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Manila 3D about to work on BA?

Tried the latest cab from here:
Update 11: Direct from Chainfire:
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TF3D QVGA - Release #2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430718
Prior to installing the cab, I unzipped the OpenGL ES software drivers from here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121298&d=1223892257
...to the \WINDOWS directory.
The results: TF3D-QVGA installed in probably 10 minutes. Very slow progress at the beginning, but when the bar hit the 50% mark, installation was completed just after one or two more minutes. Startup time of TF3D is quite good, too. Takes about a minute to fire up. The drawbacks: The software 3D driver seems broken on the BA. No textures, but all white surfaces. One can see, though, that the shapes are rendered correctly. The clock on the Home tab flips correctly, messages on the Mail tabs fly in and out like they should etc. Unfortunately rendering is a tad slow, too. Not very smooth, yet no stills either. One can see the animations, but even if the textures were okay, it would be too slow to really enjoy.
Does anyone have an idea where to find suitable OpenGL ES software drivers for the BA?
Cheers.

which rom are you using ?
on my rom installing takes 30min and startup after soft resett takes 30 min, too.
i also get the white textures.

The "old" Helmi WM6 with German language files, which is really a fantastic ROM (always came back to it). Btw, when I tried TF3D, I already had loaded all kinds of stuff on my device (only about 15MB of internal memory free), so I'm really not talking about a virgin install, either.

BA was never designed for 3D graphic the first place, if you guys really like Manilla interface, I strongly suggest try out the Manilla 2D. just an idea.

imatrix said:
BA was never designed for 3D graphic the first place, if you guys really like Manilla interface, I strongly suggest try out the Manilla 2D. just an idea.
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I know, I know. M2D is great, but I miss the opportunity to view multiple appointments on the home tab.

[APP][29-11-2008]Manila Control v1.0, get the control over your today

Hello friends, I present to you an application that many are expecting, "Manila Control" also known as M3D control or M2D Control.
It's a simple program that allows us to switch between 2D or 3D Manila and the "Today" of Windows. Allows you to set our screen "Today" with our favorite plugins and Manila also used simultaneously.
Installation:
- Copy the cab to the terminal and install
- Use within MC Config Start - Programs - MC
- Tap set menu choose your Manila 2D or 3D and whether those who want to start after reboot.
- To end tap menu - SoftReset
Description:
- The application allows the use of today's windows and 2D/3D Manila.
- To exchange desk, is from Left softkey, but it hardbutoon can assign a, a FTouchFlo and in some models a gesture of activation of the cube. (There's configure it manually).
- The application does not interpret gestures.
- Close to leave Manila for more available RAM (Right SoftKey).
- Manila You can start at boot or not.
- Eliminates Manila from the list of items today.
- Some entries may appear in Spanish if you do not use a ROM WEE.
- The application does not stay resident in memory so it does not consume RAM.
Is a free, but voluntary donations are welcome.
You can use to include it in your ROMs, only respects to the author.
Mirrors do not, if you want to write something on the application or on your Web forum, put a link to this thread on XDA-Developers.com or the corresponding HTCSpain.com, so users can always have easy access to changes and updates.
The application is not OpenSource therefore not permitted any change in any component or part of it without explicit authorization.
Download the file has been fattened to 5Mb just to get points den rapidshare, the cab is really just about 100kb. For users who have problems with Rapid, I create another smaller mirror, but if you can please use the download of 5MB as I provide Rapid points.
Thanks to my friends to do the tests: Franlov (Diamond and Omnia), Xuo (Polaris), JCespi2005 (Touch Pro) and I have tested in Niki, Elf and Prophet.
Download RAPIDSHARE
Some videos running on a Diamond, Touch Pro and Phophet.
Touch Pro by Jcespi2005: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_e3R65bq00
Diamond by Franlov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF0m72sGQvY
Prophet by MastSogo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MXSU1TH5LI
The Spanish speakers are lucky that is already built into ROM in Spanish for Prophet, Niki, Elf / Elfin, Polaris and Touch Pro. And in the very near to Herald, Kaiser and Diamond.
TO DO (For next versions):
- Traslate error test to english.
- Add options to set activation mode.
- Add force show Modes.
- Add option for close manila mode, to reelase RAM (but will be slow)
- Release more RAM when close Manila3D.
- More traslations for othes.
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Mirror, (pass htcspain.com) only if have problems with rapid.
Link by JCespi2005 Manila control & FTouchFlo (preconfigurated) http://rapidshare.com/files/16892007...cspian.com.rar
Para los usuarios hispano hablantes este es el sito oficial donde doy soporte: http://www.htcspain.com/foro-f83/manila-control-equot-vuelve-a-tener-el-control-de-tu-t14418.html

