Hi there
I just downloaded a emulator of the nintendo DS. Right now i'm playing Pokemon on my computer
So my question is: can a interested developer work on a emulator or something for the Diamond, so we could play games like pokemon etc.?
Anyone interested?
Google morphgear... don't think it has DS funcionality but I used to use it all the time on my Tilt
The Diamond hasn'tgot even 1% of power required to run DS games. The idea is nice though, because both PPC and DS have a touch screen.
I have pokemon for GBC on my diamond. PocketGNUboy i think.
kosherpig said:
The Diamond hasn'tgot even 1% of power required to run DS games. The idea is nice though, because both PPC and DS have a touch screen.
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And where did you get that from? Oh, the name gives it all a way !
If anything, the opposite statement that DS hasn't got 1% of the Diamond's power would be true. However the reality is Diamond has, theoretically, more processor power, a better GPU for better gaming. But up till now, the GPU has never been fully utilised due to the decision of HTC and Qualcomm (the processor+GPU manufacturer.)
Blaumes said:
I have pokemon for GBC on my diamond. PocketGNUboy i think.
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I have download and installed PocketGNUboy on my Diamond right now. Now, do i just have to download a ROM of Pokemon and put it on my diamond? Or are there special roms for pocket pc's?
Mhm i downloaded a ROM of gameboy color. But i cant use the touchscreen, i need the buttons to play. And somehow that doesnt work good.....
Anyone know what to do?
Because i cant use volume buttons for example, because when i press them, the volume bar appears, and the emulator does nothing...
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And where did you get that from? Oh, the name gives it all a way !
If anything, the opposite statement that DS hasn't got 1% of the Diamond's power would be true. However the reality is Diamond has, theoretically, more processor power, a better GPU for better gaming. But up till now, the GPU has never been fully utilised due to the decision of HTC and Qualcomm (the processor+GPU manufacturer.)
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From where I know? My friend has a 1,8GHz Intel Celeron CPU and NO$GBA (a DS emulator, written in assembly) ran at about 80% with no sound. How do you imagine running it on an about 3x weaker CPU?
And before you say my friend's computer sucks. If you read VisualBoyAdvance's readme file it says you need a 500MHz PIII CPU to run GBA games:
Windows: PIII 500Mhz machine for GBA emulation.
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GBA has a 16.8MHz CPU. So, now you will tell that thousands of users of this program are using a underpowered emulator?
Here's a great emulator I use on my Diamond, its MorphGear. You can play SNES, GB, GBA, NES, GameGear and SMS games on it. It requires you to pay a bit for some features(not sure what, never had the trial version for long) unless you're a pirate, but its well worth it.
Code:
http://www.spicypixel.com/web/page/morphgear/Download.aspx
Sleehond said:
I have download and installed PocketGNUboy on my Diamond right now. Now, do i just have to download a ROM of Pokemon and put it on my diamond? Or are there special roms for pocket pc's?
Mhm i downloaded a ROM of gameboy color. But i cant use the touchscreen, i need the buttons to play. And somehow that doesnt work good.....
Anyone know what to do?
Because i cant use volume buttons for example, because when i press them, the volume bar appears, and the emulator does nothing...
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The bottom of the screen is working as buttons. But for me there should be an image there showing the buttons but it doesnt. dont know why.
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From where I know? My friend has a 1,8GHz Intel Celeron CPU and NO$GBA (a DS emulator, written in assembly) ran at about 80% with no sound. How do you imagine running it on an about 3x weaker CPU?
And before you say my friend's computer sucks. If you read VisualBoyAdvance's readme file it says you need a 500MHz PIII CPU to run GBA games:
GBA has a 16.8MHz CPU. So, now you will tell that thousands of users of this program are using a underpowered emulator?
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Your an idiot, plain and simple and your friend must be mentally challenged, too. The Diamond's processor is running at about 500mhz and has a ton or RAM whereas the DS lite has like 32MB? of RAM (the original had way less than that and it needed to be expanded by a gba memory pack to even handle web browsing) and an incredibly weak processor and it managed to run GBA games just fine. The Diamond and almost any other late 2008 ppc can handle GBA games with ease. The iPhone, running at around 600mhz, can play most of them at full speed.
I seriously doubt that you understand anything about emulation or virtualization, but basically to emulate a GBA the software has to translate commands meant for the GBA processor into commands the Diamonds processor can understand which takes a hell of a lot more resources than virtualization which uses the full CPU power like the DS when playing GBA games so it easier for the DS to play GBA but that does not mean it is more powerful.
