Database Users

Needed Programs?

Hey I'm new to this forum (as shown in my post count).
What programs do you use on your Hermes?
Small problems I would like to fix are:
-A little speed boost. I feel like it lags behind sometimes
-Programmable sms tones. I dont just want to use those 1-2 second long sounds.
-A good free multi-chat program. For example, AIM, ICQ, GoogleTalk, Msn, Yahoo... all at the same time. Personally I found AgileMessenger to be quite nice, but it costs 45 bucks to buy... i may resort to that though.
Actually onw last thing i would like and wondering if it is even possible, probably only by some awesome hacker. I want a program that gives me the passkeys of locked wifi networks, are there any of those available?
I have more questions about t-mobile but ill start a different thread.

This site is a support forum for xda enthusiasts. using this site, you will find lots of tweaks for your phone, OS upgrades, fixes, etc. but we do not condon anything illegal here. That means even if some hacker finds a way how to do something that is illegal, the moderators will immediately delete it. That also applys for cracked programs, etc. Im not accusing you of anything, but since you are new here I just wanted to give you a quik breifing on what we are and are not about.
Also, before you post any questions, or screw up your phone, make sure you do lots of reading and searching (search bar at top right), there is also a google search tool for this site in the other section.
Welcome and good luck

peezy said:
This site is a support forum for xda enthusiasts. using this site, you will find lots of tweaks for your phone, OS upgrades, fixes, etc. but we do not condon anything illegal here. That means even if some hacker finds a way how to do something that is illegal, the moderators will immediately delete it. That also applys for cracked programs, etc. Im not accusing you of anything, but since you are new here I just wanted to give you a quik breifing on what we are and are not about.
Also, before you post any questions, or screw up your phone, make sure you do lots of reading and searching (search bar at top right), there is also a google search tool for this site in the other section.
Welcome and good luck
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ok then ty for letting me know. Seeing as how many programmers are on this site I though that non-legit might be fine here.
Thank you for the warning, Im not a computer noob, but new to the wm phone world. I'd be sure on reading up before installing anything.
Well then the same questions are still up... I never said I wouldnt pay for these programs but if the freeware is just as good, why not?

Please do not start new threads to request repeated information.
Thread closed.

Sms pocket cm styled

hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?

afarinella97 said:
hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?
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Yes, use search and don't post new threads.

What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
Well, just to give the benefit of the doubt, try VITO's SMS-Chat (not free). PocketCM is probably the slickest Threaded SMS that's FREE, so I'm sticking to it for my needs. However, many of VITO's iWindowsMobile programs seem to um... "draw inspiration" from tene's PocketCM suite, and thus, the iPhone. Check them out.
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@curious george
I have to give them the benefit of the doubt the first time I see it from them. As a beginner I was initially intimidated by the elitist behavior of some board members here.

Azimuth21 said:
What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
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Dude, no doubt. Look and your and I's join date versus the number of posts or threads we have started. Its amazing. Don't get me wrong I know I did it as a newb too but dang. It is getting out of hand. before long all of the worlds best devs will leave this site for lack of control!!!
FYI, giving them answers in these new repeat threads only goes to encourage the behaivor.

i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
even if this is a developer forum, which surely is True to sharing and creating ideas (or softwares) - no doubt, the notion Helping one another should never be disregarded..

ytsejam_ said:
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Partially true. The evil you are describing is a turn earn system. The reason why this site is getting so difficult search is because tollerance has allowed newbs to continue to post new threads with out any restraint and it spreads the answers to common or frequently asked questions everywhere. IMO what needs to happen is a requirement needs to be established for new threads to be started. That would solve it.

ytsejam_ said:
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.

ytsejam_ said:
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
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Hence why I explained SMS-Chat. There's no point if this thread turned into a discussion thread over the merits of searching, but I do know that there has been an absolute backlog of uninformed posts that could easily be searched. Often times, I even see posts stating "too many pages to read, so i'll ask this again..." or "i'm too lazy to read this whole thread, can anyone just give me a quick answer..." or "i'm new here. i want my phone to look like the iphone. i found some links, but i don't know what a cab is. this is getting annoying "
It's frustrating. Another example is the SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 Skin Collections thread. It states in the first post that the thread should just be for skins, yet I see way too many posts saying "Thanks" and not much else. I'm against flaming myself, but I'd just like to point out that afarinella97, the OP, has actually been a member of this forum for longer than I have.
Btw:
VITO SMS-Chat
Palm Threaded SMS
Birdsoft Extreme Text
Windows Mobile 6.1 Built-in Threading
Like I said, I stick with PocketCM. There have been requests for the developer to make the SMS standalone, but nothing's occurred yet. Have fun texting!

