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Yes the X10 in its first incarnation is a flawed device, but for us owners there are a few things that make us smile about it right?
For me, I absolutely adore:
1. The camera. Yes you have to turn the light on/off manually but otherwise this is the best camera I've ever had on a phone, and at some point we will be able to record video in 720p! Also sound recording with video is very good quality, not tinny on playback.
2. The screen. Plenty of room, and high resolution. Not AMOLED but that is also a blessing because it is still bright, and doesn't have that stupid PenTile pixel layout so our text is far more sharp than the Nexus One/Desire owners!
3. MediaScape, it's far better than the stock Gallery/Music player.
The screen is definitely the thing that sold me on this phone. I have big thumbs so the landscape mode is great to type on.
I also like MediaScape. It works as well as anything else I've used for music. It would be nice if it had a widget or something for the lock screen, but it does its job well otherwise.
The fact that this thread exists kind of depresses me.
well its a pretty slick design i am pretty happy that i bought my x10 no doubt about it mediascape does the trick for music, its just overall a pretty nice phone.
makes me smile everytime i hold it. :'D
Nice idea for a thread.
I am satisfied with the device and concur with most of the statements already listed (screen, resolution, camera etc.)
It is refreshing to see some positive feedback in such a cynical environment.
yeah, finnaly a threat that's not about flaming the x10.
I'm happy with it.
-very nice desing! (have the white one)
-i think it's fast (and yes i come from hd2)
-thanks to helixlauncher i don't miss to much from android 2.1
-the above the camera
And once root's ben achieved, we gonna have nothing to complain about.
worst case we have to wait for SE for ouwr update. so nothing to bad i think...
Design
looks sexy...everyone notices it...in restaurant, in clubs, in college, in buses..and asks me about it...feels good mahn!
A thread not bashing the X10? This is an interesting change.
-Camera is great
-Mediascape is really good
-Timescape is ok
-Great looking phone
-Fantastic screen!
This is my first android device and I'm loving it!
Well, I got my Xperia X10 last Friday, leaving my HTC Tattoo behind.
I gotta tell you:
-Camera is amazing in well-light situations, somewhat inadequate in the dark but still far better than any android device's so far.
-The screen... WOW! Amoled technology that is used on HTC phones is still in its first generation and has many drawbacks as of now.
-The battery lasts 2 days with about 2 hours WiFi, push Gmail 24/7, maybe 10 minutes of GPS on Copilot, 1 hour of phone calls, 30 SMS/MMS, some photos... Not bad at all! I've been using smartphones for 6 years now and so far I got the best battery life out of Xperia. Period.
-Mediascape... WOW! My friends are tagged in all the camera photos, my media files are well organised and the UI looks really sleek and classy. WOW!
-Browsing is a walk in the park with that screen and that processor underneath!
I could go on, but I won't.
Sure, I wish it had 2.1 on but, then again, why...? I surely can wait.
I understand people who don't want to wait, but come on guys, sometimes versions are just numbers. If the user experience is good, who cares about 1.6/2.1/2.2/2.3.
We should be able to enjoy our phones and moan less!
My favorite part is you can still get a good price selling it!
My only guess why the Droid Pro hasn't taken off like it should have is the somewhat low resolution screen that sits recessed in the bezel. HTC screens usually sit nice and flush with the front of the phone and are of higher resolution.
What would you like to see in the Droid Pro 2 that isn't in the Droid Pro?
1. Higher resolution screen
2. Slightly larger screen with less bezel around it
3. Front facing camera
4. Better battery life
I think it does exactly what it has to do, be a business/corporate phone. It is def not a developer phone like many of the HTCs but is pretty good as whats its supposed to be.
Ask yourself, as somebody in an corporate environment would you really need a higher res screen? I give you the longer battery life, but I assume it will spend most time hooked up to a in-car charger or connected to a power-supply at work anyways. You dont really need it a front-facing camera either, I cant think of any application of that in the corporate world..
Btw, it will be a long while till there will be a new Pro 2.. Motorola just announced to offer the Droid Pro as the Motorola Pro in Europe with exactly the same hardware (as far as the news go)...
vivid22 said:
I think it does exactly what it has to do, be a business/corporate phone. It is def not a developer phone like many of the HTCs but is pretty good as whats its supposed to be.
Ask yourself, as somebody in an corporate environment would you really need a higher res screen? I give you the longer battery life, but I assume it will spend most time hooked up to a in-car charger or connected to a power-supply at work anyways. You dont really need it a front-facing camera either, I cant think of any application of that in the corporate world..
Btw, it will be a long while till there will be a new Pro 2.. Motorola just announced to offer the Droid Pro as the Motorola Pro in Europe with exactly the same hardware (as far as the news go)...
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Well by that logic, you don't really need a color screen, a camera, or side volume keys.
Even the screen on the Legend looks better . I'll still be keeping my Droid Pro with its physical keyboard until a better model comes out either from Motorola or HTC.
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My only guess why the Droid Pro hasn't taken off like it should have is the somewhat low resolution screen that sits recessed in the bezel. HTC screens usually sit nice and flush with the front of the phone and are of higher resolution.
What would you like to see in the Droid Pro 2 that isn't in the Droid Pro?
1. Higher resolution screen
2. Slightly larger screen with less bezel around it
3. Front facing camera
4. Better battery life
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3.3 inch screen
720x480 resolution
HD video recording
Front facing camera
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3.3 inch screen
720x480 resolution (at least!) ++
HD video recording ++
Front facing camera +++
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Yes yes and more yes!
$50 price tag
Definitely agreed on the larger screen with less bezel, providing opportunity for higher resolution.
