Hey everyone. For a long time now I have been waiting for someone to design a visual voicemail program for Windows Mobile. Unfortunately, it seems no one has been interested, which I find rather odd. There are a number of services available now that allow for customized voicemail storage, YouMail and Grand Central being the most popular. They also have the option to send a copy of the voicemail to your email with call details and the audio file as an attachment. I have been using YouMail to do this for the last year or so. Unfortunately, they don't offer a front-end for this. They have a mobile website page, but frankly I'm not impressed. What I have been hoping for is a program that will read the emails and parse out the appropriate information, and play the attachment. I have attached a picture of what I was envisioning. Anyone think they're up to the task of realizing this project?
Great idea, I myself would love to have this, it's one of the few things I miss from my old Treo. But, I don't know if it's possible to get info like the message time, caller name, and number. It would be a simple set of buttons that could be configured properly to choose an option.
TheChampJT said:
Great idea, I myself would love to have this, it's one of the few things I miss from my old Treo. But, I don't know if it's possible to get info like the message time, caller name, and number. It would be a simple set of buttons that could be configured properly to choose an option.
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Message time, caller name and number are all in the body of the email that is sent. It'd just be a simple matter of parsing the data correctly
i think the major issue no one has done it yet is because everyone uses some different service.
its not like ok all the iphone ATT people use X visual voicemail service and the vZW people have Y service. Youre talking about an interface for every possible service like grandcentral or those forwarding services- theres at least a dozen and they all use different audio formats and such.
The real issue is consolidation to please everyone, and devs dont want to put time into make niche programs for every possible service.
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Message time, caller name and number are all in the body of the email that is sent. It'd just be a simple matter of parsing the data correctly
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What email?
klmsu19 said:
i think the major issue no one has done it yet is because everyone uses some different service.
its not like ok all the iphone ATT people use X visual voicemail service and the vZW people have Y service. Youre talking about an interface for every possible service like grandcentral or those forwarding services- theres at least a dozen and they all use different audio formats and such.
The real issue is consolidation to please everyone, and devs dont want to put time into make niche programs for every possible service.
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That's true, but the thing about that is that a) there are only a few voicemail services out there, and only a couple that a lot of people use (YouMail, GrandCentral, SpinVox, and b) in order for a program to support all of them, the only thing you would have to change would be to tell the program which email format you are looking at. In other words, you'd only have to specify the parsing format, which would be a relatively simple and short section of the code that could be specified in settings. Also, they don't all use different audio formats, they use standard ones which would all be played by the same standard API call, so that's not an issue either. Anyway, hopefully this thread piques somebody's interest.
TheChampJT said:
What email?
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The email that you get from YouMail or GrandCentral or whatever voicemail service you're using (the email that has the audio as an attachment).
Anyone interested in this?
YES
I know I am
^Me too.
but we are in germany here.
Check out mVisualVoiceMail (google it) it works great and does exactly what you want. I use youmail and it works awesome.
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Check out mVisualVoiceMail (google it) it works great and does exactly what you want. I use youmail and it works awesome.
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Did they just release a new update or something? I tried mVisualVoicemail and it didn't parse the YouMail emails correctly and also didn't play the .mp3 attachments.
Does youmail work in the UK? Iv never thought of a service like this, and it actually appears useful.
dzign-it said:
Does youmail work in the UK? Iv never thought of a service like this, and it actually appears useful.
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Unless they have a UK # to forward to I wouldn't think so...the forwarding # is USA based and since it uses conditional call forwarding rates you'd be paying international minutes.
i've been using callwave for my visual voicemail with att this before they started making you pay i just gotta email sayin that there goin to end the beta program so i'm thinkin about switch back to youmail one think i don't like is that youmail doesnt automatically update after you recieve a new message
but the developers are working on it
Keland44 said:
i've been using callwave for my visual voicemail with att this before they started making you pay i just gotta email sayin that there goin to end the beta program so i'm thinkin about switch back to youmail one think i don't like is that youmail doesnt automatically update after you recieve a new message
but the developers are working on it
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Yes, they're working on a lot of things. Unfortunately, something like this isn't one of them. Hopefully a nice friendly neighborhood programmer has a little time on his hands . Please???