tguerena said:
Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.
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As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.

why not open a new section called 'Questions' for anyone with questions to post there? ... most likely they'll never get answered but at least they wont be posted over here !!!

hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye

afarinella97 said:
hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye
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hi you have to try vijay phone tools , Search that (on google ), I don't have just now in my hand ( I can find the cabor link but afeternoon)but I can say you it allows you to have sms models , vey easy use , I have unistalled it but it is very good work from vijay555 (moderator ere) and install pocket cm keyboard 0.13 for the SIP
I'm not Ok with those who flame noobs systematically , the search function is not easy here. For me I have a look on this forum to see if new subjects , and also I'm using google search and subscrbe to thread here
there are too many things for a new one here , it is really very great , so help them as you wanted to be helped in your beginning
Cheers to all

curious george said:
As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.
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As a matter of fact poophead, I do search and I search often and frequently. And yes I said poophead not because I'm a 3rd grader, but alas because you're a poophead. All I was trying to say is be nice, us "noobs" search more than you think.

As a recent newbie, I do feel obligated to say a few things here:
Things to do for newbies:
1) Read
2) Read
3) Read
I discovered the site (from a link on fatwallet) after I bought my tmobile wing last October. Ever since then I was doing a lot of reading (more than what I do with my major - my advisor absolutely hates that, and so does my wife too), and learned a lot about the roms, terminology, great apps, etc.
I do not discourage asking questions, but I do think as newbie the question should be asked INTELLIGENTLY, which comes from a person who has done the reading and given a lot of thought about it. Frankly, I think OP's question is one of those.
As for the rest of us (elite, non-newbie, etc), a question should be judged by the quality, but not by the question mark. OP's question, for example, he/she understand what he/she is after, but don't quite understand the details which is OK. Given a few hints then he/she can start searching for the real thing. Azimuth21 has given some examples of bad questions and those should definitely not tolerated.
In general the question should be asked at the appropriate place; either the thread that directly concerning the topic (like PointUI, pocketcm, S2U2, etc) or at the general section of this forum. After all, the general section is there for this purpose.

Wtf is wrong with people here?
The thread has become an off-topic ranting thread already.
Best approach for such questions would be to either not reply or answer it without ranting about not using search and go.
Eg.
Newbie:
"hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?"
Reply:
"Tene (the developer of PCM) did not provide a separate module of PCM for just SMS, in other words, it's not possible to get just the SMS feature of PCM. You can try looking for Vito SMS (commercial app) or upgrading to WM6.1 for the threaded SMS style. Good luck."
See how simple and peaceful that is? And you have provided all necessary information. Can't we all just get along?
Like a famous dev here once said: "There are no stupid questions, just offensive answers."

because people dont know HOW to search properly. when you click search at the top here you can use the forum search and type in sms and click ONLY search the thread titles. this GREATLY reduces the numbers of hits for the word sms which would be hundreds of threads. i just typed threaded sms into google and got a slew of good programs right on the first results page- iwindowsmobile, palm's, txtman, etc etc.
People honestly dont try because i bet everything i own there are at LEAST 10 similar threads of this exact same topic out there with the answers too. How many times can the same basic questions be asked and answered? This just dilutes the real content of this developing forum which is for new programs and hacks and such.
all threads like this end up doing is making even MORE search results confusing the next batch of noobs with even more results when trying to search.

Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/02/18/txtman-20.html

the0ne said:
Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
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Well, WM6.1 has exactly the same feature as a standard...
And doubling what Azimuth21 said, I'd rather stick with PocketCM.
And.. my penny for the discussion: exactly, as DaVince said - if you don't want to answer, do not.
I agree that all the searching difficulties arose from not keeping the forum clean, but now it is done, you can't reverse it.... searching for something so generic is almost impossible here.

