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I wonder if anyone can help.
My HTC Advantage is running PK3 ROM With radio 1.5
Although it sees all the satelites, (at the moment 12 satelites showing all grey) it takes upwards of 5 minutes to get a lock.....
I wonder if anyone has any ideas as to what is causing this? BTW this is a legal copy of TTNAV
barneyrubble said:
I wonder if anyone can help.
My HTC Advantage is running PK3 ROM With radio 1.5
Although it sees all the satelites, (at the moment 12 satelites showing all grey) it takes upwards of 5 minutes to get a lock.....
I wonder if anyone has any ideas as to what is causing this? BTW this is a legal copy of TTNAV
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A few wuestions: Is your QuickGPS data up to date? Also, with the 'new' journies where lock is taking a long time, are you starting from the same place as where you last left or somewhere new? what other apps are running? What is the baud rate set to? How is the unit mounted and where in the car? Is it a renault (or another car with a reflective screen)?
Thanks for the reply.
Yes, quickGPS is up to date. I am indeed starting from the same place where I finished last. For example, drove home last night - with a fix, got up this morning to go out and about 5 mins to fix the position, even though it couls see 12 satelitles for about 3 minutes beforehand.
Other apps - Call firewall, however it's not being used as my primary phone.
Yes it's a Renault Megane. However, I have also tested this sitting on the windowsill (the Advantage - not me and the same results are gained. I have a Brodit mount which sits on the right hand side of the driver against the side window. My TT GPS unit picks up a fix in about 20-30 seconds.
I am coming to the conclusion that I may need to use the TT GPS unit rather than the built in one.
The Baud Rate is set to 9600 I htink.
Personally I blame TomTom.
It is seeing the signals, and is showing multiple strong sattelite signals (i am assuming the bars are blue to show a good signal, not grey to show too weak?). I have seen on with every single bar blue and good signal and still would not get a fix.
Of course, i could be totally misunderstanding the way GPS works, but as I understand it, the chip simply forwards the signals from the satellites and works out a rough location, and then tomtom translates that to a definite fix?
I've seen it on an advantage, a Kaiser and a 3300 updated to Windows Mobile 6 so far. Only with the latest version of TomTom though.
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Thanks for the reply.
Yes, quickGPS is up to date. I am indeed starting from the same place where I finished last. For example, drove home last night - with a fix, got up this morning to go out and about 5 mins to fix the position, even though it couls see 12 satelitles for about 3 minutes beforehand.
Other apps - Call firewall, however it's not being used as my primary phone.
Yes it's a Renault Megane. However, I have also tested this sitting on the windowsill (the Advantage - not me and the same results are gained. I have a Brodit mount which sits on the right hand side of the driver against the side window. My TT GPS unit picks up a fix in about 20-30 seconds.
I am coming to the conclusion that I may need to use the TT GPS unit rather than the built in one.
The Baud Rate is set to 9600 I htink.
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That is really strange. I doubt it is an issue with the TT software - the fact that it is taking a liong time to get a fix from the same position after only a night sounds more like a problem with the GPS than with the software. However, it is getting a fix.
Have you tried testing the GPS with another piece of software (eg Tracky) to see if that gets a quick fix. Tracky will also show you how many satellites have been acquired and when it has a fix.
I was under the impresion it wouldnt, couldnt show the satalites until it had a lock, maybe thats to do with quick gps knowing where you are, "where the satalites should be." but 5 minutes from a cold boot sounds about normal to me, even my old bluetooth reciever took about that long.
you have to take weather conditions ie, is it overcast, cloudy, ect. I found standing by a window didnt get me a lock, if i was testing it leaving it standing by an open window often used to take 15 - 20 minutes.
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I was under the impresion it wouldnt, couldnt show the satalites until it had a lock, maybe thats to do with quick gps knowing where you are, "where the satalites should be." but 5 minutes from a cold boot sounds about normal to me, even my old bluetooth reciever took about that long.
you have to take weather conditions ie, is it overcast, cloudy, ect. I found standing by a window didnt get me a lock, if i was testing it leaving it standing by an open window often used to take 15 - 20 minutes.
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No - it does show them. When it shows them, it knows their position. 'Lock' is when it knows your position as a result.
5 minutes is a long time in my experience, even for TT, particularly when starting from where you left off. The 15-20 minutes could have been because the signals were being bounced.
barneyrubble said:
I wonder if anyone can help.