Can't wait, to test it. The videos showing, what we can expect. YEAH

This looks really neat! Cant wait to test it!

Looks great! Nice, easy integration of the classic Today screen with TF3D/2D.
I remember seeing a video of this program some time ago, and I've been waiting for it ever since. Can't wait!

yeah ! many thanks for developing this will definitely try it out

good to hear ... but for manipulating the home screen of m2d or m3d is existing ... and we'll be public in some days .... maybe tomorrow ..

what is this qvga tf3d?new version?

Very nice! Can't wait to check it out.

my FUZE will be thankful upon the release of this!
Late,
Jstar

Any chance this could allow our kaisers to sleep with tf3d running?

cbass said:
Any chance this could allow our kaisers to sleep with tf3d running?
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I have not tried it, but it is possible to solve this problem by incorporating the functions.

mastsogo said:
Hello friends, I present to you an application that many are expecting, "Manila Control" also known as M3D control or M2D Control.
It's a simple program that allows us to switch between 2D or 3D Manila and the "Today" of Windows. Allows you to set our screen "Today" with our favorite plugins and Manila also used simultaneously.
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looks great, this is definitely an app that I would use. Looking forward to a release

now this is something I'd like to see.

great software control; good luck for this first release

very good idea!
Hope it will be avable soon!

Excellent job Mastsogo

Hey man,
that is a really great idea!!!
Could you add a function, that it TF3D in QVGA is enabled, that there is a function like the auto standby in windows mobile.
Cause there is the standby issue with ported TF3D on some devices. I thought about something like this:
If TF3D enabled and no user action is recognized for time x
then disable tf3d and go to standby.
At wake up reenable TF3D.
That would be great and it would make TF3D on my kaiser ready for every day use
If you need someone for testing, just PM me.

i hop sleep mo d fixes and start menu problems w

JeckyllHavok said:
Hey man,
that is a really great idea!!!
Could you add a function, that it TF3D in QVGA is enabled, that there is a function like the auto standby in windows mobile.
Cause there is the standby issue with ported TF3D on some devices. I thought about something like this:
If TF3D enabled and no user action is recognized for time x
then disable tf3d and go to standby.
At wake up reenable TF3D.
That would be great and it would make TF3D on my kaiser ready for every day use
If you need someone for testing, just PM me.
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Exactly! On Kaisers with TF3D when we hit the power button maybe that generates a Mortscript to switch to HTC Home then sleep, as the issue (I think) is with TF3D gaining focus of all windows.
Although I have heard also that this is not the case and its the OpenGL drivers themselves that does not allow the device to sleep.

Looks great.
Let's wait

IPAQ 614c tweaking.

These are the plugins i've managed to run on my ipaq , which were not intended to run on it:
All of them were downloaded from this forum, so many many thanks to the developers. For now i'll be providing feedback as i don't have paypal so can't donate anything else...
-Touch Flo (Manila) 2d
-Samsung Touch Wiz - with the limitations of the non WQVGA screen - cannot minimize the side bar.
-Fe Widgets - working very stable, axcept for the weather plugin - frameworks reports error. It's due to the ROM i'm using - the russian one with manila in it v1.6.
I think there won't be problems with the original hp rom.
Throttle launcher with touchflo 3d-ish interface - just installed it. Feedback later.
I'll be posting screenshots and detailed feedback later.

well. then?

