Hi to all.
I'm curious to see any sample photo taken with Touch HD. Someone can post here any photos?
...they are too big to be included in the forum (VGA limitation)
host on photobucket, imageshack, or tinypic.
I have been waiting for the sample pic for a long time
we have all been waiting for the sample pics
hope they post them soon
in the test on http://www.areamobile.de they also postet some sample pictures
Photo Quality
Can anyone who has the HD comment on the quality of the camera?
From reviews I've read it seems it's not as good as other 5mp devices, but I would think it would be a massive improvement to that of the Touch, Cruise, Diamond... (in respect to frame rate and photo quality, not just increased size)??
mradaml said:
Can anyone who has the HD comment on the quality of the camera?
From reviews I've read it seems it's not as good as other 5mp devices, but I would think it would be a massive improvement to that of the Touch, Cruise, Diamond... (in respect to frame rate and photo quality, not just increased size)??
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I can not compare it to the Diamond, but to recent Nokia phones, the Iphone and my LG Viewty. And i personally think, the pictures are better and have better colours. also when taking pictures in a room, where the light is not that good for cams it seem to take bright and clear pictures. (you may remember the pictures they took on this french site one month ago. the Iphones pictures where pretty dark and red, while the same pictures taken by the HD where bright and clear)
Eitum said:
in the test on http://www.areamobile.de they also postet some sample pictures
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They have used a cheep plastic lens....
So typically HTC.. they want to make a phone with all the top feautures on paper... and spend a lot of money on parts to do that.... while trying to save some money on the not so important parts (according to Htc) and then they ruin a lot of the performance of the phone because they want to save a few bucks....
After I got the EVO 4G at Google I/O, I went to France for my honeymoon, and have been using the EVO for taking pictures and videos all around Paris.
My review of the camera and the photos have just been posted at AndroidPolice.com: Review And Hands-On Results With HTC EVO 4G’s 8MP Camera – Paris In Photos
Videos coming later - I'm having trouble uploading them to Youtube from the crappy Internet connection.
Enjoy!
wow... great pictures!
JUST SAW THE MEMORY CARD ISSUE THERE.. ops.. had same problem.. got me a 16gb C4 and problem fixed.. i was worried at first
ajftl said:
JUST SAW THE MEMORY CARD ISSUE THERE.. ops.. had same problem.. got me a 16gb C4 and problem fixed.. i was worried at first
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Keep us posted if it happens again.
Sounds like the new SD card will fix the problem.
I've got my own SD card already loaded with music and pics.
When I get my Evo on Friday, I will just swap it out and be good to go.
Thanks for the post...
To be honest, I am disappointed with the picture quality. I am jealous you went to Paris, and your pictures looked fine, they were just not the quality I was expecting from an 8mp camera. They looked like a 3mp image over sharpened. FWIW, it won't stop me from test driving an Evo.
Everyone forgot to say Congratulations! on getting married. Welcome to eternal lockdown and possibly garnished paychecks. J/P in all seriousness congrats and the pics are beautiful.
any native resolution pics?? or uncompressed?? same thing, i know, not sure the technical term.
what settings are you using?
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To be honest, I am disappointed with the picture quality. I am jealous you went to Paris, and your pictures looked fine, they were just not the quality I was expecting from an 8mp camera. They looked like a 3mp image over sharpened. FWIW, it won't stop me from test driving an Evo.
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You're crazy...I'm a professional photographer and I've seen $700 Digital SLRs shoot worse photos
oh and also understand that he might have sharpening on....and the website obviously will alter the photos somewhat
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You're crazy...I'm a professional photographer and I've seen $700 Digital SLRs shoot worse photos
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Agreed. This camera is VERY good.. people are just expecting too much when they hear "8 megapixels". The sensor and optics in the camera on the back are great. Plain and simple. Don't drop your DSLR or point-and-shoot just yet, but definitely keep the EVO handy because with the processor, the pictures snap quickly and they geotag super fast and are easy to send to Flickr. I love it.
To answer some of the questions above, the settings are all auto - the only thing I changed was the resolution. No sharpening has been done, either when shooting or after. In fact, the camera doesn't have a sharpen option at all.
The website doesn't alter the photos either - what you are viewing in the lightbox is the full thing, granted it's scaled down by the browser to fit your screen. If you want to view the full size, just right click and copy link or Save As.
And thank you for the congratulations
I still think the camera on the EVO is really nice - yes, the optics could improve but I'm loving that I don't actually HAVE to have my point-and-shoot with me to produce some nice pics.
