Opal Vs Syrius - Touch Cruise ROM Development

Hi!
Has anyone tried both? Which is is better? Syrius has some bugs which I can live with...
Thank you for the feedback

nice topic. we shall se bad things and good things for each rom.

silalaval said:
Hi!
Has anyone tried both? Which is is better? Syrius has some bugs which I can live with...
Thank you for the feedback
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Why don't you try them both - you will have the best answer you can get. Asking which ROM is better is a nasty way to pollute this forum. Please read HELP for NEW GUYS.

dwaradzyn said:
Why don't you try them both - you will have the best answer you can get. Asking which ROM is better is a nasty way to pollute this forum. Please read HELP for NEW GUYS.
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thx
was planning to write the same, but decided not to

dwaradzyn said:
Why don't you try them both - you will have the best answer you can get. Asking which ROM is better is a nasty way to pollute this forum. Please read HELP for NEW GUYS.
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It is not my intention to pollute anything. I just though it could be useful to read to good and the bad of each ROM by informed people like you.
Personally I like to read reviews and also to add things to them...
Syrius is a GREAT ROM but has some bugs. Wouldnt you be happy to read if the alternative ROM has the same bugs before you loose one hour of your time flashing the ROM, uploading stufff etc?

silalaval said:
Personally I like to read reviews and also to add things to them...
Syrius is a GREAT ROM but has some bugs. Wouldnt you be happy to read if the alternative ROM has the same bugs before you loose one hour of your time flashing the ROM, uploading stufff etc?
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If you do not want to pollute you should read threads related each of these ROMs and make up your mind.
If you decide to try some ROM you could leave your opinion (if you have something new to say) about it in appropriate thread. That way if someone will want to know pros and cons about those ROMs they will easily find it.
I don't want to be harsh but if we keep these forums as clean as possible they will be more useful for everyone.

Ok.. Syrius R0 has about 90 pages of posts.. and you speak to me about pollution?
Your advice is for reader who barely know how to flash their devices to read 90 pages of posts, some of them being just " " "Great" etc... and you feel uncorfortable with a topic were people compare real bugs.
Opal doesnt even have a feature list...
Anyway, please close this topic... I have read most of the 90 pages of the Syrius posts and am well aware of its bugs.
I also would like for keeping this forum up and let us use all the information provided. I truly thank you all!

silalaval said:
Ok.. Syrius R0 has about 90 pages of posts.. and you speak to me about pollution?
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Think about it a second. You could not reach the info you wanted because of polluted thread. You tried to solve your problem by creating one more unnecessary thread. Is this the correct way to make the information easily accessible? Is this the way you would like this forum to look like? It is already in horrible state now, please do not make it even worse for all of us.

I Agree.. can some Admin close or delete this topic?

BTW.. has anyone knows the answer to my question in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433416
It would certainly help me before trying Opal
Thanks

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Think about it a second. You could not reach the info you wanted because of polluted thread. You tried to solve your problem by creating one more unnecessary thread. Is this the correct way to make the information easily accessible? Is this the way you would like this forum to look like? It is already in horrible state now, please do not make it even worse for all of us.
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Actually @silaval is right, why should we read hundreds of "great" and "thanx" postings to find out some real oppinions, instead of creating a new thread , a tehnical one? I don't say it is a good ideea to open new threads when a previous one gets polluted with nonsense posts, but forum amins should give more moderating rights for the ones who really contribute to those threads (chefs, rom makers, SERIOUS beta testers like @batista70, @NeoS2007, @ravest etc) to keep clean this forum. I am moderator in some gsm repairing related forums and the thing I hate most is the pollution with nonsense "thanx" messages. Posters, if you wanna contribute with feedback, do it, if you can't than donate, othervise shut up, but don't post just for the sake of posting, or to increase post count, it doesn't helps!
BR
mano
ps: maybe admins should consider to update forum's vbb script, and give us a "THANX" button, this way threads would be much clearer.

silaval is absolutely right, its not the same thing if a board is polluted or a thread. Just think further guys, the REALLY important topics are either sticky or are nearly always on top of the first page, cause people post into them so much. So, I agree with you, avoiding unnecessary threads is a good thing - but the problem with "thank you" posts is a MUCH bigger problem.
@mano42: I second that, hopefully admins will integrate that feature, would save aprox. 50 posts / ROM thread.
regards,
Martin