Newbie
As a newbie myself I can say that at first it is not common sense navigating the forum. I found that just reading through the pages (new posts, hermesm6 etc.) and being patient some other ignorant sap had the same questions and concerns I had. Us newbies just need to be patient and enjoy the process or READING and not just come here to suck out what they need and not enjoy the forum. There are so many things of interest here and to just spend all this time looking up an sms app. Anyway, hope the newbie can flash, I had the same issue. for me it was a memory consumption issue with pocketcm. I like the 6.1 threaded sms due to its intergration. I would also suggest searching for threaded sms as this is what you are really looking for. I don't think you are looking for anything sms. Also when searching try to select show posts only this seems to work well for me. Enjoy the ride, Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaad!
Oh look, I'm a member now, WHOOPIE!!

SPB Mobile Skin (from Greatbal) HTC Touch Need Help

Hello everybody.
I want to make a skin by my own and tried to change the "perfect" skin from greatbal!
I want to change the icons on the front menu of SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.2!
I want to take bigger icons. Now my question. How can i realize it.
Where i can find these icons and is it possible the make the background of the icons visible?
Many Thx for helping!
Shawn

for you the same like for any other beginner, WHY DO YOU OPEN A THREAD and don´t ask Greatball or post it in the Mobileshell thread or read there how to make a Skin ?
Unbelievable: I have a question, i open a thread

Ok sorry i didnt know that is possible to write directly a PN!
I thought the problem must be posted in the board so that everybody could learn.
Shawn

bluemetalaxe said:
for you the same like for any other beginner, WHY DO YOU OPEN A THREAD and don´t ask Greatball or post it in the Mobileshell thread or read there how to make a Skin ?
Unbelievable: I have a question, i open a thread
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* Speechless * * Rolleyes *

bluemetalaxe said:
for you the same like for any other beginner, WHY DO YOU OPEN A THREAD and don´t ask Greatball or post it in the Mobileshell thread or read there how to make a Skin ?
Unbelievable: I have a question, i open a thread
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Maybe because his thread has received four/five replies already (even if they are all utterly useless). I always post in the existing threads and rarely ever receive replies and there should be no reason why people can't create threads here.. Forums simply work like that.. Cluttered maybe, but there is no help board on these forums so don't blame members who ask for help in new threads.
The amount of time I've seen people complain about making new threads or asking questions makes me think.. If only instead of complaining and flaming you would actually help them then maybe the users wouldn't need so much help.
Sorry OP for side tracking your thread.
here are some threads you can read on customising SPB Mobile Shell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354111
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424933
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427178

You have to edit the qa_status.dat, define your graphics: main image and the corresponding mask (which gives transparency effect). Try editing my qa_status.dat file and see corresponding result as a practice.
good luck.

Problem is that there are some many new users that are too lazy to search or to read a thread, there are so many threads about how to customize MS and they dont even know what a PM is. Sorry, I can´t and will never understand such people and its really not helpfull for us all on such a big side if every user makes it this way.

@greatbal
Thanks for helping but i still know the Files which i have to prepare to take my wished effect.
But thanks that u take a look at my question and did not make such a trouble if someone needs help.
I cant understand that it is so terrible posting a question if other threads are so big and not compact that it is hard for a newbie to find a special thing.
But its Ok. In future i will try to contact Greatbal with PN and you will see other Newbie will have the same problem and they will also open threads.

PC outlook2003/7 email auto-complete entries on pocket pc

i depend too much on the email auto complete on my pc. is there a way to transfer the autocomplete to my pocket pc. adding eveybody to contacts is stupid and not practical
if there is no easy way to do that, then i believe its a good idea for someone to develop an application to do that.

no, as outlook 2003/2007 rely on an outlook.nk2 file in your windows profile for the autocomplete addresses, essentially an outlook addresses cache, where as windows mobile references its autocomplete right from your contacts list, without a proprietary cache file.
from everything i have seen in Windows, the .nk2 file is not etiable, or readable in any editor, so the options of importing it into WM seems remote.

jeez... this is crazy.
STOP POSTING QUESTIONS HERE!
there's a whole dedicated section for these things!!!
it's admirable that people answer questions and want to help. but this is flooding the Dev&Hack section. stop answering here.