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You're crazy...I'm a professional photographer and I've seen $700 Digital SLRs shoot worse photos
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yeah im not a pro, but those pictures look GREAT!
fairly well written article, although it saddens me today's consumer needs the 'important parts' bolded so he doesn't have to read comprehensively.
oh wait, we're supposed to be talking about the phone?
yes, yes - nice pictures
Here are some i've taken tonight, I take alot of sunset photos, with different settings just to see the outcomes. I did the same and still do the same with my Omnia and with my Digital Cameras to.
Enjoy and please feel free to post some of your own sunset photos to, taken with the Incredible of course
Here are some better outcomes thought you might wanna see them.
Using Camera 30
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5849/c36020100615205540org.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5201/imag0061ap.jpg
Hold Still little one :0
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6400/c36020100615205916.jpg
Standard Camera
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4466/imag0063i.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3236/imag0064u.jpg
Posted as links as photos are big and don't want to lag the board
Guess we have no sunset lovers lol, oh well good to know the camera can pull it off
That looks pretty good for a phone camera. I will be receiving my phone today, It's good to know that I can takes some pics of sunsets over the Florida everglades.
Thanks for the post.
I like the pictures Matter fact, would you be willing to share the original picture of this one:
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Good pics!
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I like the pictures Matter fact, would you be willing to share the original picture of this one:
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That is the original, See the original and the hdr effect copy (crazy bright) below:
HDR Effect
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Original
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5849/c36020100615205540org.jpg
In all the arguing about lag, screen and firmware issues I haven't seen any actual discussion on the Galaxy's camera. I have yet to compare it directly to the iPhone 4's camera, but I'm really impressed with this one coming from an iPhone 3GS.
I have been taking some sample shots over the last few days to see how it looks, most of them have been slightly processed with phone apps like photoshop mobile and vignette, but I feel every photo needs to be retouched and no camera takes perfect pictures on its own.
I'm not able to post full links yet, but copy and paste this on a different tab to see my samples.
yfrog.com/ea4801795350300f4ca828bjx
If you guys have taken cool shots with the Galaxy please share
You can see in this thread pics and videos taken with it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704578
woops, didnt see the thread, ignore this one then
No matter what I do I can't seem to get a clear picture. Everything is blurry. I can't figure out if my expectations are just too high.....I came from an LG G4 but still. How are you guys getting good pictures? I'm talking 5% of the pictures I take are passable. Maybe I have a faulty camera? Anyone else find the camera to be garbage? I've looked through the camera threads and people seem happy overall. It can't just be me.
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Moto camera app sucks...did you try a different app?
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I tried Open Camera and am using Google camera currently. And I'm no Ansel Adams but I takes lot of pictures and have always been able to figure out how to take a decent shot on every device I've owned until this one.
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Are the pictures blurry or noisy?
They're blurry. That the thing, that's new to me. Good lighting with as steady a hand as I can muster still results in a blurry shot. I'll take one now and post if I can.
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This is probably a stupid suggestion, but have you tried just wiping the lens and making sure it's clean and clear? Honestly I've had that problem before where it's been smudged without my noticing and it obviously makes every picture screwed up. I know it's not likely, but something that's worth a shot I've found! Other than that I know nothing about cameras and coming from an HTC One I know nothing of a quality photo...
No, I agree with @jiggyb21, I just bought the Moxo X and came from the Galaxy S6. The camera on the Moto seems like pure garbage to me, and I think it's because we are coming from phones with superior cameras. People who came from phones with worse cameras will obviously think the Moto X camera is great right?
I don't have the steadiest of hands, but I haven't run into a problem like what you are describing. Have you given some thought that you might have a faulty device? It uses phase detection for focus, so if every picture is blurry you may have an issue with the actual camera module.
I've tried a few camera apps, and though pics come out good, man do I really have to keep a steady hand. Move it a hair and any text blurs. Why not lean it up against something to take your handling out of equation and voice command take pic and see what comes up.
