MR1 to DCD switch and internet sharing ? - Mogul, XV6800 General

I installed the MR1 update a few weeks ago hoping to have better performance, signal, edvo, and to be able to use vz navigator. I learned a few things. First VZ navigator was not bad but it does have a monthly charge and is reliant on data. I really didn't think about tomtom but I decided to purchase the software when I read about it on here. I like the internet sharing with the higher speeds but once again a monthly charge. I now know that with DCD I can access my GPS better with tomtom and I can use internet sharing without the additional cost. However I do have a couple of questions.
Will I see better performance with DCD?
Will I get the same speeds with internet sharing? Currently I am getting 700 tp 1000 Kbps tethered using verizon connection manager. I want to try the wifi router using the phone and I think it will connect better without all the verizon hassle. Any Ideas?

Maybe some others can add on the data speed....my point of view I was stock (before the MR1) and being a tech a custom rom is always better than stock and DCD rom was. Just like WinXP is overloaded with stuff you do not need so was the OEM rom for the 6800...
In all areas for me the performance is better than OEM...I travel with my company so the GPS tt7 is great thx to two members here, data rates, the ICS to my laptop in the airport is excellent, etc...as well as other stuff. I have a verizon PC cell card and I found that the ICS speed from my device is just as good and better at times...
my two cents...

Ok, thanks what about changing the PRI. I have read that you only had to flash to the new rom amd leave the radio and PRI in place and use agps. any thoughts?

rt1231 said:
Ok, thanks what about changing the PRI. I have read that you only had to flash to the new rom amd leave the radio and PRI in place and use agps. any thoughts?
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Some verizon users did change the pri I have not. I did change to the latest radio rom and all works excellent

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Wireless Radio range

Hi all. Sorry to start another thread about wifi on the Universal, but there seems to be no resolution in any of the others;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322054
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292210
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321872
... and these are just the recent ones. It seems there are a lot of us having problems with wireless range/reception. I think the basic questions we're asking are:
1. Is it a problem with the router/ap or the phone?
2. If it's the phone, can it be resolved with a software fix?
3. If it's the phone, is it another problem in the vein of SD cards (some work, some don't, depends on your phone)?
4. Do any of the more experienced members have these issues, and if so, what did they do to overcome/circumvent them?
I know i'm asking a lot here, but I think we would be grateful of even a sticky thread saying "There's nothing you can do about poor WiFi range" - at least then we'd know.
Many thanks in advance,
Gurney Man
Okay - might be onto something...
As stated in another thread, I just installed Radio 1.18 to see if that'd help. Uni said I had a Wireless connection to my network as I was rebooting it... i'm in the other room, so that's promising. However, I now get a nice SDDaemon error on boot...
More on this exciting story as it happens folks.
*edit*
Next on the list - ActiveSync has decided it doesn't like the phone now. No contacts sync-ing... Ugh.
I think it becuase if speed
i checked the AP(router) when the ppc(universal)connects to it,and i realized that it connects only with 11mbps speed even when the signal is low but with laptop i can connect with other speed like 5 2 1 mbps i think if we could configure universal to connect with 1 mbps we can get the most range. does someone knows how to set the speed to 1 mbps?
Radio upgrade doesn't seem to have helped.
It's an idea at least. Could we not change the connection settings on the router itself? Probably a daft question, as I imagine we've tried the Universal at other APs and still got poor reception.
Continuing my voyage of discovery, after upgrading to Radio 1.18, my comm's manager doesn't work properly, and wireless still doesn't work very well. Should I try an earlier Radio version (1.15) before I put all of my contacts n' settings back on the device?
Regards
Gurney Man
My friend have a nokia N80 and I did some tests, some time ago.
The reception is better. for example universal couldn't connect to wireless AP and N80 it's able to surf on Internet. At the same distance.
What I remener is that the N80 was able to connect at slow perfermormance , connected at 1Mbps and Universal was 11Mbps or nothing...
As you now slow performance is better distance... But I can't tell this to my universal , it always try to get higher performance and not higher distance...
do you know any solution to get connected with 1 Mbps?
Louder!
lol - still don't think we'll get any help. I assume now that there's no fix to this issue. The senior members here jump all over solveable problems - they haven't even corrected our grammar
Regards
Success!
okay, so this is probably I couldn't connect. All I had to do was change the settings on the router to only use wireless B, and I got reception. I felt ballsy after that, so played with the channel settings too, and guess what - changing the channel gave me even better reception. I would recommend any of you guys having the same problems to tinker with your router settings - if you don't have a 'puter wired to the router be careful, you might end up having to hard reset it, but otherwise go for it!
... now to reflash everything and get all the settings back... and get a better browser.
Regards
and then...
when I re-flashed, I assumed radio 1.18 was the cause of the issues I was having, aside from the wifi. Re-flashed to 1.15... no wireless. Going back to 1.18 again. Sheesh.
is 1.18 better than 1.15 in wifi?
I think so...
I seem to get an extra couple of metres with 1.18 - still not exactly the free roaming wireless I was hoping for, but better than just putting the device next to the router to get a weather update for Spb and nothing else.
Very Strange. Mine work well
Radio 1.18. WM6 2.02.02
2 walls (30 cm). No poblem. I've not encoured such problem. (thanks god). In open space, I've got even 50 meters reception (from hotels). So, I'm kind of an alien here no?
Regards,
Cristian Nica
i thought 1.18 was weeker....
nlcluigi , did you always have that good reception, or did something fix it?