Way to kill a possibly informative thread guys...he asked a very practical question. Both of these ROMs come from different sources and have pretty different pros and cons and both release posts have a ton of filler so it's difficult to see possible bugs in the ROM. Instead of berating him for 4 or 5 posts, how about you just weigh in on the topic at hand? The only other alternative should be to ignore the post and let it drop down the list of posts.
To answer his question, I find the bugs in Syrius R0 to not be too bad and the things added make it one of the fastest/lightest ROMs I've used on a HTC device. Since R1 was just released, it should be a moot point now as most of those bugs have been quashed.

Guess you'll have to wait a bit for any answers since R1 just came out :O

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Can any bdy post BUG FREE WIN 6.5 ROM??????????????????????

ive tried each n every rom so plzz ne 1 can u upload a bug win6.5 rom for htc opal viva....................
thanx in advance
For God's sake! There are already dozens of threads asking the same question, and tons of them are already in the first page, so you don't even need to search to find them. Couldn't you just look at them and post there.
Man, the moderation in this section is dead... Half of the threads here break the forum rules...
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i agree with MusikMonk
MusikMonk said:
For God's sake! There are already dozens of threads asking the same question, and tons of them are already in the first page, so you don't even need to search to find them. Couldn't you just look at them and post there.
Man, the moderation in this section is dead... Half of the threads here break the forum rules...
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quite true...some folks thinks that they could just waltz in here, make their demand and when somebody pities them and helps them out they just walk out...
@rishid
Its clear that this is not a customer support/care center...the great guys in this forum put a lot of hardwork, full of trials and errors, wasting time and energy trying to bring out better, efficient ROMs. Atleat, go through what other members have posted in the relevant sections and i am sure that you will find a problem similiar to yours and it may have been resolved in the post itself.
i don't think it's a good idea just to start a thread with a dumb question like 'Give me the best ROM' or 'Give me the lightest ROM' or 'Can any bdy post BUG FREE WIN 6.5 ROM??????????????????????' and the like.....
i don't mean you in particular...don't take it to heart...just pointing out the fact
hope you have a happy stay here in this great forum!
there's NO such thing as a Bug-Free WM6.5 ROM.

Does the HD2 have any good solutions to the graphics problems?

Hey all,
I was using my HD2 today and I don't like the way the phone has certain lags :/
I know about Chainfire's Patch for HD2, and i've heard about another patch that supposedly does the same thing. Also, there seem to be various different forums for boosting the performance on the HD2. I would like (if this is possible ) to have the best known combination of registry tweaks and programs and modifications in one thread so that they'll be easier for everyone to locate I think key improvement factors would include Performance, Smoothness in day to day graphics eg Scrolling through the Album in Landscape or Music or the Start Menu, Speed (The CPU doesn't Idle when it needs to be used for power).
I think what bugs me most is that seemingly slight lag when scrolling through HTC Sense, or when playing Teeter. Sorry if i'm bothering everyone
Thanks for helping
why shall anyone spoon feed You? what about "search" and then "contribute" making such a thread if You feel theres such a need?
... no wonder people are leaving this forum.
bronx said:
why shall anyone spoon feed You? what about "search" and then "contribute" making such a thread if You feel theres such a need?
... no wonder people are leaving this forum.
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What forum :/ And i'm not ASKING to be sppon fed like some little kid, i'm just saying everything is scattered all over the place, and if everything was in one place then no one would "Leave the forum" No offense meant though
Elemental_Fire said:
What forum :/
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This forum, the thing you are posting on.
This is a forum.
MidnightDraven said:
This forum, the thing you are posting on.
This is a forum.
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And a forum is meant to be searched. Even if there's only one thread for everything (which will not happen I think), one still has to search that thread.
Mod, please delete this!
Elemental Fire,
A little confused by your post. There is a Hints and Tips thread and a Questions thread on here which should cover off most of what you need. Even if everything you wanted was in one thread I bet it would grow to such an extent that you would have to search through it at some point to find and understand the variations that pop up with published solutions, tweaks, etc.
You have 2 options; start your own thread and populate it with all the "best features" you are looking for or keep a log of the things you find that will be useful to you. For the former you get to put some time into the forum and help others out, for the latter you satisfy your own needs.
Hope this helps.
WB
I´m noob also, got my lesson concerning search teached also ..............
Go here: they work on my stock-rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629388
(Use SK-Tools, and: HKLM means H_KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE )

Simple solution for [ROM] threads to not grow to 98697615897834 pages...