I'm not so concerned with the front-facing camera or HD video recording, but I certainly wouldn't oppose such improvements
Agreed on battery life
I would also tolerate a taller phone if it meant incorporating some kind of directional keys - be it a four-way rocker, or maybe they could fit a blackberry-style touch pad in the middle of the capacitive android buttons, negating the need for making the phone taller.
So we all agree that the Droid Pro 2 needs a higher resolution screen with less bezel and better battery life.
I don't necessarily see the need for the front facing camera or the HD recording (cell phone cameras aren't going to produce good recordings regardless), but I wouldn't be opposed to those improvements, either.
A higher resolution would be nice, but more importantly, bettery battery life. It would be nice if they included the extended battery instead of the stock one.
Also, I'd love to see the Menu, Home, Back, and Search buttons become hardware buttons, with a directional pad in the middle of them. That's one thing I really miss from my Treo. Hardware buttons would be harder to accidentally hit while typing, would give the phone a more professional feel, and wouldn't necessarily call for a taller phone if the buttons were sized right.
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Well by that logic, you don't really need a color screen, a camera, or side volume keys.
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I always thought someone should realease a "true" business android phone. A highly efficient black and white low power screen. scroll wheel. no camera or at least a very basic camera that is optimized for scanning documents and business cards. Huge ass battery. No bloat, just stripped down awesomeness.
There are still many many folks out there using the original blackberrys.
email and battery life are the #1 and #2. Everything else is just gravy. Imagine a business phone that worked globally, woked well for phone calls, had a good keyboard, rock solid email and calendar functionality. dream...
Plus it needs to be thin and small. no business man wants to cary around a giant iPhone. I thought my droid pro would be smaller but its still to big.
Definitely higher res screen, less bezel, better battery life, ffc, dual core processor maybe
I'd like to see automatic dialing implemented so that I can just start typing on the number keys to dial instead of going directly to search. i always search text never numbers so if im inputting numbers it should know to bring up the dialer. this is definitely software scope but to be done right it'd have to be done at the OS level I think.
This should apply to any phone, and especially those marketed as a business phone, but fix the damn exchange email sync....
if/when they provide an update to the current Droid Pro that fixes the corporate exchange push sync lag I will be perfectly happy with my Pro...
personally i don't care for the business functionality. but since it IS a business phone it should have excellent email exchange.
the first thing i'd like is if the 480p video camera was upgraded to 720p. i don't mind 5mpx because i think the photos look good as they are (the samples i've seen online). besides, the iphone's 5mpx is superior to any phone i've seen with the same amount of pixels.
secondly i'd like the battery issue to be fixed. it should be sold with a higher capacity battery to last around a week with general use. it's sad hearing reports of the battery only lasting a few hours before dying completely.
thirdly i'd like a dedicated camera button. while there's probably an app for that, it should come with a convenience key and camera button or the option to switch the convenience key to whatever function i'd like.
fourthly i'd like the option to open the landscape keyboard whenever i hold the options softkey. the droid x does this, and i guess it would be useful if the phone didn't know when to bring the keyboard out. ALSO i'd like default swype on there just in case i wanted to use that keyboard one-handedly. i know most people complain that i should just buy a slideout phone, but honestly i use the portrait keyboard 90% of the time and landscape the other 10%.
fifthly, a higher resolution wouldn't hurt. while i don't mind the subpar quality that the droid pro offers, a lot of people are concerned about the clarity of their screens.
sixthly, i heard the speakerphone was on the back. should be on the front.
seventhly, a brighter led light notification thing
eighthly, a front facing camera might be a nice touch (apparently it's good for business people's phone meetings).
finally, i'd want none of that verizon/motorola bloatware crap. they're out of their minds to think i'd actually pay for cityID or whatever apps they're trying to drain my money of. the phone should come clean with basic necessary apps.
size and screen size is fine as it is. basically all i want is a better camera and a good battery. oh and GINGERBREAD! or the most recent update. the other stuff is just nice extras.
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secondly i'd like the battery issue to be fixed. it should be sold with a higher capacity battery to last around a week with general use. it's sad hearing reports of the battery only lasting a few hours before dying completely.
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A week? Really? Its a business phone yes, but far from magical.
Im sorry but this made me giggle. It will get a day at best. If you could get past the bootloader the best devs could maybe get you 2 days with a GB rom and decent UV kernal. But a week is asking the impossible, of any android device.
well, i wanted a better battery. 7 days may seem outrageous to you but there are phones that last for weeks before dying and for android phones i'm sure in the future improved batteries will allow the devices to last longer.
The only phones that last a week without dying are dumbphones, and even then, that's only if you don't use them.
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The only phones that last a week without dying are dumbphones, and even then, that's only if you don't use them.
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Exactly you wont see a week if battery life anytime soon. And if your are looking for long battery life a locked down moto device wasnt the best choice.
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ugh, i'm not arguing with the fact that at best a smartphone only lasts a few days. in the future, i'm SURE smartphones will have battery lives comparable to regular phones.
i can argue with the fact about "dumbphones". i use mine moderately (which is extremely simple) everyday for calling and mostly texting and it lasts me a week. i love it
if you want a realistic answer (because honestly, all the features i listed on the droid pro 2 aren't very realistic considering how the device will prob never exist) i'll just say a solid 2 days. maybe 3.
New way to navigate and select Text!!
Navigating through text is a nightmare using the touch interface. The little magnified version is a bit of a help but its still not a good way to navigate text using a thumb that is half an inch thick to navigate between characters that are millimeters thick. Bad design.
