If you are trying to use VOIP on many phones you will notice that the audio comes out of the rear speaker. If your phone is based on OMAP and uses the TWL3016 baseband process (e.g. excalibur, herald, Pheobus) then I have a fix for you. This fix should work with Skype too.
It is a service that overrides settings inside the baseband processor by watching the registry value for the Speaker setting:
HKLM\System\State\Hardware\
Speaker
When it sees a change in the value of this key it will change the audio routing. This key is changed whenever the Speaker option is changed in the phone canvas.
Currently it will only take action when there is a change! This is important as the routing gets reset whenever the phone mode changes, whenever the media player runs and so on.
It also monitors a system wide named events "AUDIO_SPKON" and "AUDIO_SPKOFF". Kick either event and it will see it and make the change.
If anyone wants to write a home screen plugin then you simply need to add:
HANDLE hSpkOn = CreateEvent( NULL,0,0,L"AUDIO_SPKON")
...
SetEvent( hSpkOn );
...
If anybody is interested then post a reply and I will clean up the code and put it up (right now it still uses code from a larger project and needs parts trimming out).
Regards,
Silver
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CAB file automatically starts the service.
- The Source includes a Solution that builds all the pieces. Open with VS2005. You need the WM6 SDKs
- The CAB file install 2 exes in Program Files\AudioRouting. SpkOn and SpkOff i.e. Turn on and off the speaker.
that would be a sweet fix for fring. I tried using it once or twice, but i did not want the whole coffeeshop hearing my conversation. Have you gotten it to work with a bluetooth headset as well? that would be the greates thing!
will look forward to updates
Bluetooth Headset
If you turn off the speaker the audio will stop coming out of the speaker - but it may have side effects with BT. I have not tried anything with BT.
If it does not work I can certainly make it work.
One issue is detecting handsfree mode (this is another reg key under HKLM\System\State) then doing the right thing. If I find some time then I'll have a look.
Alternatively, it might just magically work. Certainly setup your call then try the SpkOff.exe.
Would this work on the wizard too?
ammarr said:
Would this work on the wizard too?
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I do not have one to test but it has an OMAP850 in there so I would think it likely that it would work.
TheSilverRing said:
If you are trying to use VOIP on many phones you will notice that the audio comes out of the rear speaker. If your phone is based on OMAP and uses the TWL3016 baseband process (e.g. excalibur, herald, Pheobus) then I have a fix for you. This fix should work with Skype too.
It is a service that overrides settings inside the baseband processor by watching the registry value for the Speaker setting:
HKLM\System\State\Hardware\
Speaker
When it sees a change in the value of this key it will change the audio routing. This key is changed whenever the Speaker option is changed in the phone canvas.
Currently it will only take action when there is a change! This is important as the routing gets reset whenever the phone mode changes, whenever the media player runs and so on.
It also monitors a system wide named events "AUDIO_SPKON" and "AUDIO_SPKOFF". Kick either event and it will see it and make the change.
If anyone wants to write a home screen plugin then you simply need to add:
HANDLE hSpkOn = CreateEvent( NULL,0,0,L"AUDIO_SPKON")
...
SetEvent( hSpkOn );
...
If anybody is interested then post a reply and I will clean up the code and put it up (right now it still uses code from a larger project and needs parts trimming out).
Regards,
Silver
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CAB file automatically starts the service.
- The Source includes a Solution that builds all the pieces. Open with VS2005. You need the WM6 SDKs
- The CAB file install 2 exes in Program Files\AudioRouting. SpkOn and SpkOff i.e. Turn on and off the speaker.
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Thanks a lot it is working wonderfully.
Any chance to have this program on TOUCH (OMAP 850 based)?
Cheers...
Kindly can you make a cab so this service starts automatically. Because first I have to make a call and then use the speaker off application to switch it to earphone.
tipu2185 said:
Kindly can you make a cab so this service starts automatically. Because first I have to make a call and then use the speaker off application to switch it to earphone.
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I have the same ROM and softphone as you
can you explain what are your settings in AGEphone and how do you toggle ?
two icons in AudioRouter folder looks like non executable files
whenever I press on them nothing indicates that change has been made
so I don't know if this did something or not, all in all I always have speakerphone in AGEphone, not the internal one
jazzzy said:
I have the same ROM and softphone as you
can you explain what are your settings in AGEphone and how do you toggle ?
two icons in AudioRouter folder looks like non executable files
whenever I press on them nothing indicates that change has been made
so I don't know if this did something or not, all in all I always have speakerphone in AGEphone, not the internal one
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Well, it works like this that first you have to start some voice stream i.e. voice call or music player once the voice start coming through your phone's speaker then you should execute the speaker off application and it will start coming from your earphone rather than speaker. Nothing automatic. I hope we get a solution that as voice switches to speaker that change should be detected and routed back to earphone. so lets see if the person who posted it replies.
tipu2185 said:
then you should execute the speaker off application and it will start coming from your earphone rather than speaker.
