How powerful is the Adam's video out. If I have an 8gb .mkv in 1080p, will the Adam be able to play it smoothly on a 50 inch TV? How about if that same file is playing from an external USB hard drive connected by USB.
Some of these factors don't count(File size, tv size).
If adam supports 1080p output any hd tv with the right connection (hdmi) will work. As for mkv it depends, mkv is just a container, depends on the codecs used for audio, video; anyway, the hardware is capable of outputting hd video, most other variables are in the software, and if the delivered software isn't enough, we will always hack it.
As I don't see much of a discussion on this....
I got the A7 not only for its power ( which it does everything 3d wise crazy good ) but also for its video/hdmi...thing is I can not seem to get videos working nicely with this unit.
Ive tried 480p and 720p videos in both mp4, mkv and avi containers at varying encodings ( xvid, h246, ect ) and all of which either "chop" or just are waaay too slow to be considered playable.
I've tried Vplayer, arcMedia, Rockbaseplayer, imbedded player.... running out of things to try to get videos nicely working on this thing...
Sad...as it has a nice HDMI port...
Anyone tried to get videos working on this and if so have you gotten better results?
Thanks
yes MP4, AVI & MKV does work but the h264 codec that's used for the video must be in baseline or main profile level. It does not support High profile. I realized this when my own encodings did not work.
n some ways this is sort of silly as High profile would give you the best encoding option for 1080p/720p videos
What's siller is that the A7 does read NTFS (as far as I can tell) so having a full lenght 720p or 1080p is really sort of tough with a 4GB limit. To get good qaulity for a 2 hour 1080p movie you are definitely going to go over the 4GB limit
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yes MP4, AVI & MKV does work but the h264 codec that's used for the video must be in baseline or main profile level. It does not support High profile. I realized this when my own encodings did not work.
n some ways this is sort of silly as High profile would give you the best encoding option for 1080p/720p videos
What's siller is that the A7 does read NTFS (as far as I can tell) so having a full lenght 720p or 1080p is really sort of tough with a 4GB limit. To get good qaulity for a 2 hour 1080p movie you are definitely going to go over the 4GB limit
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Any way you can do a quick sample of a video? of both 720p and 1080p?
I'm curious as I may return it if I don't get the quality I'm looking for over hdmi...
Thanks for the quick response and much is appreciated.
Cheers
I just got my A7 and I've been playing with the video a little.
I used Nero Recode to encode to the target of 720 Main Profile (3.1 CABAC 2 Ref Frames) AAC LC 192mbps. It actually worked! I'm not saying it was great, but I don't know of any mobile device that supports CABAC @ 720p (It crushes older PCs and that tablet that starts with an "i"). I may turn it off and try again.
I agree that 1080p is going to be hard if not impossible to wedge into 4GB. I would question why you would even try it. 720p looks really good unless you plan on projecting it.
Anyway, I plan on playing with MP4 and probably WMV. I was really suprised that I couldn't get either a .ts or .m2ts file to play. These are generally easier to decode because the container is less complex than .mkv or .mp4. I may try the PS3 trick and rename it to .mpg to see if it plays.
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Just played a 720p (1280 x 528) WMV (VC1/WMA Pro) flawlessly. I'll cook up a 1080p one today. VC1 doesn't do as well at low bitrates as H264, but it's easier to decode.
A couple issues I noticed:
1. Connecting the HDMI Port sometimes kills the touch screen. Putting the unit into standby seems to recover
2. The volume affects the sound level on HDMI, so make sure it's cranked (weird)
3. I could only get 2 channel out from WMA Pro 5.1. I'll have to try something with AC3/AAC. I'm guess it will have the same issues.
4. I couldn't get audio on my old TV (It is kind of a POS). Audio worked via my receiver.
dburckh said:
I just got my A7 and I've been playing with the video a little.
I used Nero Recode to encode to the target of 720 Main Profile (3.1 CABAC 2 Ref Frames) AAC LC 192mbps. It actually worked! I'm not saying it was great, but I don't know of any mobile device that supports CABAC @ 720p (It crushes older PCs and that tablet that starts with an "i"). I may turn it off and try again.
I agree that 1080p is going to be hard if not impossible to wedge into 4GB. I would question why you would even try it. 720p looks really good unless you plan on projecting it.
Anyway, I plan on playing with MP4 and probably WMV. I was really suprised that I couldn't get either a .ts or .m2ts file to play. These are generally easier to decode because the container is less complex than .mkv or .mp4. I may try the PS3 trick and rename it to .mpg to see if it plays.
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Just played a 720p (1280 x 528) WMV (VC1/WMA Pro) flawlessly. I'll cook up a 1080p one today. VC1 doesn't do as well at low bitrates as H264, but it's easier to decode.
A couple issues I noticed:
1. Connecting the HDMI Port sometimes kills the touch screen. Putting the unit into standby seems to recover
2. The volume affects the sound level on HDMI, so make sure it's cranked (weird)
3. I could only get 2 channel out from WMA Pro 5.1. I'll have to try something with AC3/AAC. I'm guess it will have the same issues.