Also not all text is easily selectable. Need to figure out a better way to highlight text in emails (not drafts), webpages, etc.
i would appreciate some call/end buttons. i know most people don't care about that but for me its easy and quick (after all its main functionality should be as a phone). the surrounding 4 soft keys could be placed like those on the acer betouch e210 if there's not enough room.
i think someone said before that they'd like the phone to come up as soon as you dial the number row. or there should be an option to switch from universal search to that generic phone number input regular phones have when you press the number keypad.
hmm. as evanstein has said, its hard to edit mistakes on the touch screen. maybe if they incorporate arrow keys on the side of the space bar (like the sony ericsson xperia x10 mini pro) it would be easier. i wouldn't mind if the pro was a few millimeters wider.
yeah.. i'd really like a droid pro 2. ): anyone hear any word on that yet?
I posted this in my ROM thread but thought it may be worth moving it to the General section, as I've noticed users asking what the SGS2 is like coming from the DHD.
These are just some initial thoughts, but feel free to ask me anything about the phone that would influence your decision. Just to be clear, don't turn the thread into a Sensation vs SGS2 thread please!! That said, I have had a good play with the Sensation so can answer some questions about it.
Being a HTC Fan for the best part of a decade, I was apprehensive of making the move to Samsung. Their previous Android offerings all had major flaws and didn't cut it for me. I used to laugh at the original SGS with it's lag/GPS/lack of camera flash issues. I upgrade my phones often and naturally assumed that my next phone would be the Sensation but the whole issue with the bootloader turned my head. Even though HTC have now backtracked, I'm grateful they turned my head because the SGS2 is unbelievably good!
The battery life is a major improvement, with similar usage I now find myself with 20-30% more battery at the end of the day and no longer dread the "15% Remaining" notification.
Although my N1 is an AMOLED model, nothing prepared me for the SAMOLED+ which is just unbelievable. The blacks, colours and clarity are on another level and I know I will really struggle going back to LCD after seeing this.
The speed of the device is just insane. Coming from the N1 to DHD, there wasn't any major improvements in speed as such, just the bigger screen. You'd think that it wouldn't be very noticeable coming from a 1.3Ghz OC DHD to SGS2 but side by side, the SGS2 just chews through everything almost 2x as fast. The browser, as many have shown is buttery smooth and makes for an awesome browsing experience.
The camera is much better and the 1080p recording looks stunning on my 42" 1080p TV with the increased bitrate mod. The main improvement is in low light conditions where the DHD would always give grainy distorted images and videos. I can actually leave my digicam at home now and use the phone for most of my quick picture taking.
Build quality is awesome. People always say that it feels cheap and plastic, but if you are like me and use a case, it "feels" the same just so much lighter. I can now read longer in bed and watch videos without feeling my arm aching! My DHD used to creak slightly when pressing on the touchscreen (the SIM cover) and I have no problems like this and don't forsee any the way the phone is built.
Sound quality through headphones is not as good as the DHD which is a shame. I've had to fiddle with DSPManager and PowerAmp to make it sound good. The stock player sounds horrible and the included 5.1 mode is garbage. I can cope now with my adjustments but really I was disappointed with this. The speaker is much better though and is much clearer than the DHD, so voices are easier to hear on podcasts and radio.
TouchWiz is rubbish. They may have improved it but I HATE the iPhone wannabe look and although I tried my best to use it, I had LP back up and running after an hour or two. I prefer stock Android anyway but can use Sense if I had to. I cannot use TouchWiz.
Phonecall quality is OK. Sounded slightly better on DHD, but people can hear me clearer on the GS2. They sometimes think I have hung up because the line is so clear from background noise.
Overall I can't recommend the phone enough to any DHD users who are not reliant on SENSE UI and want to upgrade to Dual Core.
Regards.
Thanks for the insights d00d, but you really can't compare two phones one with a single core processor and the other a dual core processor in terms of functionality, speed, lag/response. I tried the SGS2 myself on a Vmobile stand in a mall and I'd prefer the matte finish of the DHD over the somehow iphone 3G-ish gloss curved plastic finish for it's case. I'm just waiting for a GSM 3D phone and my brand of choice would be HTC.
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Thanks for the insights d00d, but you really can't compare two phones one with a single core processor and the other a dual core processor in terms of functionality, speed, lag/response. I tried the SGS2 myself on a Vmobile stand in a mall and I'd prefer the matte finish of the DHD over the somehow iphone 3G-ish gloss curved plastic finish for it's case. I'm just waiting for a GSM 3D phone and my brand of choice would be HTC.
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I'm not trying to compare them head to head. This is more of an experiential viewpoint having used both phones and hopefully will help those considering the SGS2 as an upgrade from the DHD.
Regards.
Dude,I made the move just yesterday,and it feels like you've been in my head these two days.I can't stand the abscense of Sense.I'm so used to it that it feels so strange without it,it's like using another OS.All the other stuff though...What can I say?The phone's like a dream come true.
On a side note,Thursday night my DHD works like a charm as always.Fast,smooth and stable.Friday morning,after the call that informed me my GS2 was here,the DHD started behaving strangely.It lags like hell,it's slow and gives random reboots.Perhaps my DHD wasn't the best for overclocking as it couldn't handle 2GHz,but it felt jealous!How advanced is that?
How's the battery life? This is a big issue for me.
Thanks buddy for the comparison. From your insights I won't be upgrading then; due to the sound effects. I very much love the dolby effects, which I would miss in the S2........
Denny
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How about the white color on the SGS 2? It seems to me that white on Sgs 2 is blueish!
Personally I don't like Super, mega, extra, amoled because of the unnatural colors.
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How's the battery life? This is a big issue for me.