"jeez" !!!
are you really a jew
take it easy nir. i was hoping to get someone intrested in developing this tool as it can be really usuful for far too many people. if a mod thinks this is not good here he should transfer it elseware
two things
- my pocket pcs does auto complete for addresses that i have used before they dont have to be in contact
-there are tool that can edit the outlook.nk2 from NIRsoft(lol) http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/outlook_nk2_autocomplete.html
how hard can it be to simply add the email adresses from the nk2 to the word auto complete in the ppc

fatso485 said:
"jeez" !!!
are you really a jew
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Right......
Anyways, nir is right, this is something you should have posted in the Q&A section. Why is this a point you must argue???
I'm still trying to figure your problem. You don't feel like adding the contacts you email in your contacts list? Works fine for me!

i have over 1000 entries in my PC outlook autocomplete cache(as the nk2 tool shows)
i want to make use of these entries on my pocket pc. i always find myself in a position where i have wait untill im in the office to send an email because i dont have the address in my contacts. i really hate adding contacts that i will not constantly use as they tend to slow the system and make searching harder.
- i did not mean to disrespect nir of anything like that. not sure how you got this impression.

actually the software linked above can create a text file with all the entries. whats left it to feed this file to the ppc auto complete. anybody willing to help with that?
am i the only one who finds a utility like this very useful

i'm lost.
and ... what?
yes, i'm jewish. what's your point?
and please, post your questions/problems in the Questions & Answers section.
that's all i'm saying. i just happen to run into 20 new threads a day and it's driving me insane.

nir36 said:
i'm lost.
and ... what?
yes, i'm jewish. what's your point?
and please, post your questions/problems in the Questions & Answers section.
that's all i'm saying. i just happen to run into 20 new threads a day and it's driving me insane.
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LOL! I feel like I'm playing Whack-A-Mole everytime I'm here!

Hey NIR and Champ, you can´t win, it`s like Don Quichotes Fight against windmills . But it`s getting better here.

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it`s like Don Quichotes Fight against windmills .
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classic! lol!

fatso485 said:
"jeez" !!!
are you really a jew
take it easy nir. i was hoping to get someone intrested in developing this tool as it can be really usuful for far too many people. if a mod thinks this is not good here he should transfer it elseware
two things
- my pocket pcs does auto complete for addresses that i have used before they dont have to be in contact
-there are tool that can edit the outlook.nk2 from NIRsoft(lol) http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/outlook_nk2_autocomplete.html
how hard can it be to simply add the email adresses from the nk2 to the word auto complete in the ppc
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jeez, are you really a moron???
You must be if you rely on the .nk2 file for your auto complete. That is one of the quickest files to get corrupted on windows. So much so that windows will automatically delete it if it does become corrupt. It was never ment to be a feature, just a conveince. That is about as stupid as buying a 1tb hdd and never backing up.

let's not fight.
let's live in peace.
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let's post questions in the Questions & Answers section of the forum thank you very much and not answer questions here because it makes people ask more questions here which makes more people ask questions here.
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and fatso, i'll take the "jew" comment as a compliment and leave it at that.
cheers..

mr.incredibly stupid. take your incredibly arrogant, irrelevant and usless answer elseware. if you are too stupid or blind to see how something like this can potentionally be usuful to some, then i feel sorry for you.
in the first post i asked if someone was willing to develop a small utility (in my second reply i asked to transfer this if the mod thought it was in the wrong place) . i got trashed because part of my original request "sounded like a question" i think your all are making a big fuss over nothing. almost non of the replies is usuful up till now.
nir, i just thought that it was weird for a jew to say jeasus...it was a crappy joke and you all made it even crappier by dragging it on for ever instead of making an effort to reply to the request.

Alphabetizing Icons

I've been searching for days now, and can't seem to figure out why the icons are all mixed up...
Is there anyway to alphabetize the icons in the start menu?
I have a bunch of games loaded in a games folder and it's all mixed up, any ideas?
I tried searching the site and even googled it and all I came up with was a registry edit, but I don't have the key they say to edit.
I even tried deleting the folder and putting the icons back one at a time, in alphabetical order, but they still end up mixxed. ??

rjack88 said:
I've been searching for days now, and can't seem to figure out why the icons are all mixed up...
Is there anyway to alphabetize the icons in the start menu?
I have a bunch of games loaded in a games folder and it's all mixed up, any ideas?
I tried searching the site and even googled it and all I came up with was a registry edit, but I don't have the key they say to edit.
I even tried deleting the folder and putting the icons back one at a time, in alphabetical order, but they still end up mixxed. ??
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You seem to be new to the forums. Thank you for joining XDA-Developers.
Please take a minute to go over the Rules and Regulations of the forum.
Also, it seems that you are a Blue Angel owner, in which case I will encourage you to go over the BA forum regulations here
For questions, please use the search function in the site or simply Google for an answer. More than likely, your question has probably been answered before and the answer is floating around somewhere in the site. That being said, unless you are contributing to the site with either skins, roms, ports, new applications, programs, games, etc., please [highlight]do not[/highlight] open new threads. However, if you do have questions, you can post them either in the BA Q&A section or in the General Q&A section.
Thanks.

I did search the forum, and I googled it... I'm new to this forum, but not computers or the internet, I know how to search, been doing it since 1988.
I posted this question in the Q&A thread, but it was ignored, so I posted in the general forum.
Sorry If I offended you, but I never received a response to my question, I figured somebody else here was experiencing the same problem, maybe not.

rjack88 said:
I did search the forum, and I googled it... I'm new to this forum, but not computers or the internet, I know how to search, been doing it since 1988.
I posted this question in the Q&A thread, but it was ignored, so I posted in the general forum.
Sorry If I offended you, but I never received a response to my question, I figured somebody else here was experiencing the same problem, maybe not.
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It isn't a matter of me being offended, I am (as well as others) trying to keep some order in the forums. I do know that sometimes questions in the Q&A don't get answered right away, but if someone from the Q&A team (or other members out there) know the answer, they will reply. Maybe the reason why your question wasn't answered is because no one really knows the answer (or has bothered looking into it). You getting annoyed at the way the forums are handled does not give you the right to say "screw it, I'm opening a thread(s) anyways". On top of that, remember that not a single member in this site is forced to give you an answer. We all do it out of trying to help each other out since we are a community.
All of us have to abide by the site's rules.
Last but not least, this is a General Question (like you stated earlier) and not a device specific question. All I am saying in my previous post is "please follow the rules". If you searched earlier and posted the right questions in the right places, then either be patient or pm someone. Most of us are happy to help.
Anyways, now to your question. The way in which WM is designed, the application icons normally get a "first come, first serve" position. In other words, they are placed in chronological order of installation (at least in "Program Files"). I do not know if there is a way to organize the WM menus so that they will show apps in alphabetical order.
What you can do is look for a launcher or a replacement for the Program Folders (look in the Dev and Hacking sections for these). These normally organize the icons alphabetically and they are shown in a list format rather than a grid. I do agree with you though, it is pretty disorganized.... but then again M$ doesn't really care about the alphabet
Hope this helps...

rjack88 said:
I've been searching for days now, and can't seem to figure out why the icons are all mixed up...
Is there anyway to alphabetize the icons in the start menu?
I have a bunch of games loaded in a games folder and it's all mixed up, any ideas?
I tried searching the site and even googled it and all I came up with was a registry edit, but I don't have the key they say to edit.
I even tried deleting the folder and putting the icons back one at a time, in alphabetical order, but they still end up mixxed. ??
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I recently had this issue with the new AT&T Fuze ROM. Check around in your PROVXML files for anything similar to the code below. Note: This example code is from an AT&T ROM, but you may find something similar. If you do, delete it, and everything will return to standard Alphabetical order.
Code:
<!--334.08_Program menu order-->
<characteristic type="Registry">
<characteristic type="HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Shell\StartMenu">
<parm name="order" datatype="multiplestring" value="MEdia Net Home.lnkAT&T MallAT&T MusicGames & AppsMessagingAT&T GPSAlbum.lnkActiveSync.lnkToolsCellular Video.lnkWindows Media.lnkPush to Talk.lnkOpera Browser.lnkInternet Sharing.lnk" />
</characteristic>
</characteristic>