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that's what I'm doing however as I stated, nothing indicates execution, no busy icon or something like that so I suspect that it doesn't launch
jazzzy said:
that's what I'm doing however as I stated, nothing indicates execution, no busy icon or something like that so I suspect that it doesn't launch
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Apperantly nothing appears thats true but if you keep your music player opened and a song is playing then you will notice that it stops coming from speaker and is routed to earphone.
well it turns out that it sometimes just does not work and reinstall is required however
right now this app is unusable for voip because I have to turn speaker off after connection is made
and not having "alt-tab" requires me to do a lot of clicking just to press speaker off and come back to voip softphone
which in the end takes "huge" amount of time while caller is waiting
jazzzy said:
well it turns out that it sometimes just does not work and reinstall is required however
right now this app is unusable for voip because I have to turn speaker off after connection is made
and not having "alt-tab" requires me to do a lot of clicking just to press speaker off and come back to voip softphone
which in the end takes "huge" amount of time while caller is waiting
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Sorry been very busy of late.
You should just have to hit the speakerphone button during the call rather than going to the speaker off (you may have to do it twice).
One issue is that the phone *always* resets the audio path, so the service needs to always set it back, at least when speakerphone mode is not enable.
I actually have code in place to do this automatically now, but I will need to strip out a bunch of code before posting. I'll try to get to that in the next few hours.
Actually this code is a special case for our application and will nto work in the general case. Yet.
tipu2185 said:
Well, it works like this that first you have to start some voice stream i.e. voice call or music player once the voice start coming through your phone's speaker then you should execute the speaker off application and it will start coming from your earphone rather than speaker. Nothing automatic. I hope we get a solution that as voice switches to speaker that change should be detected and routed back to earphone. so lets see if the person who posted it replies.
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It is not possible to know when a call on any random VOIP device. Take for instane Skype - how is it possible to figure out that a skype call is now active?
The TAPI interface allows cellular calls to be detected, but as cellular calls are not the problem then this is no help.
TAPI may allow detection of a call over MS VOIP though, bymonitoring the registry in the right place.
This is the crux of the problem - I am looking though!
I assume this one is not working on a S730, because it has no OMAP processor ?
buggers999 said:
I assume this one is not working on a S730, because it has no OMAP processor ?
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That is Correct.
TheSilverRing said:
That is Correct.
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While unfortunate for me , I am glad that someone solved this long lingering problem for the older devices.
Is there any similar solution for MSM7200 based phones (TyTN II (Kaiser)) ?
Why earpice sound volume is very low ?
Related
I have a working piece of soft:
[edit] Funny, their sire reads:
http://1800message.com/
CONFIDENTIAL, NOT FOR PUBLIC DISPLAY. DEMO SITE ONLY.
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http://1800message.com/SPWM5CallRec.cab
http://king-bg.info/Temp/c500/soft/SPWM5CallRec.cab
It works, I have this to say:
1. I placed a shortcut to it in my STARTUP so it starts upon bootup, do you have any idea how I can make it start MINIMIZED?
2. As with all similar programs, the other party sound is with lower volume, but still can hear it
3. Records are in some internal format and can be played only with this program
Other the that I like it and it can be useful to you
Also note that in your country it may be illegal to record the conversations.
I use it mainly when someone call me with directions to some place ot phone numbers and so..
Something seems kinda fishy here, I highly doubt a company would post anything "highly confidential" and "not for public display" on PUBLIC INTERNET. Anyone else try this program? Seems like it could contain some malware/virus etc..
MilanoRex said:
Something seems kinda fishy here, I highly doubt a company would post anything "highly confidential" and "not for public display" on PUBLIC INTERNET. Anyone else try this program? Seems like it could contain some malware/virus etc..
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I don't know what it is but it works on my PPC
do a google and it will pop-up on several other forums.
Well sounds fishy for me too...
Anyone else tried it?
this program only works if you have your speaker loud enough for your microphone to pick up the sound from it. I talked to their tech support last month and it went something like this.
> i've been playing around with pmvault and pm recorder on an htc wizard
> phone. Vault works flawlessly and is so convenient. Recorder doesn't
> record incoming audio though. My voice can be heard fine, but not the
> person I'm talking to. I know that the wizard devices are pocket pcs and
> not smartphones, but WM5 for ppc is supposed to run programs for both. Any
> thoughts on it?