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Battery life is great! While calibrating (first few cycles) it was draining quite fast when in use, but now I am calibrated I find it great. Obviously coming from the DHD, anything would seem better, but I still have a N1 and it outperforms that. The biggest differences I notice are when playing music it hardly moves, I still lose similar to standby drain (-1%-2% per hour) which is mind boggling. That said, super intensive use with lots of white backgrounds (think web browsing on 3G) can drain the battery quickly but yesterday I absolutely hammered the phone with YouTube, Music, Calls, Browsing etc and even after 17hours I was still in double figures (albeit at 10%). DHD would have been dead after 13-14 with similar usage.
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Thanks buddy for the comparison. From your insights I won't be upgrading then; due to the sound effects. I very much love the dolby effects, which I would miss in the S2........
Denny
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Yeh, coming from the DHD it was the first thing I noticed. There is a big thread in the SGS2 section started by supercurio, the developer of the Voodoo sound mod on the original SGS, where he analysed the hardware and came to the conclusion that the DAC performed poorly. I was reading this before I got the handset and was wondering could it be that bad? It isn't terrible but it's not great either. After combining PowerAmp and DSP Manager it now sounds much better and because my ears have adjusted i'm quite happy. I would say if DHD was 9/10 the SGS2 is a 7.5/10 for music. If SQ is SUPER important, I mean you one of these people with a full flac music collection and £100 headphones, then I don't think this phone is for you (Sensation is supposed to be good for SQ). The stock player sounds HORRENDOUS.
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How about the white color on the SGS 2? It seems to me that white on Sgs 2 is blueish!
Personally I don't like Super, mega, extra, amoled because of the unnatural colors.
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The whites are good, but I guess they are blueish whites. You only really notice this from an angle when the tint becomes apparent. Otherwise the whites are simply brilliant and eye burning bright! The colours can be unnatural at times, but that in a way is the appeal of the SAMOLED+. I understand on a PC monitor when you may be doing graphic and digital image work that having natural colours is important, but on a phone I really appreciate the pop and brilliance of the display. Don't take Youtube videos as a gauge of how the screen looks because to the naked eye, it simply looks AMAZING! As soon as I turned the phone on it was a jaw dropping moment. Unfortunately there is slight banding on some gradients but this is minor and doesn't take anything away from this awesome screen.
Regards.
Thanks for the replay! Why didn't you get the HTC Sensation because the bootloader will be unlocked?!
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Thanks for the replay! Why didn't you get the HTC Sensation because the bootloader will be unlocked?!
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That's pretty relative pal.They can unlock the bootloader,but don't think they'll make our lives THAT much easy.Nand-locks and stuff like that will almost surely be there.I hope not though!Not that I'll buy the Sensation,but I will probably be buying HTC again in the future(old habits die hard,don't they? ) and their policies probably won't change.
I have to admit though,messing with the Galaxy S 2 is easy as pie.Once you get the hang of it it's much easier than any HTC I've owned.
As a long time DHD owner and a previous SGS owner, I bought the SGS2 few days ago. Some quick thoughts:
1. I'm quite critical to build quality and I couldn't stand original SGS display bezel and back cover getting loose. Ok, why even consider SGS2 then? Well, I kind of fell in love for Case-Mate Tough case, and I'm happy with it after using it for a day.
Some quick notes about SGS2 build quality in general, display bezel seems very solid and since back cover only covers the back area of the phone (unlike SGS where the back cover went all the way to sides of the phone), and this is a good thing. It seems to be very tightly attached to the body and it has more snaps that attach than original SGS.
Back cover can be pressed a bit down and it makes a little click under camera module. But these are not an issue for me as I got the case on mine.
2. The main reason I bought it, SAMOLED+ display. Okay, first boot and I immediately noticed white is not very good white. It's blueish. I've already used to that, but that's just something that immediately jumped on me after looking at white with DHD LCD display.
Otherwise, viewing angle is awesome, but that doesn't matter much to me as I tend to look at my phone in the front.
Overall of course all the colors are very good looking and sharp. All in all I maybe expected a bit more, but I'm definitely happy with it. But I feel that moving back to DHD LCD display would not be such a big deal that I thought if I had to do that.
3. The physical home-button makes quite loud click when pressed, I'm not a big fan of it.
4. Now here's why I'm having serious second thoughts about having this device: ROM support. My main grudge of course is that there is no CM7 for SGS2 yet. I have to say that I REALLY REALLY, I mean REAAALLY miss CM7. *sigh* It's until now that I'm using Samsung's customized Android, I realize how much I miss massive number of features available in CyanogenMod.
Another thing is that as far as I can see, there is no official CWM support for SGS2, and currently users use a customized version by Chainfire. It's ok though, as long as it works.
All in all my general feelings about the phone itself is good, I like many things over DHD such as improved taking camera photos speed, camera picture quality seems a bit better and ADW screen transitions and 4D drawer runs smoother than on my DHD. But the more I use SGS2, the more I miss my DHD running CM7....
I know, my complaints are mainly related to CM7 not being available on SGS2 so it's pretty subjective view. I also know atinm and Teamhacksung is working on CM7 on SGS2, but I have no idea when it'll be ready. CyanogenMod is just that awesome.
Doesn't CM7 have massive battery issues on the DHD though?
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Doesn't CM7 have massive battery issues on the DHD though?
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It used to have,something to do with the DSP chip not sleeping correctly I think.It has been solved a looooong time now.
For those of you that now have this phone, what are your thoughts? I'm liking this phone more and more but do I need it, well, not really. I'm perfectly happy with my Nexus 4 running PA but there's something about this that has me wanting it. I think part of it is the fact that it's kind of the underdog. It will be exciting to see what the dev's come up with, ROM wise. Anyway, my brain is just spinning as usual, haha.