Back to question, you can use any emulator for PPC that plays GBA games like morphgear, but some of them require a gba BIOS which I can't post the link to but if you google gba_bios.bin you should find it pretty easily. also I cant post any ROMs but any regular .gba file will work
just use an emulator like the ones listed above or get the game boy color versions of the game
i use smartgear to play pokemon, works a treat
In regards to the keys need a remaperer such as AEG
earni said:
i use smartgear to play pokemon, works a treat
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Hey, you want to share your savefile? I played like 2 hours and then I was on my way to settings and I missclicked. I clicked reset
talking about emulators i found a gba emulator for ppc which is free. havent tried it yet though but try it out
http://www.bashbosh.com/gameboy-advance-emulator-for-pocket-pc/
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sammypwns said:
Your an idiot, plain and simple and your friend must be mentally challenged, too. The Diamond's processor is running at about 500mhz and has a ton or RAM whereas the DS lite has like 32MB? of RAM (the original had way less than that and it needed to be expanded by a gba memory pack to even handle web browsing) and an incredibly weak processor and it managed to run GBA games just fine.
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a) Because it doesn't emulate, nor virtualize, it is just backwards compatible ARM processor. And before you say GBA emuated GBC/GB. You know that GBA had simply GBC's hardware in it?
b) So tell authors of emulators they suck - they can't emulate a tiny GBA cpu with less than 500MHz. Or two NDS CPUs with total clock about 100MHz reuires
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(from website of NO$GBA, a program which emulates NDS, and does it fast).
c) Get yourself a eee pc, MSI Wind, or any other netbook and show me ANY NDS emulator running fullspeed.
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The Diamond and almost any other late 2008 ppc can handle GBA games with ease. The iPhone, running at around 600mhz, can play most of them at full speed.
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Have you noticed that I was talking about NDS?
sammypwns said:
I seriously doubt that you understand anything about emulation or virtualization, but basically to emulate a GBA the software has to translate commands meant for the GBA processor into commands the Diamonds processor can understand which takes a hell of a lot more resources than virtualization which uses the full CPU power like the DS when playing GBA games so it easier for the DS to play GBA but that does not mean it is more powerful.
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If you actually paid attention to what I wrote, you would see that I simply show that having 10x better CPU clock doesn't mean you can emulate a game.
Hojlind said:
talking about emulators i found a gba emulator for ppc which is free. havent tried it yet though but try it out
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I got like 5-6 fps when I played pokemon red fire, any idea how to increase the fps?
lattiS710 said:
I got like 5-6 fps when I played pokemon red fire, any idea how to increase the fps?
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no clue i just got home and tried it out and it wont even install on my diamond so i cant help you there
kosherpig said:
a) Because it doesn't emulate, nor virtualize, it is just backwards compatible ARM processor. And before you say GBA emuated GBC/GB. You know that GBA had simply GBC's hardware in it?
b) So tell authors of emulators they suck - they can't emulate a tiny GBA cpu with less than 500MHz. Or two NDS CPUs with total clock about 100MHz reuires(from website of NO$GBA, a program which emulates NDS, and does it fast).
c) Get yourself a eee pc, MSI Wind, or any other netbook and show me ANY NDS emulator running fullspeed.
Have you noticed that I was talking about NDS?
If you actually paid attention to what I wrote, you would see that I simply show that having 10x better CPU clock doesn't mean you can emulate a game.
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yes i do know that nintendo did just incorporate the gbc processor onto the mb of the gba. however the ds does not have that so it virtualizes the gba/gbc environment, and the ds does this at full speed with a very weak processor. emulation takes way more resources but any pc with a graphics card, even an intel gma, can run gba games at full speed. are you using the gba bios? try VBA on your pc and let me know how fast it plays? I pointed out the the iPhone can run GBA games at full speed with gpsphone so wy can't the diamond, which has a dedicated video card, albeit slightly slower processor?
looking at this thread made me install morphgear and i also registered some of the freatures and so forth .. well anyway.. just to say, what the horse... GBA is not running smooth... it's not even running on original speed... well it does come down to developement.. the specs of the phone is good enough for GBA i guess.. well GBC works perfect.. haven't tried other types of emul, on morphgear... well i really wanted to play pokemon emerald but no way, i can't because the emulator is to slow for me to be patient to finish it... i have a Raphael BTW.. well from being a symbian user in many years and coming from a nokia n95 phone which does emulate GBA games perfect and more than perfect, this kinda dissappoints me but i'm not going to cry as i remember when the first beta for emulating GBA on symbian was way slow.. well even my nokia n70 runned GBA in a over perfect speed... well it all comes down to developement..
as for NDS, it is possible but nothing we can expect to come fast at this moment.. we might want to wait and see,...
Pure speculation at this point, but anyone who might have more insight than the rest of us chime in on the full power of a Tegra 3 that we are supposed to be seeing in the next Transformer.
Specifically my wife is giving me the ultimatum on my PS2 game discs that are gathering dust. I adamantly insist that I'll see a PS2 emu on the Tegra 3 so I am saving all my PS2 RPG's for that day. She thinks I am being a packrat.
Only you can save my PS2 discs from the salvation army!
