Hi there,
i have been around here since i got my X1 and got quite some info from these great forums. Now that the Hard SPL is out i wonder if it is possible to make a ROM of my current Phone state, like an Image with all working stuff that i can just reflash whenever stuff goes wrong / i dont like a custom Rom etc.
I simply dont want to reinstall everything when i do a hard reset for whatever reason.
Is there a way to do this for the X1 ?
toxical said:
Hi there,
i have been around here since i got my X1 and got quite some info from these great forums. Now that the Hard SPL is out i wonder if it is possible to make a ROM of my current Phone state, like an Image with all working stuff that i can just reflash whenever stuff goes wrong / i dont like a custom Rom etc.
I simply dont want to reinstall everything when i do a hard reset for whatever reason.
Is there a way to do this for the X1 ?
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Spb backup works really well and is easy to use. only 25usd. I think you can download a trial.
SPB Backup
does that also backup all installed applications/settings and stuff like that ?
toxical said:
does that also backup all installed applications/settings and stuff like that ?
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It backs up everything.
You can even choose a custom restore if you only want to restore your contacts or calendar.
thats great, thx for the tip, will definatly try and buy it
I've flashed my polaris.
I've installed my softwares and done my configs.
It's a beautiful setup now. (1)
I will change settings and try softwares, demos, tricks etc.
Something will go wrong and I'll want to go back to the beautiful setup.
Is there any way to freeze the (1) status?
A Rom backup or something like that?
yes, please use SPB beckup or other software
mmhhh!?!
demon-resident said:
yes, please use SPB beckup or other software
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Do you mean spb backup can store softwares other than settings?
I'd like to have a "Rom" to flash but not to cook that, simply config my polaris installing and setting up and then have a Rom Image to flash over further changes.
Well my dear friend - GOOD LUCK!
I have been myself looking for ages for what you need, and NADA.
The only thing I have found was SPB's clone, but it is too expensive.
Hope that you will find your answer, I wish I had something like that, so that I will able to test ROMs but come back to an all installed ROM which was working perfect.
The solution is only ONE !!
backup ..
Make a ROM Flash ..
Install all your software and configure PDA ..
make a full backup (use a software like SPB ..)
Restore..
Make a Hard Reset
Restore your Backup ..
BYE .. ANZI CIAO
Hi all,
I know this might be a bit silly, but i've loads of apps installed and i want to avoid having to reinstall all of them.
Is it possible to install a new ROM while keeping all your data and apps? If so is it advisable?
Cheers
Hi. U can use SPB Backup and do a full backup which will backup everything including phone settings preferences. Its great and i use it all the time.
rumz82 said:
Hi. U can use SPB Backup and do a full backup which will backup everything including phone settings preferences. Its great and i use it all the time.
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In my experience this method is not fool proof and does bring the possibility of registry and application association problems.
So do bear this in mind if you start to experience unexpected results.
bobtastic said:
Hi all,
I know this might be a bit silly, but i've loads of apps installed and i want to avoid having to reinstall all of them.
Is it possible to install a new ROM while keeping all your data and apps? If so is it advisable?
Cheers
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I use Silent_UC which re-installs/updates the newly flashed rom in several ways, which helps a lot. PIMBackup for contacts/text messages. CHTEditor for manilla links.
But is there one thing that does it all safely, the answer is no.
pa49 said:
In my experience this method is not fool proof and does bring the possibility of registry and application association problems.
So do bear this in mind if you start to experience unexpected results.
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I agree to a certain extent.Issues,if any, would be with certain tweaks such as manila/sense that do not work with all roms. It really is ROM dependant i guess. To tackle this issue in the past,what i did/do,is install certain tweaks or apps that are compatible with all ROMS and manila versions(after a fresh flash/reset)& do a full backup.This backup i like to call "basics". This includes phone settings aswell ie: Preferred ringtones, backlight settings etc. I then restore this backup each time i flash another rom,and its worked perfect for me so far. I then install other apps if want. Got to be honest,since i flash different roms often,i tend not to install alot of apps,only the ones i use regularly such as memmaid,resco explorer and the likes.