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For those of you that now have this phone, what are your thoughts? I'm liking this phone more and more but do I need it, well, not really. I'm perfectly happy with my Nexus 4 running PA but there's something about this that has me wanting it. I think part of it is the fact that it's kind of the underdog. It will be exciting to see what the dev's come up with, ROM wise. Anyway, my brain is just spinning as usual, haha.
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I'm coming from a sony X10 but the oppo find 5 is working good, I had no dead pixels everything worked out of the box.
I have some problems with contact syncing and gmail updates. Photographs are beautiful, but HDR is not really good on dark spots. (lots of noise because of ISO value's)
I did not wanted the nexus 4 because of the glass back. But I think I would also be happy with the nexus 4. But it is overpriced in the Netherlands, my oppo is cheaper then the nexus 4.
It is super fast compared to my X10. No idea how fast the nexus 4 is.
I think you can better donate some money to charity instead of buying yet another high-end phone
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previous phone: HTC Sensation
+ Display: WOW! youtube trailer in HD and people start peeping their eyes out!
+ Sound: I never heard a phone playing it sounds like this
+ Speed: I changed the default (ugly) launcher to APEX, this give's the phone a better feel
+ Camera: Although my previous phone was already 2 year old hence i cannot compare it to recent in-phone-camera's it looks great
+ Desgin: It is sharp but not too sharp edged, it's light and thin. the phone is big in size but because its slim dimensions you will not notice it in your jeans (unless you wear skinny jeans i guess, but who does that )
- Temperature when under load, i feel the device is getting pretty warm, your hands start being sweatty.
- Stock UI
Display
Simply Amazing. Bright & Crisp.
However, the screen responsiveness to your touch isn't very good. I find myself having to tap many things twice or three times to get it registered.Battery
Terrible. It seems to be draining even while sleeping.
My usual morning routine, I unplugged the phone from the charger. It's charged to 100% over night. I do a few light tasks like replying to text messages, flipping through Flipboard, see one 30 sec YouTube video, brightness setting at 50%.
After 20 minutes of usage, my battery gotten down from 100% to 78%.Speaker
Nice and loud. Best, I have ever heard. But, when you lay it on its back, the speaker will be completely muffled.Camera
Sucks. 13MP only in spirit. Colors are over saturated. And, the balance isn't there. Lots of graininess in images, even in ample light. Also, don't use the LED flash. Your pictures will be almost all blown white. Absolutely no setting like macro, scene mode, white balance, panaroma, etc.. Just point and shoot and hope for the best...and often times, it isn't.
My 8MP Nexus and 5MP iPad Mini can take picture and video much better.Stock Launcher
The widgets are fugly. Period.Build Quality
Strong like my unibody Macbook Pro. However, the power and volume rockers shifts around. The micro USB port is weak. I feel like I'm gonna break that port anytime soon.Software
Random reboots at least twice or three times a day. No idea why. I feel like I'm using Windows 95 all over again. Oh, and Gmail doesn't open up. Yeah, seriously, Gmail DOES NOT work on this phone. I have to use the other mail app instead. Latest firmware & Gmail update.
Software is actually 4.1, not 4.2. Coming from Nexus 4, that was a let down. I miss the swype style keyboard on 4.2.ROM
Currently, as of late March, no ROMsSide Note
USB wall charger & headphones look EXACTLY like the ones for iPhones. Apple will be calling them soon, if not already.
Conclusion
Beauty & the Beast.......okay, maybe just the Beauty and not much else.
Interesting perspective, thanks for sharing. Hopefully a lot of these things can be fixed with future updates. What's the deal with the Gmail not working and is this something that OPPO is aware of?
I really am happy with the phone. Looks great and stands out in the crowd. Screen is fabulous. It's a new kid on the block, so there are a few things that are not quite there yet. But it seems Oppo are really working hard to make a proper go at this. So far weekly updates and regular fixes. I attached a simple benchmark to give you an idea of the spec. I'm sure there are better performers out there, but it seems to hold it's own!
It seems that my take is a lot different than other peoples on the board, or maybe I got really lucky and got the perfect unit, My Droid DNA is in my drawer and my Oppo Find 5 is sitting on my coffee table right now. All I have to say is wow I am really quite surprised with the device, and I have a Droid DNA now, and my previous device was HTC One X International Version. So I have saw some very nice displays lately, and the Oppo Find 5 is right up there with the best of them, it handles its own. The only fault was that I got my Oppo Find 5 with 1 stuck pixel, you don't even notice it only if you look for it when it’s on the black part while its booting up, once the screen comes on you can’t even see it.
+ Display is really NICE! 1 pixel stuck, on par with Droid DNA SLCD3 and just as bright so you don't have to turn it up that far and waste battery.
+ Build Quality I can’t say enough about this, this thing feels like I could Drop it off the roof and it would last.
+ The All black front display looks so good just as nice or better than the One X, and it has that nice curve in the glass that makes it nice to use.
+ I haven't tried the stock ear buds, but with my Sony ear buds, this thing sounds great, no distortion at all, with bass high, all amps sound good.
+ The stock speaker is also a pleasant surprise, it sounds really good at high volume levels also, when set right, no distortion and it gets loud
+ I stuck with the default launcher to give it a try and it is pretty smooth, has a really nice settings layout. I may switch, it reminds me of MIUI
+ The camera is just as good as my HTC DNA, I don't remember which review said it was about like about like an 8MP LG, It shots fine pictures.
+ The white matte finish does not leave any fingerprints and the screen must have that stuff to keep fingerprints off it also, it barley gets fingerprints
+ I have ran plenty of benchmarks and my unit did not get hot at all as someone said, maybe I wasn't holding it where it was getting hot at on their device?
+ The complete design is what really shines on this phone on the outside, it looks so sleek, and I have already caught people glancing and looking at it, and I have only owned it for one day, if that says anything at all?