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Did they just release a new update or something? I tried mVisualVoicemail and it didn't parse the YouMail emails correctly and also didn't play the .mp3 attachments.
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I had the same problem about 8 months ago, so i was using callwave, but since its no longer free i switched back to youmail. mvisualvoicemail parses the names perfectly, doesn't do .mp3 though, only .wav
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I had the same problem about 8 months ago, so i was using callwave, but since its no longer free i switched back to youmail. mvisualvoicemail parses the names perfectly, doesn't do .mp3 though, only .wav
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I'm not sure how you're saying that. It does the name sometimes, but not when the call was, or the duration of the call, or anything else like that, and as you mentioned, it doesn't play .mp3s so all together it's hardly a sufficient solution. Is there anyone here interested in developing a working solution?
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hello Xda world,
Has anyone looked into Visual Voice Mail? Quite an interesting feature from iPhone. If there are any developed already. Can I have the cab files please?
sounds more like an operator feature
being that when the device is off or busy
calls dont have access to storing stuff in it's mem
and htc phones dont even support normal voice mail
Thanks Rudegar,
Yes, looks more Network controlled service...but I am not sure what exactly you meant by 'normal voice mail' feature not able to work on HTCs.
Voicemail on my Xda orbit works fine
Cheers!
Sridhar Gondesi said:
hello Xda world,
Has anyone looked into Visual Voice Mail? Quite an interesting feature from iPhone. If there are any developed already. Can I have the cab files please?
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http://www.callwave.com/landing/corp_home_v2e.asp
Free visual voice mail.
Has anyone tried this?
I'm wondering what people think about it... sounds interesting, but it transcribes your voice mails as text... I feel like it would lost something like that. Plus, its only free while in Beta. What do you guys think of it?
Dishe said:
Has anyone tried this?
I'm wondering what people think about it... sounds interesting, but it transcribes your voice mails as text... I feel like it would lost something like that. Plus, its only free while in Beta. What do you guys think of it?
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I've been using this for a while now...the transcription is poor but you can usually get the gist of a message and decide if it's worth listening to if you need detail. You get an email with the text and you have the choice of whether it includes a wav attachment of the actual voicemail (I choose to get the attachment so I can "play" the voicemail from the phone without having to dial in to voicemail. Some nice features is you get an email even if the person does not leave a voicemail so you know someone tried to call and it has enhanced callerid so if someone on a landline calls it grabs their name, address etc....you can add cell phone contact info to your "contacts" on the website and those will work too.
As for the only free while in beta...use it while you can..if they start charging I will sign up at k7.net for a free voicemail/fax # and use the call forwarding to forward to it...I will still get my voicemails AND faxes in email as attachments..I just won't have the text inside the email...
Hello,
Not exactly visual voice mail as in iphone, but I think its possible to develop a software application residing in the device which can connect to carrier/network specific voice mail box (#121 on vodafone, #901 on O2 in UK etc.) to gather voice mail details and store it on the device itself. Once the voice mails are downloaded, application can mimic visual voice mail feature. The advantage is there is no need to call voice mail box number again and again to hear the voice messages once downloaded.
This is what I think Sridhar is expecting.
Cheers,
Abhay
There was actually a post in the General forum a few weeks ago that showed how the visual voicemail worked on the iPhone. Essentiaelly, ATT sends a text message that's invisible to the iPhone with encrypted info on the callers name, number, etc... Also, abhaypatil's idea is most likely impossible unless the carriers provide some sort of API's with which to access the voicemail box, which is unlikely.
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There was actually a post in the General forum a few weeks ago that showed how the visual voicemail worked on the iPhone. Essentiaelly, ATT sends a text message that's invisible to the iPhone with encrypted info on the callers name, number, etc... Also, abhaypatil's idea is most likely impossible unless the carriers provide some sort of API's with which to access the voicemail box, which is unlikely.
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There was another program that was free while in beta that had a custom app you ran which was supposed to be "iphone like" for visual voicemail...was called "simulsays" or something like that.
