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Push email

Does anyone know when push email will be available for the T-Mobile MDA?

it is available in the new roms qtek 2.8 and i-mate 2.16.
hades.

it is available in the new roms qtek 2.8 and i-mate 2.16.
hades.

hi,
what is "pushed mail" ?
thanks

Push e-mail is for E-mail systems that use Microsoft Exchange 2003 SP2. If your company or e-mail provider does not use this then push e-mail is meaningless to you.
Push E-mail = server notifies your phone when you get new message then ActiveSync pulls it to you device

push email for pop3 / imap...?
There are probably a LOT of people using WM5/HTC devices (i.e., new T-Mobile MDA / SDA users) who would love to have the same kind of push email functionality ... but do NOT use exchange server to host their email.
T-Mobile's "my email" (or whatever they call it) can be set up to monitor one or more pop3 / imap email servers and accounts via the configuration web pages at t-mobile.com. A back-office process at t-mobile will check your email accounts on these 3rd party servers periodically, and send you a "silent SMS" if your device and account are configured properly. The phone receives the SMS, and if set right, it opens a connection to your pop3 or imap4 server and retrieves the message.
I've tried this on my new MDA. If I'm already on the net (via USB sync cable or WiFi), it uses that connection -- otherwise, when it receives the silent SMS, it opens a GPRS connection (EDGE if available), retrieves the mail from the pop3/imap4 server via T-Mobile (where you've already keyed in your account info), notifies you according to whatever tone you've selected for this, and displays the incoming email header.
The concept is great -- especially since I signed up for unlimited family messaging for $9.99 a month (for up to 5 phone lines!) -- so there's no concern that all these "silent SMS" messages will create a huge bill. In theory, this could be very similar, functionally, to either blackberry or the new exchange server push email facility.
So far, the only problem is that T-Mobile doesn't seem to be checking my email accounts too frequently. I just sent a test message to my monitored account, and it took 30 minutes before arriving at my MDA.
Great idea...implementation still needs fine-tuning...

texastech31 said:
Push e-mail is for E-mail systems that use Microsoft Exchange 2003 SP2. If your company or e-mail provider does not use this then push e-mail is meaningless to you.
Push E-mail = server notifies your phone when you get new message then ActiveSync pulls it to you device
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ok... i'm ready to be flamed for stupidity. however, be gentle anyway 'cause i'm a nice guy...
my cingular 8125 rom info is below and is the oem. my company runs the latest exchange w/sp2. i use activesync scheduled sync and am set to receive new email when they are sent. i get them automatically usually in a few seconds. i've been told this is not "true" push-mail but instead a triggered pull-mail. meaning that exchange sent an "invisable" sms ping to wake my wizard's activesync to pull-mail. IS THIS CORRECT?
if so, what is the advantage of push-mail in your expert and novice opinions?
TAN
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Hi,
It's not much but who knows, it might be interesting for some people:
I've (very) recently developped a small application which emulates PushMail using operator's SMS notification of a new message.
Description, readme and CAB files are available on this page: http://www-rocq.inria.fr/who/Arnaud.Porterie/projects/PushMail/

SMS delivery is a cool idea.
1 it does not use data. just keeping a GPRS/EDGE connection will sometimes thow a phonecall to VM. crappy.
but on my HTC, SMS wakes up the phone. sometimes unlocks the key lock
2 SMS's sometimes are delayed. not often any more.. I rember Nextel getting messages 3 days later.
push is nice, SMS is nice.. it would be nice if one could backup the other..

how do i get push email on my mda?

i used to have push email with my blackberry. how can i get my yahoo email to be synced/pushed? tia

Read some posts here in the forum. This topic is described very well.
You need an ms exchange email account (eg. http://www.mail2web.com). it's free.
then forward all your yahoo mails to this account of let mail2web fetch them.
configure activesysnc on your device to fetch the mails and thats it.
rgds,
Sebastian

^so does this service automatically send emails directly to me? after looking at the website, it seems like i have to go there to fetch the emails. im looking for something similar to blackberry's email service, where emails come to my device in real time. im sure it's a noob question for i apologize in advance if this has been discussed already.