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It would be nice if you could post some samples. I'm not in love with the camera but I have consistently been able to snap photos that are good enough quickly
I don't even know if I uploaded the pics correctly and if not I'll fix it later while I'm watching the Giants beat on the Eagles. Something interesting happened while taking these pictures. I am in 100% optimal lighting conditions and these are basically the best 4 shots I could possibly get out of this camera. I asked around to the people here on the jobsite with me and everyone thought the pictures were just fine. Yes, they aren't blurry to the point of being unreadable by any means but they are quite blurry. I guess it could just be me but I would still argue it's not. Before anyone says anything about how this is just a smartphone and it's only a $400 smartphone at that and it's good enough, I know that and maybe people who haven't used a good smartphone camera don't know what they're missing. If that's the case, fine, and that's why I started this thread was to find out. My last 4 phones were Xperia ZL, Z2, Z3 and LG G4. We all know the G4 and S6, to name two, have incredible cameras and have OIS. The first 3 I named weren't and don't. They were all rated as average cameras and they don't have OIS. I have hundreds of pictures taken in similar conditions with the Sonys and they didn't suffer from blur. Like I said these 4 pictures were surprisingly good IMO. Most I take are MUCH more blurred and most of the pictures I take aren't in this perfect a light. So I'll have to post more pictures from my collection at home to really show off the bad ones.
If you zoom in a little on the pics its almost a 3D art poster kind of eye strain. Again, I'm not talking about level of detail, just the blurriness.
I think part of the pictures of blurry because of shallow depth of field due to lower aperture setting in the software algorithm. It seems the software is trying to compress too much noise. Although I have not personally used it, try the following link for the alternative camera and report back the results. Hope this works out for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/themes-apps/app-camera-galery-t3216944
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No, I agree with @jiggyb21, I just bought the Moxo X and came from the Galaxy S6. The camera on the Moto seems like pure garbage to me, and I think it's because we are coming from phones with superior cameras. People who came from phones with worse cameras will obviously think the Moto X camera is great right?
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Not really. I have a DSLR so that's my standard on PQ. In daylight, nothing should be blurry at 100% zoom on even a $200 phone. You don't need flagship to take a good photo at 1/125 second shutter speed. It's either defective camera unit or something is wrong with the setting. Just look at all the photos people have posted on this forum.
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I don't even know if I uploaded the pics correctly and if not I'll fix it later while I'm watching the Giants beat on the Eagles. Something interesting happened while taking these pictures. I am in 100% optimal lighting conditions and these are basically the best 4 shots I could possibly get out of this camera. I asked around to the people here on the jobsite with me and everyone thought the pictures were just fine. Yes, they aren't blurry to the point of being unreadable by any means but they are quite blurry. I guess it could just be me but I would still argue it's not. Before anyone says anything about how this is just a smartphone and it's only a $400 smartphone at that and it's good enough, I know that and maybe people who haven't used a good smartphone camera don't know what they're missing. If that's the case, fine, and that's why I started this thread was to find out. My last 4 phones were Xperia ZL, Z2, Z3 and LG G4. We all know the G4 and S6, to name two, have incredible cameras and have OIS. The first 3 I named weren't and don't. They were all rated as average cameras and they don't have OIS. I have hundreds of pictures taken in similar conditions with the Sonys and they didn't suffer from blur. Like I said these 4 pictures were surprisingly good IMO. Most I take are MUCH more blurred and most of the pictures I take aren't in this perfect a light. So I'll have to post more pictures from my collection at home to really show off the bad ones.
If you zoom in a little on the pics its almost a 3D art poster kind of eye strain. Again, I'm not talking about level of detail, just the blurriness.
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It's a f 2.0 lens. You gonna have blurriness around the edge of photo if you are taking it that close. It has nothing to do with OIS.
In any case, you can read the professional review of the XPE here.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Moto-X-Style-Mobile-review-Style-and-Substance
If you're in good light, this is arguably one of the best phone cameras out there. Your pictures should be nice and crisp. Try this: take your camera outside during the day and take a few shots of the horizon or something. Then post the pictures here and we'll tell you (hopefully) if you've got a faulty unit. It sounds like your phone is not performing as mine is. I'm even satisfied with some indoor shots with this camera. I have done professional photography, so I am well-versed in cameras (color, WB, ISO, exposure, f-stop, etc.).
Even from reading reviews and comparisons from the web and tech reviewers, this camera performs with, and sometimes beats the other current flagship models out there. I happen to agree with them. From reading this thread though, maybe your camera isn't the only one with this problem.
Anyway, try to post a couple of pictures up. A link to an external host like photobucket or something like that would probably be better than uploading straight to XDA, due to compression and size limits.
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Those photos don't look that bad. What sort of blurriness are you talking about? The bokeh from taking close up pictures? Bokeh is a natural blurring effect you get from a larger aperature lens not being able to capture the entire depth of field. That's normal. The focused part of those pictures don't look blurry to me.