Man what i would give for an iphone like visual voicemail.. drool
http://www.simulsays.com/
fallenczar said:
http://www.simulsays.com/
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Ya know? I hate companies that have on the front screen, "Get this product FREE NOW!, and then you click on the link and its $120.00 a year. I don't understand how that is free, but thats okay.
Get youmail. It is really free
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Ya know? I hate companies that have on the front screen, "Get this product FREE NOW!, and then you click on the link and its $120.00 a year. I don't understand how that is free, but thats okay.
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Get it here:
http://www.youmail.com/home/index.do
You can get a text message with a link to the VM, or get it as an email attachment. I've been using it for quite awhile, with excellent results.
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Get it here:
http://www.youmail.com/home/index.do
You can get a text message with a link to the VM, or get it as an email attachment. I've been using it for quite awhile, with excellent results.
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same here that's who i would recommend i was using callwave at one point but there beta program ended if you don't mind paying i would say check out youmail and www.callwave.com
youmail has better features especially when it comes to voicemail customization i would like to say that i believe callwave has better transcript though i use the free version of youmail and i was part of the beta program for callwave
For anyone interested, there is a method that will give you visual voicemail on any phone/pda with direct push capabilities in the USA.
1. Goto www.callwave.com and sign up for their FREE voicemail service (US ONLY)
2. If you don't have access to an exchange server already (for Direct Push mail) sign up for free access at www.mail2web.com, or any place you'd like, I use mail2web because it's free
3. Now, log into your callwave phonepage (link in on the top right on main callwave page) and goto settings. Enter your mail2web (or whatever) address as your email address. then goto (I think.. accounts) the far right tab. Disable text messaging notification (unless you want that as well) and enable email notification. Check the box to have it attach a .wav file of the message.
4. Set up activesync on your pda/phone.... goto messaging and options, select outlook e-mail. Enter the server and login information for whatever exchange server you set up.
Now, open activesync on your device and and goto menu - schedule. I prefer to have mine sync when new items arrive, that way as soon as a new message comes in you'll get it.
Ok, now you should be all set, sorry if I missed anything, post any questions and I'll try to respond quickly.
*** Reasons this is awesome ***
1. If you are transfering data when a call comes in, it will notify you of missed call/voicemail while you are still transfering.
2. Person call doesn't even have to leave a message, you can have it notify you of any missed call, so if your phone is off when you turn it on you'll see all calls, not just voicemails.
3. Callwave actually transcribes the voicemail, so in the body of the email you recieve will be an attempt at speech to text of the voicemail.
4. Voicemail messages are archives online at your Callwave PhonePage, so you can go back and search for old voicemails by typing anything from that voicemail in the search box
5. You can still call in to get messages just like standard voicemail, personal greeting and all that (just call your own # from your phone)
6. If the person calling has a blocked/private # it will still show the number in the email!
I also did a reg edit of the "friendlyname" Outlook E-mail. so my today screen says: Voicemail : 1 new msg
With this method you basically have iphone like visual voicemail, you goto your inbox and pick which ever message you want to hear, click the attachment and it opens in you media player. Or you can get an idea of what the message is about just by reading the text of the email.
Sorry if anyone of this is hard to understand, writing in a hurry because I'm at work.
Post any questions/comments.
-Matt
Any programmers out there
One other thing..
Don't know if it's possible, but if there are any programmers out there that could make an application that would run on the pda that could connect to callwave and allow you to listen, delete voicemails. They have widgets/gadgets that you can add to google/yahoo/Vista that do that, is there anyway to incorporate that into a pda application??
This does not, under any circumstances, work with Sprint. Just FYI.
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This does not, under any circumstances, work with Sprint. Just FYI.
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There is no reason in the world this will not work with sprint..it doesn't even have anything to DO with sprint....the only part you might have to do different is find out how to set "conditional call forwarding" to forward all calls when phone is busy to the new voicemail phone #. All the poster has presented is a method to have voicemails routed to email..the only difference between callwave and other services like k7.net and simulsays.com is that callwave currently is beta testing a "voice to text" transcription service and includes a "mostly readable" text version of the attached wav voicemail. When they start charging I can switch over to a free service like k7.net in about 5 minutes and the voice to text is the only part I will lose.
