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Is it true that you have to do the flip-and-rotate dance everytime, when you have to receive the call(or make the call) & when you dont want to use the speakerphone ??
I leave my phone in the closed clam position, got Microsoft Voice which tells me who's calling, so all I have to do is push the red or green on the side to ignore/answer the call...
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I leave my phone in the closed clam position, got Microsoft Voice which tells me who's calling, so all I have to do is push the red or green on the side to ignore/answer the call...
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but what if you are in laptop/clamshell mode?
then do u have to do the flip and rotate dance?
If you are laptop/clamshell mode, you can just answer with the buttons on the hinge, and answer the call with it shut. You probably wouldn't want it unnecessarily rotated, since you'll get face grease on your screen.
If you want to see who's calling, a quick lift and shut is all you need.
Cheers,
Steve.
imate blows
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you that my experience thus far has been really ****ty as far as using this unit as a phone. the reason I say this, is that despite having updated my unit to the latest ROM upgrade , I'm still experiencing missed calls!
This despite my repeated attempts at contacting the clowns at the live online service at imate. Their email service has been better, but has yet to offer resolution to this immense problem. I say immense b/c I have paid around a grand for a pda with a phone which is completely unreliable as a phone.
Bear in mind, this is my imate experience.
hope this helps.
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edved said:
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you that my experience thus far has been really ****ty as far as using this unit as a phone. the reason I say this, is that despite having updated my unit to the latest ROM upgrade , I'm still experiencing missed calls!
This despite my repeated attempts at contacting the clowns at the live online service at imate. Their email service has been better, but has yet to offer resolution to this immense problem. I say immense b/c I have paid around a grand for a pda with a phone which is completely unreliable as a phone.
Bear in mind, this is my imate experience.
hope this helps.
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LOL you paid how much? you must be one of the unlucky ones. since I got my device, I've not really had a problem with the phone part, just the camera at the moment, which seems to be rom related.
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edved said:
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you that my experience thus far has been really ****ty as far as using this unit as a phone. the reason I say this, is that despite having updated my unit to the latest ROM upgrade , I'm still experiencing missed calls!
This despite my repeated attempts at contacting the clowns at the live online service at imate. Their email service has been better, but has yet to offer resolution to this immense problem. I say immense b/c I have paid around a grand for a pda with a phone which is completely unreliable as a phone.
Bear in mind, this is my imate experience.
hope this helps.
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LOL you paid how much? you must be one of the unlucky ones. since I got my device, I've not really had a problem with the phone part, just the camera at the moment, which seems to be rom related.
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edved said:
I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you that my experience thus far has been really ****ty as far as using this unit as a phone. the reason I say this, is that despite having updated my unit to the latest ROM upgrade , I'm still experiencing missed calls!
This despite my repeated attempts at contacting the clowns at the live online service at imate. Their email service has been better, but has yet to offer resolution to this immense problem. I say immense b/c I have paid around a grand for a pda with a phone which is completely unreliable as a phone.
Bear in mind, this is my imate experience.
hope this helps.
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LOL you paid how much? you must be one of the unlucky ones. since I got my device, I've not really had a problem with the phone part, just the camera at the moment, which seems to be rom related.
I have never had any problem with the phone. But I have taken a couple of actions:
1. Disable the video phone component, it is bloaty and if you dont use video phones saves 3mb of operating RAM
2. I extended the time it takes to go through to voice mail from 10 seconds to 30 seconds
3. I dont vet any calls, if available, I just answer from the hinge whilst close, so I dont do any flipping to see first
4. My phone always answers at the beginning of the second ring, that with a 30 seconds to voice mail works fine
5. I never let my phone go below 15mb of available ram so it doesnt slow down.
So as a phone, its fine, as a pda its brilliant.
how d'ya do that
1. Disable the video phone component, it is bloaty and if you dont use video phones saves 3mb of operating RAM
is this an easy thing o do?
cheers.
very easy, its posted on WIKI.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry
States
To set or remove the operator phone skin
The setting is at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin'
The 'Enabled' DWORD value can be set to '1' to show the operator skin or '0' to show the default skin
For example, to show the default skin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin\Enabled = 0
You should try the link to view many of the registry hacks for the universal.