As an aside, any indoor shot will not be optimal lighting, unless you have a lighting kit or something to really brighten up the scene. Optimal lighting would be outside, and when the sun is not directly overhead. This is a very quick summation of optimal light, but you get the point.
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I think part of the pictures of blurry because of shallow depth of field due to lower aperture setting in the software algorithm. It seems the software is trying to compress too much noise. Although I have not personally used it, try the following link for the alternative camera and report back the results. Hope this works out for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/themes-apps/app-camera-galery-t3216944
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Wow, thanks, that camera works great, I always enjoy having the face detection feature it makes focusing on faces much faster.
Gr8man001 said:
I think part of the pictures of blurry because of shallow depth of field due to lower aperture setting in the software algorithm. It seems the software is trying to compress too much noise. Although I have not personally used it, try the following link for the alternative camera and report back the results. Hope this works out for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/themes-apps/app-camera-galery-t3216944
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Thanks for your tip. After turning off NR in advanced setting, I tried a couple of indoor shots of some writings on my note book. Please excuse the terrible lighting and my bad handwriting, but it's very easy to tell which shot had the NR off. Yes the one with NR off has a dirtier background, but the pen strokes has much better contrast from the paper. That's probably one of the reasons why the default setting produces blurry photos.
Yea when taking photos of dogs in low light I only managed to have 1 or 2 come out bad and that was from me moving the phone. But then again I am used to shooting 50asa film freehand.
lack of optical image stabilization rearing it's ugly head.. who knows why the hell they couldn't use a sensor with it, but it's quite disappointing. but turning off nr helps a lot.. we need a dev to come in and work on a true camera mod for this phone only. I tried to get my bud xdabbeb to make a mod (as anyone who had the g2 knows his xcam mod was killer!) but he isn't planning on buying this phone. ugh.
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If you're in good light, this is arguably one of the best phone cameras out there. Your pictures should be nice and crisp. Try this: take your camera outside during the day and take a few shots of the horizon or something. Then post the pictures here and we'll tell you (hopefully) if you've got a faulty unit. It sounds like your phone is not performing as mine is. I'm even satisfied with some indoor shots with this camera. I have done professional photography, so I am well-versed in cameras (color, WB, ISO, exposure, f-stop, etc.).
Even from reading reviews and comparisons from the web and tech reviewers, this camera performs with, and sometimes beats the other current flagship models out there. I happen to agree with them. From reading this thread though, maybe your camera isn't the only one with this problem.
Anyway, try to post a couple of pictures up. A link to an external host like photobucket or something like that would probably be better than uploading straight to XDA, due to compression and size limits.
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Those photos don't look that bad. What sort of blurriness are you talking about? The bokeh from taking close up pictures? Bokeh is a natural blurring effect you get from a larger aperature lens not being able to capture the entire depth of field. That's normal. The focused part of those pictures don't look blurry to me.
As an aside, any indoor shot will not be optimal lighting, unless you have a lighting kit or something to really brighten up the scene. Optimal lighting would be outside, and when the sun is not directly overhead. This is a very quick summation of optimal light, but you get the point.
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Thank you and this is why I wanted feedback. I posted the pictures I did (close-up), because, to me, they were the most objectifiable shots I could take while at work. The text just isn't as clear as other shots I've taken with other phones. I called it optimal lighting because I was in a 6x6 room with three windows and a skylight on a sunny day with no direct sunlight. The lighting felt like the kind any decent camera would take advantage of. To me, that's optimal..but I understand that's a strong word and not scientific. The fact that it scores so highly in professional reviews is what has me frustrated. The only thing I can deduce is that a professional, lab environment is more controlled and repeatable than my layman's point and shoot approach. They must be using a tripod, right? This phone has everything else I want and I just want to like the camera. So believe me, I want to figure out how to enjoy the camera. I will take more shots tomorrow and post them and I hope you and others with knowledge will chime in. I just know that with the other smartphone cameras I mentioned earlier, 8 out of 10 shots were keepers and with this one it's more like 1 out of 10 and that's not jiving with everyone else. Thanks again.
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looking at the pictures, they seem just fine to me. the blurred part (glue) at the bottom of the bottle is just from it using a wide aperture. the images are not tack sharp but this is a cellphone camera and small dof. I dont see motion blur.
problem with auto cameras is that you dont know what priority it has. to use a wide aperture to get a decent shutter speed and not have to use high iso or the opposite.
for proper exposure you have to adjust and juggle the 3 parameters (iso/aperture/shutter) to get a proper image.
wish the phone had controls like the LG G4 which has aperture iso shutter WB and EC.