Set 2nd screen off when main screen is off and a simple lock and unlock of phone will remove static.
And yes it will always be there on stock rom and stock kernel. Custom kernel will fix static but break other things..
Aosp has no static.
Ohhhh, okay....
First: thank you both for your responses - after reading and re-reading your posts, I feel like I know you! Either of you wanna be a godparent? If so, lemme know and I'll PM you when I have kids. And/or get married.
Anywho, that may be my issue, Team DevDigitel - patience (I was putting the screen to sleep with my hand over the sensor and waking it back up in seconds...I'll try 5 minutes to see what happens. Will report back (it's currently re-flashing).
In the meantime, the weirder parts of this exercise have been this:
-when I flash using the stocks from your post (Team DevDigitel) or the original link from me2151, I get the static that won't go away (which, again, sounds like it's my fault)
-when I wipe and flash and install LS997-deODEXd-signed (the one that I read WASN'T based on a Sprint ROM, but a US ROM), no static, but no phone connectivity - blank everything - no MEID, etc.
Curious - when/if I can get through the static, will that connectivity issue still be there, or will it be repaired because it is indeed based on a Stock Sprint ROM vs a generic US one?
Also: when I boot up, the static is on the screen so much that I can't really tell when it's done and at the sprint setup screens (language, etc.)...if I turn the phone over the 5+ minutes, will it still go to sleep that early into the process, or just freeze there?
Thanks again, guys - really appreciate it and I'm learning a lot from reading your exchanges!
:highfive::good::fingers-crossed:
Sigh, tried it - no joy. Steps:
1) Through TWRP, wiped cache, dalvik, system, data, and even internal storage
2) Flashed TeamDevV7.5C.zip off of Ext SD, then wiped dalvik/cache
3) Pressed "back" to Main TWRP and Installed SuperSU-v2.79-201612051815.zip, then wiped dalvik/cache
4) Pressed "back" to Main TWRP and Installed konverged-0.3-v20-h918-7.0..zip, then wiped dalvik/cache
5) Pressed "back" to Main TWRP and Rebooted to System
6) Once System loaded, static across entire screen
7) After it seemed like the screen had gotten to the point of the Sprint installer, behind the lines (I can tell because if I tap the lower right corner, the screen seems to change...until I get to what I think is where it asks to connect to a wifi and the keyboard pops up, but can't tell anything)
8) Tapped power key once to put phone to sleep
9) Put phone face-down on desk
10) Waited 10 minutes like that
11) Tapped power key again while phone still face down on desk
12) Turned phone over, still had static on first and second screens
13) Repeated from #9, but instead of 10 minutes, waited 20 minutes
14) Turned phone back over, and first screen stayed black/nothing, while second screen stayed static
15) Pressed power button multiple times (from 1 tap, 2 taps, 3 taps, 1/2/3/ long presses), and nothing
16) Took battery out and put back in
17) Static screen reloads again
I think I screwed something up somewhere - the sensor trick seems to be working for everyone but me - is there any way to deactivate the second screen via fastboot,or something super-clever like that...?
raenemaker said:
Sigh, tried it - no joy. Steps:
1) Through TWRP, wiped cache, dalvik, system, data, and even internal storage
2) Flashed TeamDevV7.5C.zip off of Ext SD, then wiped dalvik/cache
3) Pressed "back" to Main TWRP and Installed SuperSU-v2.79-201612051815.zip, then wiped dalvik/cache
4) Pressed "back" to Main TWRP and Installed konverged-0.3-v20-h918-7.0..zip, then wiped dalvik/cache
5) Pressed "back" to Main TWRP and Rebooted to System
6) Once System loaded, static across entire screen
7) After it seemed like the screen had gotten to the point of the Sprint installer, behind the lines (I can tell because if I tap the lower right corner, the screen seems to change...until I get to what I think is where it asks to connect to a wifi and the keyboard pops up, but can't tell anything)
8) Tapped power key once to put phone to sleep
9) Put phone face-down on desk
10) Waited 10 minutes like that
11) Tapped power key again while phone still face down on desk
12) Turned phone over, still had static on first and second screens
13) Repeated from #9, but instead of 10 minutes, waited 20 minutes
14) Turned phone back over, and first screen stayed black/nothing, while second screen stayed static
15) Pressed power button multiple times (from 1 tap, 2 taps, 3 taps, 1/2/3/ long presses), and nothing
16) Took battery out and put back in
17) Static screen reloads again
I think I screwed something up somewhere - the sensor trick seems to be working for everyone but me - is there any way to deactivate the second screen via fastboot,or something super-clever like that...?
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This may be a long shot, but when you pull the battery, do the hard reset with the volume down button held down with the power button until you see the LG logo, then let up for a second on the power button while still holding the volume down, then press down on the power button with the volume down still pressed. You should get the white reset screen--answer YES twice with the volume down button and selecting with the power button. It should boot back into TWRP. Hit REBOOT, then SYSTEM. I honestly don't think you're waiting long enough, even though it might feel like you've been waiting awhile. I know it sounds silly but you really should just put the phone down and find something else to do for a good 15-20 minutes at least.