There is also a maintained forum on hacks with downloadable cabs here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry
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LOL you paid how much? you must be one of the unlucky ones. since I got my device, I've not really had a problem with the phone part, just the camera at the moment, which seems to be rom related.[/quote]
Can't say I use the camera much, except perhaps for the strange or abnormal chest xray I may see at work. Otherwise useless.
Yes, I ended up paying a grand for this thing. Impulse purchase. What did you pay jojo?
I paid $1500 AUD, about $1100 USD.
I have always bought my phone outright for an unlocked phone that is not dependent or tied into a phone network.
Plus there are extended taxation benefits....
I love mine as a phone, best reception on both ends I have ever found with a phone.
Like everyones said, you can essentially answer a call 4 ways.
1. Default (clamshell shut)
2. Open it and flip it to portrait mode
3. Open it and use it in laptop mode w/speaker phone
4. Bluetooth headset.
personally the idea of Microsoft Voice Command sounds good cos I like to know whos calling, have it tell me would be pleasent
In any case, despite the ringtone not kicking in till the end of the second ring, I have scarecely missed a call. Actually short of not having the phone in an audible radius of me I dont think I have missed a call.
Its always good to have system memory but I dont notice a change in the phone service when my ram dips below 15mb.
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LOL you paid how much? you must be one of the unlucky ones. since I got my device, I've not really had a problem with the phone part, just the camera at the moment, which seems to be rom related.
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Can't say I use the camera much, except perhaps for the strange or abnormal chest xray I may see at work. Otherwise useless.
Yes, I ended up paying a grand for this thing. Impulse purchase. What did you pay jojo?[/quote]
I paid £150.00 for mine
so u mean i can answer a call with clamshell shut ??
is that true?
The answer to your question is yes. You can answer the phone with the clamshell shut.
Cons:
You will not be able to see who is calling.
You will need bluetooth or wired headset to answer the phone.
Caller ID numbers are available but not the caller name on Bluetooth devices like the BT800.
Personally, I use my Qtek 9000 more as a PDA than a phone.
It's a much better PDA than it is a phone. The keyboard and the screen on the Universal are the main reason why I bought it.
My advise, if you're planning on using it more as a phone than a PDA, then consider other devices. As a phone, it's heavy and bulky. As a PDA, I can only sing praises (except for the occasional soft resets that I have to do).
FYI, here are the main uses that I use the Universal for:
1). Streaming music while I'm driving
2). Watching avi files while I'm on break
3). Daily planner
4). Going online to check on info
5). GPS device with software and an external bluetooth GPS receiver
6). MSN messenger while I'm on road trips
Hope that helps in your decision.
I don't know how much you'll be paying for the Universal. I did pay a lot for it (since it's not available in the US with any cellular companies) but I consider one of the best investments I've made in a PDA/Phone.
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The answer to your question is yes. You can answer the phone with the clamshell shut.
Cons:
You will not be able to see who is calling.
You will need bluetooth or wired headset to answer the phone.
Caller ID numbers are available but not the caller name on Bluetooth devices like the BT800.
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Incorrect, the phone will answer perfectly well if you just pick it up and press the green button on the hinge. The three holes on the right of the case are for the sound to come through and the mic is at the bottom on the left of the keyboard.
This is a well thought out device.
If you have personalised ringtones for most of your contacts you should have a pretty good idea of who is calling anyway.
thanks everyone for blurring away the doubts
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modem_man said:
The answer to your question is yes. You can answer the phone with the clamshell shut.
Cons:
You will not be able to see who is calling.
You will need bluetooth or wired headset to answer the phone.
Caller ID numbers are available but not the caller name on Bluetooth devices like the BT800.
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Incorrect, the phone will answer perfectly well if you just pick it up and press the green button on the hinge. The three holes on the right of the case are for the sound to come through and the mic is at the bottom on the left of the keyboard.
This is a well thought out device.
If you have personalised ringtones for most of your contacts you should have a pretty good idea of who is calling anyway.
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Or... Get Microsoft Voice 1.5, and the fantastic patch by R. Works A1 on mine, I keep the phone clam shut in a zip case. And get a "Call from X" loud and clear telling me who's calling... no need to open or owt, just red/green on the hinge... fantastic...