My HTC Advantage is running PK3 ROM With radio 1.5
Although it sees all the satelites, (at the moment 12 satelites showing all grey) it takes upwards of 5 minutes to get a lock.....
I wonder if anyone has any ideas as to what is causing this? BTW this is a legal copy of TTNAV
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Hi
Could you tell me which version of the TT and the maps you are using. I use TT6.030 and 6.75 maps it works perfectly within ten seconds. you can download the TT6.030 update if you are running TT 6.0... and it is free.
Good luck
Hi there,...
i also can not confirm these long fix times.
I am Using Ameo (with orig. WM6 HTC Rom) and TT 6.030. (ROM 2.21 / Radio 1.50)
I got a fix within <1 min....
When I got in the car, start TT and set target location then it takes only another 10-15 Sec to get the fix. From my point of view I can say nothing
against TT and also not againt the internal GPS. (Quick GPS more or less always valid, due to update with every sync)
Heard of these problem and happy that I can't confirm
Hmmmmm..... Well, TT6.030 won't install on my Advantage. Don't know why, just immediately pops up with "the installation was unsuccessfull". TTHome says 6.030 is not compatible with my device. So I guess that's why.
Trying to get the BB Client working, I made the ROM look like an HTC Hermes, which could be why it's saying it's incoimpatible. I have given up with the Blackberry client at the moment, so will flash it back to be an Athena soon and see if that solves the problem.
Thanks for all the help guys.
Flash Radio rom again
Hi,
I have had the same problems. Mine was solved after I flashed the radio rom again. I think something went wrong while you were flashing the previous rom. Give me a pm and I will send you the latest 6.032 tomtom for your Athena.
QAN
First good news:
Today, i have been "trial testing" the touch HD with Tomtom 7.415 in parallel with a tomtom ONE box in a car around Paris.
The voices have been in perfect sync (slight echo but NEVER above 0.2 s!) for 20 minutes!
Now, we could speculate and follow rumours, but this is a hard fact - relieving our beloved blackstone and TOMTOM by the GPS LAG accusation...unless anybody would claim that the tomtom ONE box also has the GPS LAG virus...
Second good news:
apparently, TOMTOM has just released new maps and tomtom7 explicitely for the touch pro and diamond, there is a large probability it will also work on the touch HD (see some "opinions" in this forum).
Notice that tomtom7 appears on the tomtom website if you identify yourself from Switzerland, Germany, Nederlands but is apparently not available for France and Italy. Maybe this is just a temporary situation due to translations and/or distribution terms.
So it's time for decisions, and i decided to buy tomtom7 - stopping "opinion forming" and "trial testing" evaluations. For once, my friends, there is a good company that listens to us and provide us with a great product....i have to admit that i feel embarassed!
.....Anybody could confirm that the official tomtom7 commercial release does work on the touch HD?
I nearly chocked on my grilled dumpling there....took tomtom 7 out for a spin and is fine on the HD
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First good news:
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I completely agree, before your post I also posted the same stuff; there is no GPS-lag, strange rumour...
Great to hear that new TomTom maps are on the way
Guus said:
I tested the GPS with TomTom 7.450, 4 times now, 4 different routes, all perfect, no lag at all, and a very fast fix. Even when I was looking for lag (because of this thread I was watching the screen/road carefully), I didn't see lag at all. The video performance, that's the real problem of this device.
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Guus_ said:
I completely agree, before your post I also posted the same stuff; there is no GPS-lag, strange rumour...
Great to hear that new TomTom maps are on the way
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The rumor started because people believed that because the HD uses the same chipset as the diamond and pro it would lag too...This is not the case. I used Live search gps maps all day today at work with no lag.
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The rumor started because people believed that because the HD uses the same chipset as the diamond and pro it would lag too...This is not the case. I used Live search gps maps all day today at work with no lag.
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But it is the same chipset...
I really don't get it, why the TP isn´t like the HD regarding the GPS.
speed200 said:
But it is the same chipset...
I really don't get it, why the TP isn´t like the HD regarding the GPS.
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I have no clue...the GPS reception strength is leaps and bounds above the Diamond and Touch Pros. Fix time is dramatically quicker. I can get a fix in buildings with my HD without being close to the window! I could never get a fix indoors with my Touch Pro..even flat up next to my window.
GPS signal strength is affected by the radio used by the device. Perhaps they use a different radio version? Same thing can be said about 3G signal. It is also affected by the radio. We know because we have tried many different ROM on other device and know for a fact that different radio gives slightly different results.
