Hiya
I've looked in the previous topics but can't find anything about this...
What happens is this... I sync my xda2 onto my pc and it downloads various bits n bobs from the net through the pc connection (weatherpanel etc). If I disconnect my phone from the cradle and then the weatherpanel program tries to connect, it tries to connect through WAP Network GPRS (as set up in the auto config when the xda2 is first installed)...this never seems to work.
If I change the net connection from My Work to My ISP it's great - it will connect MOBILE WEB GPRS when it's not cradled and download the data. Unfortunately if I then reconnect to the cradle it recognises the activesync connection but then tries to redial my gprs connection instead of going through the pc connection.
What trick am I missing? Put simply I wish it to have one profile (that i don't have to keep changing) where when it's docked it goes through my pc net connection, and when carrying it around it knows to connect to the mobile web gprs.
Can anyone help?
Many thanks
Anthony
Try to use Auto Pick option in the connection settings (must have both connections in the same group)
just an idea
Give this a try:
Start > Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > Select Networks >
then set both drop down menus to My ISP.
Hope this works.
Smiley
I'm confused about network settings in my Exec (but I guess this question applies to all WM devices).
What's the functional difference between My Work Network and My ISP? When I'm browsing WiFi networks and a new one is discovered, the notification says:
"Wireless Node 2" network connects me to:
O The Internet (or work via a VPN)
O Work
What's the correct answer? Why do I have a choice? In some cases I'll want the WiFi network to allow me to only access the Internet and in other cases (like the WiFi networks in my house) I want to be able to access the Internet AND browse files on other PCs + use Terminal Services. Should these situations require different settings or are they essentially the same?
Second question: If I'm using a program that needs an internet connection, what settings must I choose to ensure that the system uses WiFi if it can, and then GPRS only if WiFi isn't available? I've changed the option in Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > Select Networks so that both drop-down boxes show 'My Work Network' (since I don't want to choose a default of My ISP - i.e. GPRS - for network activity if a WiFi connection is available) but now I can't seem to find any GPRS connection options. How do you all connect to GPRS manually? If I tap the signal status icon at the top of the screen I have no 'Connect GPRS' option like I did on my XDA2.
I'm confused by it all. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide, especially links to pages with how-to guides for idiots
PS. Tried searching these forums, but the subject is too generic and there are hundreds of results.
Hi
In my opinion WM2003SE's handling of connections is horrible. I understand you, being confused.
I'll decribe WM2003SE way...
Your exec has WM2005, but as far as I know, the rules are similar.
The general difference between "Internet" and "Work" is that connection set as "internet" allows you to surf web and give your program access to internet. While connections set as "work" should be used only when you connect to your home/office network (and optionally internet).
About disappearing "Connect GPRS". It's pain in the ass really
You can create as many "connection profiles" as you want (like "My ISP" "My Work Network" "My other freakin' ISP" "Etc")
Then you add some connections to certain profile....
eg.: create gprs connection (named "O2 GPRS inet" for internet in "my ISP" profile.
That means that when you change default Internet profile to "My other freakin' ISP", you won't be able to use "O2 GPRS inet"...
Ok.. answering your first, main question.
If you want to use inet, browse shared folders and use Terminal Services you should edit "My work network" properties and check "This network connects me to the Internet".
When at home. Select (in settings->connections->connections) "My work network" for both auto internet and auto private network.
When roaming around, you should change auto inet to "My ISP" which will have a configured GPRS connection inside.
Your phone will use Wifi first (before GPRS) when activated and available.
OMG.. my fingers hurt.
Have fun fighting with WM
Thanks for your reply, robal. It's a big help but I'm still not 100% sure of the situation.
robal said:
The general difference between "Internet" and "Work" is that connection set as "internet" allows you to surf web and give your program access to internet. While connections set as "work" should be used only when you connect to your home/office network (and optionally internet).
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But I want both types to connect to the Internet. I still don't really see the difference. Does My Work Network apply to connections for which a VPN is necessary? If I choose 'The Internet' as the option when connecting to a new WiFi network, will that change any aspect of the way in which the connection works? Perhaps I should just try it and see. Trouble is, if I screw it up I'll never be able to get it working again!
robal said:
If you want to use inet, browse shared folders and use Terminal Services you should edit "My work network" properties and check "This network connects me to the Internet".
When at home. Select (in settings->connections->connections) "My work network" for both auto internet and auto private network.
When roaming around, you should change auto inet to "My ISP" which will have a configured GPRS connection inside.
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Perhaps I'm expecting the impossible. I want to set it up and forget about it, so that wherever I am my device can access the Internet. If I'm connected to a WiFi network then that's the connection but if not then it dials up GPRS automatically when a program demands a connection.
Does everybody else use robal's method and change the settings depending on the availability of a friendly WiFi access point?
If this is the case then Windows Mobile has a long way to go before the connectivity is seamless...
I was largely having probs connecting to 02's 3G network as I couldn't find the settings.. now I kind of understand. Kind of.