HTC Leo datepicker not usable in Handbase

Hi
I use Handbase since years (Palm, Winmob). Now I have the new HTC HD2 (Leo). Date picker is not usable, because it seems too large. It shows only some days of the calendar, is not scrollable and the OK-button
can not be pressed. May be it is a scaling problem. In other
applications the HTC datepicker is normal scaled so it can be used. Is there a possibility to cheange the behaviour of the datepicker? Or is it possible to change datepicker (like iPhone style)?
Thanks for help

You will have to talk with Handbase about this as it is their code.
You have to remember that this is the first WVGA capacitive screen (with multi touch) on WM, technically WM doesn't support capactitive or multi touch - HTC did a little developing of their own. While there are some apps that were already 'touched', Resco Explorer for one, most are not and while they may work fine (and are usable) they should have their interfaces updated to take advantage of this new technology.

Hi there,
David Devaney, Jr. from DDH Software here.
We've received two reports of this problem already through our Support team. I have been testing this today to try to determine the problem. We had tested HanDBase on WM 6.5 before any devices were released and didn't encounter any usability problems. I double checked today that it would run on a WM 6.5 WVGA device using the emulators provided by Microsoft.
Based on my testing this likely has something to do with the Sense UI. I had no problems on the emulator with the Date Picker but then it uses the standard WM UI. So far I've not had any luck finding any development details on HTC's website or any special emulators from them. I actually came to this forum today to see if there was any information on developing for the Sense UI or if any other developers were having problems, as well as to see if a ROM was available that will work in the Emulator. I will search for those things so we can try to do some additional testing.
I am curious, since we don't have an HD2 here, if there is any setting to exclude certain applications from using the Sense UI. I know when Microsoft first added the ability to have larger screen resolutions there was a setting where you could tell the OS not to use that for certain applications that didn't yet support that.
Regards,
David Devaney, Jr.
DDH Software, Inc.

No, it doesn't look like there's any way to disable the large date pickers. There are a couple of places in Inesoft Cash Organizer where dates are not directly enterable, and no-one has found any way to make the standard WM dialogs appear yet. In the case of Cash Organizer you can see the dialog but the value never makes it back to the date field...

I deactivated Sense UI and use the default Today screen with SPB PocketPlus but this issue seems to be because Sense UI is imbedded into the OS for some dialogs.

6.5 Rom that does work with Handbase
Hi to everyone - glad to come across this thread & see I was not the only one experiencing this problem. I have a Touch Pro2 or Rhodium & tried the following Roms - all had the same datepicker issue:
- [ROM][WWE] 24-Dec ● DeepShining v7 ● Sense 2.5 LANDSCAPE | Leo 2.01 | WM 21887
- [ROM][24/DEC/09]CELL PRO SERIES[The Cell Evo V2][Cell Pro V9.5]UP NOW & Video Preview (this is a 2.1 ROM)
- [ROM][WWE] 24-Dec ● DeepShining v7 ● Sense 2.5 LANDSCAPE | Leo 2.01 | WM 21887
- |STABLE-FAST-PRO|ROM|21885,28014|Josh's New PerfectBlack 1.7-FINAL!|12-26|Sense 2.1| & Test 3 & 4 versions
- [ROM][WWE]|27-12-09|Rhodium_AF|HTC Sense 2.5 LANDSCAPE|LEO 2.XX|WM65 21887|ONLINE| (may have been an earlier dated rom)
- Miri WM65 21885 V9.0 Manila 2.5
The only newer ROM (either Sense 2.1 or 2.5) I could find that didn't have this problem was the Miri WM 6.5 21885 :: MANILA 2.1 :: V 7.0. The date picker is normal. With the non-working ROMS I tried every registry font change I could find with no effect.
Hope this information helps a bit.