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But it is the same chipset...
I really don't get it, why the TP isn´t like the HD regarding the GPS.
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the fact we don't get it - doesn't mean it is not true! If you disagree with the result because you have a gps lag IN YOUR TOUCH HD - please report it in details with some experimental evidence.
...maybe the diamond gps antenna has a low S/N, and it has to be filtered by averaging multiple fixes?
Since GPS lag seems not to exist on our touch HD, can somewone then please tell me if the following behaviour is normal (for google maps)
When I drive at a speed of 50 km/h (approx 30mph), google maps shows the dot consistently 10 to 15 meters behind my current position. As soon as I stop (for a trafficlight), the dot catches up and displays my location rather precisely (there is always some error ofcourse).
So during driving, it is quite precise, except for the fact that it is allways 10-15 meters behind me...
Is that normal or is that the fabled lag?
(haven't tested tomtom yet, will use that for navigation anyway, so I am not to bothered by the behaviour of google maps)
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Since GPS lag seems not to exist on our touch HD, can somewone then please tell me if the following behaviour is normal (for google maps)
When I drive at a speed of 50 km/h (approx 30mph), google maps shows the dot consistently 10 to 15 meters behind my current position. As soon as I stop (for a trafficlight), the dot catches up and displays my location rather precisely (there is always some error ofcourse).
So during driving, it is quite precise, except for the fact that it is allways 10-15 meters behind me...
Is that normal or is that the fabled lag?
(haven't tested tomtom yet, will use that for navigation anyway, so I am not to bothered by the behaviour of google maps)
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I think the software itself is the problem, not the device. I have used Google Map for driving only three times. The second time I used it, the dot did not move at all! It stays at the point of departure throughout the trip! This was on my Athena. When I used a proper GPS software including iGO and TomTom, I had no problem at all. Even when I'm travelling inside a undersea tunnel, the current position moves alone. Obviously this is done by the software extrapolating the most likely position based on the last known speed.
And we cannot forget that the windshield of the car maybe can be a factor for the lag
pzucchel said:
Second good news:
apparently, TOMTOM has just released new maps and tomtom7 explicitely for the touch pro and diamond, there is a large probability it will also work on the touch HD (see some "opinions" in this forum).
Notice that tomtom7 appears on the tomtom website if you identify yourself from Switzerland, Germany, Nederlands but is apparently not available for France and Italy. Maybe this is just a temporary situation due to translations and/or distribution terms.
So it's time for decisions, and i decided to buy tomtom7 - stopping "opinion forming" and "trial testing" evaluations. For once, my friends, there is a good company that listens to us and provide us with a great product....i have to admit that i feel embarassed!
.....Anybody could confirm that the official tomtom7 commercial release does work on the touch HD?
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Sorry, my English is not so good as yours. But does it mean now you can by the Software TTN7 and the maps too on the website from TomTom?
You can not purchase the tomtom application, but you can purchase the maps if you have the program installed and working correctly with tomtom home. Currently only tomtom home version 1.5 allows you to sync your device as the TTN7 application has NOT been officially released by tomtom for the HD to my knowledge.
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I have no clue...the GPS reception strength is leaps and bounds above the Diamond and Touch Pros. Fix time is dramatically quicker. I can get a fix in buildings with my HD without being close to the window! I could never get a fix indoors with my Touch Pro..even flat up next to my window.
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I am seeing the same thing on my HD, I could not get a fix in my house on my TYTNII or on my Omnia, but I can with my HD, and as I posted before I have yet to see the "lag" that has been talked about
My device works fine with Copilot 7, with no lag.
Lag however IS evident on Google Maps. I think is is simply Google Maps that causes the lap by slower page updating. Considering that this is an "online" programme, I think that it is reasonable to assume that such a programme will not be as instantaneous as a dedicated programme.
That's why you pay good money for a faster programme!
First of all...
I completely agree with the ZERO LAG thing and also while the parts of the HD are almost identical HTC has done a lot of optimization, mostly the way the software communicates with the hardware, which is where the GPS lag was resulting from in the first place.
Good to see how fast HTC picks up some things (while other things take years but that is beside the point) as the Diamond is only a couple of months old and they already fixed so many issues and improved so much..
Second thing though, I have not been able to get a lock indoors, but at home and at work I got a couple of stories above me so that probably causes too much signal interference.