HTC Touch Vogue and GPS

Hello, just need something things cleared up, I have unlocked my phone by cooking custom rom and enabling GPS capabilities for this phone. I have spent a week or so learning how to mod different things like SPB, S2U2, icontacts, etc.... I traveled to Montreal from Toronto using the GPS pay services, $8 a month, which is reasonable, but I was wondering if it possible to use the GPS capabilities for free. I know when you go buy a GPS unit, you dont have to pay for the service, only if you want to update your maps. Is there some registry hack or software that will enable this for free. Please let me know and point me in the right direction if possible, thanks everyone.
gps free with unlimited date plan
if you have an unlimited data plan ,(im with telus),like if you wanto get internet ,tv or anything else. your gps connection gona be free. for the htc touch vogue with the news telus rom its so easy to get gps working with a simple modification with Qpst and a registry hack.
HTC Mogul
DCD 3.2.2 RADIO 3.42.30
gps working-ip phone- wifi and bluetooth internet router working to
ive download almost 5gig each month and no cost for that
27.85 meg at boot and 23.75 with 6-8 program like google map running
HTC Vogue
New telus radio rom wm6.1
Gps working with registry hack and qpst modification
ip phone and bluetooth router for internet working ( no wifi enabled)
this phone just have so much memory that everything working stable with so less hacking on it
HTC Libra
New telus radio rom wm6.1
ip-phone with internet by bluetooth pan and diamond tv working by bluetooth
****ing smartphone so hard to hack or build a kitchen for it
Original poster was asking whether it was free to acquire GPS through satellite rather than through a data connection.
I have an Elf so I don't know the answer, but the Vogue has a GPS chip in it so I'm assuming it can communicate with satellites. If you have the newer ROMs then it should have GPS enabled in the operating system.
guig54 said:
if you have an unlimited data plan ,(im with telus),like if you wanto get internet ,tv or anything else. your gps connection gona be free. for the htc touch vogue with the news telus rom its so easy to get gps working with a simple modification with Qpst and a registry hack.
HTC Mogul
DCD 3.2.2 RADIO 3.42.30
gps working-ip phone- wifi and bluetooth internet router working to
ive download almost 5gig each month and no cost for that
27.85 meg at boot and 23.75 with 6-8 program like google map running
HTC Vogue
New telus radio rom wm6.1
Gps working with registry hack and qpst modification
ip phone and bluetooth router for internet working ( no wifi enabled)
this phone just have so much memory that everything working stable with so less hacking on it
HTC Libra
New telus radio rom wm6.1
ip-phone with internet by bluetooth pan and diamond tv working by bluetooth
****ing smartphone so hard to hack or build a kitchen for it
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did you know that your phone doesnt communicate with satellite gps but its making a triangular equation with his cellular satellite. I'm working on getting a gps lock without having any contract. And getting a free internet connection at the same time if youre able to get a gps lock you have internet acces because they came from the same source.
Thanks
Hey guys thanks alot for your replies, I think I have a better grasp on what you all are saying. So, I have enabled the GPS capabilities on my phone through the ROM. Now I have a icon in programs menu that says GPSNav. When I go to that application it gives me 2 options, 3.50 a day and 8.00 a month. From what I understand GPS on these phones are done through a data connection meaning the internet, not through locking onto an actual satellite like those dedicated GPS devices. I do have an unlimited data plan right now. So, is it because I'm running this particular program that I have to pay? Or is there another program I can either use through one time purchase or I can find on the net somewhere that I can install and get GPS for free through using my unlimited data plan (triangulation). If there is an app out there, whats the name? Thank again!
guig54 said:
did you know that your phone doesnt communicate with satellite gps but its making a triangular equation with his cellular satellite. I'm working on getting a gps lock without having any contract. And getting a free internet connection at the same time if youre able to get a gps lock you have internet acces because they came from the same source.
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Hmm... I thought the GPS capability of these newer phones was equivalent to the functionality of using separate Bluetooth GPS receiver. Thus no need to buy the receiver anymore.
Correct me if I am wrong, because this was one of my reasons for wanting to buy a Touch Diamond or the Touch 3G.
gps without any plan
i dont know for the touch diamond or the touch 3g because the telus interface is cdma not gsm. but if you want to get an gps connection without being charged for it. its shure that if you have to open an app that charged you for using the gps its because first- that you've not flash a custom rom or simply with the new htc rom wm6.1 you can just modify your Qpst and with a little registry hack you can get a fully free of charged gps using. but you will need to install a gps sorftware that already have all the map in it. or if you have and unlimited data plan get google map and youll never be charged for using the gps chipset enabled.
For now I've almost get a gps lock with my HTC libra without any plan at all, its seeking for satellite but not able to lock on 1. im trying to get a pass trough the cellular tower to get a data unlimited to for free with cloning and some little other hack. ill see if its working.
gps and internet working without any plan.... to much