Yes, in theory you are correct. However, as you will clearly see on the CallWave website, they work with everyone BUT Sprint, because Sprint refuses to provision customer accounts to have this type of forwarding. And I can verify this, as I spent 1.5 hours of my time today, through 2 levels of tech support (3 different reps) all of whom ultimately came back and said "impossible".
From the CallWave Activation widget itself (from their website):
"CallWave works with most major carriers including Cingular, Verizon and TMobile. Unfortunately activation is not available for Sprint."
If someone has another method for using the service through Sprint, I would love to hear it.
Sorry about that...looked into it further and you are 100% correct. You CAN do call forwarding but it would end up costing you alot. Apparently sprint charges .10 to .20 a minute for call forwarding and gives you NO free conditional call forwarding minutes. Seems all the other providers have SOME method to do it. Bummer.
Ok..here is one post where they said they had it working and csr got it working for them again...
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1481614&postcount=7
FYI, I had conditional call forwarding for my busy and no answer calls enabled for my sprint phone so that I could use youmail for voicemail and they also stopped working recently with no explanation.
The codes to enable them (*73 and *74) also no longer work and give an error.
I had to call Sprint and they were able to do it for me I just had to give them the number I wanted to forward to. The rep said that she didn't know about the old instructions but that she had gotten alot of calls recently of people with the same problem so she guessed that something had changed recently where you are no longer able to set this yourself. She didn't have any other information but my conditional call forwarding is working again so I'm happy.
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meatlocker said:
Yes, in theory you are correct. However, as you will clearly see on the CallWave website, they work with everyone BUT Sprint, because Sprint refuses to provision customer accounts to have this type of forwarding. And I can verify this, as I spent 1.5 hours of my time today, through 2 levels of tech support (3 different reps) all of whom ultimately came back and said "impossible".
From the CallWave Activation widget itself (from their website):
"CallWave works with most major carriers including Cingular, Verizon and TMobile. Unfortunately activation is not available for Sprint."
If someone has another method for using the service through Sprint, I would love to hear it.
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So basically someone listens to your voicemail and then sends you the 'gist' of it? Sorry, I really don't need someone listening to my work voicemail and I don't think my patients would like that either.
Why on earth would you think they are listening to your voicemail? Have you never heard of speech recognition?
I think it might be exceedingly cost-ineffective to hire staff to transcribe a million voicemail messages. Thankfully some nice gentleman invented computers to make these tasks easier.
fluxist
I didn't think the internet would work on a P.B. 386sx, it is 2007!
fluxist said:
Why on earth would you think they are listening to your voicemail? Have you never heard of speech recognition?
I think it might be exceedingly cost-ineffective to hire staff to transcribe a million voicemail messages. Thankfully some nice gentleman invented computers to make these tasks easier.
fluxist
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Exactly, it is completely computerized, the text of the voicemail is not all that accurate. If it was typed out by a person listening to your voicemail that person would have to a complete moron. That feature is useful only to give you an idea of what the voicemail is about, it's more entertaining to read them than it is useful however.
wow
maevro said:
So basically someone listens to your voicemail and then sends you the 'gist' of it? Sorry, I really don't need someone listening to my work voicemail and I don't think my patients would like that either.
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patients? you telling us you're a doctor? I really hope you are better at your profession than you are at grasping modern technology.
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patients? you telling us you're a doctor? I really hope you are better at your profession than you are at grasping modern technology.
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Actually I am a therapist and I understood it wrong - OH MY GOD, I READ IT WRONG SO YOU MUST BE THE NEXT BILL GATES AND KNOW ALL ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND NEVER READ ANYTHING WRONG.
Because I am concerned about my patients privacy and you joke, that is sad. I would like to see how fast you would have a lawsuit if you had an illness and that information was available to the general public.
i have an 8125 with WM6 but im not familiar with direct push...although i do get my gmail emails on my phone...can i do this?
stolli said:
i have an 8125 with WM6 but im not familiar with direct push...although i do get my gmail emails on my phone...can i do this?
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You can still do it, but you would only get message notifications via email by checking your email. Direct push means that the server sends email to your phone without you needing to check it. Microsoft Exchange servers do direct push.
Callwave does offer SMS notification though, can't see why that wouldn't work.