Sorry to go all long mate forgive me! just trying to explain my experience
Thank you all for your replies. I'll look into the back programs. Can't believe i didn't think of that!
Cheers!
Try Sashimi. A pretty nifty tool I found through the formums. It seems like a pretty complex tool, but seems like people who flash a lot, love it for keeping their apps intact after flashing.
Hi,
Got a question. I am installing and playing around with different ROM's. I am getting tired of setting my Vibrate and ring, my ring tone, Active Sync email settings, bookmarks you know all the ones you have to reset after you flash etc...
If I use PIMbackup will that do it for me? after I flash a different ROM or is there another way?
Thanks
richsark said:
Hi,
Got a question. I am installing and playing around with different ROM's. I am getting tired of setting my Vibrate and ring, my ring tone, Active Sync email settings, bookmarks you know all the ones you have to reset after you flash etc...
If I use PIMbackup will that do it for me? after I flash a different ROM or is there another way?
Thanks
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PIMBackup won't. I think SPB Backup has a ROM Upgrade feature, but I don't think even this will work where you switch ROMs because of the different OS builds etc...
the_scotsman said:
PIMBackup won't. I think SPB Backup has a ROM Upgrade feature, but I don't think even this will work where you switch ROMs because of the different OS builds etc...
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Ok, I can respect that. So if I stick with the same ROM then SPB backup will work? but not PIMBackup right
BTW... is SPB Backup Free?
Thanks
Yep, it should work if you stick with the same ROM. I don't think it's free, but it's not much...
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Yep, it should work if you stick with the same ROM. I don't think it's free, but it's not much...
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Ok, if that's the way, then I will invest in that app.
Thank you
Yes I can confirm...SPB Backup works great with the same ROM.
If I had a Custom ROM and all the applications installed and it works great...I made a backup. Then I can play around with a different ROM. Can go back if
I want the previous.
WORKS great !
Z900 said:
Yes I can confirm...SPB Backup works great with the same ROM.
If I had a Custom ROM and all the applications installed and it works great...I made a backup. Then I can play around with a different ROM. Can go back if
I want the previous.
WORKS great !
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Ok, so I can play with totally different ROM's and keep my settings regardless of a ROM used
richsark said:
Ok, so I can play with totally different ROM's and keep my settings regardless of a ROM used
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To a certain extent though. Sometimes, some mods that u install on a partiqular rom may not work with another rom.These would usually be something relating to manila/sense. Also,as mentioned above, it may give issues with different windows build. For instance,mods done on a windows 6.5rom may not work with a 6.5.x rom. But i guess its all about experimenting.
systems settings(ringtones,notifications) remain most of the times though!
i think this might sound oldskool but its the only way it will work as u wish.
1- backup all your pim data (use any backup software)
2- export all registry (HKCR,HKCU,HKLM) when ur device is fully configured as u like.
3- hard-reset (take out ur sdcard if u hv UC) : export all fresh registry again.
4- compare all reg keys & take note on differents > create a .reg file.
5- create a cab from reg key created on step 4.
6- include the cab created from step 5 in UC list, then hard reset again or reinstall all cabs manually.
but a backup software with upgrade/update feature is recommended tho.
Have a look at some software called Sashimi, or better still, put a search in Youtube and watch the tutorial, its a brilliant piece of software plus its free. I haven't completely got to grips with it, but so far i have managed to get it to install cabs to a certain directory, import customised reg's, set up my push mail, pop mail etc and import files including ring tones to a certain directory all with the click of a button. (obviously you have to set it all up first) . it will do more but i have not got that far yet. When you flash ROMS as often as i do, its a massive time saver, its definitely worth a look.
help..... how to dump my hd2 rom so I can flash it later. so everything stay the same and I don't have to install all cabs again and setting. I'm a noob, I'm also trying to find out how to make my own clock and icons. thanks
i don't think it is possible to back-up your current rom n settings.