Fastest ROM

Hi can you tell me which is the fastest ROM for our HDs .Doesn't matter 6.1 or 6.5. I just want fast ROM with weather on the homescreen. Of course I prefer 6.5 with sense but I don't know does it fast as 6.1. If there is WinMo 6.1 with interface Sense 2.5 and it's fast like touch flo for example will be great.
Thank you!

this question has been asked and answered dozens of times.
the fastest rom is the stock rom wm6.1 with touchflo 3d 1.3
this touchflo version only has a weather tab, no weather on home screen. also not all sense 2.1 versions have home screen weather.
if there were such a thing as a perfect blackstone rom, no other chef could be bothered building own versions, the blackstone classically is a device on the line. it has a high display resolution, yet not the powerful processor, most new devices with that resolution have.
so, you have to pick, either speed OR a lot of features.
you can try cloudy 0.7 for instance. while on the one hand, it has not been updated in almost a year (also, as in most roms, the twitter tab does not work anymore). but it combines wm6.1 with sense 2.5 and it is relatively fast.
but if you are actually all about the speed of the rom, you might want to try a stock rom, and simply move the weather tab to the 2nd position, right next to the home screen. it isnt't too much work to swipe over the display once to check the weather. just think of iphone users, who with one swipe only just unlocked their phone and are hardly ready to access all kinds of information without launching 267 apps

Fast rom and ram
Chef_Tony,
First of all sorry for going off topic i just have a few questions
1. Does more free Ram makes a rom faster. i mean if a rom have 100 MB free ram on start is faster then a ROM having 60 mb free ram.
2. I dont use manila, sense, titanium or any today screen, just resco today items, i use to have xperia x1 b4 my hd n there was this rom by laurenti, which have 160mb free ram.( x1 have 32 less ram then HD) and on my hd its only 100 mb(blackstonehedge v6.5) with sense, manila turn off, only resco today items, is there any ultra light rom like laurentis for hd(6.5 or 6.5.x bottom start button, X button closes app.)
3. if is there isnt any rom( i have searched, but might have missed) , can you please cook such a rom.
PS.
was using - Build 23134 - Laurenti v2 (new AKU 5309). from this thread on my x1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676383

1. not necessarily. less ram usage extends your battery life and has more potential for running apps.
it does affect the speed, when the operating system, for the sake of the example, let's say wm6.5.5 with CHT 2.0, hogs all the ram and cpu power, trying to run a 3d game or watch hi-def video might get annoyingly slow.
but the general speed of the GUI cannot be read from ram or cpu usage alone. when picking a rom you should have a look, where certain packages come from. when a rom mostly consists of leo packages, you will see that it is quite slow, because the leo with 1ghz has much better resources. generally, packs from devices closer to the blackstone, like the rhodium, run slightly faster.
2. so much for the theory. if you don't use any of the built-in home screen extensions, you can pick practically any rom around here. either you go with wm6.1 for more speed, or you pick something newer for more finger-friendliness. in contrast to most other users, you don't need to choose your rom for the manila version. just have a look at the integrated apps, because that can really save you time, setting up the device.
3. there are several ultra-light roms:
- one would be a stock rom, it comes with almost no integrated apps and you'd only need to disable touchflo and you're good to go.
- there is also raving rom wm6.1, which comes without manila or sense, just a custom home screen and a very little ram footprint.
- in the energy roms thread, at the very bottom, you'll find a titanium rom, which is meant for users of own GUI solutions, like spb mobile shell or you resco home. but i wouldn't exactly call it ultra-light, because it comes with a lot of integrated apps.
p.s. despite my user name and avatar, i am not a rom chef, or any chef for that matter, it is just a parody of one of the most annoying persons in late night infomercials
so unfortunately i can't cook you a custom rom.

Thank you very much for a quick reply,
look like i black stonehendge is best option for me know, really appreciated your detailed answers.
thanks again

Nicely answered Chef_Tony
Thread moved to General forum (where all queries should be asked )