Does anybody know if the roms we are putting on our phones allow for this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G1fNjK9SXg
I'm not really paranoid so much as I am curious. Okay... maybe a little paranoid... but it's not paranoia if they really are out to get me
Not surprising. I am fairly certain the cell carriers have to give access to the datastream, and its not OS dependent. Any phone authorized on the carriers network is a potential microphone.
doesn't it have to be a modified handset or something? i thought I saw this story getting debunked on one of the other forums here a while ago. Somewhere in "general" maybe? anyone remember?
TBH when I hear something on fox news without even any squeak of an indication of a source; I tend to take it with an even bigger pinch of salt than I take the mainstream corporate media in general (that's a lot of salt.)
Phone needs to have gps equipped in the phone..But it can...why i know this.. i know someone and not a friend of a friend that was tapped by local atf agents thru his cellphone... Luckily for him he lived out of service. Usually when they say gps enabled phone... They're triangulating between three towers hence triang... Anyway from what i thought the mda doesnt not have a gps chip in it so were safe.. Unless im retarted and then i was right about everything until the last statement...
Ask me how i know?? Google it damn it
Actually, they don't need to triangulate on a gps-equipped phone. If they have your cell number, they can work with your provider and you can be triangulated based upon your signal strength and proximity between 3 cell towers. GPS has nothing to do with that.
Yep, my brothers a cop and they tracked a murder suspect through his cell phone and it was just a regualar cell phone. It's the same way that if you dial 911 they can track you to within like 10 feet of your location if I remember right, it might be even closer than that. If you have a cell phone, then they can track you if they need to. The only way to get around it is to not have any service at all or to turn your phone completely off.
By the way, they have to get a court order to do that, well that is unless you work for Bush's homeland security and then I guess you can do whatever you want whenever you want.
all cell phones sold in the US as of 1/1/06 have to be equiped with a gps chip that can be activated by your service provider or emergency services. i worked in cell phone sales when this law took effect.
i think that you are all little bit paranoid and would actually love that this can be true but it can't.
It's easy ...how the f can they locate a turned off phone when the network can't find it..cos it's turned off, right ?
In order to activate the microphone and send pretty big amounts of data, that would be impossible if you have no network coverage....remember, the phone is off. Maybe they can radio control the remote mic in order to turn on ...but still...really really hard to swallow.
And one more thing...why the hell would the us gov would spend that kind of cash to listen to your calls ? Stupid is one thing but this is totally a waste of money...so don't worry guys. The mob phones that they were talking...they can exist but only if made custom.
UK Listening
A technician i met from BT ages ago mentioned this wasy possible and used quite often even more so now.
Triangulating on your phone location, that very well possible. Getting a normal phone to send signal when it is off, is rather.. technological impossible. From what it seems, the only way these FBI is able to do that is to swap your phone with a modified version (e.g. like the movie 'Enemy of the State').
However, if you are REALLY paranoid, you can do a simple test. For a mobile phone to send any major signal out, it will causes big interference. Example, putting it next to a speaker, a TV, and it will give your speaker / TV some form of distortion. If your phone where to be sending out any form of signal, you ought to able to detect it in such way.
As how to activate the microphone when the phone is off, that's another story. The best possible way to do this, without being very obvious, is to act passively, like an old fashion pager, that sits and receive instructions. However, to do this, one will need a hardware that is switch on, on this *modified* phone. If your phone is authentic, then it needs to be done if on any exploitable bug within the phone firmware, and that ought to be phone specific.
Conclusion, it will be safe for most of us. Anyway, I would wish this technology is real, and if that's case, all those terrorist will have been caught very easy.
My question is if the phone is really completely off when it's powered down. Has anyone measured to see if there is any battery drain while the phone is powered off? If there's none, then there wouldn't really be a way that I can think of for this to be possible. If there is a drain, then it gets closer to the realm of possibility.
I think I'd be a bit careful with the idea of giving up freedoms and liberties for the illusion of security. It's a good idea to be critical of any Government asking their citizens to give them up for any reason. In a perfect world, only terrorists and "bad guys" would be negatively affected, unfortunately innocent people always end up being caught in the crossfire.