+ or - Don't know enough about battery life yet but so far mine seems to be holding up better today, now that it is on its second charge, With a full HD Display you have got to know how to manage your battery, turn things off that you are not using at the time, it worked on my One X and that thing was a nightmare. On my One X I also disabled all my apps that I didn't ever use. At least until we get Roms that will take out all the bloat junk. Today my battery is doing really well almost 2 hours screen time and 76% left.
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-- I would have to say that the launcher would have been better stock, but I like trying new things out. I really hope Paranoid Android comes to this phone that will be my rom of choice. I already know CM and MIUI are coming soon.
-- The Ugly widgets, Oppo have so many better widgets on their other phones (Oppo Finder, Oppo Way, Oppo 3?) all those widgets look better IMO. I wish I could replace them somehow by switching APKs; maybe someone knows how and could let me know?
-- Contrast I like the over saturated look we have a developer that is working on a kernel or app to set your display just how you like it, at least I think so anyway?- hopefully we can get this fixed soon I know it’s being worked on by paperweistage and his kernel hopefully he gets it figures out, but if you want to help he is looking for some help in his kernel thread, He is looking for JDI Display white-sheets. So help out if you can
And support our developer, that’s how we eventually get more custom Kernel Roms and Apps. Donate to them a couple dollars for a cold one or a coffee.
-- or + It is a little bit on the heavy side but look how it’s made! Some could call this a negative but I left it neutral because it is well balanced and with a full metal frame inside around it, I don't really mind it weighing 20 extra grams, at least hopefully my phone won’t shatter into a thousand pieces if it falls on the ground.
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drvsbsm, awesome review! I was checking the OPPO forums earlier and was really getting mixed thoughts on the phone. I know this phone is new and things are just getting started and I think that is some of what's driving me to it. I remember when the Nokia N9 came out with it's Hartmann/Meego OS, I fell in love with that thing and it was pretty much a dead platform when released. It looks like OPPO is keeping up with bug fixes and putting out updates so that's a good sign. Most of all though, I think the thing is SEXY, a beautiful device.
I'm guessing the vendor on Amazon is the place to get it from, the one located in HK?
Thanks again guys!
Very , very good rewiew !
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Display
Simply AmazingBattery
Terrible. It seems to be draining even while sleepingSpeaker
Nice and loud.Camera
Sucks. My 8MP Nexus and 5MP iPad Mini can take picture and video much better. Absolutely no setting like scene mode, white balance, panaroma, etc in stock camera appStock Launcher
The widgets are fugly. Period.Build Quality
Strong like my unibody Macbook Pro. However, the power and volume rockers shifts around. The micro USB port is weak. I feel like I'm gonna break that port anytime soon.Software
Random reboots at least twice or three times a day. No idea why. I feel like I'm using Windows 95 all over again. Oh, and Gmail doesn't open up. Yeah, seriously, Gmail DOES NOT work on this phone. I have to use the other mail app instead.ROM
Currently, as of late March, no ROMsSide Note
USB wall charger & headphones look EXACTLY like the ones for iPhones. Apple will be calling them soon, if not already.
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+1...... The good think is that the almost everything can be repaired (soft related )
Video camera isn't that very good.
Video is okay if the subject stands still. However, when subject runs or any fast moments, then video gets blurry or ghosting.
For example, here's a video of my daughter at her Taekwondo practice. Notice how she gets blurry when she starts running?
http://youtu.be/ln_2YvN6f78
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Video camera isn't that very good.
Video is okay if the subject stands still. However, when subject runs or any fast moments, then video gets blurry or ghosting.
For example, here's a video of my daughter at her Taekwondo practice. Notice how she gets blurry when she starts running?
http://youtu.be/ln_2YvN6f78
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Hopefully this will be addressed as OPPO is releasing an update within a few days for camera related issues.
I have a question about the screen durability. I read somewhere, maybe GSMArena, that the screen rippled very easily and was a bit flexible. That sounds very concerning. I've also heard a few things about poor touchscreen response. This may also be hardware only problem that can't be fixed with any updates.
A lot of these smaller phone makers can just buy off the shelf parts (figuratively) and bulid their own phone. They don't need to develop their own hardware components, just how everything fits together and the overall design. The camera is an Exmor RS from Sony, and the screen is probably a 1080p panel from Sharp. Of course the processor is Qualcomm.
The biggest problem these small relatively no name companies face is the software. It's the brains that makes the smartphone smart, and having a small and inexperienced team, especially while trying to make your own skin, can lead to many shortcomings, from bugs to performance issues to compatibility to poor hardware utilization and battery life. A lot of this stuff even the big boys have trouble with and they have far bigger teams with far more experience. Oppo should go the route that BLU is taking in the future. BLU has a really horrible skin, allegedly, and unstable and buggy phones, but they are supposedly putting stock Android on their new Life series line of phones.
From what I've gathered, the screen is made by JDI?
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I have a question about the screen durability. I read somewhere, maybe GSMArena, that the screen rippled very easily and was a bit flexible. That sounds very concerning. I've also heard a few things about poor touchscreen response. This may also be hardware only problem that can't be fixed with any updates.
A lot of these smaller phone makers can just buy off the shelf parts (figuratively) and bulid their own phone. They don't need to develop their own hardware components, just how everything fits together and the overall design. The camera is an Exmor RS from Sony, and the screen is probably a 1080p panel from Sharp. Of course the processor is Qualcomm.
