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Picked up an IO phone, and since we cannot activate the Evo on our Sprint lines yet, I am starting to use my google number for my main number. Figure good time to switch.
Dialing in and out is fine so far. I like that I can control who rings through to what phone etc.
I am not sure I am a fan of how it handles text. Seems like all SMS go into gvoice, AND into handcent, but handcent comes from some 406 number.
Anyone find a way to work around this? Of a way to make texting work more like it does if they text your phone?
Disable Google Voice (on the website) from texting the #, and just use the Google Voice app for SMS w/ the GVoice #.
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Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you're at work.
Yeah, go to the website and disable SMS to your cell phone and just use the google voice application for texts.
sergey.povzner said:
[off topic, but still maybe useful]
Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you at work.
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Cool!
I do something similar at work.
I have my GV calls forwarded to my office desk number and my cell phone at the same time. This way I have the option to answer using my desk number or my cell phone.
Bah, this does not seem like a good solution.
Handcent, Chomp, etc, have a great popup that I really like. Going through google voice app all the time isn't as handy.
I was also a little surprised that I am not able to send or receive mms at all through google voice. So any pictures / links have to be sent directly to my phone.
sergey.povzner said:
[off topic, but still maybe useful]
Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you're at work.
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I've been doing this for years. Never occurred to me to tell anyone else about it. Thanks.
sergey.povzner said:
[off topic, but still maybe useful]
Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you're at work.
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Also very handy if you have roomates.
I use both Handcent and the Google Voice app. I add the 406 number to the contact then I know who I am messaging, and if I delete the message I can still message them from Handcent. I emailed the email for the Google Voice app to see if they would be able to add a quick reply somehow within the app. We shall see how that goes.....
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I use both Handcent and the Google Voice app. I add the 406 number to the contact then I know who I am messaging, and if I delete the message I can still message them from Handcent. I emailed the email for the Google Voice app to see if they would be able to add a quick reply somehow within the app. We shall see how that goes.....
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This won't always work as the number changes depending on when the message is sent.
As for setting it up to not send SMS to my phone, I tried that and it didn't work. You have one of two options if you're in my situation. Tell the GV app to not notify you of anything, essentially making it useless. Or have Handcent block the number that GV sends you texts from. You have to block a new one whenever it shows a new number but it works decently that way. I'm just stuck with getting two messages until friday lol
I am with you. The whole txt message thing is why I'll probably never use google voice for much else besides maybe a call forward.
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This won't always work as the number changes depending on when the message is sent.
As for setting it up to not send SMS to my phone, I tried that and it didn't work. You have one of two options if you're in my situation. Tell the GV app to not notify you of anything, essentially making it useless. Or have Handcent block the number that GV sends you texts from. You have to block a new one whenever it shows a new number but it works decently that way. I'm just stuck with getting two messages until friday lol
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You either have to choose - use the GV app or use Handcent or whatever other SMS proggie you like. If you use the GV app, turn off SMS forwarding and all texts are handled within the GV app itself, no charges for texts with your carrier, and there is no need to deal with 406 numbers because the app is all integrated with your contacts.
If you need to use an SMS proggie, then of course you'll have to forward text to your GV account as SMS' and the benefit of GV is lowered.
I have my gv # on my friends and family list. I guess this means I'm using minutes when I use gv to dial out.
Does anyone know how this works?
You will want to download the "Google Voice" app from the Droid Marketplace. Also if you search these forums there are how-to's on how to set it up to replace your Verizon voicemail as well as using it to call out/have calls come in. If you need more help after that let me know (also I would happy to take a GV invite off your hands if you have one to spare =p, *note* I will continue to help you regardless ).
I've already downloaded that app and I love how it works except for not using my local gv number when I dial out. It seems to use a random, simi-local number each time.
You've got an invite either way. PM me your email address and I'll figure out how to send the invitation.
Thanks for your help.
DeeBG said:
You will want to download the "Google Voice" app from the Droid Marketplace. Also if you search these forums there are how-to's on how to set it up to replace your Verizon voicemail as well as using it to call out/have calls come in. If you need more help after that let me know (also I would happy to take a GV invite off your hands if you have one to spare =p, *note* I will continue to help you regardless ).
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Just wondering, I'm not sure if this is related to your issue, but did you have caller ID blocked in any way before/during setting up GV?
Edit: Also for making outgoing calls, are you calling your GV number and then dialing out from there? Using that method or calling directly from your computer SHOULD make your GV number appear when you call someone (the GV app is suppose to do this for you, btw if you need help testing this I can PM you my phone number... free weekend mins and all =p).