Ok, so as I was reading though the DC 2.06 thread trying to gain some knowledge and figure out any bugs/workarounds/tips/tricks I got to page 30 something and just had to post this.
PLEASE
PLEASE
PLEASE
Stop posting USELESS, POINTLESS, BLOATING, POSTS!!!
I'm not trying to be hostile or anything but posts like....
"booting it now!" and "waiting for files to copy back to my sd card." and "I'm only 50% downloaded, can't wait!!"
While yes... it's good you are excited, but honestly, 99% of us don't give a damn. It makes it freakin' IMPOSSIBLE to navigate through this forum!!! And I don't want to hear anybody cry "Search" either. vBulletin search is NOT the best out there. I think yahoo Boolean searches from 1997 were better. And you have to search with the most basic of keywords, and those keywords (like apps2sd) are used in so many POINTLESS posts that its again, USELESS.
I mean, there is basically NO moderation here. It's like XDA Hero CDMA forums isn't even here. Things just run amock.
Sorry if this post came off as a bit hard, but come on. I mean, COME ON. Let's ALL work together to make this forum a little easier to find information. Is your post asking a question or adding anything to the community? No? Then think twice about posting in a [ROM] thread. I know the Devs appreciate the positive re-inforcement of their ROMs and they deserve it! However I dont think ROM threads are the place for that, NOT ONLY THAT, but when threads such as DC's start as a 2.0 and then are updated to 2.1 then 2.2 then 2.3 etc etc etc and the original post of the thread is changed instead of creating a new thread, so therefor the first 200 pages aren't even remotely relevant to 2.3 they're still from 2.0!
Ok, I'm sorry...
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i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry
AGREED! And it didn't come of hard to me!
Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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i'm not trying to be hostile or anything, and i don't have anything against this or you, but really.
there have been so many threads JUST like this before. they all say the same thing.
in the end, they become one of those 'useless' posts, because no matter how many times you say this, its probably not going to stop people from making useless posts. sorry
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Then somebody give me some damn moderation powers and I'll click that delete button all day long.
I moderate 3 other vBulletin forums. Mainly car forums, with 50,000+ members. I have no problem keeping them clean, and would not mind spending some of that time over here too. Hell even if I'm the only one doing it that's better than nothing!
thats definitely the worst thing about this forum. we don't have any active mods on this one. most other forums do. not us.
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Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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Really?
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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awesome visited the forums at exactly the right time it seems..downloading now
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YES!!!!!!!!
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downloading now. this is my crack
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Downloading now. Thanks!!!
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You get my point?
Ok, you said your thanks.... time for CONSOLIDATION!
Yeah although u are correct in ur intent. The best way to get these issues taken care of is for our forum to get a mod that actually spends time here and doesn't mind being hated. I personally have tried to get them to make me a mod. But I guess u gotta be someone special to get that privilege. As I always do what they ask of me then never here a reply ontheir decision. Our forum is held down by the fact we don't have subforums like general, themes and apps, q&a and so on. But yeah the only way to get are issues resolved is to contact the mods and ask them to help us.
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Ok, you said your thanks.... time for CONSOLIDATION!
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ROFL This post made me laugh. Its so true, those posts are useless and offer nothing to the Rom maker.
I like the idea of the developers having something like a discuss thread where the good jobs and such can continue be posted for the roms. It becomes pretty difficult looking through the thread to find useful tidbits when it gets to be over 50 pages or so.
I do agree that having a moderator would be of great benefit too. +1 for toast becoming a mod.
U cant fix stupid :-/ people think posts counts make them cool. Posting one word replies followed by 10chars. Itll never be fixed, too many idiots. Just be happy we dont have that gay rep system.
Personally I like treasure hunts, so I am pretty happy the way things are. Lol.
Joking aside, I think that this is one of the strongest online communities/forum that I have joined and cared about. I think that the slack the moderators allow has allot to do with how I feel about this community. People are allowed to have a personality, a opinion, and a sense of humor here. It is very nice to come to a forum like this.
The way I read the long ROM threads is read the first page then go to last page and work my way backwards... works well for me. I see the updates the ROM creator posted and then the latest information being passed along that way.
Thinking about what i read now........ can't wait to finish..
LOL no really i do wish we could kindly ask the Devs to start a new thread upon each major revision and maybe put a link in the new thread to the previous version's tread. then post like mine about may not become as frustrating to read do to the lower volume of them.
doojer said:
Plus, those posts are more useful than this one. At least they give the dev, who worked for hours or days or months on the ROM, the satisfaction of knowing people appreciate it.
This post, on the other hand, accomplishes nothing.
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Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.
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Actually he is trying to make this forum more manageable. Which IMO you would have to be blind not to realiese. Seriously 300+ pages are really hard to go though. And sometimes in threads ill see a theme or something cool and ill feel like good thing I read every post in that thread or I wouldnt have that. It feels like some really cool stuff gets barried in the threads.
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Damageless is trying to fix finding updates and themes with his updater tool. The updates will come to you! How cool is that? He is also going to try to help other devs to include a updater on their ROMs. Although this will not fix how cluttered the threads are in this forum it will assist you in finding the latest and greatest ways to trick out your Hero.
the only thing that should change is just every time a fix is found the OP should just take the fix and put it in the first post. People should be able to flash a rom and have the fixes all in the first post, this way people dont ask repeat questions. Whether or not everyone likes it people are always going to post "useless" stuff, which can be viewed as appreciative thanks or just people showing their excitement. I personally like xda a lot because people have personality its not all just straight discussion about a rom or anything like that.
Maybe we just could have a separate subforum for each major ROM? that way there could be the threads for people rambling and such, and separate threads for bug fixes, releases, etc.
I'm new 'round here (obviously), and I have to agree, finding the information I need has been difficult with every thread being hundreds pages. Finding that one post of someone with the same problem as me (and a solution) is a monumental task.
Just give each rom author a thread for people to leave their thanks, and keep the rom threads to discussing the rom.
+frickin1 for this thread. I think we should just start a poll to vote for someone here to be a mod, and just make the current XDA moderators accept that we have that mod... it's just ridiculous how it is right now.
what about in-thread stickies...there has to be a plugin for it somewhere...where you can nominate posts as thread stickies and all of the thread stickies, once approved by the OP, move to the beginning of the thread, so it would go
1st Post: OP
2nd Post: First approved helpful post
3rd Post: 2nd approved.... etc
that way all of the useful stuff will be right on that first page. If it's not already a plugin...it should be.