That would be easy to track unless you use Cingular...
THEY cannot even get a connection to you phone sometimes (J/K)
You could easily tell though because you think what happens when you turn wifi on your battery goes down so fast its the same when there listening in cause your phone is sending and recieving data all the time. The tracking technology has been around for quite a bit theres a public version for parents to track the kids and stuff but they cant track them when the phone is off.
Uhm ... News like this can see in Austria too ... but its more like Hacked Blue Tooth Headsets they use for Spying. If FBI switch you Phone to any Spymode ... the Batterie Drain is very high!
spying with your phone
i know there is software available which NEED TO BE INSTALLED on your phone.
after installation you can call the phone and use the mic to listen what is said in the neighbourhood.
this piece of software is often used by woman or man who wants to catch their cheeting partner
Excuse the noobness but I did search and only came up with 4 results and none answered my question? Is there a work around to be able to listen to my S9's bluetooth stereo headset on my ATT 8525 while in flight?
thanx in advance for any help.
um flight mode is for turning ALL RF off. including BT. it could interfere with the flight systems and send you all to a firey death.
same as hospitals.
use headphones.
Another Approach
The other solution (once "approved devices are allowed" is to just turn off the phone in comm manager and not turn off the bluetooth (Yes, it requires two actions instead of the easier "flight mode" option, which turns off all RF transmissions from your phone).
Hope this helps!
8500 no camera
vp3G 3.62 rom
1.54.07 radio
It's actually a myth that electronic devices could screw up the aircraft. The FAA is actually worried that the aircraft's radar could screw up electronic devices. Yes, the problem is the other way around.
In any case, flight mode turns off everything. Just go into the comm manager and turn bluetooth on separately.
Doom Tints said:
It's actually a myth that electronic devices could screw up the aircraft. The FAA is actually worried that the aircraft's radar could screw up electronic devices. Yes, the problem is the other way around.
In any case, flight mode turns off everything. Just go into the comm manager and turn bluetooth on separately.
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Actually the radar part is only if the CE is placed in a lobe of the radar signal.
But I can say with 100% personal experience that a phone can cause issues with navigational equipment.
Not sure where you got your info from Doom, but I am a Part-121 pilot. I have heard of people actually be arrested for using the devices in flight.
Woah, the bull**** phone is ringing.
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Ok Doom... just because you didn't like the answer, don't shoot the messenger. If you doubt you could be arrested for it how about you look up "Interference with Flight Crew Members and Attendants". If you claim that my statements about being a pilot are the BS part... well then don't know what to tell you other than I would be more than happy to scan my ID and blank out a few parts.
rgreenpc said:
Actually the radar part is only if the CE is placed in a lobe of the radar signal.
But I can say with 100% personal experience that a phone can cause issues with navigational equipment.
Not sure where you got your info from Doom, but I am a Part-121 pilot. I have heard of people actually be arrested for using the devices in flight.
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actually it has been proven that phones and electronic devices do NOT interfere with navigational equipment. check out mythbusters for the proof. great show.
I thought in that episode of mythbusters that it was plausible that it could cause interference. I'd always thought it was bunk but for some reason I thought I saw that episode and they did show some interference? Maybe I'm crazy
im pretty sure they said it was busted. im gonna have to look on youtube lol if im wrong my apologies but seems like i remember thinking that that was another dumb law (the other i was thinking was dumb was the no cell phones at the gas pumps)
Well I can tell you despite what the Mythbusters say I have with "my own two eyes" seen what can happen if someone turns on a phone. Granted it doesn't happen with EVERY phone, nor does it happen with every phone of the same type.
I have had my phone on in the cockpit (forgot to turn it off) and haven't had issues, but then one time I did and swore it would never happen again.
It is more than likely due to crappy construction, leaky (RF-wsie) internals etc.
Would someone ever get caught doing it? Perhaps... perhaps not, but I do know that I wouldn't want to be the one caught.
well who can gaurantee that all passengers have modern phones? i know mine causes the clock radio and car radio to get MASSIVE inteference when recieving or making calls.
i don't want to be that guy who caused the pilot to miss the " LOOK OUT! THERES ANOTHER PLANE HEADING RIGHT FOR YOU!" message over his radio.
or maybe you think having the convenience of you cell phone is worth it.