There are some other features with Callwave, not sure how usefull they are, but they are interesting.
You can initiate a call from "in the middle" making both your cell and the destination ring, or home phone for that matter, you can also answer the call on your PC , with the paid service.
So not overly usefull but , some nice tech ...
but didnt older versions of wm5 have direct push? i recall something about that...and is htere any way to have direct push with wm6?
for some reason i could never sign up for a callwave account, i assume its cause I am in canada.
whenever i put my # in it tells me to input a valid mobile phone number
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One other thing..
Don't know if it's possible, but if there are any programmers out there that could make an application that would run on the pda that could connect to callwave and allow you to listen, delete voicemails. They have widgets/gadgets that you can add to google/yahoo/Vista that do that, is there anyway to incorporate that into a pda application??
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I'm all about writing a plug-in or app that will do for windows what AT&T and Aple are getting sued for on iPhone.
I'm driving myself batty trying to figure out how I can intercept the network signals from the carrier to the device which are used as a notification of new voicemail. From the patents I've read on the existing technolgy, it's possible to get everything but the message itself from the signal. I don't want to speek to soon, but there's an ID that's transmitted as part of this message it supposedly the "unique" on the message in YOUR VMail box.
If anyone has any tips on how I can intercept that message, even if you only know the protocol....that would be a huge help.
I've tried intercepting SMS already and left a VM for myself and NOTHING! I'm still playing with it though. I think that I maight have been watching for the wrong message types. I might need to trap for RAW (priority=0, for you regedit nuts out there)
Later,
-D
good stuff i have a wizard but i just set it up so i'm goin to check it out
should come in handy since i don't get all my calls sometimes
I gotta admit this is pretty damn cool so far..
Biggest plus is seeing missed calls when my phone is off and seeing block #'s
awesome thanks for the heads up
Haven't tried callwave yet but I've been using Simulsays visual voicemail on my 8525 for a while now.
Youmail has a new beta for visual voicemail with the caller id picture and all.
the also have a beta for voicemail transcription which personally i like better than visual voicemail (when it is accurate ) Its send you a text message after the voivemail is received and transcribed to text.
Its got alot more cool features just check them out on the website.... just thought you guys might be interested.
Its all free check it out at WWW.YOUMAIL.COM
seems your provider will still charge u for fowarding calls
at&t hasn't charged me for forwarding
I've been using YouMail for quite a while and am very pleased with it. It will suck hard when they come out of beta. I still haven't recovered completely from losing just about all of my Jott functionality.
The only thing I'd like is to be able to assign a button, either soft or hardware, to take me right to YouMail, instead of having to open a browser first. Anyone that can clue me in?
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Ya, they charge you for the minutes you are connected to voicemail (through forwarding) but with all of its functionality i think it is worth it
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I've been using YouMail for quite a while and am very pleased with it. It will suck hard when they come out of beta. I still haven't recovered completely from losing just about all of my Jott functionality.
The only thing I'd like is to be able to assign a button, either soft or hardware, to take me right to YouMail, instead of having to open a browser first. Anyone that can clue me in?
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I think you could Create a .lnk file containg the browser and then i'm sure you could include a browser command (url link) to direct you to the website automatically. you would then just have to create a registry string for it and place it in the corresponding folder......
I'll do some looking around and see what i can find.
for now though you could just set it as your homepage and then when you open the browser it is already there
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I think you could Create a .lnk file containg the browser and then i'm sure you could include a browser command (url link) to direct you to the website automatically. you would then just have to create a registry string for it and place it in the corresponding folder......
I'll do some looking around and see what i can find.
for now though you could just set it as your homepage and then when you open the browser it is already there
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Thanks for responding,
It stays at the top of my favorites page in SPB MS, so its like 4 taps to get to it from the Now screen.
Not terrible at all, but I've always wanted a way to get to IE favorites directly from the Today screen, or have them available the same way the MRU programs are. I appreciate you looking into it.
I left youmail
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/
http://www.phonefusion.com/
http://mobilitytoday.com/news/009092...n_voicemail_g1
I used youmail for a while, but I was annoyed at a couple things, mostly that I have to download the email on my phone and then download the file, but still a good service.