--O2 Contract 3G settings--
Name of connection: O2 Internet
Select a modem: Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access Point Name: mobile.02.co.uk
Username: mobileweb
password: *** (it was prefilled for me..)
Advanced Button should be set to auto-assign IPs
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With regards the original post, I have mine setup so that if I connect to my local WiFi, then I get the internet through that. If I disconnect, or not in range, etc, then it will use the 3G settings.
I'm still a little in the dark with regards WM5.0s handling of network connections, but here's what I think is right:
Start > Settings > Connections Tab > Connections
[Tasks Tab]
You can only have *2* active connections
You can have multiple profiles under each connection.
So, I renamed my O2 Internet connection to something other than "My ISP", I chose "O2 3G Network" to make things a tiny bit less confusing. (This is the network with your 3G settings in as above.)
The second option I renamed to "My Wireless Network", and as far as I can tell, you do not need to change anything in there - unless you want to add VPN information.
[Advanced Tab]
Click "Select Networks"
Here you can choose between your 2 active connections. For the top option I chose "O2 3G Network", the second option "My Wireless Network".
Click OK
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Now you have two networks setup. Open Internet Explorer..
If you do not have WiFi switched on, it should automagically dial your "O2 3G Network" when you start browsing.
If you're at home, or near a WiFi network, switch it on by holding your stylus on the "U" in the taskbar. This should give you the option to switch on WiFi.
A few handshakes later (this took about 2-3 mins to actually connect to my WiFi) and your "U" should change to the WiFi antenna icon.
*Check you have fully connected to WiFi before browsing!*
Do this by again, holding the stylus on the antenna icon and checking that your WiFi name is displayed, along with the signal strength.
*If you try to browse the web before your WiFi is ready, it will just attempt to dial O2 3G Network!* - Patience is required...
So, whether this answers the original post or not, I mean, it isn't exactly Automatic, but I guess if you leave WiFi switched on, then in theory it will use it, else it will dial your 3G network.
Well, thats my brain dump for my own benefit, hope it helps out others.
That will be very helpful, thanks gaspx. I'll try your suggestions later on and let you know how I get on.
So with those settings when your Exec finds a new wireless network and invites you to set up your connection, which do you choose? "The Internet" or "Work"? I think :?: that those two options are independent of your renaming of "My ISP" to "O2 3G Network"...
I guess I can get it set up right like you have, but I hate not understanding this. It should be so simple but it's not!
"The Internet" or "Work"? I think that those two options are independent of your renaming of "My ISP" to "O2 3G Network"...
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Yes, they are independant and are accessible when you choose Start > Settings > Connections Tab > Network Cards
Then select Network Adaptors tab.
What I'm not fully understanding is how these two options differ(!):
For instance, I have a static IP address on my WiFi, so I choose Network Adaptor Profile "Work", then configure "tiacxwin Compatible Wireless Ethernet" and enter in my static IP and DNS etc..
What I would *expect* to be able to do is choose between "Work" profile and have my static IP, or "The Internet" profile, and have dynamic IP.
But it doesn't appear to work that way.. if I add static IP address, it uses it for both Work and The Internet. Confused ? Me too.
which do you choose? "The Internet" or "Work"?
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So from my initial playing around, it doesn't appear to make any difference! - Otherwise i'd expect to add a roaming WiFi Hotspot to "The Internet" (and dynamic IP) and any Work related (static IP) to "Work".
Must be missing something fundamental here, but O2 Exec manual (pg.92) isn't especially forthcoming with an answer.. :?
This might help you a bit.
I connect to work with a vpn connection over the internet. the address for the vpn is a url.
1. I set up a gprs connection under internet
2. I set up a vpn connection under work to vpndomain.com.au
3. in the advanced tab of connections I add *.vpndomain.com.au to the exceptions list for work connections
4. I start a terminal session to terminal.vpndomain.com.au
the device connects to internet then connects to work over internet.
if you don't need one connection to occur via another then make them all internet
hope that helps
Okay, a bit more braindumping to understand the differences between "Work" and "The Internet" courtesy of ActiveSync Help..
ActiveSync > File > Connection Settings
This computer is connected to: Auto/Work/The Internet
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Use ActiveSync to "pass through" this computer. That means the connected device can use the computer's network connection as if it were its own. You can use this feature to perform tasks such as downloading non-Outlook e-mail messages, to connect directly with Exchange Server, or to browse the Internet.
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So, from that, I set the connection type to "The Internet" in ActiveSync, and I was able to browse the internet on my XDA.
I then set the connection type to "Work Network" in ActiveSync and was *not* able to use the internet.
What does it all mean ?
Well, at the moment all I can think of is that if don't set it to "The Internet", you er, don't get Internet access. :roll:
Applying that to the original question of which do I choose:
"Wireless Node 2" network connects me to:
O The Internet (or work via a VPN)
O Work
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I would holeheartedly recommend (if its a wireless network you've found whilst walking the streets) that you choose "The Internet" !!
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Functional Differences
I'm thinking/believing/speculating that the functional difference between the two is that the "Work" option is for connecting to local or internal IP's only, for instance anything on your 10.x.x IP range if that is the subnet you're on.