4. I couldn't get audio on my old TV (It is kind of a POS). Audio worked via my receiver.
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With main profile you should be able to go up higher than 3.1. As for encoding 1080p well, if I or my friends have a 1080P TV why not? (lol). 720p is fine but since it does do 1080p why not use it. I have to say 4 GB could be tight for a long movie even at 720p, imagine doing LOTR at 720p? Honestly it's probaly going to be great for TV shows or really short movies. As for why I would want 720p or 1080p on this thing? It's so I can watch it on my big screen or at my friends big screen. Would be pointless to view it on the built in screen as it's only 800x480
I love my Archos 70 IT, and I'm really impressed by the great multimedia players Archos included. I've been using the video function to browse my local network for SMB shares - I have a 1.5TB NAS storage appliance loaded with TV shows, music and movies. I open the NAS over SMB and can stream videos great. However, a lot of my library is in 720p quality. These files play fine for about 1 minute, then get very choppy.
I haven't yet attempted to copy a 720p video to the Archos locally to see if it will play smoothly. I suspect it will, since it plays just fine for a minute or more in most cases. I think the network buffer is running low. If I pause the video for 5 seconds then resume, it plays smoothly for a few more seconds before getting choppy again. But pausing it for longer doesn't seem to help any more.
I don't see any options in the app to change the buffer length or anything like that. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can improve hi-res network video playback?
Note: I'm using an 802.11g wireless network with the Archos about 5 feet from the WAP. No signal strength issues.
Even with a regular PC or laptop, it's kind of iffy for me to stream 720P consistently. While in theory, a WiFi G connection is supposed to be 54 Mbps, in reality, it's often a lot lower due to interference from other WiFi radios. Where I live there are a dozen WiFi radios that show up when I do a scan. What's amazing is that one or two of them are stronger than my wireless router a few feet away. Who are these people?!
Bye.
Ha, thanks for the response. I can definitely stream 720p to my laptop successfully. The radio in the Archos might not be able to keep up though. Dunno. In any case, some sort of buffer options would help!
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I love my Archos 70 IT, and I'm really impressed by the great multimedia players Archos included. I've been using the video function to browse my local network for SMB shares - I have a 1.5TB NAS storage appliance loaded with TV shows, music and movies. I open the NAS over SMB and can stream videos great. However, a lot of my library is in 720p quality. These files play fine for about 1 minute, then get very choppy.
I haven't yet attempted to copy a 720p video to the Archos locally to see if it will play smoothly. I suspect it will, since it plays just fine for a minute or more in most cases. I think the network buffer is running low. If I pause the video for 5 seconds then resume, it plays smoothly for a few more seconds before getting choppy again. But pausing it for longer doesn't seem to help any more.
I don't see any options in the app to change the buffer length or anything like that. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can improve hi-res network video playback?
Note: I'm using an 802.11g wireless network with the Archos about 5 feet from the WAP. No signal strength issues.
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The fact that it plays ok at first, then gets choppy indicates that you're playing through the contents of the buffer faster than it can be replenished by the network stream. A bigger buffer would make it play longer, but it would still run out. Picture a bucket with a hole in it. If you don't fill it faster than it drains out the hole, it will eventually be empty, no matter how big the bucket. Pausing is like putting your finger in the hole. It lets it refill, but it can only get so full. Pull out you finger and it starts draining again. The only solution is a bigger hose or a smaller hole
I too get the choppiness when streaming via smb. But I have put a 6gb 720p movie on my A70S, and it too gets choppy. This was with 2.1.4. AND with the newer 2.1.8. so then I fully restored the device to increase the swap file, and it's not any better. Now im rooted using archangel, and used setcpu to keep the cpu maxed, but not any better than it was.
btw, i used the archos video splitter app to get such a big file on there.
Even 1.5gb 720p cartoons act up, i get the video falling behind when there is alot of motion. I'm hopeful it will get better!
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I too get the choppiness when streaming via smb. But I have put a 6gb 720p movie on my A70S, and it too gets choppy. This was with 2.1.4. AND with the newer 2.1.8. so then I fully restored the device to increase the swap file, and it's not any better. Now im rooted using archangel, and used setcpu to keep the cpu maxed, but not any better than it was.
btw, i used the archos video splitter app to get such a big file on there.
Even 1.5gb 720p cartoons act up, i get the video falling behind when there is alot of motion. I'm hopeful it will get better!
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Did you put the movie on your SD card? How fast is your SD card? Try moving it to internal memory and playing it from there.
Yes, i forgot to mention that. I tried it first on the SD card, still crap. Put it on the internal memory, still just as bad. I did think that doing so would fix it, but, no dice. unfortunately.