The biggest problem these small relatively no name companies face is the software. It's the brains that makes the smartphone smart, and having a small and inexperienced team, especially while trying to make your own skin, can lead to many shortcomings, from bugs to performance issues to compatibility to poor hardware utilization and battery life. A lot of this stuff even the big boys have trouble with and they have far bigger teams with far more experience. Oppo should go the route that BLU is taking in the future. BLU has a really horrible skin, allegedly, and unstable and buggy phones, but they are supposedly putting stock Android on their new Life series line of phones.
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The screen is from JDI. seems pretty sturdy to me. They seem to be keeping on top of things. But they have a very good reputation in the high end Av community. It's also not their 1st phone. Just their first soiree in the international market.
I have had my Find 5 for more than a week now sans screen protector. Unfortunately, there are lots of micro scratches already. And, I'm very conscious about where I put and use my phone.
Same practice, my Nexus 4 fair much better even after six months of usage.
All in all, have screen protector or don't have too long of finger nails.
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I have a question about the screen durability. I read somewhere, maybe GSMArena, that the screen rippled very easily and was a bit flexible. That sounds very concerning. I've also heard a few things about poor touchscreen response. This may also be hardware only problem that can't be fixed with any updates.
A lot of these smaller phone makers can just buy off the shelf parts (figuratively) and bulid their own phone. They don't need to develop their own hardware components, just how everything fits together and the overall design. The camera is an Exmor RS from Sony, and the screen is probably a 1080p panel from Sharp. Of course the processor is Qualcomm.
The biggest problem these small relatively no name companies face is the software. It's the brains that makes the smartphone smart, and having a small and inexperienced team, especially while trying to make your own skin, can lead to many shortcomings, from bugs to performance issues to compatibility to poor hardware utilization and battery life. A lot of this stuff even the big boys have trouble with and they have far bigger teams with far more experience. Oppo should go the route that BLU is taking in the future. BLU has a really horrible skin, allegedly, and unstable and buggy phones, but they are supposedly putting stock Android on their new Life series line of phones.
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New firmware 328,it has camera fixes...
No marked improvement or fixes to camera with latest firmware.
Just new feature: panorama.
Oppo should focus on fixing all the basic camera problems, rather than, adding gimmick useless feature.
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No marked improvement or fixes to camera with latest firmware.
Just new feature: panorama.
Oppo should focus on fixing all the basic camera problems, rather than, adding gimmick useless feature.
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Wow knite please get back to your iphone.
They tweaked a bit around with the iso settings. But not something really spectaculair.
At least they did something. Most companies will be like :"DEAL WITH IT!"
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Wow knite please get back to your iphone.
They tweaked a bit around with the iso settings. But not something really spectaculair.
At least they did something. Most companies will be like :"DEAL WITH IT!"
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Most company would release software when it's ready and in decent condition for general public consumption... Not beta....or alpha in this case.
Check the camera... Aside from poor image quality.... Do see any basic features like:
Macro
White Balance
Scene Mode
As a matter of fact, on Oppo forums, lots of threads and discussion on how poor the pictures and video are turning out... Oppo just ignore them...basically, saying "DEAL WITH IT!"
Instead, they spent their finite limited development resources in adding useless Panorama feature. When is the last time you took a panorama picture, aside from just wanting to see how it works?
I took a panorama earlier at dinner actually. I did the update out of the box and didn't know it added that so that's cool lol.
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Invites are going out, and devices should be shipping soon. So, if you have a OnePlus X, please give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Tell us about the display, sound, feel, camera, quality or whatever else comes to mind. If you've had any problems, we'd also like to know about that too.
Unboxing pics are encouraged
So, who will go first?
Placed my order. Waiting for it to be shipped to m in London.
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Placed my order. Waiting for it to be shipped to m in London.
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You may very well get something up before the professional reviews come out!
First "real world" experiences are being posted by a user from Paris who was able to grab one at Colette. As I am still a new user, I can't post the link.
Googling "OnePlus X Review" will however do the trick (first hit on oneplus.net).
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First "real world" experiences are being posted by a user from Paris who was able to grab one at Colette. As I am still a new user, I can't post the link.
Googling "OnePlus X Review" will however do the trick (first hit on oneplus.net).
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https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/review-of-oneplus-x.398665/
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Thanks!
Hey, i'm the 20th person who bought it! I was in Paris on monday at Colette !
My review will be short because i'm not that good in english (sorry for that btw).
I really like the phone. It's actually the best design i have ever seen. Looks so premium!
The screen is the only bad point. Whites are kinda yellow and it's blue when you look from the sides.
The camera is really great, better than my z3c.
Battery is good without being amazing. (4h sot)
Only 39k antutu and it's kinda laggy with one game i tried (Minipix). But other games work fine
The phone is really smooth to use
Hey guys, I received my OP X yesterday and I'm actually really satisfated thats celarly the best phone I never had, No lag, Nice 4g, charging actually fast, and ... So beatiful. I recommend it to anyone who wants to get a cheap and powerful device
(Live in Paris got it at Colette)
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Hey, i'm the 20th person who bought it! I was in Paris on monday at Colette !
The camera is really great, better than my z3c.
Battery is good without being amazing. (4h sot)
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here here, I'm coming from a z3c too. Really, the camera is better on the 1+x? Both indoors and outdoors?
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here here, I'm coming from a z3c too. Really, the camera is better on the 1+x? Both indoors and outdoors?
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That's right. But i'm not a professional photographer, i use Auto on both phones. I know some people who can do great things with their z3c thanks to some custom settings
Awesome phone, the new Nexus killer!
Initial impressions
The phone is great until now
Build is simply amazing even if u don't consider the price. The screen too is brilliant, it's a bit over saturated but colours pop and blacks are stunning thanks to the amoled panel. The camera is quick, focus is fast, shots taken in good lighting are great but OK with low lighting. Similar for the front camera. The performance is great. Smooth and fast. Battery life has been good till now. Audio from the downward facing speaker is good imo.