It works flawlessly with this service.I'm using it for 2 years now, and I dind't have any problems.
Mail2web offers many services. I think you saw the OWA (outlook web access).
With OWA you can have a llok&feel Outlook displayed in a browser.
Search for a howto here in the forum, how to configure your device, and you will see.
It's an easy one.
In active sync on your device you can setup the sync interval. You can set it to: When item arrives.
This is BB style. Therefor you need 24/7 dataconnection.
rgds
Seb

jinwu57 said:
^so does this service automatically send emails directly to me? after looking at the website, it seems like i have to go there to fetch the emails. im looking for something similar to blackberry's email service, where emails come to my device in real time. im sure it's a noob question for i apologize in advance if this has been discussed already.
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Yes, the mail is pushed to your device in real time.

yahoo email forwarding must've been free before but now it wants me to buy the yahoo plus to get that feature.
Is there anotehr way of forwarding yahoo email elsewhere?
i downloaded ypops but it doesnt seem to forward

Mail2web, works a treat.
I briefly read this thread, and 1.5 hours later I had my Yahoo email forwarding to my NTL account which in turn forwarded to my new microsoft web access acount.
which in turn pushes the mail to my mobile.
On your yahoo mail page in the top right is a light blue link 'options'
select that and then on the right hand side is a link to 'pop & forwarding'
And that is where you enter your forwarding address.
Works a treat.
Now if i buy somthing on ebay, within 40 seconds there is a mail on my mobile.
pretty fast i think. and FREE.
Chris

how are you forwarding your yahoo email? Do you have the free account or paid?

bump(*_*) 666666

forwarding yahoo
It is just the free account.
Under your 'my account' add an alternate email address and set this address to primary.
On your yahoo mail page in the top right is a light blue link 'options'
select that and then on the right hand side is a link to 'pop & forwarding'
And that is where you enter your forwarding address.
jinwu57 said:
how are you forwarding your yahoo email? Do you have the free account or paid?
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http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/edit/registration/edit-21.html
thats not it... can u be more detailed on how to forward a yahoo email address without paying for the premium account? I do not see a way to do this.
cduncan1 said:
It is just the free account.
Under your 'my account' add an alternate email address and set this address to primary.
and that is it.
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Mda Push email??
Ive been following Jinwu57 post for a few days now and I would like to also know how to have my mail pushed to my MDA. I followed the post here & setup a http://www.mail2web.com account but it does not work for me. I am unable to sync my mail exchange in ACtivesync, In tools...Server source I get an error. This is very confusing. I have 3 email accounts which are very important to me. My solution was to open up a GMail account. Forward all other email accounts to my Gmail and have tmobile data check every 10minutes. Hope this helps you Jinwu57

Appologies, I had a yahoo group that was forwarding its mail to my NTL account. But I now do have my yahoo account forwarding.
On your yahoo mail page in the top right is a light blue link 'options'
select that and then on the left hand side is a link to 'pop & forwarding'
And that is where you enter your forwarding address.
This also forwards directly to my mail2web.com account. (small bonus)
I hope this is the answer you wanted (this time).
Chris.D.
jinwu57 said:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/edit/registration/edit-21.html
thats not it... can u be more detailed on how to forward a yahoo email address without paying for the premium account? I do not see a way to do this.
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those options are not available on free accounts. Perhaps you obtained ur yahoo account when pop/forwarding was free.

yahoo mail forwarding.
I have only had the yahoo account about 2 or 3 weeks.
I'm not sure I described it well enough.
From the options menu you have to select 'mail options'.
then on the left I get 'pop & forwarding' options available.
You might have more luck with the yahoo clasic view.
Options (in the top right of your mail window)
then the option for 'pop & forwarding' is in the middle of the page under the management column.
also found this link that shows that forwarding is possible in both free and plus(payed) services:
http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/plus/info/
I don't know that there is much more I can say, but if you have further question on this, please email me or send a personal message, as this is a bit off topic now.
Thanks.
Chris.
jinwu57 said:
those options are not available on free accounts. Perhaps you obtained ur yahoo account when pop/forwarding was free.
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Yahoo push mail
Don't know if you guys know this or not, but Yahoo now has a mobile client for PPC and SP that gives you lots of stuff, including push mail. No need to forward stuff or anything like that.
I'm running that on both my phones and I must say that it is quite good. Check it out here: Yahoo Go! and download the client.
Quakie