Of course you should be able to play a 720P video from inside your Archos cleanly. By any chance is the video encoded at a high bit rate, like maybe 10 Mbps? I have a bunch of videos I can play fine on mine, however, I encoded them at maybe 2 - 4 Mbps. The specs for your Archos says:
Video Playback1 • MPEG-42 HD (up to 720p, 30 [email protected])
• MPEG-42 ([email protected] AVI, up to DVD resolution, 30 [email protected])
• H.264 HD ([email protected] up to 720p, 30 [email protected])
• WMV9/VC1 (AP up to 720p 30 [email protected])
• M-JPEG (Motion JPEG Video) in VGA resolution
With optional plug-in (downloadable on www.archos.com):
• Cinema: MPEG-2 (up to DVD resolution MP/D1, 30 [email protected] Mbps)
With the above codecs, the device can play video files with the following extensions: AVI, MP4, MKV, MOV, WMV, MPG, PS, TS, VOB, FLV, RM, RMVB, ASF, 3GP
Are you well within these requirements? A PC or laptop can usually go way past this.
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One of the files is 720p avc1 dts at 6425 Mbps, and 4.38 gb. I'll have to check the other files when I get home. But that's not too high quality is it?
No, but if these are Animes the chance is high that they are encoded with "to many" b-frames.
The Archos allows [email protected] most new HD Animes are encoded as [email protected] which has way to many B-Frames for the small buffer on the DSP.
I think you are pushing it on the bit rate. I have tried encoding at various bit rates and quite frankly, encoding at 2 Mbps is good enough visually on an A101. I suggest Handbrake to re-encode down to 2 - 4 Mbps.
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One of the files is 720p avc1 dts at 6425 Mbps, and 4.38 gb. I'll have to check the other files when I get home. But that's not too high quality is it?
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I agree, but we shouldn't have to, ya know!?!
You read my answer?
And if grandma had wheels she'd be a streetcar.
Handbrake is my friend.
Bye.
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I agree, but we shouldn't have to, ya know!?!
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Yes yes, I did. BUT...
And wasn't the new firmware supposed to make these higher profile files play better??
wish in one hand....
No.
The decoding of highbitrate files within the specs is better now.
"One of the files is 720p avc1 dts at 6425 Mbps, and 4.38 gb."
avc1 == H.264 and if you look into the specs, there it says -> H.264 HD ([email protected] up to 720p, 30 [email protected])
So you are allready above what the DSP ( the VideoCoProcessor in the Chip ) can handle.
And then normally these type of files have variable bitrate and can go up to 20MBit.
And if then these files have more then the allowed 5 B-Frames the dsp just pukes.
So did anything ever come of this?
I'm having the same issue with the latest firmware (2.3.20).
Being able to increase the buffer and waiting a few minutes before watching something would be a whole lot better than copying the entire thing or just sticking to SD.
Hi guys long time lurker. I have a few roms under my belt on this Droid X, a couple of nook tablets, and my Galaxy Tab P3113 (Stock JB Rooted).
Anyway this old DX is long in the tooth and my VZW contract is up so like the thread below Im repurposing it. I already have a few emulators and video streamers installed but Im really into music so I have my whole collection ripped to apple lossless. I stream it around my house through wifi-N and Logitech Music Server s/w with Squeezebox hardware. I found a paid app on Google Play called Squeeze Player that turns your android device into a hardware player that can stream and serve lossless music. You can then use the offical Logitech Squeezebox Remote app to control it from a tablet, your new phone, or your computer.
The retired DX is perfect for this but has no usb host or OTG functionality so USB out is a no go. It does have an HDMI output that is locked down by Verzon but can be unlocked with Root access and a paid app called RealHDMI. It outputs 720p video through a micro hdmi port. I dont know what kind of sound quality it outputs but I bet its being resampled to 16 bit 48khz. As a test I hooked it up to my TVs HDMI input and streamed some Apple Lossless files from my laptop. Squeezeplayer transcodes ALAC to FLAC, which the player then outputs through RealHDMI to the TV.
At the moment Im broke but I don know of an audiophile/better than your average DAC that accepts 2 HDMI signals and outputs analog or HDMI. It has variable sampling rates and is designed and manufactured in California. Its the HRT HDMI streamer. Anyone with deeper pockets care to take this experiment further feel free to post here.
I have
PC-->WIF-->DX-->RealHDMI app-->TV/Stereo/DAC?
Im going to write to the developer of Real HDMI to see if he can add something to his app to keep the HDMI output native to the stream or file. Less conversions= better sound.
Peace.
I am not rooted and cannot because some of my apps require non-root (DirecTv) which makes me sad.
I just want to watch movies on my tablet. I have Nexus Media Importer (NMI) and I can see my Western Digital 1TB portable HD (formatted NTFS). And I can sort of play the movies on the drive using NMI & MX Player. I say "sort of" because some time after starting the movie there's stuttering and freezes. The Hard drive is model WDBZFP0010BBK - 05 which is actually a USB 3.0 drive, but works fine with just USB 2.0 cables. I've got it hooked up to my computer right now with just a micro USB cable and no other power.
Most of my movies are MKV, but some are MP4 and AVI. So far I haven't been able to play any of them. Some of them are upwards of 8GB, but some are only like 750MB. Again, nothing plays all the way through. They all start off like all is well, but eventually, pauses, stutters, hiccups, etc.
I have AVS converter and I could convert them to some other format, if that seemed like it would help.
Any suggestions? Is is my hard drive? Cables? Media format? Sunspots?