Let's see how it goes
got mine on 7th in india.
battery 6/5
camera 5/5 - need to retest low light performance with the latest 17 mb OTA but without it night shots were average.
screen 6/5
feel4/5 its slippery plastic cover is a must
look 5/5
apps 5/5 no bloatware
cons
camera app needs to give more granular control
permissions control doesnt give the option of hiding device id etc.
fab device overall.
Got mine today. My last device was a sony z3c and ofc this one has some pros and cons facing the previous I had. The OPX has indeed a very good build quality, feels great in the hand. Size is perfect imo. Has no bloatware at all, comparing to the sony that has nothing but bloatware. Talking about this, I missed a gallery app, this phone does not come with an app to show the photos or videos in your device, what in my opinion is a must have, specially in a near stock android rom. Camera is good, fast and precise. Love the gestures features. Sound is loud enough and clear, in the speaker and in calls. It loses to the z3c in battery life once it has a smaller battery and a bigger screen, and once that z3c is one of the most battery friendly devices i knew. In the OPX I miss a fingerprint scanner, fast battery charging and the oxygen OS has a lot of room for improvements.
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Got mine today. My last device was a sony z3c and ofc this one has some pros and cons facing the previous I had. The OPX has indeed a very good build quality, feels great in the hand. Size is perfect imo. Has no bloatware at all, comparing to the sony that has nothing but bloatware. Talking about this, I missed a gallery app, this phone does not come with an app to show the photos or videos in your device, what in my opinion is a must have, specially in a near stock android rom. Camera is good, fast and precise. Love the gestures features. Sound is loud enough and clear, in the speaker and in calls. It loses to the z3c in battery life once it has a smaller battery and a bigger screen, and once that z3c is one of the most battery friendly devices i knew. In the OPX I miss a fingerprint scanner, fast battery charging and the oxygen OS has a lot of room for improvements.
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It does, it comes with google photos lol
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It does, it comes with google photos lol
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Yes you're right but Google Photos is a cloud service, I'm talking about a local gallery app where you can see all your folders and media on the device.
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Yes you're right but Google Photos is a cloud service, I'm talking about a local gallery app where you can see all your folders and media on the device.
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You can see it in Google photos as well. Anyways if it's not your cup of tea, look on OP forums. Someone linked the cyanogenmod gallery app which works well.
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You can see it in Google photos as well. Anyways if it's not your cup of tea, look on OP forums. Someone linked the cyanogenmod gallery app which works well.
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It's not a major problem, I've downloaded some 3rd party app from playstore. By the way, do you know if there's any way to save the pictures taken with the camera in the SD card instead of internal?
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It's not a major problem, I've downloaded some 3rd party app from playstore. By the way, do you know if there's any way to save the pictures taken with the camera in the SD card instead of internal?
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No not yet. In a Q&A session today one of the OP staff said they are planning to implement that in a near future.
I bought my X last Saturday at the London pop-up event. Thankfully I got a VIP invite so queuing wasn't an issue (more than 50m long when I left). A free phone cover (only the plastic ones, no wood (which seem to be plastic with a very thin layer of wood on both sides), no sandstone), a T-shirt, another invite and a notebook (paper ) were in the stylish bag besides the phone.
Much has been said before about the build quality which I can only confirm. It's very slippery though so the transparent phone cover from the box does a good job without disturbing the good looks too much. Don't peel the screen protector off together with the 'Never Settle' sticker!
The screen is good indeed but I would think the one of my OPO isn't worse or rather better, sharper. Thanks to the three LEDs per pixel (is it Pentile? Don't know!) the display is very slightly grainy but you have to look very closely. The screen of my HTC One M7 is definitely sharper though.
All phones are quick when new and this one wasn't an exception. Compared to the Exodus ROM I'm running on the OPO everything seems to be a bit choppy, animations are not as smooth. Turning forced GPU rendering on didn't make a difference. The first OTA update helped a bit but not by a huge margin. So far I haven't noticed any changes after the 2nd OTA update which came yesterday in the morning.
After now full four days I still like the phone for its size, everything works without a problem, no crashes, no freezing, Wifi and BT (tested only with a Braven 625s speaker) work without a glitch and so does Wifi Direct (tested with my Samsung 300NX camera). Charging takes about 2hrs, no QuickCharge here, but that also doesn't work on my OPO despite using an array of QuickCharge enabled chargers (all by Aukey). I seem to get a better phone signal compared to the OPO, Wifi also seems to be a bit stronger. Battery life is good, just about enough for one day with my usage (which at the moment means about 7 hours a day without phone signal (work in a basement) which no doubt reduces the battery life), definitely less than with the OPO but that's not really surprising. I've only tested the camera a few times, in those cases the focus was extremely fast and reliable, the picture quality - watched on the phone and zoomed in to the maximum - isn't DSLR like but still ok for Instagram, Facebook and for watching photos on the phone. No issues with the flash, I can turn it on and off and also the Auto mode works fine.
I'm still a bit torn between the OPO and the X, the latter being the nicer looking one and easier to handle, one-handed in almost all situations. The OPO's screen size is of course better suited to browsing and watching Youtube videos, on the other hand the phone can't be comfortably used one-handed most of the time and it's really big in my Jeans pocket. My OPO with Exodus seems to run a bit smoother, but when I once installed Oxygen on it it was absolutely awfully slow and choppy, so this is maybe rather software-related than down to the hardware.
I'm open for questions but I'm not going to drop the phone to test the durability of the glass panes and I'm also not going to run any battery drain tests. It's really, really strange what sort of people are trolling about in the official OP forums, 50% braindeads I would reckon :cyclops: