I've had well over a year and a half of happy usage of my 8525 with the latest official WM6 ROM.
This week, though, my bluetooth seems to be on the fritz.
If the phone loses all of the battery life without recharging, it will turn off the wifi, bluetooth and phone just prior to powering all the way down.
Once it's recharged, the wifi and phone will re-enable without a hitch from the Comm Manager, but the bluetooth feature will not re-enable no matter how many times I try, or how many soft resets I do.
At first I thought the BT transmitter/receiver may be on the way out, but when I did a hard reset, the feature worked fine again.
What that seems to indicate is that if the phone powers down to dead battery, something is happening that's preventing the BT from re-enabling upon restart/recharge.
Other than "don't your phone battery die", has anyone experienced this or knows of any tricks/tips/hacks to get an unresponsive BT to come back to life without having to hard reset and reinstall apps and reconfigure phone?
Thanks.
Related
MAtes, I have a question regarding this nice tool. In the latest version it switches Bluetooth automatically off after 30 seconds of inactivity which causes some problems for me. On http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html it says:
Bluetooth is switched on automatically on incoming calls. However it take some seconds until the connection to the headset/car kit is established. If you leave Bluetooth always on there is no delay.
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So how do I leave Bluetooth always on then?
Hello farnold,
Hey nice tool, I've never heard of it! Thanks for sharing the tip!
In return maybe I can help you with your problem....
In order to disable the 30 second timer you can either click on the white clock on the today screen (it must turn gray to show a disabled state) or simply disable that today item (Start/Settings/Today/Items and uncheck Bluetooth Tools) that way the power saving feature will not work, but the rest of the suite will...
I hope this resolves your problem.
Best regards,
Rayan
Thanks, mate, the trick was clicking on the clock symbol I used it today in "standard" mode where Bluetooth switches itself off after 30 seconds... still answer calls wasn't such a problem - just took a second longer I would say
I have downloaded and installed this program. I am impressed with the added abilities included in it - in particular the "step down the road" of voice dialing with a BT headset, in that the phone now actually responds to a button press from the headset, though voice-dialing is not yet possible.
I am however very concerned by the huge increase in battery drain - my i-mate drained from 100% to 0% overnight last night. Before installing this program it would rarely drain below 65% overnight. This was with the BT on all the time . . . but I always left BT on all of the time before as well. This issue would need to be addresses (obviously) before this program would be a viable option.
why dont your pda sleep in it's cradle ?
It could have last night . . . but I wnated to make sure everything was normal - I noticed a quicker power drain after installing it and wanted to do a longer test.
Also, I am about to travel to Ukraine for the next 10 days, and there will be long periods (like 9+ hour airplane ride) where charging will not be possible. A rapid drain of my MP3 player, eBook reader and game console (I love the i-mate! ) would make me a very unhappy traveller.
@BRosenow,
So why don't you use the Bluetooth 60 second auto power off instead?
That way you will save some juice and Bluetooth will still work when you get a call.
Regards,
Rayan
I installed this program and left my cradle around 15:00 today. It's now 21:15 and the battery displays 90% left. I have sent and received several SMS'es, so I don't feel that there are any extra drain on my system.
Regards
Michael
As I am now seeing, people in other forums are posting experiences similar to mine. See http://www.ppcsg.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=32049&sid=b07cb63386a7323151a0a87d2b2e8081 for this discussion. They indicate (as I noticed when I had auto power-off enabled) that this had no effect of the quick power drain.
Strange, I am still at 86% power some 8 hours after leaving the charger. I have rebounded my GPS and used bluetooth briefly after installing the latest pocket bluetooth tools. Possible you have a conflict with some app I am not running..
Regards
Michael
Hm, really strange. I also did not see any change in power consumption using this tool. I always take mine off the cradle around 8am in the morning and use it throught the day until about 7pm in the evening. Bluetooth w/o that tool only in the car - now more or less always, but with Auto Sleep Mode... the power drain is about the same for me...
I have the same power drain problem. My device didn't power off automatically whichever profile (on the Today plugin) I used. It works only when I switch on the bluetooth timer, but I want to have it on always.
Mine, I got different issue... after installing this new version I'm having problem to connect to my Bluetooth headset sometimes it works sometime it doesn't. Also if it doesn't connect to my bluetooth headset I can't even use the phone itself, the other party can hear me but I can't hear the person on the other line. Also the Headset icon is missing when you're using BT headset. I installed it twice and end-up the same problem so I uninstall it and used the previous version.
BUT I really like the feature that you can dial the last number you call thru the BT Headset.
Anyone having the same problem? I am using the latest ROM of T-Mobile by the way!
Hey Superperry,
some problem this end non bt headset bubble when you are using the bluetooth headset.
When you make a call it does not connect automatically to the headset you have to press the button on the headset.
Sometime it connects sometimes it does not need more improvement in the latest version.
Regards
Gigi
After installing the new version i got the following problem.
When i am dialing using the phone itself with bluetooth off the
BT turns on and the bluelight is bliking and it turns off after 60sec.
This drains the battery quicker than before
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Hey Superperry,
some problem this end non bt headset bubble when you are using the bluetooth headset.
When you make a call it does not connect automatically to the headset you have to press the button on the headset.
Sometime it connects sometimes it does not need more improvement in the latest version.
Regards
Gigi
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Gigi,
Thanks for the input. Atleast now I know not only me having those problem.
And Yes, it still need some improvement on this latest version.
power drain and another weird problem
Yeah .... I've had the pwerdrain problem. Was fishing and even though I'd switched the device off, each time I checked it it had drastically lost juice. Was worried it was going to go completely flat before I got home. .... and I didn't make or receive a single call.
Also had another wierd problem - sometimes after switching unit off. it wouldn't switch on again until I did a soft reset.
Power drain..seems afflict me too,but I don't use any BtTools and take BT off..!
I charge my XDA2 twice a day..hmm..this lets me think that it is a application conflict!
Also seems my xda runs very slow..
and I have noticed when i connect my xda with active sync it sometimes doesnt sync but still waiting: Connecting (for ever) and uses 90% of my cpu,amazing!
Now will try to find the prob.
I also experienced power leak from my I-Mate. It ran out in half of the day even I was trying to charge it via USB. I had to uninstall app after loosing bunch of my business call this day
blue tooth toolkit causing serious problems (I think)
OK several days of using it, this is what I think is happening.
1. Without BTTK power drain on XDA2 very acceptable. With BT switched on permanently then drains about twice as quickly but still acceptable.
2. With BTTK installed and in BT timer mode, then drain is very good ie as per not having BT switched on at all. UNTIL Blue tooth is fist used for either an incoming or outgoing call. After that - even if it's theortically in the sleep mode - the drain is disastrous - lost 70% of the juice overnight with everything switched off.
3. If battery charge is below about 45 to 50% then powering off and on again by the on/off button doesn't work. After a power-off I have to do a soft reset.
...... of course mine might be a sepcial case, and BTTK might be interacting with something else, but it looks like I'll have to go the ROM upgrade route.
Mike
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone else is having the same problems.
When I go to bed I turn the PDA off. The phone is still on.
When I wake about 7 hours later I find the battery is at 60%.
What's the deal? I thought it was supposed to have 150 hour standby life.
I do find something else quite weird. When I turn the PDA off the screen turns off and it all seems fine. I have the button lock turned on so no other buttons will work. After a couple of minutes, if I move the volume slider up or down the PDA will beep. Then if I press any of the buttons such as "Record" "Camera" and "Calander" Nothign seems to happen.
But when I turn the PDA on the "Recoard" "Camera" and "Calander" applications will load.
It is kinda of like it isn't turning off the PDA at all.
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong or how to fix it?
Thanks
Cam
if grps is only and bluetooth is on and maybe messenger and or icq is on it drain the batt
GPRS and Bluetooth are both on but GPRS is not connected. And Bluetooth is not connecting to anything.
I don't use messanger.
Would that still be draining the battery that much?
Cam
Cyeoh,
Unfortunately, I know exactly what you are going through. Your phone is entering a mode called 'resuming', it’s a low power state that does not turn on the display, etc, but will respond to hardkeys, volume slider, etc......
I'm guessing your XDA2 goes into 'resume' while trying to find a GSM signal, (are you in a weak area). This is my problem, you can read about it here...
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38598
As a test, you should turn off the phone, (flight mode) for one night and compare the battery in the morning, (I'm willing to bet is almost the same as when you left it). Alternately install an app that monitors cpu usage, (like the one in the above link), and you probably will see a similar pattern to mine.
The registry solution does help, but causes problems with Bluetooth, (at least it did on my device, nothing a soft reset didn’t fix, but it was VERY annoying)….
If it is your GSM phone, you might want to try using another GSM SIM card from another provider, (maybe a friends) and see if you get better results. When I switched to a better provider I got an increase of 10% on the battery, (not great but something!)
Thank You very much.
That does answer a lot. I do have very bad reception at home. I guess this may mean I need to leave it charging over night. However I do find the XDA does charge very quickly which mean in the time it takes me to get ready for work it is back up to 93%.
I will put it into Flight mode tonight to see what happens.
It's still a little bit ****ty and it seems to be because of software. Hopefully they will fix it in the next ROM update.
Thanks
Cam
How did you go with your test last night cyeoh, did your battery last a little longer?
I'm intrested to know as when I charge my battery over night in the morning its still is not on 100% untill I do a soft reset or disable and enable flight mode then it pops up to 100% and stops charging... yet a nother feature of some software I've installed or the ROM version at the moment!!!
Hi There
Great device but for some reason after installing BT Tools and SPB GPRS Monitor the turn off after so many minutes fails to work.
The setting are correct and I've even used the same settings for both the BT Tools battery profiles but it doesn't work. The backlight goes off just like it should but the unit never powers down. As a result I'm unwittingly chewing through battery power unless I manually press the power button.
Has anyone ever experienced this? If so do you know why? Many thanks in advance.
Update: I have since removed BT Tools and the auto-power off is functioning properly again. Any and all advice will be appreciated.
mmm maybe this is the same problem i am having?
I get messages SMS at 6am every morning (scheduled from work) most mornings when I pick my phone up, it is off and the message is there, some mornings even though when I went to bed the battery was full the phone is dead (backup battery and all) I presume the phone is waking up when the SMS comes in and not shutting down so the battery runs completely dead. Although the blue light on the top of the phone is falshing....
I also run BT Tools and will try uninstalling it and waiting a week or two to see if the problem goes away. It doesn't happen every day by the way it seems to happen maybe every 10 days or so......
OHHH BTW I don't have GPRS Monitor installed, just BT Tools!
You dont put it on charge overnight?
I do, but I find that if I leave it on the entire day I only get 3.5 hours of use out of it and then it needs to re-charge. So it needs to turn off when idle.
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You dont put it on charge overnight?
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I do sometimes but not always especially if it is already 100% (or close to it), it is still an issue IMHO, having to leave the phone plugged in when fully charged isn't a perfect solution and generally I thought not the best for the battery in the long term!!!!
Besides the same thing could happen during the day, if you dont hear the SMS come in and the phone is in the case clipped to your belt and its switched on for an hour, when it need not be on at all!!!!
Don't get me wrong I love the functionality BT Tools provides, it is a fantastic program, I would just like to know how common this problem is? I will also try and contact the author and see if they know of this problem?
Hardest part is that it doesn't happen every time, only sometimes, just makes it harder for the author to track down the cause, from personal experience I hate tracking down these sorts of problems!!!
Hi there,
With my BlueAngel I could leave the WiFi on all night as when the phone was switched off it did not eat up the battery - when the phone was switched on it would spend a couple of seconds reconnecting to the wireless point.
The Universal seems to behave in the same way, yet it eats up all the battery overnight even when I have switched the phone off and it is not connected to the WiFi access point.
Is there some setting or registry key I can alter to fix this?
Cheers,
Quilty
@Qulity, if you don't close PIE I have found the battery can be drained. I assume overnight you are using Flight Mode.
Are you closing the flip and presuming that the device gets turned off or have you actually set your device to turn off after a fixed period of inactivity in the power settings?
If it is the former, then the device actually does not turn off if there is any activity in the background like active GPRS or WiFi etc. A simple solution to this would be to press the hard-ware on/off button once you are done irrespective of whether wfi is active or not in the background.
Try it out and post your results here.
My device is set to turn off after 2 mins on battery power, but I made a special point of turning it off with the hardware button before testing last night. As I said before my BlueAngel never behaved like this.
my jasjar was turned off yesterday, and every 5min i heard sound for new wifi network!! same problem, i solved it with turnig wifi off!! any other solutions?
In past few days, TyTN has started to drain the battery completely within 12hrs. First time I thought it was just me getting confused, but last night, TyTN had 90% capacity after recharging it for 2-3 hrs via USB cable and tomorrow it was completely dead.
I have checked that there are no programs runnin (from System->Memory -> Running programs and with Taskmanager), WiFi is off, no GPRS/3G connection have been established, BT is off.
I haven't installed any applications for about two weeks, so nothing has changed.
Also, TyTN has started dropping my bt hf without any reason. To get the hf back in the game, I have to turn hf off and then turn off the bt in TyTN. Next TyTN bt on and hf on and connection will be restored.
have the same problem, I posted under "battery drain problems" if you want to check out the details. Every now and then the unit will hold its charge and work normally but otherwise even when on standy the unit feels very slightly warm giving the impression that there is some kind of intermittant short or something. very strange. Have tried everything from pulling battery, sd card, resets, one hard reset. All to no avail. And when it does work (only short times so far) it doesn't seem to be for any apparent reason!
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In past few days, TyTN has started to drain the battery completely within 12hrs. First time I thought it was just me getting confused, but last night, TyTN had 90% capacity after recharging it for 2-3 hrs via USB cable and tomorrow it was completely dead.
I have checked that there are no programs runnin (from System->Memory -> Running programs and with Taskmanager), WiFi is off, no GPRS/3G connection have been established, BT is off.
I haven't installed any applications for about two weeks, so nothing has changed.
Also, TyTN has started dropping my bt hf without any reason. To get the hf back in the game, I have to turn hf off and then turn off the bt in TyTN. Next TyTN bt on and hf on and connection will be restored.
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have you found a solution? could you reply on my thread? really appreciate it