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Another thing you can try is going to https://www.google.com/voice/#callsettings and setting the "Caller ID (out)" to your GV number. This might force GV to display the correct number. What it sounds like they are doing now is drawing from a pool of random numbers in the area (for whatever reason, I don't know why) that they control and routing your call through them.
From what I have read, there is no way to dial straight out through gv. You have to dial your own gv number and use the #2 option.
I think I had a Window's Mobile app on my Touch Pro that did that for me.
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Another thing you can try is going to https://www.google.com/voice/#callsettings and setting the "Caller ID (out)" to your GV number.
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No, right under that option it says this:
"Note: this setting currently only applies to text messages; calls will be included soon."
gentleart said:
From what I have read, there is no way to dial straight out through gv. You have to dial your own gv number and use the #2 option.
I think I had a Window's Mobile app on my Touch Pro that did that for me.
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That's not how it works with the native Android app. It's much quicker/easier and it dials some other "special" number, not your own GV number.
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That's not how it works with the native Android app. It's much quicker/easier and it dials some other "special" number, not your own GV number.
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That defeats what I want it for - free calls.
My GVoice app seems to dial the same number every time. When you start a call using your GVoice number, just look at the pop up that says "Calling via Google Voice ###-###-####' and add that to your Verizon Friends & Family numbers. Your bill will show that you call that number over and over, so all outgoing calls are free. Incoming calls will not be free unfortunatelly :-/
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That defeats what I want it for - free calls.
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Hey gentleart sorry for the late reply, I've been afk for a couple days thanks to my gf working the front desk at a Pediatrician's office x.x (curse those snot-bubbling runts, we went through 30 packs of ramen noodles and tea in the last few days =p).
I didn't notice that "Caller ID (out)" only applied to text, I wrote that before I had access to GV and that was a recommendation I read on their board. Even if that were true for making phone calls though, it might not solve your problem. I'll make a thread on the Google Voice help site about this specific problem though (I'll PM you the link once the post is up) and if an answer arises out of it, I'll post it back in this forum for public knowledge (BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! ugh sorry... x.x).
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Incoming calls will not be free unfortunatelly :-/
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J/W, under Google Voice's "Calls" settings, have you tried changing "Caller ID (in)" to "Display my Google Voice number"? For some reason I have a feeling that you would still get billed for the incoming call (I can't wait until cell phones work like landlines) plus you wouldn't know who was calling (possibly forcing you to talk with relatives or even worse... ex-significant others x.x).
If you are a heavy enough phone user to need this you would probably want to switch to the unlimited plan, but I'm just curious how it would work with Verizon. For now though, I'm going to try and figure out why some people are getting multiple outgoing GV numbers when using the Android app (I think if you are in a heavily populated area - by GV users at least - that it might just cycle you out to another number... but there should be a way to force it to use your number without having to dial manually).
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My GVoice app seems to dial the same number every time. When you start a call using your GVoice number, just look at the pop up that says "Calling via Google Voice ###-###-####' and add that to your Verizon Friends & Family numbers. Your bill will show that you call that number over and over, so all outgoing calls are free. Incoming calls will not be free unfortunatelly :-/
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This is what I did, and I can confirm that all outgoing calls are free. I also added my GV number to my "10" so that when family calls it's included. Unfortunately you can't have your cake and eat it too, your incoming calls will be charged minutes just like they've always been. I just have it go to my work phone while I'm at work, and answer it for free using my land line.
Google Voice Callback
gentleart said:
I have my gv # on my friends and family list. I guess this means I'm using minutes when I use gv to dial out.
Does anyone know how this works?
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Install Google Voice Callback. This routes your calls via the web for dialing purposes and then google voice calls you back. Now outgoing calls are free if you have friends and family, and incoming calls are free if someone calls your google voice number.
You still have to have a pretty high priced contract with Verizon to get friends and family though.
For fear of sounding like an idiot I just have to ask.. I got a Google invite finally and now I'm not sure what I want to do. I really need to keep my current cell number because I have a billion business cards with this number, but I want the awesome voicemail service. I'm guessing I should choose the Voice Mail option only and I will not lose my current number? Does this sound about right?
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That defeats what I want it for - free calls.
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The number you see pop up when you dial should actually be the same each time. You should put that number in your friends and family and then using google voice out should not use minutes.