the gps connection working with a 8 second locking time and 10 gps satellite locking on. with the new rom wm6.1 from telus i've found that there is many thing that make it so funny and easy to hack and make everything working. now i've found how to make the internet connection working.
google maps working
9-10 gps satellites lock on
8 second delay for locking satellite
satellite view working because of the internet hack ..... so hot
internet
download bitrate of 1200 kbps
Now the question is how long all this will stay working.
all of this working because off all the time i've put on this. reading and trying modification in registry, modification in the epst with ##778 and the getspc, changing values in qpst for enabling the gps chipset and dont forgot to change your spc if you dont want telus to get in and see what you have done in it. the key to get all off this working will stay secret for a week minimum because ill see if after a week everything will stay alive maybe ill tell somebody who will pay for it. but after making the impossible-possible the secret key to that is.....lol
guig54 said:
all of this working because off all the time i've put on this. reading and trying modification in registry, modification in the epst with ##778 and the getspc, changing values in qpst for enabling the gps chipset and dont forgot to change your spc if you dont want telus to get in and see what you have done in it. the key to get all off this working will stay secret for a week minimum because ill see if after a week everything will stay alive maybe ill tell somebody who will pay for it. but after making the impossible-possible the secret key to that is.....lol
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I'm not fully understanding what you're saying. But... to help others out you are making them pay for it? On this site?
My initial point about the GPS chip was not to imply CDMA or GSM. It should have nothing to do with either. I'm talking about direct satellite tracking (like with a bluetooth receiver) not tracking through cellular network. Maybe someone else can enlighten us on this.
im not telling to ask other to pay for my help but for the key to acces the network without any data plan and get full free access to gps. about your idea to get an outside gps connect with your device, for me its an crazy idea because youre gona pay for a gps device that is already in your htc device and that you can get full use of it without being charged for it.
the way i've found to connect to the network is pretty easy after all but that take me so much hours to found this hack that im not gona give it to a nobody(french term)
when youre talking about direct satellite its your choice but about me im not working on that because ive no interest in that.
Now next step is to get a free access to the cellular tower and get access to make phone call without having a plan with a company
guig54 said:
about your idea to get an outside gps connect with your device, for me its an crazy idea because youre gona pay for a gps device that is already in your htc device and that you can get full use of it without being charged for it.
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My Elfin doesn't have a GPS device built in. that is why I have to use Bluetooth to connect to my separate GPS receiver. That is what most people do.
2nd day off free internet access
day 2, the internet connection still alive.
-I think that yesterday about 3hrs after i got access they try to deconnect me . Because i've been deconnected and they send me and msg that ive not permission to acces the network. but after soft-reset everything get back on and nothing else apen after that everything going good.
-Now can somebody now if its possible to make a roundup connections with cell tower. is it possible to activate the option of making the request activation after the connection begin like the 10 min registry hack activation delay for the btpan in dcd rom
sorry for my poor english im from Quebec, Canada.
mabe if something possible I'll be interested in develloping and creating a kind off ghost phone project with the help off every one who know something about that
thanks
I have an Elfin myself, so I don't know how the Vogue works...
But from what I've read, the Vogue has a built-in GPS chip. This is not to be confused with aGPS (Assisted GPS), which uses the cell towers to triangulate your position; it's not as accurate as true GPS but it gives you a good idea. I'm not sure if aGPS costs you money, I would assume it does as it needs to use the internet (Google maps uses an aGPS style positioning).
Where as true GPS uses a chip to pick up on the 24 GPS satellites or so, orbiting the earth right now. The chip is designed to get a satellite lock, and the satellites help triangulate your position to a more accurate position. Well, more satellites/cell towers = better accuracy. Therfore consider 24 satellites, or 3 or 4 cell towers. Obviously true GPS works better.
So from what I understand, you just unlock the GPS (which I believe is true GPS), then I would download Garmin XT for windows mobile and use that. You will have to download or buy the map sets, load those onto an SD card in your phone. Then you can use Garmin XT (with pre-installed maps), combined with the internal GPS chip - it should work just fine, and will not use the internet.
I have been using Garmin XT on my Elfin, with a bluetooth GPS and it works great. I have never used a data plan either.
Now, I just wonder what chip the Vogue is using for it's GPS - it must be some kind of SiRF chip... Maybe someone can tell us, then we will know the exact type of GPS it uses.
Try out Garmin XT and let us know.
hey guys..
i have an HTC Vogue..
i was wondering..
if..
Google Maps does work without having a wifi connection?
its WM default ROM..
PS.
[i live in Central America]