Sounds good. There is an advantage to using mail2web, though. No extra app is required on your PPC, it works with ActiveSync and your PPC's email app.
and is therefore hardly any extra burden on the PPC's memory.
Good addition though.
Chris.D.
Quakie said:
Don't know if you guys know this or not, but Yahoo now has a mobile client for PPC and SP that gives you lots of stuff, including push mail. No need to forward stuff or anything like that.
I'm running that on both my phones and I must say that it is quite good. Check it out here: Yahoo Go! and download the client.
Quakie
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has anyone tried Emoze from www.emoze.com. N do u need to have gprs to get emails.

Is there a way in mail2web to change the 'from' address? I can't find any.

thank you very much!!!

Googlemail ( resolved)

Can someone please give me some simple instructions on how to set up googlemail push. I have googlemail set up and email frequency box is set at 5 minutes, it gives no option for push. I have not found the option to sync contacts etc. Maybe I am having another senior moment!! Thank you.

Check out the beta section on google sync website -That should give you the info you need. I have not got it to work yet though.

Belynda said:
Can someone please give me some simple instructions on how to set up googlemail push. I have googlemail set up and email frequency box is set at 5 minutes, it gives no option for push. I have not found the option to sync contacts etc. Maybe I am having another senior moment!! Thank you.
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if you create an new email account, don't select the gmail option. You need to create an active sync (exchange) connection... then you have push mail. instructions are indeed on the google sync beta page....

Many thanks, I will head over there now

in activesync app, type your gmail email and password, server is m.google.com ., go thru options for cal, contacts, and email, frequency, and peak times.

gavinfabl said:
in activesync app, type your gmail email and password, server is m.google.com ., go thru options for cal, contacts, and email, frequency, and peak times.
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Thank you
Now got the phone to push, new problem is that the notification sound does not work with it at present, could this have anything to do with still having the ordinary googlemail on the phone?? Do I need to remove it????

Getting in a mess here I deleted the original googlemail, now I have none.

Belynda said:
Thank you
Now got the phone to push, new problem is that the notification sound does not work with it at present, could this have anything to do with still having the ordinary googlemail on the phone?? Do I need to remove it????
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dont think so. I prefer using activesync for google contacts and calendar, and setting up gmail but without push in the email inbox. You should get email noises, no matter if both are there. Go to home screen, settings tab, menu, all settings, sounds and notifications, tab sounds, scroll to new email and check options are ticked as needed.

I can't get the push to work despite having hard reset the phone a couple of times. ( now got to get my music and photo's back on)
Contacts not so bad as they will sync with myphone.
I think I am going to have to go back to normal google syncing every 5 minutes. unless someone has another solution.
Thanks for your help

it may be your network not allowing it. make sure proxy is off in connections (settings, all settings, connections, connections, manage , edit, proxy)

gavinfabl said:
it may be your network not allowing it. make sure proxy is off in connections (settings, all settings, connections, connections, manage , edit, proxy)
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Thanks again,
Proxy is off.
Network O2 , I have had push email with Hero and O2.

I don't know what happened or that I did anything but push has decided to suddenly work!!!
Thanks for all your help.

Belynda said:
I don't know what happened or that I did anything but push has decided to suddenly work!!!
Thanks for all your help.
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Can you maybe post a small howto on the setup (srver and client site)?
I think that this would help a lot of users who would like to have this!