3G reception is always perfect though no matter where I am...
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My device works fine with Copilot 7, with no lag.
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Same here with CoPilot Live 6 (with TTS!).
No lag, and good reception, even indoors away from a window!!!
Quick question:
For Tom Tom to work on the Touch HD you have to buy separate software? Or does buying a physical Tom Tom device mean you have the privilege of having it on an alternative device (the Touch HD)?
The HD is my first HTC phone so can't comment on previous lag issues, however side by side to my PDA running TomTom 7.4, my HD running 7.9 is about 100 to 150 meters behind. I know they are different versions, will go back to 7.4 to test further, but that is quite a lag.
On a seperate note, how do you get an external bluetooth GPS to work with the HD? The HD seems to have less bluetooth settings than my WM5 PDA.
The_Stranger said:
Since GPS lag seems not to exist on our touch HD, can somewone then please tell me if the following behaviour is normal (for google maps)
When I drive at a speed of 50 km/h (approx 30mph), google maps shows the dot consistently 10 to 15 meters behind my current position. As soon as I stop (for a trafficlight), the dot catches up and displays my location rather precisely (there is always some error ofcourse).
So during driving, it is quite precise, except for the fact that it is allways 10-15 meters behind me...
Is that normal or is that the fabled lag?
(haven't tested tomtom yet, will use that for navigation anyway, so I am not to bothered by the behaviour of google maps)
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Hi Stranger, at 50 km/hour you do about 15 m/s. every GPS of the class we use, e.g. not for professional use, has one position fix every second - which corresponds to about 15 meters. All navigation softwares do quite a lot of interpolation and data filtering, as we all know when we enter into a gallery and the position keeps moving or when we are slightly sideways on the road but the actual position is nicely on the road! So, it is not a surprise that your software could be within a second from the last measurement, since it has a full second before having the next one anyway and a full bunch of operations to make (screen redraw, route calculations, etc.etc.)
BTW, Igo does exactly the same.
Peoples,
I have a Diamond and I often use the GPS, BUT I am always suffering from extended periods to find satellites, sometimes lag, etc etc
I do know how to get "around" some of these issues (on Diamond) by using GPS Test, HTC GPS tools, lighting candles, sacrificing chickens....but its a right pain
The question is put to all Blackstone users....do you suffer from these issues?!?!?
Looking forward to your responses!!
I didn't noticed any problem with GPS
i also use an Athena and the Fixe with blackstone is quicker
The HD is quicker than the diamond with initial GPS fix.
are most folk using TT7?
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I didn't noticed any problem with GPS
i also use an Athena and the Fixe with blackstone is quicker
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And I could take just between 2 to 11 seconds for fix in Athena. So HD even beats that?
On the Touch HD, the fix is quite fast, usually 10-15 seconds. Then in operation, there's sometimes a small lag, but no more than 1-2 seconds when driving above 100 Km/h -- which is perfectly understandable, since the GPS signal itself is refreshed every second.
GPS location
i am finding the initial GPS location, very quick, keep the quick gps updated.
however when using software like either tomtom 7 or igo 8, position actual and position GPS seem very different. And if at the wrong time, could be very costly re:speed camera's.
other than that, IGO8 blows the socks off tomtom7, just the voice comms alone, then we goto 3d maps and buildings too....
mindblowing, igo8 for the HD! works great
OK Guys I was searching this forum and not only this but could not find any answer or tip to my problem, so as far as i do not like to start new thread here we go....
It is a bit weird as it started to happen recently...my Garmin XT working ideally with TOPO maps when u hiking but as soon as i get into a car and connect my HD to power and try to navigate home it starts to loosing the plot... basically it will find the route and start navigating and then suddenly loosing GPS fix and switch screen off sometimes, and even once or twice unload itself so phone went back to main screen. also once it lost fix i can see that Garmin switching between full screen and full window view...as i can see top bar every now and then.
contacting Garmin is a waste of time....as they did not offer any solution except hard resetting the device, and i wont do that, to much work to put back everything together and not enough time.
if anyone have a clue what it might be please share ur thought, and give me a tip to sort this out.
I'm using non modified HD with standard WWE version on Orange UK.
Thanks for any help
PS. For MOD, do not know if I posted in right place so if need to be moved, just move it.