>
The Wizard does not support the dual audio path. the HTC Tornado and Cingular 2125 both support it, but the PPC Wizard does not. Sorry about that. It is a hardware limitation on the device.
as already has been said,
the wizard will only record the audio picked up by the microphone,
if the speaker is loud enough the sound is picked up.
You may also want to read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1 on this subject - it gives a nice overview of what you can expect from PPC PE devices and what applications there're to (even automatically) record phone calls.
from my understanding it must be possible to access the incoming GSM audio stream - somehow it must be handed over to the CE-side, as the bluetooth driver also gets that stream - or did I get it wrong??? *confused*
Mamaich says that the GSM audio is wired directly into the bluetooth hardware.
V
vijay555 said:
Mamaich says that the GSM audio is wired directly into the bluetooth hardware.
V
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so does that mean it is also not possible to record a phone call if you are using a BT headset?
Or a little bluetooth device that does the recording? ...
Having installed SJPhone 3.20b for Windows Mobile 5.0 (download from: http://www.sjphone.org/preview/ce/) I experienced very choppy inbound audio.
The solution is changing SJPhone's advanced audio settings as follows:
buffer size: 80 ms
input queue length: 10
output queue length: 5
RTP jitter queue length: 5
Audio quality through WLAN is quite okay now. As soon I'm in a place with 3G coverage I'll try to place a VoIP call over 3G, if O2 Germany hasn't blocked VoIP ports yet.
I am getting better resutls with these settings:
Driver buffer size, msec: 100
Driver input queue length: 10
Driver output queue length: 10
RTP jitter queue length: 32
Btw, x-lite ce 1.01 has better quality than SJphone, at least on my TyTN, download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58154
Also, calls must be done using the USB headset otherwise you get horrybly echo.
I do have the sound coming from the rear speaker...is that what you have?
Further, the sound with SJphone is absolutely horrible...whatever the audio settings....
I tried X-lite..gives same effects...
It s really unusable.
When I call the same correspondant with my PC, it s seemless..
Any clues?
Thx
use the usb headset
No sound...
Hi. I am using HTC X01HT (Softbank) which is supposed to be equivalent to TyTN. I installed SJphone but for some reason no sound is coming. Seemingly, even though I don't hear any sound, the recipient phone is normally ringing. Of course, even if the recipient picks up the phone, still silence on both sides. Any solution? Thank you in advance.
Check your SIP and NAT settings. You'll have problems if your internet connection or the voip server you are connecting to are behind a NAT.
You should use a STUN-server!
@Poof
Hi Poof,
Sorry for the trivial question but I geuss that answer isn't that obvious as it seems. YOu've mentioned that you're using X-Lite with some specific settings. I've downloaded the software using the link you had provided. I did manage to specify the SIP proxy and other SIP related settings during the first run of X-Light.
My question is: HOW DO YOU CHANGE OTHER SETTINGS? In case I need to change SIP IP HOW DO I DO THAT? I didn't succeed with finding searate file responsible for configuration nor I cold find settings changes option in the application itself.
I'd appreciate if you could advice me on these mattares.
TyTN and SJPhone
Hi,
I get horrible sound delays with SJPhone + TyTN. I tried all the settings from this forum and many others and although the sound quality seems OK (I didn't see any significant improvement because of the USB headsed) the delay is 2 to 3 times bigger (up to 1.5-2 s) than on my Wizard.
Please let me know if the above mentioned settings don't give you any delay. If there's no delay, could you please let me know the ROM (and any possible improvements) that you're using?
Please follow this thread also for news:
http://forum.labs.softjoys.com/viewtopic.php?t=409&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
As for the X-Lite application - I get also delays and bad sound quality. As for its interface - it makes you go nuts, and even more. I never managed to find out how to change the settings for one SIP-account. (through the registry ? this is a joke, right?) Even the PC version is made as if that guy wanted to make a patience testing quiz, not a softphone.
Thank you all.
USB headset
It seems it has something to do wih the USB headset. If I use it - SJPhone gets stuck. If I don't use it - SJPhone runs fine and even the sound quality is acceptable
realn said:
Hi,
I get horrible sound delays with SJPhone + TyTN. I tried all the settings from this forum and many others and although the sound quality seems OK (I didn't see any significant improvement because of the USB headsed) the delay is 2 to 3 times bigger (up to 1.5-2 s) than on my Wizard.
Please let me know if the above mentioned settings don't give you any delay. If there's no delay, could you please let me know the ROM (and any possible improvements) that you're using?