OK I'm down!
bgibson72 said:
This may be a long shot, but when you pull the battery, do the hard reset with the volume down button held down with the power button until you see the LG logo, then let up for a second on the power button while still holding the volume down, then press down on the power button with the volume down still pressed. You should get the white reset screen--answer YES twice with the volume down button and selecting with the power button. It should boot back into TWRP. Hit REBOOT, then SYSTEM. I honestly don't think you're waiting long enough, even though it might feel like you've been waiting awhile. I know it sounds silly but you really should just put the phone down and find something else to do for a good 15-20 minutes at least.
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OK thanks - I'll try that!
Sorry, just for clarity...
bgibson72 said:
This may be a long shot, but when you pull the battery, do the hard reset with the volume down button held down with the power button until you see the LG logo, then let up for a second on the power button while still holding the volume down, then press down on the power button with the volume down still pressed. You should get the white reset screen--answer YES twice with the volume down button and selecting with the power button. It should boot back into TWRP. Hit REBOOT, then SYSTEM. I honestly don't think you're waiting long enough, even though it might feel like you've been waiting awhile. I know it sounds silly but you really should just put the phone down and find something else to do for a good 15-20 minutes at least.
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In case that sounded like I hadn't tried that, I DID do the hard reset to start with and then Did what I listed above, But I didn't wait for 20 minutes.
I'm gonna up the ante, though - because I needed my phone for work, I had Sprint re-provision (if that's the right word) my previous phone as my primary number until I can resolve the LG v20 into stability so I can actually do the procedure and literally leave it all day (or longer) to process. Will circle back!
raenemaker said:
Sigh, tried it - no joy. Steps:
1) Through TWRP, wiped cache, dalvik, system, data, and even internal storage
2) Flashed TeamDevV7.5C.zip off of Ext SD, then wiped dalvik/cache
3) Pressed "back" to Main TWRP and Installed SuperSU-v2.79-201612051815.zip, then wiped dalvik/cache
4) Pressed "back" to Main TWRP and Installed konverged-0.3-v20-h918-7.0..zip, then wiped dalvik/cache
5) Pressed "back" to Main TWRP and Rebooted to System
6) Once System loaded, static across entire screen
7) After it seemed like the screen had gotten to the point of the Sprint installer, behind the lines (I can tell because if I tap the lower right corner, the screen seems to change...until I get to what I think is where it asks to connect to a wifi and the keyboard pops up, but can't tell anything)
8) Tapped power key once to put phone to sleep
9) Put phone face-down on desk
10) Waited 10 minutes like that
11) Tapped power key again while phone still face down on desk
12) Turned phone over, still had static on first and second screens
13) Repeated from #9, but instead of 10 minutes, waited 20 minutes
14) Turned phone back over, and first screen stayed black/nothing, while second screen stayed static
15) Pressed power button multiple times (from 1 tap, 2 taps, 3 taps, 1/2/3/ long presses), and nothing
16) Took battery out and put back in
17) Static screen reloads again
I think I screwed something up somewhere - the sensor trick seems to be working for everyone but me - is there any way to deactivate the second screen via fastboot,or something super-clever like that...?
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Wow... Did you read my op before doing all of what you did?
Stop at step 2 and reboot and wait.
The knoverged kernel is broken and causes sceen to not work.
Why are you flashing supersu over my 7.5?
One has it built in and 1 uses magisksu..
No reason to do this and its causing issues.
Start over..
Can you message me via hangouts?
[email protected]
Or telegram app? Team DevDigitel
This isnt as hard as your making it.
And the us996 rom is broken without using the konverged kernel. But youll still have some issues.
Static will always be there on the ls997 unless a dev can help sort the boot.img issue with me
Aosp roms wont have static. Maybe your proximity sensor is messed up? You really need to do this from a clean slate. Im willing to video chat and walk you through it.
raenemaker said:
In case that sounded like I hadn't tried that, I DID do the hard reset to start with and then Did what I listed above, But I didn't wait for 20 minutes.
I'm gonna up the ante, though - because I needed my phone for work, I had Sprint re-provision (if that's the right word) my previous phone as my primary number until I can resolve the LG v20 into stability so I can actually do the procedure and literally leave it all day (or longer) to process. Will circle back!
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OK, sounds good. Although you shouldn't need all day, it's probably not a bad idea. I think a lot of people get panicky, myself included, when they can't get over the hump of getting the phone to boot and get through the static screen. It sounds like you are so close to getting there. Please do let us know how you fared...
EDIT: I'll agree with @midmadn and say that you probably should flash a kernel specifically for the LS997 like Werewolf or the stock kernel. I get a little apprehensive about flashing anything non-LS997 specific. (BAD memories.../shiver/)
bgibson72 said:
OK, sounds good. Although you shouldn't need all day, it's probably not a bad idea. I think a lot of people get panicky, myself included, when they can't get over the hump of getting the phone to boot and get through the static screen. It sounds like you are so close to getting there. Please do let us know how you fared...