Don't hold out hope for a PS2 emulator on Android any time soon. The current PS1 emulators barely run at full speed, even when overclocked. On PC, you need about a 4Ghz CPU clock to run most PS2 games at full speed. It's all because the PS2 runs on a unique architecture that no one has yet been able to optimize for current hardware, and Sony has never been nice enough to open source the PS2 for emulators.
My advice? Rip all of your PS2 games to a hard drive, then get yourself a brand new gaming PC and overclock the crap out of it.
Hm, I never had any gaming device other than the original nintendo... and I got that from a garage sale. Man, you people are spoiled.
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Don't hold out hope for a PS2 emulator on Android any time soon. The current PS1 emulators barely run at full speed, even when overclocked. On PC, you need about a 4Ghz CPU clock to run most PS2 games at full speed. It's all because the PS2 runs on a unique architecture that no one has yet been able to optimize for current hardware, and Sony has never been nice enough to open source the PS2 for emulators.
My advice? Rip all of your PS2 games to a hard drive, then get yourself a brand new gaming PC and overclock the crap out of it.
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Thanks for the honest answer.
An even different point of view: the PS3 can't emulate via software the PS2. And Sony kinda knows how a PS2 works
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I still am waiting to get my note. Should be the end of Feb.
But in the mean time, I've been looking around for a decent NDS emulator for android, as it strikes me that the note is prefectly suited to be a DS emulator.
The screen seems the right size to be split in 2, it has a stylus, and it is powerful enough to potentially handle DS emulation.
The problem is I can't seem to find any good DS emulators anymore.
I found a copy of nds4droid 1.3 somewhere on the internet and tried it on my Xoom, but it is really slow.
Anyone know of a better one, and where the official nds4droid site is?
Or is NDS emulation on android dead and not likely to start up again?
Cheers
Jayd
On settings, switch on the second core
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On settings, switch on the second core
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The version I had had an experimental mode which apparently tried to make it faster, but it was still too slow on my Xoom, even with frame skip on 10.
What version do you have?
Are there any other ones?
It's weird that N64 can be emulated so well, but not the DS.
are you kidding, ds emulator barely runs smoothly on a core2dual, and you wish to run it on a dual core? its gonna take you like 5min to do a 1min action... even core2dual lags. just wait for core2dual happens on mobile, than nds is starting to be playable, by that time playing nds games is just like todays playing a snes game lol.
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are you kidding, ds emulator barely runs smoothly on a core2dual, and you wish to run it on a dual core? its gonna take you like 5min to do a 1min action... even core2dual lags. just wait for core2dual happens on mobile, than nds is starting to be playable, by that time playing nds games is just like todays playing a snes game lol.
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So GBA is the best handheld emulator that I'll get for a while then?
I just think it is strange that PS1 and N64 which have better graphics can run smoothly but not the DS, but then again, I don't know how they differ at the process level.
When is Nintendo going to realise that Handhelds are dead and bring out Mario, Zelda and Pokemon for Android? Seriously!!!
As regards the P10 Lite my other worry also is the GPU which is the MaliT830MP2. Comparing it with the Adreno 506 (Moto G5 Plus) or Samsung's equivalent do you guys think....
....is the 830 more than sufficient for 3D games, near-heavy multitasking and with game emulators?
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As regards the P10 Lite my other worry also is the GPU which is the MaliT830MP2. Comparing it with the Adreno 506 (Moto G5 Plus) or Samsung's equivalent do you guys think....
....is the 830 more than sufficient for 3D games, near-heavy multitasking and with game emulators?
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It's good but I don't know comparing it to other phones
Games like what ? Need for Speed No Limits runs without lag on my P10 Lite. PES 2016 the same. No problems. What games do you play ? Maybe I can test them and see how is the experience.
The games I'm talking about is the emulator type such as a PSP or PS1 emulators.
A "game" such as Epic Citadel would also be another one that I would be interested to know in terms of fps, etc.
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The games I'm talking about is the emulator type such as a PSP or PS1 emulators.
A "game" such as Epic Citadel would also be another one that I would be interested to know in terms of fps, etc.
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Epic Citadel is around 35 FPS. Sometimes 40 sometimes 60 depending on the scene. I will try now a PSP emulator with SEGA Rally.
It works pretty good with around 30-40 FPS but the sund sometimes lags and graphics not
Epic CItadel on 35fps is low for me. If on normal/medium/average settings if at all reaches 40fps then pease let me know?
So, any thoughts on emulators like PPSSPP or PSX/PS1 emulators?
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Epic CItadel on 35fps is low for me. If on normal/medium/average settings if at all reaches 40fps then pease let me know?
So, any thoughts on emulators like PPSSPP or PSX/PS1 emulators?
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I already said that PSP with SEGA Rally runs about 30-40 FPS.
You can't expect high-end performance from a mid-range device. It's A53 at 1.7 and 2.36 GHz so it's not quite powerful.
Epic Citadel on ultra high quality runs at 35 FPS but on high quality is like 60 FPS all the time.
Are you satisfied with those numbers?