I found the service above which is close to the same, except it actually is a .cab and the app is launched by the incoming txt and the messages are in a single screen. You can set to download automatically, and that way the app comes up and you can click directly to listen, basically 1 click because it comes up as a notification, like a missed call notification. Pretty cool.
They just came out with a version for the G1 Android that you can see the review on the mobility link, and the others are the main company and the top one is the voicemail. It's pretty easy to set up, and you can try and go back to youmail if it doesn't fit your needs. Also, you can change your greeting on this service, just call the number from your handset once you're set up online.
looks cool but phone fusion says it isn't free......
fusion voicemail plus says it is though?
which one are you using
Free Version
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/
This one is free. I started trying it this morning and I'm pretty happy with it. Your minutes are used, just like on youmail.
What I like about youmail is I can forward my email right to text and I never have to listen to VM. Looks like with phone fusion I only get caller ID info not the messages in the text. Is that right?
-McMex
ya.... but it gives you the "iphone" visual voicemail experience
just a little different setup
No Txt I know of
Correct McMex,
Youmail you get txt to read, but not in Fusion, at least not for free, and I didn't really review any other services from them . Txt just hasn't worked well for me on Youmail because it all looks jarbled, if it does for you that's great. Just another option to look at.
Youmail is working better these days. I have tried many of these services, and youmail is the cheapest, but I wouldnt say the best.
Thanks yes right now with youmail I get an email sent then forward the email and there is a lot of junk around the message in the text. I still prefer that to listening to VM. Thanks for the info guys.
-McMex
i was grandfathered in from the beta so i get the text for free so its not a bad deal for me
cparkhorn said:
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/
This one is free. I started trying it this morning and I'm pretty happy with it. Your minutes are used, just like on youmail.
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I just started using YouMail as it doesn't require me to have an unlimited txt plan. Does Fusion require sms? I have it, but only a 200/month plan. I'm not thrilled about the idea of upgrading my sms plan just for a better voicemail.
hi guys,
Here is a useful program which makes your phone to receive fax and get voice mail. Microsoft gives it free.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/totalaccess/software/software/phonefusion.mspx
unable to download -
does someone have the cab to upload?
roisagi said:
unable to download -
does someone have the cab to upload?
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here you go...
thanks very much
maybe I did something wrong in setting it up but once I had it installed, all incoming calls went straight to a message saying enter the 10 digit number to access your voicemail!!
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maybe I did something wrong in setting it up but once I had it installed, all incoming calls went straight to a message saying enter the 10 digit number to access your voicemail!!
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looks like its for the US only.
updated
here's an update! version 2.2 for PF VM Plus (not available through MS site *yet*)
Appears to be for the USA only
So far this is an excellent program and works flawlessly, which I am pleasantly surprised about. One issue though: your voicemails are individually downloaded to your phone as MP3's (I think - they MAY be wav's but I have yet to find out where they are being stored), so when you tap to listen, it opens up your audio player. In my case it's Nitrogen* since I have set the file associations so that Nitrogen opens up MP3's. You can imagine that the audio plays thru the external speaker like any other MP3 does. Not necessarily what you want when listening to voicemail
I have found some little apps that let you toggle the sound from the earpiece to the external speaker, and they can be accessed to do this via command line, but how would I do this? Really what needs to happen is that IF the Fusion voicemail program is open, then Nitrogen plays audio thru the earpiece; otherwise it plays audio thru the external speaker. Any ideas how to do this with mortscript.
*it doesn't matter what player you have, as even the default windows player behaves the same way.
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here's an update! version 2.2 for PF VM Plus (not available through MS site *yet*)
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Happy Bijaya Dasami Hai Sathi ...
English translation--- Happy greetings of the festival...
and does this work outside us,, as you are in singapore ??? does it work there ???
not working outside th us?.....
I heard you need to use call-forwarding to get this to work... any hope or workarounds for Sprint users to avoid the extravagant and ridiculous fees that's charged for forwarded calls?
Sprint charges you for call forwarding? I thought this came included in most voice plans across carrier?