"At least i have the comfort of wireless headphones to listen to my MP3's to drown out the screaming passengers" lol
MB is a fantastic show imo but they cant account for every concievable variable. I'm still not gonna let a guy shoot at me with a 50 caliber tank rifle when im swimming just because they said the bullet wouldnt penetrate 3 ft of water.
I have to rave on this stereo BT head set. I have been tying to find one that I like for quite some time really exercising the 30 day return policies. I wanted somthing that had the best of both worlds, regular mono ear piece and an atachable ear bud for the stereo and this one has deffinatly got it right. Best sound yet, best fit and good looking. I was very impresed I think this one is a keeper, oh one down fall the price but still under $120.
I have one since december. It is (was) great, but...
The concept is great. The size too. The sound is OK to good with both earplugs. Problems are:
- the connection of the second earplug with the main one (the one with the battery) is very, very sensitive. After two months of use, it became so loose that I lost contact and couldn't use the stereo anymore. They should have made it like a "screw" plug or even an small USB plug, or RCA plug. The way it is, two small metal plates on the setero plug that have to "touch" another two small metal plates in the main plug is too sensitive and unreliable for real usage.
- two weeks ago, the place where you connected the stereo plug and which now I was using to plug the ear hook broke...
- Now I'm using it just with the earbud... only six months.
Again, great concept, and bad implemantation. I even thought about buying another one and use it more gently, but I guess that's unrealistic. I believe I should be able to put the headphone in my pocket or bag without worring too much.
duplicate, sorry.
southsideservz said:
I have to rave on this stereo BT head set. I have been tying to find one that I like for quite some time really exercising the 30 day return policies. I wanted somthing that had the best of both worlds, regular mono ear piece and an atachable ear bud for the stereo and this one has deffinatly got it right. Best sound yet, best fit and good looking. I was very impresed I think this one is a keeper, oh one down fall the price but still under $120.
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I found and bought mine (Voyager 855) after searching on the internet...plain white box, plenty of replacement pieces, for onlyl.... ready for this....
$46.00.
The only issue I ever had was making sure it was connected when I needed it, installing A2DPToggle solved that issue, and all is now right with the world.
MBN
PS: got mine at cellphoneshop.net/855.html and have had several coworkers order from them and all has worked out well. Unfortunately, they've been out of stock for about a month now
MustBNuts said:
I found and bought mine (Voyager 855) after searching on the internet...plain white box, plenty of replacement pieces, for onlyl.... ready for this....
$46.00.
The only issue I ever had was making sure it was connected when I needed it, installing A2DPToggle solved that issue, and all is now right with the world.
MBN
PS: got mine at cellphoneshop.net/855.html and have had several coworkers order from them and all has worked out well. Unfortunately, they've been out of stock for about a month now
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How did A2DPToggle solve what? Mine stays connected most of the time.
SouthSideSvz,
before I installed the toggle, for unknown reasons the connection would drop and I found reconnecting a pain....
A caveat, though, this was happening when I first got the phone and the earpiece....haven't had any problems since then. But I have heard that the BT can drain the battery, so with the toggle I can shut down BT on the phone side too.
How much of it is a crutch, who knows... but I like it!
MBN
MustBNuts said:
SouthSideSvz,
before I installed the toggle, for unknown reasons the connection would drop and I found reconnecting a pain....
A caveat, though, this was happening when I first got the phone and the earpiece....haven't had any problems since then. But I have heard that the BT can drain the battery, so with the toggle I can shut down BT on the phone side too.
How much of it is a crutch, who knows... but I like it!
MBN
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I just bought this same headset, and have also experienced it dropping connection and being hard to get reconnected. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong. At this point, do you think the toggle app is actually helping the problem?
I'm wondering if it's not just the simple fact that you turn bluetooth off and on, so it sort of resets itself, rather than anything this program does differently. However, I'm more than willing to give it a try!
I have one since about 6 months ago. A friend of mine that works at Plantronics Mexico gave it to me as a present and to test it out.