Wifi is flakey at some APs

I have installed and uninstalled a number of firmware/mod combinations on my xv6800 in hopes to get the GPS working. I don't believe that's going to happen (saddly, I feel like there's a conspiracy out there to trick peeps like me into spending weeks on this problem without any positive outcome) so I'm currently focusing on what DOES work with this device.
One thing that's flakey is the wifi. At home I'm running WEP128. It connects sometimes, others it will not. When it does not automatically connect but sees it, it asks for the key each time. What's the deal with that? Entering my long a$$ key each time has made me memorize it, but it's still a serious PITA. I don't have the same issue at most other places - still using WEP128. Doesn't appear to have any issues connecting to open APs. Does have issues connecting to a friend's AP, i that it doesn't even SEE it as available any more, after the initial 3-4 connects.
Thoughts on why this could be happening? Not having the GPS makes me very angry, but then to not have reliable wifi practially makes the device pointless, as I have another phone, my own PED and an actual good camera... and a laptop.
thanks for any helpful thoughts.
Chris
Chris,
I'm assuming from your post that the "XV" indicates you have a Verizon Phone? If so you might look at this link pertaining to GPS
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/
I'm not sure what to tell you about the WiFi. Mine works fine...
iamchrismoran said:
I have installed and uninstalled a number of firmware/mod combinations on my xv6800 in hopes to get the GPS working. I don't believe that's going to happen (saddly, I feel like there's a conspiracy out there to trick peeps like me into spending weeks on this problem without any positive outcome) so I'm currently focusing on what DOES work with this device.
One thing that's flakey is the wifi. At home I'm running WEP128. It connects sometimes, others it will not. When it does not automatically connect but sees it, it asks for the key each time. What's the deal with that? Entering my long a$$ key each time has made me memorize it, but it's still a serious PITA. I don't have the same issue at most other places - still using WEP128. Doesn't appear to have any issues connecting to open APs. Does have issues connecting to a friend's AP, i that it doesn't even SEE it as available any more, after the initial 3-4 connects.
Thoughts on why this could be happening? Not having the GPS makes me very angry, but then to not have reliable wifi practially makes the device pointless, as I have another phone, my own PED and an actual good camera... and a laptop.
thanks for any helpful thoughts.
Chris
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I have the verizon Titan and just use mac filtering on my wireless router. The encryption slows it down to much for me and basically need the same encryption scheme on both sides to get it to work properly. I don't do anything that it needs to be encrypted and the mac filtering keeps the neighbors out as well.
timm9 said:
Chris,
I'm assuming from your post that the "XV" indicates you have a Verizon Phone? If so you might look at this link pertaining to GPS
http://www.phonenews.com/how-to-add-gps-to-htc-mogul-xv6800-p4000-titan-2663/
I'm not sure what to tell you about the WiFi. Mine works fine...
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Wow, of all the tuts and instructions I've tried and read, that one has never crossed my screen - and I have tried at least 4-5 different ones. The phone's already unlocked and has a custom rom on it. I didn't get an impression either way if this method will reset the device/settings/files/etc in it again. I guess I could try it out. Thanks.
I'm getting to the point of just wanting to pay someone to get teh GPS working on it.
The Wifi issue is just weird and flakey. No rhyme or reason I can see.
Chris
jambrose said:
I have the verizon Titan and just use mac filtering on my wireless router. The encryption slows it down to much for me and basically need the same encryption scheme on both sides to get it to work properly. I don't do anything that it needs to be encrypted and the mac filtering keeps the neighbors out as well.
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I think of doing that often... but well... I don't have a but. WEP is hackable, but feels secure enough , considering I have a bunch of secure APs in my neighborhood... some obscurity helps as well.
I know that sometimes if I restart my AP (linksys wrt54g) the xv6800 will just find it and connect on it's own.