corlygunnz said:
help..... how to dump my hd2 rom so I can flash it later. so everything stay the same and I don't have to install all cabs again and setting. I'm a noob, I'm also trying to find out how to make my own clock and icons. thanks
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Check the Energy ROM thread. There is some talk of it in post #5.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
i did it with my o2 rom just to see how to do it, but in all honesty i won't be doing it again. No point when the rom is available to download, and it doesnt save settings anyway. Ive posted teh how-to just because you asked about 'dumping the rom' so it will no doubt get hits from epople wanting to know how, and not just people like you wanting to backup, not dump.
dump the .raw partitions, reading step one in THIS first post will help.
Then set up ervius visual kitchen and use the 'raws2nbh' function to rebuild the raw files into the .nbh rom file.
BUT, it wont save your rom as it is now, with all your settings and such, it will only dump the rom as it was when you first ran the phone.
Far easier to just download the stock rom from somewhere.
Plus the rom you create even though it is stock will still be seen as a cooked rom by teh phone, so you would need hspl installed to flash it.
So, you need to look more into backup software, like sprite backup, PIm backup, or sashimi/makisu, or the like.
thanks very much. I guess I stick with backing up the settings and flashing the stock rom... thanks for the feedback again... ps: the point was to have the rom just how out was when dumped...
corlygunnz said:
thanks very much. I guess I stick with backing up the settings and flashing the stock rom... thanks for the feedback again... ps: the point was to have the rom just how out was when dumped...
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Yea, i know what you mean.
I found a cooked rom that i liked, and the chef also offered the kitchen with it. (which means i run the kitchen, press 'build' and fifteen minutes later the rom is created, ready to flash.)
Then, knowing i have a rom that i already like, i can start to make small adjustments. Progs that i normally have to reinstal every time i have converted to cookable packages, various registry tweaks that i used to instal from cab every time i have now cooked in.
A great way to get an easy intro into cooking, but because it's already built you aren't starting from a stock rom, facing weeks of tweaks. Instead i know i already like the rom, and i can slowly apply extra tweaks as i learn.
Look out for rom threads who offer 'comes with kitchen'.
ChuckyROM is the one that comes to mind, but there are others too.
I now have cookies home tab mod pre installed, and right from the start it has my layout, and all my quicklinks already there, as well as most of teh cabs i used to instal manually already built in, owner name pre set, home location/timezone etc etc all pre set, my own lockscreen, i've removed tons of unused images and language files, and such like.
My rom is down to around 145MB. (Stock is around 200MB+).
Best of all, i cooked in 'remotetracker', so if my phone gets stolen/lost, , even a hard reset wont stop it being trackable.
Fun stuff, if you dont mind spending a few hours at a time cooking/flashing/re-cooking/flashing/re-re-cooking, , , hehe
samsamuel said:
I now have cookies home tab mod pre installed, and right from the start it has my layout, and all my quicklinks already there, as well as most of teh cabs i used to instal manually already built in, owner name pre set, home location/timezone etc etc all pre set, my own lockscreen, i've removed tons of unused images and language files, and such like.
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how can I pre install, the layout and quick links on cookie too my rom, I'm a noob, I got this new rom I like and a want to tweak it, its going to be my first rom. can you or someone direct me to tutorials for cooking and tweaking.... I'm a quick learner. lol
corlygunnz said:
how can I pre install, the layout and quick links on cookie too my rom, I'm a noob, I got this new rom I like and a want to tweak it, its going to be my first rom. can you or someone direct me to tutorials for cooking and tweaking.... I'm a quick learner. lol
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well its not that simple. when a chef cooks the rom, it is usually protected, so you cant just dump a cooked rom. Thats why you have to get a pre built kitchen for that rom.
Sadly there is no simple step by step for all this.
THIS thread is for OSKitchen, which is pretty good, and fairly straightforward.
I suggest you just get a kitchen, dump a stock rom into it, and just have a look around it for a while first, so you get the idea of what you are facing.