Honestly it's been a great product, it even survived a trip to the washer machine and it's still ticking!
The only problem I see with this particular set is that the connector on the loop is really flimsy (I'm on my second loop) so you'd better be careful and never let it plugged in while you store it on your pants or backpack, it breaks really easy (maybe it's just because my unit it's a pre-production set) but be careful nevertheless.
The sound is really bassy and loud for such small speakers it has very nice sound range.
The battery lasts for a few days of moderate use on stereo and a few weeks moderate use on mono.
One thing I like about it (which many will find disturbing) is that it isolates all sound from the exterior, so be careful while driving or things like that.
I give a 8.5/10 to this product.
I liked mine as much as you did, but then it didn't last long enough as I explained above.
I do believe they can change the implementation and keep all its good qualities that are many (let's be honest, there is not one other set that is as discreet/small and less cumbersome than this). I would know how to do it, so they just have to be willing to do so, I guess.
Perhaps you can pass my ideas to your friend. I would share them for free...
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I liked mine as much as you did, but then it didn't last long enough as I explained above.
I do believe they can change the implementation and keep all its good qualities that are many (let's be honest, there is not one other set that is as discreet/small and less cumbersome than this). I would know how to do it, so they just have to be willing to do so, I guess.
Perhaps you can pass my ideas to your friend. I would share them for free...
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I will pass the info to my friend ASAP. However as far as I know, the Bluetooth Division was recently moved to China...
I remember my pal told me beforehand that this particular model has some (undisclosed) issues (well he mentioned battery not lasting long enough). Same with a newer mono model called Diamond or something like that.
Hey, these are just user's ideas. I'm not talking about engineering stuff.
They seem to be simple things (though you never know) like:
- connection of the stereo earbud: the way it is, it is just two metal plates touching each other. Very easy for things to get loose and lose contact. Happened with me. They either should use a RCA type plug or USB type plug (most likely).
- Also the stereo connection is also used to help support the headset on our ears. Fact is the headset weight is put on...THE STEREO CONTACTS, helping them get loose. So, Ear hook should be separated from connection to relieve it from weight stress.
- they could position the stereo connection where presently is the charger, and perhaps (if possible) make the connection be dual function like the Kaiser, where you can use the mini-USB both to charge and to connect headphone.
My two cents. Seems feasible.
Got my voyager 855 and it's sounds muffled on one earbud (the one with buttons). Using Tilt with one of the hybrid Dutty roms. The one you piggyback to main unit sounds much louder and very clear. Tested also without putting them in ear and with eargels off, switched ears. Anything I can try before requesting a replacement?
Thanks!
Haha sorry guys for posting an essentially pointless thread but I've been ALWAYS wanting an Advantage and I finally got one coming for a good deal. I'm pretty geeked. I also have a Touch as a backup so I may only use this during certain situtations. My main and ONLY concern was that it doesn't have an earpiece but I'll figure something out. I think I may take a BT headset apart and flatten it to the back or something. I'm sure I'll post my efforts here so look out.
Does anyone have a suggestion to what the "best" ROM is available? I'm looking for speed and stability and one that works with GSEN on an x7500.
Cheers
no clue since i own the 7510
but GSEN works perfectly for me.
Coolest thing is when watching videos in CorePlayer, with GSEN, it rotates on the fly, and it doesn;t matter how you have the thing aligned, it'll always show it correctly
AllGamer said:
no clue since i own the 7510
but GSEN works perfectly for me.
Coolest thing is when watching videos in CorePlayer, with GSEN, it rotates on the fly, and it doesn;t matter how you have the thing aligned, it'll always show it correctly
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Sweet can't wait. My luck it won't work on the 7500...
if you want gsen to work with your 7500, you would have to download roms made by irus or sogarth. i've installed these on my 7500 and gsen works just fine. if you don't install these roms, most likely you will come up with a message saying "cannot locate gsen 3" or something like that. so far these roms that they've released are the best for the 7500 (if you want to have the autorotate feature). although gsen will work, there are many applications / games (ported out from the htc diamond) that work for some and at the same don't work at all for others.
however, roms by michy are also fantastic...though they don't support gsen....but i think he's working on that =)
congrats, juice. Its definitely not intuitive/easy-to-use in the phone department, not like most dedicated phones on the market. I recently went back to using an old flip phone for a week (trip to Disney, didn't want to loose or damage my Athena) and it definitely made me yearn for ease-of-use for simple phone calls. But, with a device that can almost literally do everything you have to accept some trade-off.