Chris
There is absolutely no reason why gps should not work on your device. In fact in this forum we really don't even discuss it too much anymore because it's really just an understood thing to be working. If you are on verizon use the latest alltel radio 3.42.xx I can't remember exactly, load dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4 and start from there. Wifi on these roms have power saving features make sure if you are using wifi that you have strength up to full. Also, all the moguls that I have had, DO NOT COUNT ON THEM AUTOMATICALLY FINDING ACCESS POINTS, simply go to start->settings->connections "view all available access points" and select the one you want to use. I have heard cases of gps having trouble locking if wifi is on so make sure the switch is off and vise versa. Do the verizon qpst and registry settings change. On verizon you should have a lock within 30 seconds everytime if you are within the continental US. Good luck and take your time.
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There is absolutely no reason why gps should not work on your device. In fact in this forum we really don't even discuss it too much anymore because it's really just an understood thing to be working.
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Haha... yeah, that's what's so frustrating. So many people getting it to work and me not. I'm no dolt. I follow directions quite well.
If you are on verizon use the latest alltel radio 3.42.xx I can't remember exactly, load dcd's 3.2.6 or 3.3.4 and start from there. Wifi on these roms have power saving features make sure if you are using wifi that you have strength up to full. Also, all the moguls that I have had, DO NOT COUNT ON THEM AUTOMATICALLY FINDING ACCESS POINTS, simply go to start->settings->connections "view all available access points" and select the
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I have 3.42.something new within the last two months. My first attempt was with the DCD. Nada.
As for finding available access points, at my friend's place, it just shows it listed as unavailable. At home, it will SEE it and even attempt to connect, but often fails, except for those random times when it will connect.
one you want to use. I have heard cases of gps having trouble locking if wifi is on so make sure the switch is off and vise versa. Do the verizon qpst and registry settings change. On verizon you should have a lock within 30 seconds everytime if you are within the continental US. Good luck and take your time.
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Hm... will it maintain the lock with the wifi turned back on afterward? The whole point is to be able to use gmaps with the GPS. I can install other s/w that has it's own maps as well, bypassing the need for the wifi, but for starters, getting GPS working first is important.
It's a verizon phone, but I don't have service turned on yet. I'm not going to switch my number over until I'm happy with how it's set up. I do not intend on using a data plan - too expensive, so wifi when in range and other gps s/w when I'm not will be used.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I have taken some serious time with this. The nice thing is that I don't have to rush, so I've tried MANY different things from the forums and even the PPCgeeks IRC channel. If I practice any more patience, I'll be sleeping.
Chris
iamchrismoran said:
Wow, of all the tuts and instructions I've tried and read, that one has never crossed my screen - and I have tried at least 4-5 different ones. The phone's already unlocked and has a custom rom on it. I didn't get an impression either way if this method will reset the device/settings/files/etc in it again. I guess I could try it out. Thanks.
I'm getting to the point of just wanting to pay someone to get teh GPS working on it.
The Wifi issue is just weird and flakey. No rhyme or reason I can see.
Chris
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That phonenews article was VERY helpful in getting me started, but:
It is ancient. Those old roms have problem. Use the newest DCD roms and radios found here. (thanks DCD and everyone)
ALSO, on the GPS.
If you EVER, EVER, installed the new Verizon MR1 upgrade, the GPS is locked. No worky no more..... But, simply find the older Verizon rom, it can be found. Downgrade to it and run it. Then go straight to the DCD rom/radio.
worwig said:
That phonenews article was VERY helpful in getting me started, but:
It is ancient. Those old roms have problem. Use the newest DCD roms and radios found here. (thanks DCD and everyone)