[Q]Slimest NAND ROM

I was wondering what is the slimest rom out there?
By slimest I mean small, fast, and without crap.
Thanks
Non sense builds. Next time, please don't post something like this again.
Well, it would be great and much easier to have like a database of roms... but anyway... And of course non-sense roms are slimest and fastes, but not all of em are.
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Non sense builds. Next time, please don't post something like this again.
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Eh!? What was wrong with his/her post? It was a simple question.
These questions have been asked so many times, it's starting to even annoy me, sorry. Lets be frank here, if this thread was useful, then so would all the other threads which ask the same question. But do people here, who ask the same question, look at those threads, with the same question? No, that's why they keep reappearing, which makes those threads that ask the same question, and this one, useless. These threads are only useful for those who ask the question, where the "answer" can be found in another thread. And this "answer" varies, and can only be proven true, if it works for you. So in all, questions like these can only be answered by yourself, where you try out builds for yourself.
Okie back to topic. From my experience of non sense builds, and these were builds when they were SD, JDMS and Nexus were the fastest for me. Especially JDMS as it blew my mind away.
jM2.me said:
Well, it would be great and much easier to have like a database of roms... but anyway... And of course non-sense roms are slimest and fastes, but not all of em are.
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With ~2-3 ROMs coming out every day - that is going to be extremely hard to keep track of.
How about instead of creating threads with ROM releases, we make a xda-rom-database and developers will be able to post ROMS there. As well as users will be able to rate, etc....