Many of us use the Jabra BT8010. It somewhat makes up for the shortfalls since its has vibrate, caller ID, and gives you a private earpiece. Also gives you stereo of you want that.
I've been thinking about trying to find a cheap flip or candybar phone that supports bluetooth HFP with Athena as host, or HSP, or PBAP and SAP, or maybe CTP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile ). Bottom line, the ability to use the dedicated phone as a phone without having its own SIM. But, it would be a larger solution than just sticking with my 8010 and would probably need charging every other day so I stick with my 8010. The battery on the 8010 lasts forever.
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congrats, juice. Its definitely not intuitive/easy-to-use in the phone department, not like most dedicated phones on the market. I recently went back to using an old flip phone for a week (trip to Disney, didn't want to loose or damage my Athena) and it definitely made me yearn for ease-of-use for simple phone calls. But, with a device that can almost literally do everything you have to accept some trade-off.
Many of us use the Jabra BT8010. It somewhat makes up for the shortfalls since its has vibrate, caller ID, and gives you a private earpiece. Also gives you stereo of you want that.
I've been thinking about trying to find a cheap flip or candybar phone that supports bluetooth HFP with Athena as host, or HSP, or PBAP and SAP, or maybe CTP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile ). Bottom line, the ability to use the dedicated phone as a phone without having its own SIM. But, it would be a larger solution than just sticking with my 8010 and would probably need charging every other day so I stick with my 8010. The battery on the 8010 lasts forever.
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Good info thanks alot. Yeah I sometimes take a bunch of calls and sometimes hardly ever. I'm thinking I'm just going to ignore calls that I can call back later in private over speaker. I'm also going to try and stick my ear up to the speaker(probably not possible since the speakers look located on the side). Holy $hi4 would that be hilarious looking. But my main prob will be the calls that I have to take in public... I'm serious about flattening out a BT headset to the back or side.
Have you seen the guy who put a BT headset in a glove? Same concept. Take apart a BT headset it ends up being mostly wires and/or a little chip(s). Maybe put a slight mold/cover over it so there might be a minimum hump. But at the size it already is wouldn't be a deal breaker in any shape or form. It however would need to be charged separately. I'm going to be carrying it without keyboard or case so I'm trying to minimalize it's "footprint" all around. Having to carry another piece of tech like a BT headset I think would get very annoying. I will probably keep one in the car though.
Speaking of the car, thats another reason I'm getting this. My commute to work just doubled and I always wanted a "car computer". IMHO mounting an Advantage(or a UMPC for that matter) is the quickest easiest way to do that. I can watch the news on my way home from work via Sling(not that I would ever do that because it's very dangerous and probably illegal). Check realtime weather not to mention big screen GPS. Oh can't wait to test Live Search with the Satellite view. I also got some webcams set around my house that now I can watch in VGA!
This is going to be interesting.
not sure what you find so hard about the Athena as a phone.
but using any BT headset, specially the Jabra BT8010, you can do a simple 1 click, and say who you want to dial, and it dials it for you.
sooooo easy to use.
my Palm Treo never worked so well, even with th same features.
techntrek said:
and it definitely made me yearn for ease-of-use for simple phone calls. But, with a device that can almost literally do everything you have to accept some trade-off.
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Dedicated phones are 1-hand friendly, with all my other phones (since 1993) I've been able to use memory dialing or even dial a new number without even looking at the phone while going down the road.
With my BT in my pocket where I can't get it when I'm driving, its a multi-step process to make an outgoing phone call right from the Athena... turn off BT takes 3 button presses, then dialing can take from 2 to many more... then turn BT back on when I'm done... and most if it also can't be done with one hand.
Nothing as easy as using a dedicated phone, even with my old Motorola Star-Tac.
hey juiceppc - also make sure you upgrade your phone to radio 1.58 if you are often in 3G coverage. Otherwise I recommend 1.57.