ALSO, on the GPS.
If you EVER, EVER, installed the new Verizon MR1 upgrade, the GPS is locked. No worky no more..... But, simply find the older Verizon rom, it can be found. Downgrade to it and run it. Then go straight to the DCD rom/radio.
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I did try the MR1 upgrade based aGPS hack, but I then realized that aGPS only matters if you've got a working GPS at all. Anyway, I then downgraded again and started over from scratch. I got my phone in September and did my series of hacks/upgrades/unlocks over the course of two weeks or nightly tries and retries. It's nice to hear someone say it WILL work, but Murphy's Law is working overtime with me on this one.
It is my understanding that if you don't have internet access than gps will not just not work on mogul. The gps one chip I believe is strictly an AGPS chip and cannot lock without using agps. However I guess some people have done it and use it, although even if you get it to work the lock will take forever. The mogul really needs that emphemeris data from the north american gps servers to function correctly. I didn't realize these were your terms.
Sweeny Russ said:
It is my understanding that if you don't have internet access than gps will not just not work on mogul. The gps one chip I believe is strictly an AGPS chip and cannot lock without using agps. However I guess some people have done it and use it, although even if you get it to work the lock will take forever. The mogul really needs that emphemeris data from the north american gps servers to function correctly. I didn't realize these were your terms.
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I've never seen it written anywhere that one would be required to have a data connection with the service provider to get a GPS lock. Seems ridiculous to me. If I wanted to pay for a data connection, then why the heck not just pay for the VZ Navigator access??
I've never seen aGPS as a requirement either. If all the tuts were about aGPS, I'd see that having that data connection was important. Boy, I sure could use a definitive on this. If I KNOW for fact that GPS just doesn't work without a data connection, I'd have to suck it up and get an external bluetooth GPS device if I care enough. I have believed however all along that the whole point was to access GPS hardware without incurring data charges.
thanks,
Chris
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47602
its not the mogul, but same idea.
iamchrismoran said:
I did try the MR1 upgrade based aGPS hack, but I then realized that aGPS only matters if you've got a working GPS at all. Anyway, I then downgraded again and started over from scratch. I got my phone in September and did my series of hacks/upgrades/unlocks over the course of two weeks or nightly tries and retries. It's nice to hear someone say it WILL work, but Murphy's Law is working overtime with me on this one.
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Also, not trying to undermind you, but why did you aquire the mogul if you weren't planning on using internet access? I mean you loose live search, google maps, pic and video messaging, skyfire, ie, youtube, and pretty much everything that makes a mogul a mogul. If you bought it for the soul purpose of using as a gps device you definitely bought the wrong device.
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Also, not trying to undermind you, but why did you aquire the mogul if you weren't planning on using internet access? I mean you loose live search, google maps, pic and video messaging, skyfire, ie, youtube, and pretty much everything that makes a mogul a mogul. If you bought it for the soul purpose of using as a gps device you definitely bought the wrong device.
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TOTALLY reasonable question.
I will use the phone when I have it set how I like it.
I got it so I could have a reasonably convenient way to freely check my email and surf when in wifi range without needing to lug my laptop around with me. I got a good price on it, much cheaper than an actual laptop.
Nice sized screen for when I want to actually watch a ripped movie or TV show and the option to install other software on a whim to have with me is just great. I got a ppc that can be a phone essentially. I'm not a phone person, too cheap to pay for a text plan, but wifi is key. The ability to open this phone up for GPS use was a major factor in picking it from lots of research before diving in.