This may help, put this text in a Google search and take the top link
site:lifehacker.com google voice free
I've set up Google Voice so that it forwards texts to my Gmail account (which I receive via my phone's email client). While using the Google Voice app on my phone (build 0.4.0.12), I am receiving two replies for each text I send ... one into the Google Voice app's Text section and one into my Gmail account. I'm ok with this as long as they are both free. However, I suspect that's not the case. I don't really know if I'm being charged because I just started messing with this today (July 22), so my bill doesn't show anything yet.
Question is, what are the appropriate methods for sending (both initiating new texts and replying to them) and receiving texts so that they are free in both directions?
If you are using google voice sending and receiving text are free. You can go into the settings for google voice and disable emailing of text messages to your email. Try it from the computer, its a little more user friendly that way as long as you open gv to send and receive messages your fine. Also log into your at&t account just to make sure...
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Thanks. It works great actually. I confirmed via ATT records that the texts are free, and I'm also able to make free calls to Canada on my cell phone. Really nice program!
Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.
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Most people already know what google voice is about and how it works, but few may not know how to make free calls without using airtime or minutes.
Here's how to save $$$.
Make a call with Google voice and add the "outgoing number" (the number you see at the top of the call screen momentarily when connecting) to your Friends & Family List. Most cell providers have a name for a few reserved slots that you can add to your calling plan. AT&T calls it the A-List & TMO calls it Friends and Family.
Add that number to the list. You can add a forwarded line (like your office or home etc) to the A-List for incoming calls. Add your Google voice number also.
In the Google voice account go to Settings / Voice Settings / Calls Tab.
Google ID IN & Google ID Out should be checked to Display Google Voice Number.
You might give up the caller ID at a cost of making free calls that will show up as M2AN (A-List calls for AT&T) and another code for TMO on the bill.
In order for this to work, your calling plan has to support A-List or Friends and Family with an active data connection.
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I thought this was eliminated due to the recent update in GV?
As long as you know the incoming numbers and outgoing numbers for GV, nobody is going to stop you from adding them to the A-List.
But the point of the original was that you would add one number and be able to call that one number and reach anyone you wanted. But now its no difference then adding any number to an A-list, right?
The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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The original post is the same as the follow up. Add any numbers to the A-List especially google incoming and outgoing numbers then airtime won't be billed.
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Yeah I know what you meant, but I though google broke this in the newest update.
They did.
This method is over a year old. Next time search the forum before posting your out-dated "discovery".
Technically they broke it only for Google Voice. What makes Android so special is that someone else created a program, one of which is called "Google Voice Callback" that lets those of us who have a Fav 5 list still call everyone for free using Google Voice, even with the update.
TL;DR The trick still works, just use a program like Google Voice Callback (FREE in the Market)
Vonage for Facebook is free voip.
www.androidappjudge.com has a link to their site (shameless site plug)
Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)
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Good F-grief. There's always some moron who has nothing better to do than flame posts. Not everybody in these forums has had this phone over a year. Of course this is old news jackazz, just wanted to help some of the newer guys since voip has been a current topic. I'm tired of A-holes flaming posts when somebody wants to help.
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't flaming. Just informing. Your post, on the other hand, was burning hot. Calm down, it's the internet.
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Paul22000 said:
10000000x better idea:
Add your Google Voice number to your A-List / Friend and Family.
Go to www.google.com/voice on your phone.
Click a contact and call from there.
Ta-da. 100% free calls, no need to worry about all these other random numbers.
(Or just down-grade to 0.3.4 like I did since there's no benefit to the latest version anyway.)
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if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack
yozpalang said:
if you don't have myfave on your Tmobile plan like me use this here
obviously that is if you have magicjack
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But doesn't MagicJack cost money?
Paul22000 said:
But doesn't MagicJack cost money?
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Sorry my my bad but it is only $20 a year
Does this work in canada...
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Sip calling?
There is another way to do it without the myfaves if you use sipdroid or another program similar. You have to set yourself up with a sip number, which is free on a couple of sites (using sipgate currently).
Then set up your Google Voice callback, this lets you select whether you want to use the wifi(or 3g) calling. For incoming calls you can also force them to go to your free number.
I'm sure there are some good tutorials around if you need more info.
I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.
smachine said:
I used Google Voice, Gizmo5, Sipdroid, and Google Voice Callback app to get free calls. Did this on my N1 before I got tmobile service, and was doing it all over wifi. It also works over 3g or wifi. The wifi route could be a great way to give your old phones that are collecting dust a new life, by making them SIP phones.