EDIT: I'll agree with @midmadn and say that you probably should flash a kernel specifically for the LS997 like Werewolf or the stock kernel. I get a little apprehensive about flashing anything non-LS997 specific. (BAD memories.../shiver/)
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GAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAA!
THANKS GUYS! Werewolf did it! I can SEEEEEE!!!
Thanks so much!!!! Christ, I thought this thing was a brick, lol!!!
Team DevDigitel said:
Wow... Did you read my op before doing all of what you did?
Stop at step 2 and reboot and wait.
The knoverged kernel is broken and causes sceen to not work.
Why are you flashing supersu over my 7.5?
One has it built in and 1 uses magisksu..
No reason to do this and its causing issues.
Start over..
Can you message me via hangouts?
[email protected]
Or telegram app? Team DevDigitel
This isnt as hard as your making it.
And the us996 rom is broken without using the konverged kernel. But youll still have some issues.
Static will always be there on the ls997 unless a dev can help sort the boot.img issue with me
Aosp roms wont have static. Maybe your proximity sensor is messed up? You really need to do this from a clean slate. Im willing to video chat and walk you through it.
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Hi - OK, I think the werewolf zip (mentioned below) fixed it, but honestly I have phone service on my old device now, so I can try the above again.
My apologies, I didn't realize I didn't need to install Super SU on top of your ROM (I was erring on the side of overkill, which probably (definitely) glitched things further) -
I'll wipe clean, reinstall, leave off Super SU and konverged and just install 7.5 clean and report back.
Thanks!
raenemaker said:
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Hi - OK, I think the werewolf zip (mentioned below) fixed it, but honestly I have phone service on my old device now, so I can try the above again.
My apologies, I didn't realize I didn't need to install Super SU on top of your ROM (I was erring on the side of overkill, which probably (definitely) glitched things further) -
I'll wipe clean, reinstall, leave off Super SU and konverged and just install 7.5 clean and report back.
Thanks!
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just a heads up if you DONT want to use the werewolf kernel. i have noticed if you cover your proximity sensor with your finger its possible to register a touch on the 2nd screen which will cause it not to sleep. What i recommend is turning main screen off with power button the placing the phone screen down on a flat surface that wont register a touch(i usually use a table with a piece of paper) and it works 99% of the time.
It Worked! But then...
me2151 said:
just a heads up if you DONT want to use the werewolf kernel. i have noticed if you cover your proximity sensor with your finger its possible to register a touch on the 2nd screen which will cause it not to sleep. What i recommend is turning main screen off with power button the placing the phone screen down on a flat surface that wont register a touch(i usually use a table with a piece of paper) and it works 99% of the time.
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Hi - first: thanks!
Second: I tried the clean installs and kept getting the static. I did the "turn the phone face down on table and put it to sleep/woke it up" thing - still didn't work.
So re-installed werewolf kernel and it worked fine. For a glorious hour or so (and it WAS glorious, lol)...
Then I started installing my apps again from Google Play, got REALLY enthused and called Sprint to switch my primary phone number back to the LG from the old Galaxy Note 3, took it out to a restaurant and...
Touchscreen stopped working. Not entirely sure why - was playing with it, doing stuff like normal, etc, but suddenly when it went to sleep, after it woke back up, like my ex-girlfriend, no matter how much I poked and prodded, no response Sorry, too easy/cheesy.
But instead of being not just a n00b, but also a n00b that did the thing to you guys that I HATE to read (aka "THAT guy"), I did some digging - apparently that's an issue with v1.1 or Werewolf vs v1.0.
So wiped again, reflashed TeamDev v20, flashed Werewolf v1.0 (instead of v1.1).
And: Christmas! Kernel works fine, no moar static, everything SEEMS to be in great shape, but will report back if anything glitches up.
Hey, and I have to say, thanks to all 3 of you - the info you guys put on here is invaluable, and I know how some folks come at you like you're on the clock on their payroll, lol.
I know it's hard work and folks like me (borderline clueless) appreciate it - no joke that when I get my next check, I'll be sending a Thank$ your ways for your help with my thing and in general.
Thanks again!
raenemaker said:
But instead of being not just a n00b, but also a n00b that did the thing to you guys that I HATE to read (aka "THAT guy"), I did some digging - apparently that's an issue with v1.1 or Werewolf vs v1.0.
So wiped again, reflashed TeamDev v20, flashed Werewolf v1.0 (instead of v1.1).
And: Christmas! Kernel works fine, no moar static, everything SEEMS to be in great shape, but will report back if anything glitches up.
Hey, and I have to say, thanks to all 3 of you - the info you guys put on here is invaluable, and I know how some folks come at you like you're on the clock on their payroll, lol.
I know it's hard work and folks like me (borderline clueless) appreciate it - no joke that when I get my next check, I'll be sending a Thank$ your ways for your help with my thing and in general.
Thanks again!
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Ah crap, I forgot to warn you about that, lol. (Haven't used to Werewolf kernel in awhile--wish they would fix that glitch.) Glad that you found the answer and got your phone back!

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