I'm scared to move to a new rom, because im dependant on wifi tethering

Can someone give me a recomendation one which rom to download where internet sharing through usb will work.. straight away from flashing?
If there aren't any.. how about a rom version that'll have wifi tethering working straight out of the box?
I want to flash a new rom because Im using DC and I seem to be dependant on an un updated version of wifi tether and overclocking/underclocking seems buggy on this version.
I'd like to be able to use the internet through some means without tethering over heating my phone( and underclocking seems the solution) but at the same time I seem to be only able to get a maximum of 40kbps as is
So I'm in the market... I figure internet sharing through usb might be a better solution...
Any comments on how fast it works or if it heats up the phone like wifi and drains the battery faster then it charges it???
On a seperate note.. does wifi tethering mess up the initialization of the battery so that it seems like it has less life or says full when its not.. or have I just been really putting the beating on it?
PDANet works without even needing to root.
downloading now... Although I did notice a comment that says doesn't work on gnu/linux I will find out.
You can always download a new ROM directly off your phone.. I usually do it so I don't have to transfer it. I e-mail myself the link, go to it on my phone, download, move it to root, nandroid backup, wipe, flash, tah dah.
very good point
http://www.humans-enabled.com/2009/12/how-to-tether-your-verizon-droid-as.html
I followed these instructions in the video at the bottom...
It works...as long as my phones screen is on.. and then again it wants to go ridiculously slow at times and act worse than dialup...
I've noticed the same thing even through the tethering... is the sprint network extremely bogged down at the moment or is it just me???
Or let me guess... my bill was due yesterday and they are screwing with my data when I need the net to make the money to pay the bill
Aloysius 2.1 is my favorite, I've tried a lot of the others, it seems fastest and wifi tether works great
I flashed an Old DamageControl Rom to get a different PRI, then I flashed back to RegawMOD 2.1t which is my daily ROM, and now I don't even need wifi tethering, just connect to PC via USB, select internet sharing, and away I go! Best method for highest speeds.
jerry43812 said:
I flashed an Old DamageControl Rom to get a different PRI, then I flashed back to RegawMOD 2.1t which is my daily ROM, and now I don't even need wifi tethering, just connect to PC via USB, select internet sharing, and away I go! Best method for highest speeds.
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Are you talking about the one with the verizon PRI
Edit. When I replied to this, the site was still the old one and once I was done it looked completely different,

[Q] 3.14 ROM Update and WiFi Tethering: Deliberate Sabotage by T-Mobile??