Fast and stable rom?

HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return
Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.
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Well it depends what exactly you want. For example you can try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
I tried these roms and I am happy with them. Works fast, didn't have any problems with anything. I just give you example of a roms which you can try.
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with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm
Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
I preferi the cm's rom beacause for my experience all sense roms are a lot slower than cm
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EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).
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EXACTLY!!
You see! He tried recommending you the best and most stable 3 roms of all from his opinion, yet you liked NONE of them. Your "preferences" are different from everyone else's. He likes sense, you don't. He didn't have crashes on tytung's ics, you did. He thinks Sense is fancy and wonderful, you think it's slow and buggy.
It was your fault for making this thread in the first place. That's why the "best rom", "most stable", "fastest rom" ... etc threads are despised and hated.
I suggest you read Kameirus's post and you will understand what I mean. (if you haven't already).
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the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Then stick to windows mobile.
Ansem said:
the problem is that i don't have many time,so i can't try every rom in this forum. So i must ask and try only the rom that has been considered the best :/
i know all you said,but not all have the time and knowledge to understand what's the best rom only reading the first post of every rom
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Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.
Ansem said:
HI,i search for a stable and possibly fast rom. It's no important for me the android version, i prefer a fast old version the a slower but newer.
Someone can tell me some good rom? i don't search the best,i know that there isn't the best rom, i need only a CM7/9/10 fast and stable,beacause Now with the CM9 by tytuning i have a lot of problem
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you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
Ever-Never said:
you can use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1256423
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Spamming for 10 posts? Please do it somewhere else.
Nigeldg said:
Hey, what's the best colour?
What's the best food?
What's the best phone?
What's the best song?
What's the best movie?
What's the best car?
OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S AN OPINION BASED QUESTION!
Seriously, I'm getting really tired of these best ROM threads. There is no correct answer, and yet you people still create them. All that happens is that they're closed by a mod or they turn into 10 post spam threads where new users open old threads to post questions in the dev forums. If you just wanted the ROM most people use then why not look at the thread view count and post count?
To quote PG101 (I think) 'coming to XDA and asking for the best ROM is like going into a bar full of drunks and asking what's the best drink'.
I wouldn't have posted this if you had admitted in post #6 that you're wrong through Marvlesz and Kameirus's pure logic, but you've somehow tried to justify posting an idiotic question which is quite annoying.
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Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
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Con500 said:
Isnt this an Android Q&A forum. Why is everyone so neurotic about these "best rom" threads? There is a avalanche of information on xda...This i agree...however its very easy to get completely blindsighted by the sheer volume of threads and the "best rom, most stable" etc, are usually shot down very soon after the question is asked.
If one cant offer any guidence or if one gets frustrated by these threads then why click on the thread and why take time to respond negitively instead of just skimming past and ignoring the thread?
I get that it becomes tiresome for seasoned members here to see these threads but please can we not just assume that the posters are just being "Lazy". Its also worth note that is increasingly difficult for new users to post here for fear of upsetting others with their (mostly well intentioned) ill thought out questions..
XDA is such a great source of knowledge and resource and i agree one needs to take the time to read, read and read some more sometimes though we can get lost and sometime are just asking to be pointed in a direction that has benefited others. Ie' a rom thread where the reading will begin b4 flashing
Flashing for the 1st time can be tricky as their is a lot to take in and one can be nervous of the procedure, and if too many of us take it apon ouselves to be the forum police then the the prospect becomes slightly less appealing.
Sorry i dont mean to offend anyone by sounding off but i too am new to much of the flashing roms, and also am guilty of comming to these threads in the hope of finding a majority of agreement on a particular rom. I do understand that it is subjective and one does not fit all. However it can give confidence to new flashees if experienced users can offer recomendations which have been offered here above, which i personally an very greatfull for.
Sometimes we are but sheep and will follow where led.
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see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA
Kameirus said:
see this is where you missed the whole point
theres like 50 whats the best rom thread ...and if someone is to lazy to search or read then they dont belong on XDA