Please follow this thread also for news:
http://forum.labs.softjoys.com/viewtopic.php?t=409&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
As for the X-Lite application - I get also delays and bad sound quality. As for its interface - it makes you go nuts, and even more. I never managed to find out how to change the settings for one SIP-account. (through the registry ? this is a joke, right?) Even the PC version is made as if that guy wanted to make a patience testing quiz, not a softphone.
Thank you all.
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You can change the settings in the X-Lite app by dialing *311 and *611, these take you to the settings pages. I have however not been able to connect to the network in any way, perhaps you can shed light on the right settings, pof? I am using a voipstunt account, but I have no idea what settings I should use to get a connection to the internet. I have entered the voipstunt settings I found on their website and my account data, but for some reason the app wil not connect.
edit: For some reason when dialing a fixed line phone numer, the Caller is is displayed on the screen as the whole phone numer followed by @voipstunt.com, e.g [email protected]. It looks like the app is trying to reach a voipstunt subsciber instead of a fixed line. How did you get this to work pof? The app keeps trying for a while and then reports Call failed: 480, temporarily not available.
edit 2: Duh, I really have to learn to try more before I post here. I think that by editting the right options and using it over 3G instead of AS I have been able to connect. I cannot try any calls however, none of my contacts with fixed lines appears to be home at the moment (Or they are refusing my calls, also a likely possibility)
Really annoying though is that the app does not sound the waiting tone when it is calling a no., so you have no idea wether or not it is dialing or the connection is just not being made.
I've just installed the latest sjphone beta for ce, to use with fwd. I can't find where to change the advanced audio options. In fact the only audio control I can find is the audio wizard. Can anyoine help me.
In addition my usb headphones long since stopped working, would sound and mic be better with a bluetooth headset (in my case the itech r35) or through the phone itself?
Currently audio is unuseable using the phone, and apparently not working at all with the bluetooth headset.
Your assistance appreciated.
Hi,
i can't use the BTAudioToogle Tool for my XDA trion.
Someone the same problem ?
or better:
Someone with a solution here ?
Same for me. I have enabled BTaudiotoggle, I can hear the headset (Motorola HS850) go live but the audio either from WM player or TCMP still comes from the speaker and not the headset.
Hope someone comes up with the answer soon.
Rob
Got the same problem. No sound from BT.
Had something similiar to this with my old unit, to fully enable it I would hit the headset button (which now starts up voice command, let it time out, and then play whatever music i wanted to. I would verify that now but i am at work, and don't think they would appreciate the music blaring if i am wrong on this one
When I hit the button on the headset, it starts the Voice Dialer, the audio cuts in for a second or two, then drops back to the device speaker.
It nearly works, hope someone can hack this soon, just whats needed for podcasts and the like. No good for music tho!
Rob
I would also be very interested in a solution to this problem as I used to use BTaudiotoggle to listen to Tomtom commands in the car (normally have the music too loud to hear the commands through the loudspeaker ).
Worked great with my XDA Mini S but doesn't work with my new MDA Vario II and I didn't really want to have to buy stereo headphones, just wanted to be able to use my standard mono bluetooth headset like before.
If there is no way of using this program, are there any other programs that will send all audio to a mono BT Headset?
yep would really like an updated version of BTaudio too so i can listen to some audio books via my mono headset
You should test the trial version of bluemusic from teksoftco.
www.teksoftco.com . It gives ou a full help file on how to use the software and you have 30 sec to test that it working. I know that it works on the devices having TI Omap processors so it should work for all of you guys.
Cheers,
Raul
Just tried it out. It does the same thing that the other sotware does, mainly enable the headset where you can hear a hiss out of it, but still kees playing out of the back speaker.
My experience is a rassah's. All the Bluemusic software appears to do on my Vario II is cause the bluetooth headset to hiss slightly (whilst sound is still blasted out of the phone's speaker).
Also FWIW the teksoftco site doesn't appear to work too well on the PIE browser - defaulting to a no frames version with just a login box as far as I can see.
Needless to say I have uninstalled the software again.
Rufus.
@RufusA and @rassah guys you should check if you don't have the same problem as ulischultz in this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61739
We already tested the software with him on his treo device and as you can see in the thread " after pressing the button on the headset, the sound was redirected". This is mentioned in the help section of the software. ( on the universal/exec for example this step is not needed)
@RufusA - thanks for visiting the ppc version of the webpage (which is still under construction) - even though the subject is irelevant in this topic. I will send you a PM when its finished and tell me your opinion then (even though you have to admit that not many companies have a ppc version of their website - not to mention the smaller ones like ours).