I've been looking at the T-Mobile official support forum on their website, and seeing quite a few people with problems running WiFi (or not being able to get it going again) and WiFi tethering after updating to the new 3.14 ROM.
Is it a coincidence that T-Mobile is announcing a new Tethering Plan just after this update? Or did T-Mobile deliberately "kill" WiFi tethering to force users to buy the new Tethering plan?
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I've been looking at the T-Mobile official support forum on their website, and seeing quite a few people with problems running WiFi (or not being able to get it going again) and WiFi tethering after updating to the new 3.14 ROM.
Is it a coincidence that T-Mobile is announcing a new Tethering Plan just after this update? Or did T-Mobile deliberately "kill" WiFi tethering to force users to buy the new Tethering plan?
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Wifi tether was never on the HD2 to begin with, so nobody will know if it was a coincidence or not.
Indeed, WiFi tethering is something that has to be added by the end user, so it was never officially sanctioned by T-Mobile to begin with...but as far as intentionally screwing it up, I do not think T-Mobile would do such a thing. I mean comeon, they aren't Apple afterall. I personally chalk it up to a poor WiFi driver stack provided in the new ROM. Installing a new radio MAY help, but it's unlikely.
Here's my theory:
It seems to me that the 3.14 ROM has a feature to turn off or put your data connection in standby mode, (same deal with the wifi), when the device is idle... Which makes sense. It also turns off your data connection if you are connected to wifi. Still makes sense. SO if you are using your phone as a wifi router, that means you are probably on your other device and not on your HD2 and it's idle, so it shuts it down.
Most likely it was implemented to save battery life as well as save wasted network data.
You can't really call it sabotage when this device didn't come with a wifi router program in the first place. Not even an oversight by the developers. Although I admittedly did feel a little cheated when I realized that the US HD2 didn't come with the wifi hot spot. It was one of the features that was highlighted by HTC's marketing team for the HD2. It was also one of the main reasons that I wanted the phone, besides the fact that the screen was huge and it looked awesome. Of course once I started nerding out on it I quickly found that I could just install a cab.
If my theory is correct, maybe someone will come up with a work around. If not, then those of you who depend on the wifi tethering and want a stock ROM, should install Shehrams stock 2.13 ROM with the 2.10 touch drivers. It's pretty much flawless with the exception of a few minor known 2.13 issues. There aren't many. The biggest one for me was the touch sensitivity, which this ROM fixes. With the 2.10 touch drivers 2.13 is pretty great.
Obviously you do need to have HSPL to flash the ROM, but you can always go back to stock by flashing a stock ROM from a microSD card.
I just got around to testing this and i've been connected to my HD2 Wifi Router for over an hour on the web and it hasn't disconnected once... Which program are you using? Also my Wifi signal is great.
ditto on the wrong program, tom codon still works for me.
mr8820 said:
ditto on the wrong program, tom codon still works for me.
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Yep. Tom Codon for pres.
I really don't see the need for wi-fi tethering. What is its advantage over Bluetooth or USB tethering?
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I really don't see the need for wi-fi tethering. What is its advantage over Bluetooth or USB tethering?
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BT is sssssssssslllllllloooooooowwwww compared to wifi tethering and USB tethering
the main advantage over USB tethering is no cable required. The disadvantage is sucking the life right out of your phone's battery
anhyeuemmaimai said:
BT is sssssssssslllllllloooooooowwwww compared to wifi tethering and USB tethering
the main advantage over USB tethering is no cable required. The disadvantage is sucking the life right out of your phone's battery
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Has anyone compared WiFi VS USB tether speeds? I would think USB would be faster.

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