Oh and I thought my Garmin was going crazy ! Actually Sygic is working fine with me except that I get some lags sometimes but it is all fine. But yeah tell me about it ... I tried Garmin and it looked for me better with much more POIS than Sygic but few days ago I was driving and suddenly the software started to go into other direction, like it was tracking something else. I think it is a bug with the software maybe. Thank God I am not the only one aware of many things going on with my HD
have u ppl tried 1.13.25.24 radio rom??
with this update... getting fix is very fast (basically it does not search for com ports, shows u connected when u start GMXT).
only drawback is that u can not see the satellite bars in info section.
used gps for short distances (@ 140kmph not much lagging and no disconnection). maybe i'll go for a long drive this weekend... then i'll know if there is a problem of disconnection or lagging etc.
With TomTom i get the same problem, however i don't know what the problem may be because A-GPS is turned off, but it has happened twice where it would take 4 times as longer to find the signal, and whenever it did it would go find then lost.
Soft Resetting fixed it up however i did notice my QuickGPS was not up to date anymore, must have went out of date the day before and possible cause for it acting up.
Try updating QuickGPS, might fix it up and be sure to have A-GPS off.
still no solution
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Try updating QuickGPS, might fix it up and be sure to have A-GPS off.
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i did forgot to mention that my A-GPS is already switched off. the problem is that Garmin keep switching between full screen and full window view and i suspect that my be the bottom of losing fix in the car... i want to stress out that while walking & hiking i have no such problem..... ONLY IN THE CAR and that is most frustrating.
and changing radio....well i'm not convinced as this could halt my phone if something go wrong and i cannot let it happen, as it's not only a toy but business tool, so i rather dont play with it.
any solution????
marasp said:
i did forgot to mention that my A-GPS is already switched off. the problem is that Garmin keep switching between full screen and full window view and i suspect that my be the bottom of losing fix in the car... i want to stress out that while walking & hiking i have no such problem..... ONLY IN THE CAR and that is most frustrating.
and changing radio....well i'm not convinced as this could halt my phone if something go wrong and i cannot let it happen, as it's not only a toy but business tool, so i rather dont play with it.
any solution????
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Changing radio won't halt your device. As long as you have Hardspl on your phone beforehand you'll be fine!
And pelase report back if it does solve your problem
Is this a solution????
Hi there, I see we lost some posts over here....so again latest update...
On the way to work this morning I tried garmin with Intermediate Driver and it worked!! but....there always has to be some but....I saw increase in lag...also i did it a bit different way then usually as I did not connected HD to power... will test it again with power connection tomorrow.
i have extensively tested gps of touch hd while driving from 0 to 120 km in open highway
i never lost the fix
it kept locked to satelites but major problem was battery drain
so i have to disconnect gps latter on
i belive with gps on and satelite fixed driving around 80 to 100 km battery with die with in 2 hours .
otherwise there is lag of 5 to 7 km/hr in speed calculated via gps and its normal
my SiRF III CHIP based cowon q5 gps also shows 5 to 10 km /hr differance from actual speed of car
its normal i belive
laggy but working
commando0 said:
otherwise there is lag of 5 to 7 km/hr in speed calculated via gps and its normal
my SiRF III CHIP based cowon q5 gps also shows 5 to 10 km /hr differance from actual speed of car its normal i belive
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from what i experienced earlier with garmin i can say that lag become much bigger...now when i'm past the junction, on the map i suppose to be either on or even before the junction... never had that before so i suspect that intermediate driver might be responsible for that. also i can say that when using tomtom i have no such experience.
wanted to ditch tomtom but with such a laggy response i will have to use both... garmin for off road navigation and tomtom for car navigation.
the only thing i can confirm is that using intermediate driver solved switching between full screen and full window problem as well as loosing gps fix... at least for me. but u get bigger lag instead....
Hi All,
At the moment i own a TP (a.k.a HTC Raphael), but i'm thinking about buying a new phone and the HD2 is one of the candidates. Before buying i would like to know if the GPS performance of the HD2 is up to scratch?
For some unknown reason reviews never (...hardly) include GPS tests.....WHY!!!??
The GPS performance of the TP even with the official HTC patches is still worthless. Waiting for a fix could take an hour (i'm NOT exaggerating).
pi_mento said:
Hi All,
At the moment i own a TP (a.k.a HTC Raphael), but i'm thinking about buying a new phone and the HD2 is one of the candidates. Before buying i would like to know if the GPS performance of the HD2 is up to scratch?
For some unknown reason reviews never (...hardly) include GPS tests.....WHY!!!??