Is this incorrect? Sprint Call forwarding
Cheers
***Wow I JUST read the last line. they charge you .20 per minute??!! That's insane!
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Sprint charges you for call forwarding? I thought this came included in most voice plans across carrier?
Is this incorrect? Sprint Call forwarding
Cheers
***Wow I JUST read the last line. they charge you .20 per minute??!! That's insane!
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Just want to update this and say that Sprint is no longer charging for conditional call forwarding (busy/no answer), which is what's needed to forward your missed calls to Fusion Voicemail Plus.
Boo to T-mobile!
SoloStyle said:
Just want to update this and say that Sprint is no longer charging for conditional call forwarding (busy/no answer), which is what's needed to forward your missed calls to Fusion Voicemail Plus.
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But I believe T-Mobile (UK at least) do, as they even do for picking up their own voicemail (i.e. not used from your allowance, although I think I read somewhere the Flext tariff allows this) - I didn't check this when I switched from Vodafone and am a bit peeved, as I thought it was pretty much universal with a contract and included minutes.
I keep seeing posts from various users here, as well as all over the internet, about how easy it is to get SMS up and going through WiFi and they describe various ways of accomplishing it, but none of them ever work for me. Can someone/anyone tell me once in for all rather its possible, and please describe (in detail if you please), how to do it?
Question: If I, or anyone else, was to decide to just wait for the WiFi ONLY Tabs to come out for this very purpose (texting via wifi), would we be wasting our time? I mean IF its not possible via wifi on the wifi/3G Tab, then we shouldnt expect it to work on the wifi ONLY Tab either right? Thanks in advance.
It is possible (and quite easy) to get SMS working over WiFi. If you have a google voice account, you can download the google voice app and use that to text people (or you can use other apps like textplus). That is the current setup that I have since I have no texting plan on my line.
Hope this helps,
caveman999
caveman999 said:
It is possible (and quite easy) to get SMS working over WiFi. If you have a google voice account, you can download the google voice app and use that to text people (or you can use other apps like textplus). That is the current setup that I have since I have no texting plan on my line.
Hope this helps,
caveman999
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Thanks for the reply. Google voice was one of those ways that I had read about already and for me it was not easy at all, and I could never get it to work. The last thing I read about setting that up was using le your home # for the Tab since it is not used for texting purposes...well, it didnt work for me. Maybe you could explain exactly how you set it up?
That app you mentioned I, I tried that a while back and my son told me he was flooded with advertisements...etc, so I dumped it.
Some help please....
Can't someone else give me some help here? This is driving me nuts. Why would using Google work for one and not for others? What could I be missing/doing that's possibly screwing it up?
Set up google voice and your wifi tab is ready to text. No extra ads or nothing like that.
leyvatron said:
Set up google voice and your wifi tab is ready to text. No extra ads or nothing like that.
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Thanks for the reply. I've already set up google voice but cannot get it to function properly. That's what I meant when I said in my previous post "Why would it work for one but not others, what could I be missing/doing wrong to screw it up". I have followed all of the instructions on google website, I've put in the # to be used for my device, google has verified it, I've downloaded the app for my SG Tab, but it will NOT WORK. Perhaps you could explain in detail how exactly you set it up? I really don't know what else to do.
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Thanks for the reply. I've already set up google voice but cannot get it to function properly. That's what I meant when I said in my previous post "Why would it work for one but not others, what could I be missing/doing wrong to screw it up". I have followed all of the instructions on google website, I've put in the # to be used for my device, google has verified it, I've downloaded the app for my SG Tab, but it will NOT WORK. Perhaps you could explain in detail how exactly you set it up? I really don't know what else to do.
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unfortunately, Google voice is currently for USA ONLY, are you from us?
fastcx said:
unfortunately, Google voice is currently for USA ONLY, are you from us?
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Yes, I'm in the good ole U.S. of A. What else do you think may be going on? Thanks for your reply.
What am I to do after this point if....
I'm to this point (see attachment) and I'm trying to set everything up "for texting only" and what I've read is "use your home phone #" because it is not used for texting...etc. Well, when I get to the point of what the attachment shows, what the heck do I do? It doesn't seem like I would be able to use my voice phone line to do this, and I cannot use the SGT as I have no dialer??????