Follow posts 1 - 4 and that should give you an evenings tinkering to get started.
Or there is ervius' visual kitchen, which isn't quite so straight forward, but works really well for me.
Reading HERE and HERE and HERE
and lots of reading in 'Chef Central'
However, to get immediate results, i found it far better to start with a pre built kitchen.
HERE is the one i first started to tinker with.
I gave up on kitchens a half dozen times in the past months, it just seems so overwhelming, which is why a ready made rom i could make minor tweaks to came in so handy.
thanks allot, I'm going to get to it right away. I'll post if I hit a wall.
how do i cook cooki home tab. is not working, is the anything i got to do?
corlygunnz said:
how do i cook cooki home tab. is not working, is the anything i got to do?
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convert it to an ext package, which will generate a folder with various files/subfiles, one of which is a reg file, edit that, add your registry entries (extracted from your currently running phone, using ceregistry editor ((if you dont already have them, immediately you finish reading this go get wincecab manager, ceregistry editor, and look up CAB_Converter too.)))
Use cab converter to change the cab into an ext.
as always, the best advice is to read everything, then read it again, hehe.
A working example.
connect your phone to usb, open ceregistry editor, click connect, browse to HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home There are 80 or so numbered folders, Thats for the quicklinks.
In the tree view on the left, right click the folder Home and choose 'export'. A file save dialog will open, call it something like home, OK. You should get something like '81 keys exported'
Now, browse to the folder where the converted cookies EXT is, find the file 'app.reg'. Double click to open it in ceregistry editor, you will see a similar registry view as you saw on the phone, except with loads less entries. Find HKLM\software\HTC\manila\Home, select the home folder, hit delete, confirm, its now gone.
Go to top of ceregistry editor - hit Edit - Import registry keys from file.
Now, by default it will be looking for .reg files, but we exported ours as .cereg, so change the filetype dropdown to 'all files'.
Find your 'home.cereg' file we exported, click it, you will get a 'sucessfully imported,....blahblah', hit save, and now, when you cook the rom, your quicklinks will already be there as soon as the phone first boots.
Use SPB backup
Use SPB backup. Works wonders. I have a backup for the 3 or 4 roms I run. So all I have to do is load the rom, load spb backup and restore the backup and all my settings, email accounts, facebook and the such is ready to go.
fhaines
fhaines said:
Use SPB backup. Works wonders. I have a backup for the 3 or 4 roms I run. So all I have to do is load the rom, load spb backup and restore the backup and all my settings, email accounts, facebook and the such is ready to go.
fhaines
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i just got me the spb backup, and is working great for me. thanks.
The simple solution here is SPB Backup...
EDIT: oops, jumped the gun. was already suggested. xD
glad you got it figured out
samsamuel said:
use the 'raws2nbh' function to rebuild the raw files into the .nbh rom file.
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This step is much more complicated than it sounds. Any possibility that you could include instructions for this?
Thanks!
ohiosux said:
This step is much more complicated than it sounds. Any possibility that you could include instructions for this?
Thanks!
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sure you want to bother? it wont save your settings as they are now, so you are essentially dumping the stock rom as it was when you got the phone (Assuming you're running a stock rom that is, if its a cooked rom it probably wont convert anyway)
All (most) of teh stock roms are available to download, so its an accademic task only, , , ,
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sure you want to bother? its an accademic task only, , , ,
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Actually, yes. I realize its redundant work, but I don't see how I could ever become a proper "chef" if I can't even manage to dump a ROM.
ohiosux said:
Actually, yes. I realize its redundant work, but I don't see how I could ever become a proper "chef" if I can't even manage to dump a ROM.
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hehe, well, ive only done it once, so you know as much as me, , get ervius vis kitchen (im sure other kitchens can do it too, just i use evk) click extra buttons, top left button is raws2nbh, follow the prompts.
You dont need to do this to cook, you know that? the kitchen will import a downloaded stock nbh, no need for the dump to get a kutchen working.