The GPS performance of the TP even with the official HTC patches is still worthless. Waiting for a fix could take an hour (i'm NOT exaggerating).
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i know what you are talking about, i had an TP before my HD2 too, and i have to say there is world of difference between them. with my tp i had to wait about 15 mins. with hd2 about 10 seconds.. even inside buildings i get a fix! with my tp i wouldnt even hoped for that.
so yeah its a LOT better
The HD2 is in a different GPS league from the TP, Diamond, etc. They were a disaster.
IOW it's much better IMO.
Works pretty good. I just enable QuickGPS when I flash a ROM and I never have any issues (never tried using GPS without that!)
I've an everage GPS fix in ~15sec.... It's brilliant! even from cold start!
Sometimes you get GPS even in very light buildings
GPS is awesome, simply awesome... outside get a fix in a few seconds with full sat coverage (all the columns show a satellite) inside it takes a few seconds longer and again full columns... there is barely any lag on the journy (icon vs real travel)...
GPS fix in 30 secs in Street Navi, 15 secs in Aviation software ...... great!
Also, 10-15 seconds, outside even less...
What I find amazing: Even in my living room, sitting about 1,5m away from the window, I get fix to 7-10 satellites within 20 seconds...
(Always with fresh QuickGPS data)
when i had a diamond i had no issues at all, the hd2 is a lot faster
I have never used GPS on a PDA before but have a dedicated (new) TomTom GPS unit and when I decided to try my HD2 I mounted them both in the car and ran tests.
Within 5 minutes my mind was made up. The TomTom was outperformed in all areas. The route recalculation is much much MUCH faster than the TomTom and the same applies for the aquisition of the GPS signal. Combine this with an awesome screen and it is perfect. I play music throught the headphone socket to my car stereo and run GPS at the same time. When a call comes in the music mutes and resumes when I hang up. The GPS unit runs in the background without any issue. The TomTom GPS unit is now in the cupboard collecting dust.
I have never used quick GPS as I have never had a need.
I agree, HD2 GPS works like a charm.
QuickGPS - what for!?
After reading the feedback in this thread, I suddenly remembered the QuickGPS. Last time I used it was two months ago, because... it was there to be used! Without QuickGPS I get a fix in my HD2 in around 5 seconds! I am not joking! Never felt the need to go for QuickGPS. BTW, went just now to Options and ticked "Download QuickGPS automatically". Why not!? I have Copilot 8 and love it. Just missing the QWERTY keyboard. Otherwise, there's no better combination in the world when it comes to portable phone-music-GPS-video-Internet-camera-etc, etc.
Wow! Thnx u guys for the feedback!
I can live with getting a fix within 30 sec's on a cold start (coming from an avrg. 15 mins for a fix). The HD2 seems to be the PDA/Phone that i have been waiting for since the dawn of Pocket PC 2002 .
HD2 here i come!
I've found the HD2 to actually get a GPS signal even inside my dad's car. no other gps device can get a signal through the windscreen. It's weak on the HD2, but there!!!
A bluetooth GPS stick cannot even penetrate it.
HD2 GPS is a joke!
I do not mind much if the GPS locks indoor, though HD2 does it very easily indeed (and fast). I find really bad is the very poor precision of HD2 GPS - it constantly gives a 20-40 meters error in all directions (no matter in the city or in open field, no matter how many sats are found, even 10). My old Samsung i780 has an error within 2 meters. Just record your path (on feet) with e.g. RunGPS or NaviComputer and you will see the the ugly zigzag line instead of a smooth one which I used to have with i780. Of course if you are not lucky to have HD2 with much better GPS than my..
(It is almost OK with TomTom car navigation, though, with occasional map rotating and recalculating the route).
GPS is very fast and precise here, definitely the best GPS signal out of all the WM phones I've owned
My GPS with iGO conects in about 10sec and its very precision. Corect in area of 3-4 meters
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GPS is very fast and precise here, definitely the best GPS signal out of all the WM phones I've owned
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This is interesting, maybe your old Tmous radio (..50..) is doing a miracle. i have 2.09.51.03 radio, the previos 2.07.51 had the same bad GPS precision.
However, how do you know that it is precise? If I simply looking at a Google map standing still, I see pretty precise spot which my GPS gives, but once I begin to move, the position begis to jump 20-40 meters to all directions..
HD2's GPS really rocks! My old N95 took about 15 mins to fix.
yep fast here as well about 10 sec for a fix cold.