Here is a basic rundown of steps:
1) First get a gizmo5 account, I had one from before, but they stopped new users. If you want one then check out ebay, they are only $5-10. Once you have gizmo you will have a SIP number in that account which will be used in the next step.
2) Download sipdroid from the android market. Go to settings and click on the SIP Account Settings.
In the box for Authorization username put in you gizmo5 number (put a 1 before the number). In the box below labelled Password just put in your gizmo password. In the box labeled "Server or Proxy"
put in proxy01.sipphone.com . In username or caller ID box i put in gizmo number again with 1 in front (dont know if this is necessary, but mine is working with it in). For the box that says Port it should be set to 5060. Thats all you need to do for the SIP Account Settings.
Press back on the sipdroid app to get to the main settings page and select the Advanced Options. Click on "Use STUN Server" and enable it. For STUN Server name put in stun01.sipphone.com . Then for "STUN Server port put in 3478 .
3) Now just go to your google voice site on your computer and go to the Voice Settings. Under phones you need to add your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number) as a forward number (on the right there is also a drop down box, you need to select Gizmo as the type of phone). It will confirm dial to test the phone, your cell phone should ring now if you followed my exact steps.
4) For free outgoing calls download Google Voice Call Free app from the market (This is different than googles own voice app!). Simple put in your google sign in and password in the boxes. Then for Callback number put in your gizmo number (no need to put 1 before the number), on the drop down box select "Gizmo" as type of phone. Your done and now you have free calls incoming and outgoing.
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This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)
Paul22000 said:
This post inspired me to purchase a Gizmo5 account on eBay this afternoon.
After a few minutes, I had it all set up and BOOM, calling worked immediately!
Wow, so simple, I wish I had done this before!!!
Thanks!!!
(Word of note: for some reason it wouldn't authenticate on my work's wifi, but worked fine at home. After Googling around, it looks like certain security settings aren't compatible with SipDroid -- I'm guessing most likely it's due to SipDroid needing a random open port -- so your mileage may vary. At home of course, you can do whatever you want so there should be no issue.)
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Glad this helped you out. I tried to explain each and every step so there was no room for error. I never ran into issues with wifi connections at home, starbucks, airports, hotels, but im guessing your work blocked alot of ports.
Pretty awesome new feature in my opinion added today!
http://www.google.com/chat/voice/
http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/make-and-receive-calls-in-gmail.html
Just used it to make a call. Pretty slick. Bring on the Android app!
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Pretty cool, so is this meant to be used on your PC? Or can you place calls for free using gmail on your phone?
I just saw this in my email and had to try it out!
It's pretty neat!
can't wait until we get in on our phones!!!
I've had the google voice phone number on my G1 for about a year and the match ing google voice app. And now have it on my Vibrant. It is really nice.
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Bronk93 said:
Pretty cool, so is this meant to be used on your PC? Or can you place calls for free using gmail on your phone?
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This is meant to be used on the PC. If you already have google voice, then you just install the new video chat add-on (linked to in first post) and you're all set.
Anyone you call will see your google voice number pop up. You can put in a phone number or the name of one of your google contacts.
This is a good way to communicate with people without having to leave your phone on speaker or break your stride if you're working on the computer.
pretty sweet...doubt Google's going to bring it to phones though and upset the apple cart with carriers
just wanted to know if incoming calls through your google number is free as well?
i know that outbound calls are free through data, but what about incoming calls in which your google voice number is forwarded to your mobile phone when someone calls your google voice number?
is that free or there is charge for that?
thanks a lot , i wish someone could give some clarification on this
Ms_Vibrant said:
just wanted to know if incoming calls through your google number is free as well?
i know that outbound calls are free through data, but what about incoming calls in which your google voice number is forwarded to your mobile phone when someone calls your google voice number?
is that free or there is charge for that?
thanks a lot , i wish someone could give some clarification on this
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Call your GV # from your house phone and find out. I remember trying it out like 2 days ago, I think it uses your carrier's plan minutes.
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Call your GV # from your house phone and find out. I remember trying it out like 2 days ago, I think it uses your carrier's plan minutes.
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thanks, will do that, then find out later on if my airtime minutes are being deducted. Is it the same with incoming text messages? maybe not , right? has to be free
yes it does uses the airtime minutes, otherwise, it wouldnt have reflected in my recent activity status on my tmobile account.