If I use GMail, but use my own domain instead of @gmail.com, can I still do Push Email?

jackhappy said:
If I use GMail, but use my own domain instead of @gmail.com, can I still do Push Email?
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Your provider will need to support this.
It's NOT a normal thing they do.
Only "free" push providers that I know of are Gmail and Hotmail (live)

htc-hd2 said:
Can you maybe post a small howto on the setup (srver and client site)?
I think that this would help a lot of users who would like to have this!
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Sure!
This is what worked for me after lots of attempts.
I deleted the original IMAP googlemail account
Iwent to activesync
Put in my googlemail address ie [email protected]
Password xxxxxxx ignore tha fact that it then adds extra digits.
Save password
leave domain name blank
username will come up as santa, this needs changing to [email protected]
edit server will come up and this is m.google.com
Choose the data you want to sync
Choose schedule as items arrive
The forst sync I had to press send and receive thereafter it worked.
What was confusing me before was the fact that I had the phone charging in the computer as I set up, it would not sync until I unplugged it. After unplugging it only pushed new mail not the mail already on the server.
I hope this makes some sense I am very new to this.

Ok.. Looks easy. Did you set anything in your gmail account on the server?
Also. I'm not sure if thats your true e-mail address, but if so, and if you do not like spam, you better remove it from your post!
Lot's of spam bots WILL get your e-mail address, and use it for sending spam to you!

Ok I managed to get it working after a bit, but syncing still seems slow. Also when I send a message from the phone it shows up in my mail client inbox anyway to stop this happening.

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Ok.. Looks easy. Did you set anything in your gmail account on the server?
Also. I'm not sure if thats your true e-mail address, but if so, and if you do not like spam, you better remove it from your post!
Lot's of spam bots WILL get your e-mail address, and use it for sending spam to you!
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No not my real email address it is of course santa's and he does not mind mail!
Did not set anything on server.

did anybody try to send a mail with some attachment to your gmail push account? When i get the mail on my device, i can see the attachment, however, i cannot open it or save it. When i click on the attachment it says downloading... but still cannot open or save it? does it work for you guys?

Dont suppose anyone can help me with my weird email problem!

I have a Nexus One working fine on Orange.
I use it for my Blueyonder email account which is set up just the same as it was on my Hero.
The problem is this:
I get the email notification to say i have new emails, then i go into my emails and the emails are there. Then it starts to refresh my emails and then before my eyes there all disappear! It deletes them before i have chance to read them.
If i then go onto my pc to check my emails there are none there. So its obviously deleting them from the server.
Now i have checked double and triple checked the settings.Its definitely not set to delete from server or even delete when read.
Any help will be appreciated as i dont know what is going on and I'm losing important emails.

I take it you are using the native email client?
Maybe this is not the answer that you are looking for but I use the Gmail App instead of the native Email client. That way I get the benefit of Push without having to refresh.
If you are interested in doing the same then all you have to do is..on your PC:
Gmail > Settings > Accounts and Import > Check mail using POP3: > Add POP3 email account.
Then all blueyonder emails will be pushed to the Gmail App and you can set a label for them as well.

Yes i am. I`m just upset that it doesnt work just like the Hero did. That was spot on..
I`ll try your idea if no one comes up with a solution for me. Cheers.

I agree with Abbsta... you should to add your blueyonder account to gmail and receive all your blueyonder emails in gmail account.
it is much easier and being a google phone it works well with gmail accounts...

I did what you said and its spot on cheers..

Just an update. Spoke to HTC had no idea why it was doing but suggested i use imap instead of pop3.
It worked!

[Q] No "new mail" page, cannot write new ones

I got a problem with my HD mini.
When i try from sense mail window start a new mail i am only moved to account list. Then i chosing Gmail and from Inbox window again chosing Menu>New and nothing happen.
Anybody knows what happen?
(mailbox is setup well from Gmail Help tutorial - o could receive e-mails but cannot write new ones).

if u have arabizer uninstall that and try for new mail..

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if u have arabizer uninstall that and try for new mail..
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Arabizer? What's that?

I have the same problem..... when I push "new Mail" from HTC Sense mail page or when I push Manu->New Mail in mail inbox view, nothing happens...
Any help, please?

Now it works
I don't know what the problem was, but I have upgraded the ROM and now I'm enabled to send new mail messages.
bye