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I do get it. But it doesnt mean it doesnt frustrate me to see the responses in these threads just as it frustrates those who are rattled by the thread even existing who feel the need to jump on and respond.
If it bugs you... you can leave it alone and move on OR you can let the OP know your frustration by refusing to answer the question and telling them to get off XDA. But surely its easier to ignore it?
It honest feels that the forum has become quite arrogant at times especially where "newbs" are concerned. And it can feel at times slightly Elitist (those that Can vs those who need help) with a disregard to anyone who doesnt know where to begin.
One post i read earlier told a FM to "get off the android forum and dont come back" for asking a similar question... How is this helping and how is it got to the point where there are many 'thanks' thumbsup to this sort of response.
I doubt that OP would be back in a hurry but i guess if it stops them asking 'stupid' questions....Theres a pattern forming where some members here who have flashed successfully a few times then become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. Why not just 'Not Respond' at all??
Its like pack mentality sometimes and thankfully it is a minority of members who are rattled and on the whole XDA is immensely helpful to newcomers who will learn the hard way to never ask "that" question :banghead:
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We are members of this community, thus we have to do our best to make it better. We do this by telling people who post such threads about how wrong it is and the correct way of finding "the" rom. But it got out of hand, you can check that for yourself. Every other week, there is a thread asking the exact same thing, i.e "best rom, fastest, stable". Whereas it should be common sense that there is no best in subjective things as Nigel summed it.
Now the problem is that many people think xda is a support site. Here is a quote from a senior member that I couldn't agree more with:
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He is simply one of these XDA n00bs who comes here with the false impression that XDA is tech support for their manufacturers device.
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While it is true that you can find help on xda, that doesn't mean it is given on a silver platter. If you can't bother to help yourself, we can't bother to help you. Furthermore, finding a question that a 2-click search could've provided a more-than-satisfactory answer or finding a post that is almost the same as a two-rows-below post is rather very irritating.
... become part of this club that pretends to be irritated by 'best rom' threads and i assume it makes them feel superior by responding with negative feedback to ones who genuine are looking for just a point in the right direction. ...
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That's impossible, if you're asking "what's the best rom", there is no way you're looking for a point in the right direction. Because basically there is no right direction. Some people even try to justify their stupid posts with even more stupid posts.
The HD2 has been out for about 4 years now. NO matter what your problem is, it has a 99% probability it has been asked AND answered before MULTIPLE times. Now if people can't bother to follow the very first rule of the forum rules, they don't deserve to be helped.
When they first registered on xda, they agreed to abide by the terms, rules and conditions. Now if you agree to abide by something and then break that thing, you take full responsibility and deserve everything you get for that breaking.
Con500 said:
Isnt this an Android Q&A forum
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A common misconception, this is a development forum (hence XDA developers ). Other than this I don't really have anything to add to Marvlesz's post tbh. You have to understand that when I posted that there had been literally three similar threads in a row. When you're posting a thread search results for the same or similar title even come up, so there wasn't any excuse for this thread to have been created. There's a subtle line between not knowing and not trying, and this is the latter.
It's problem to me too... I have 1.5 gb roms on my SD and no one fully work for me =(
Ok so i am aware that my earlier post was ott on my part and can only apologize. Must have been posting through some red mist I admit i jumped in without thinking and was unduely judgemental. Sorry bout that Everyone here esp devs are doing such amazing work for our gadgets to perform at their peaks and i am immensely appreciative of that. I agree with the above that this is first a "Development" forum and can be misconceived by some (myself included ) as somewhere where the answers are uniform and one in the same. However i see this is not the case and opinions to questions such as "whats the best, fastest most stable" etc, are so diverse and if everyone were to give an opinion then i guess these threads would also just get messy and lengthy with NO satifactory conclusion.
Sorry Guys...Really Didnt mean to offend. However i can see how my wording may have done so :banghead:
My tail is well and truly behind my legs as i type this
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Ansem said:
with the third i have a lot of problem: system crash every time that i install an app,and sometime i lost the data of the app.
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it hapen to everyone, even me, you just make a wrong installation! Learn, serach and test before post. No other way to know which the best are.
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Kameirus said:
stop posting this damn whats the best rom crap
everything you just posted has been asked and answered many many times
learn to search or sign out of XDA and dont return
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