Have you tried opening google in the browser via your Tab and useing the provided dialer in google? I use it on my PC as my PC has no dialer either. I will try with my tab and edit this post if it works or not.
I know it's not quite the same, but you could try using "Whatsapp" from the market if all parties have either android or iOS devices.
I just tried your suggestion, well..I at least got on the tab and went to GV site, but then I noticed voice had been activated without me following through at that point shown in the attachment. Now I have another problem. When I sent a text to the tab from my Evo, my home phone rang and Sprint sent what's called a TTLL (Text to Land Line) call....so that's screwed up. I used my tab to try it the other way, but cannot see any way to even send a text, not online at the voice site and not on the tab with the voice app. So it looks like I'm still stuck at not being able to get this going. Really frustrating..
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knightnz said:
I know it's not quite the same, but you could try using "Whatsapp" from the market if all parties have either android or iOS devices.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a go, and if it works, I think I can afford 2 dollars a year. I might just do that, thanks again.
EDIT: This won't work because it has to verify a number for your phone. The tab doesn't have a number.
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I'm to this point (see attachment) and I'm trying to set everything up "for texting only" and what I've read is "use your home phone #" because it is not used for texting...etc. Well, when I get to the point of what the attachment shows, what the heck do I do? It doesn't seem like I would be able to use my voice phone line to do this, and I cannot use the SGT as I have no dialer??????
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I have not used the setting "Forwad to Google Chat" and confirm that I'm able to send/receive text but I have my free phone number from IPKall and I'm able to send/receive text using GV account from the tab. Read the instruction in the Sprint VoIP call in Dev if you want to (find my post there).
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I have not used the setting "Forwad to Google Chat" and confirm that I'm able to send/receive text but I have my free phone number from IPKall and I'm able to send/receive text using GV account from the tab. Read the instruction in the Sprint VoIP call in Dev if you want to (find my post there).
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Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately this isnt working for me either. Im at the point of giving up now and just returning the damn Tab. I did all kinds of research on this prior to even buying the tab to at least try and make sure I could accomplish it. Most of what I found was "seemingly" possitive. Everyone makes it sound sooo damned easy to set it up and get it going, well its not, and I will go as far as saying that it isnt possible at all, for at least some, me being included in that latter bunch.
Sms was designed to be sent over cellular network and being associated with the phone number.
The number is also needed for GV. You might try Skype and get phone # and etc using it but its all far from comfortable. There are other services that might work as proxies for you but all cost some money.
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Sms was designed to be sent over cellular network and being associated with the phone number.
The number is also needed for GV. You might try Skype and get phone # and etc using it but its all far from comfortable. There are other services that might work as proxies for you but all cost some money.
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Thanks for the reply. I guess then that all of those posts that I've seen here, as well as all over the net, was just "bull". I say this only because of your comment about SMS being designed for cellular network, and only because these posts I'm talking about specifically say they got things up and running and are successfully texting on their SG Tabs via WiFi/Google Voice.
I suppose then that I should just forget about waiting for that WiFi only Tab because SMS would not work on that device either. I wouldn't mind spending some money to get this going, although I don't think that I would want to get into a contract or anything like that and be stuck spending on a monthly basis, which I think all of the Wirelss companies like Sprint make you do (not sure).
For SMS and voice phone on my Tmobile Tab I use prepaid voice only Sim. The tab was flashed with Euro ROM and works very smooth and giving me ability to place voice calls and send SMS if needed. It costs me money but no monthly obligations.
BTW, I can send Sms using Sim card from my phone as well.
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For SMS and voice phone on my Tmobile Tab I use prepaid voice only Sim. The tab was flashed with Euro ROM and works very smooth and giving me ability to place voice calls and send SMS if needed. It costs me money but no monthly obligations.
BTW, I can send Sms using Sim card from my phone as well.
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I guess I couldn't do anything like that correct? Is there a difference between T-Mobile and Sprint Tabs .... besides what may be the obvious, like I know Sprint is CDMA, not sure of T-Mobile. Anyway, do you think the same type of setup is possible with my Sprint device? If so, could you please describe how I would go about setting it up? Feel free to PM me if you like/want about this topic. Thanks