egzthunder1 said:
Anyways, now to your question. The way in which WM is designed, the application icons normally get a "first come, first serve" position. In other words, they are placed in chronological order of installation (at least in "Program Files"). I do not know if there is a way to organize the WM menus so that they will show apps in alphabetical order.
What you can do is look for a launcher or a replacement for the Program Folders (look in the Dev and Hacking sections for these). These normally organize the icons alphabetically and they are shown in a list format rather than a grid. I do agree with you though, it is pretty disorganized.... but then again M$ doesn't really care about the alphabet
Hope this helps...
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I figured that was the case, so I deleted all the icons in the folder, then copied them back from my PC, in alphabetical order, and they still ended up scrambled, M$ blows.

egzthunder1, you are f*cking idiot :/ i hate people like you :/ look. how loong it takes you to write that kind of sh*t? If you don't know the answer, don't write anything. If you want to make some new posts, there is off-topic thread. Everyone, at the beggining, is a begginer! It's not his guilt, so help him if u can, but don't do that sh*t :/ what a stupid country :/ & what a f*cking pommy :/ i'm proud i'm from PL
In WM6.5, you have option "move to the top" in start menu, if u tap and hold on icon, so u can sort all your icons, one by one.
Also you can use other launchers, which are more configure able.
btw sorry for bad english
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I fugured it out...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Shell\StartInfo\Start\Games
That's the folder I put all the games in, and inside that registry key was a bunch of .lnk entries corresponding to the games I had installed, each key had a rank, so I took the largest number of the key, and put that on the first icon, then in alphabetical order I changed the rank of each of the .lnk keys, decreasing by one as I went down the list, soft boot, now the folder is exactly how I wanted it.
Thanks

weteran said:
egzthunder1, you are f*cking idiot :/ i hate people like you :/ look. how loong it takes you to write that kind of sh*t? If you don't know the answer, don't write anything. If you want to make some new posts, there is off-topic thread. Everyone, at the beggining, is a begginer! It's not his guilt, so help him if u can, but don't do that sh*t :/ what a stupid country :/ & what a f*cking pommy :/ i'm proud i'm from PL
In WM6.5, you have option "move to the top" in start menu, if u tap and hold on icon, so u can sort all your icons, one by one.
Also you can use other launchers, which are more configure able.
btw sorry for bad english
MOD EDIT: The profanity is not needed. First warning... next step is a 3 day vacation.
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Let's watch the personal attacks. Regardless of how you feel about egzthunder1 reply, there is no place for your post either. It serves no purpose other then to incite a fight.
While egzthunder1 could have said what he did in a couple different ways, he is not wrong in pointing members (new OR old) to the rules of XDA-Developers. He did not berate the OP in any way; he simply informed him of the policies in place here that require a member (again, new OR old) to search prior to posting in an existing thread, or creating a new one.
Q&A sections are popping up in just about every forum because of an experiment done in the Raphael section that was a complete success. In case you may have missed it, the forum rules have recently been updated. I quote:
Flar said:
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
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So let's keep it clean going forward. If you have an issue with a member, take it to PM, or contact any of the moderators.
Thank you,
NATF

NotATreoFan, i don't think that it's wrong, what he wrote, but it's matter of moderators and admins to worry about such things. thats all from me ;]

weteran said:
NotATreoFan, i don't think that it's wrong, what he wrote, but it's matter of moderators and admins to worry about such things. thats all from me ;]
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@weteran,
While I don't necessarily appreciate the insults, particularly considering that I have not offended you (or even talked to you), I will say that if I have spoken badly in any manner, then point me at it and I will gladly apologize to the OP for my mistake. However, if I didn't, then why do you insult me?
I am not going to start a discussion with you (or a flame war). While it is true that I don't always know all the answers, at least I try to help or point people in the right direction to solve their problems. I do this because I love this community and its members and I have been helped countless times, so really it is my way of giving back.
@NATF,
Since the OP seems to have solved his issue, do you think that you could close this thread to keep it from growing needlessly? Thanks for your words

Issue resolved, closing thread.