The "Internet" option allows any *external* IP address to be accessed, and no access to the local IP range. This would then require the VPN option to be used to access local/intranet resources. (This is the passthrough option as mentioned above in the ActiveSync help)
I'm literally typing as i'm testing, and so far it kinda makes more sense to me now.. kinda.
One thing i'm totally confused and lost about, with my new Vario II, is its apparent inability to use the wifi preferentially to access the internet.
T-mobile havent been able to help so far but I will keep leaning on them. The basic question I have is that:
When connected to wifi, I know I can get access to the internet because my laptop is doing it right now. If the wifi is connected (and it works because im transferring files across file sharing), why does the GPRS dial when I fire up an internet app like ie/msn messenger?
What do I need to do to this phone to make it prefer wifi over 3g/gprs?
Also, is it just my device, or is wifi on all these dog slow? It took nearly 1.5 minutes to copy a 4 meg mp3! ~384kbps?!
Start > Settings > Network Cards > Network Adapters (Tab) > "My network card connects to:" The Inernet
That should solve your problem. To a point, anyway. For som reason, Push mail is still GPRS only.
My TyTN uses WiFi when available otherwise it automatically choses HSDPA/EDGE/GPRS to get connected to Internet. To achieve it I set my system in the following way:
Start > Settings > Network Cards > Network Adapters (Tab) > "My network card connects to:" The Inernet (as rassah stated above)
Configure your GPRS connection as My Work Network.
Under Start > Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > Select_Networks (Network Management tab) set both drop-down
1. "Program that automatically connect to the Internet shoud connect using" -> My Work Network
2. "Program that automatically connect to the Private Network shoud connect using " to My Work Network -> My Work Network
Ahhhh.. I've eventually solved this, I think. Even with what was suggested here, I had difficulty and the phone would not dial gprs -> it just said "cannot connect with your current settings"
It was the last line of what JohnieWalker said that got me thinking - there is a slight typo on the line but other than that, his advice led me to the solution.
For other people experiencing this difficulty, I offer the following advice:
Click Start, Settings, Connections tab. All the applets you need to use are on this screen
Use the Network Cards applet, Network Adapters tab, highlight the wireless card and tell the phone it connects to Work
-- This apparently does something different to choosing "The Internet" in that it allows file sharing etc. The word Work in this context is completely unrelated to the default connection called "My Work Connection"
Use the Wireless LAN applet to connect to your wifi network
In the Connections applet, Advanced tab, press Select Networks
Set both dropdowns to "My Work Connection"
On the tasks Tab, the display has changed to "My Work Connection" -> Choose Manage Existing Connections and add a New one via the button
Enter the details to dial your gprs. These are all over the web
You end up with a connection that is set up identically to the default T-Mobile Internet one (in my case) - for some reason the default one always dials the GPRS whether the wifi is on or not. This one I just added behaves as i expect - if the wifi is on, it uses it, if not, it dials.. Weird!
I have a o2 XDA orbit with the standard WM5 Factory ROM.
I have setup the wireless settings to get it to work with my router. It connects and I get an ip address etc.
However On clicking the Wifi symbol it says there are no data sessions active.
I have my wireless contact active and...
My only problem is internet explorer, active sysc or any other Internet program decides to open a GRPS connection.
HELP Please!!!!
Forgot to mention, a lot of websites say:
In Internet explorer, Menu-Options-Connections
Untick 'automatically detect settings'
Make 'Select network: The Internet' or 'Select Network: WAP network'.
I do not have this menu path.
wilan
if your at home you should have your "my connection connects me to work"
press start settings connections " tasks advanced" go into advanced these 2 windows should both be on my work network
on the top one press edit under proxy settings top box should be ticked press ok on the bottom my work network setup a vpn to either your router or pc either works
i have two broadbands one home one in work i manage both routers so i give my xda stellar the same ip in both places it connects without a glich
your only problem then is when your out and about and you need internet connection you need change the top box back to my isp
I don't know if this is a bug or if it is supposed to be this way, but if I tell the wifi connection to connect to internet I can't access my network shares I have on my computers on the network, but if I choose connect to work then it will work, but the problem is that if I choose work some applications that uses the internet will not work, Marketplace for example. How do I configure Wifi so it can access my home network and at the same time all internet applications will work?
I don't know for sure if this will help but you could try the following:
Start -> Settings -> Menu: All Settings -> Connections -> Connections - Advanced -> Select Networks.
Set your data connection from your provider in both options ("Programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using" and "... to a private network should connect using"). Tap OK.
The network you selected should have "This network connects to the internet" checked in it's proxy settings. That way you're telling the phone that you don't have a dedicated work connection . Make sure your WFi connects to the internet as well.
This is how my phone is setup, and everything seems to be working (shares and internet access on LAN via WiFi) just fine. I specified also that "my computer connects to - the internet" in Mobile Device Center -> connection settings...
Maybe this will work? I'm really not sure, just a guess. There is some logic in it, but the Data connection settings shouldn't affect WiFi...
Grtz
Lukas