If the problem still persists there is an opened thread on the forum :
http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=162
Please submit all the malfunctionality and we will fix them.
Cheers,
rain
I downloaded the trial too and had the same problem as before unfortunately.
I did get a little further in so much as, if I pressed the call button on my BT Headset as per the instructions, I could get the music/audio transferred to the headset for approx. 5 seconds but then it would revert back to the phones loudspeaker. I couldn't get the 30 seconds that the trial software advertises
Fingers crossed someone will be able to work out a fix for this soon.
Thanks Nicky for the input. As i see the problem of bt headset being disconnected after 5-10 sec is a general one (and unfortunatelly is a problem in the RUU). We are trying to find a workarround with ulischultz but wouldn't want to get to driver level as clearly it will be fixed by HTC in the next RUU release if they don't want this devices smashed to their heads.
I will keep you updated if we find a solution for the interrupt issue.
Regards,
Raul
Solution
I have identified a solution to this which is working nearly perfectly for me. However, if you do use this then using the BT headset to trigger the voice dial/voice command/voice commander will no longer work.
Acquire a copy of of the BTAudioToggle software inc. BTAudioOn.exe
Copy this to a location on the phone.
Using a registry editor amend the following entries from
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
Path = location of BTAudioOn.Exe
e.g. Path = \Program Files\BTAudio\BTAudioOn.Exe
VoiceCmdDuration = 86400 (DEC) = 24 hours
This says for how long (in seconds) the audio will be passed to the headset for before timing out.
This however, will timeout earlier if no audio is coming through. I am not sure what will happen if something like TomTom is running but not speaking for a while. I have not performed timings as yet.
To activate audio through headset, press the main control button of the headset as if answering call/activating voice command etc. To deactivate, just press the button again.
Voice control apps will still work, but must be triggered from the phone itself, but voice will be picked up by the BT headset.
There appear to be some small bugs with this, such as after a phone call, using headset or not, the audio will stop being passed after hangup.
Please let me know if this work for you!
Looks an interesting solution. I've installed BTAudioOn on my storage card, and changed the VoiceCommand Path entry.
However I couldn't find a VoiceCmdDuraion entry under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
so I've added a new DWord of that name with the value 86400.
Yet this doesn't appear to have made a significant difference i.e. Pressing talk button on Jabra headset produces 10 secs of sound before "timing" out.
Have I made a mistake, or do I need to have something else installed to get this to work?
TIA - Rufus.
I was going to try and make the suggested changes to the registry but I don't know how and am not sure what program I need to do it.
Could someone please let me know what program I need to install to be able to change the registry?
Thanks
Vs1979:
IT REALLY WORKS!!!!!!!!!
I can't tell you how happy I am!!!!
I did it the way you described it. However I also did not have an entry "VoiceCmdDuration" I created the DWORD-entry and it works now!
Great!
Thanks very much for that great solution!
@RufusA
As i gave you the link to the other thread you're not the only user experiencing this. There are several others complaining about this RUU bug.
@Nicky
You need to install a ppc 2005 regeditor (for example Resco Explorer has one built in, or you can find one on buzzdev site).
RufusA said:
Looks an interesting solution. I've installed BTAudioOn on my storage card, and changed the VoiceCommand Path entry.
However I couldn't find a VoiceCmdDuraion entry under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
so I've added a new DWord of that name with the value 86400.
Yet this doesn't appear to have made a significant difference i.e. Pressing talk button on Jabra headset produces 10 secs of sound before "timing" out.
Have I made a mistake, or do I need to have something else installed to get this to work?
TIA - Rufus.
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Hi,
Did you Soft reset your device?
I made the registry change only, have not installed BTAudioOn and all my Voice command Audio etc... now comes through the headset and does not time out after a few seconds. I did find though that decreasing this value to lets say 60, would actually time the audio feed out even if not in use so I have stuck in a huge figure, will still need to do more testing to see if drains the battery any quicker and see if I can find another stirng which will do more for me.
Hi,
it work not for me
i have changed the path to \xx\BTAudioOn.EXE
i have add the VoiceDuration = 86400 (DWord DEC)
but it is the same problem, after 2 seconds the sound goes back to PPC.
Apologies if this is an FAQ, but I've had a quick look and drawn a blank.
I've just got my first Windows mobile phone (Vario II) and one of the things I really miss compared to my old Nokia, is that when I connect my bluetooth headset, I'd like the phone to switch to 'auto answer' and for the volume to be set to max. When I disconnect the headset, I'd like the phone to refert to a 'normal' or 'general' profile.
I require this because I use it on a motorcycle in conjunction with an intercom system, and I need the phone to auto answer after say 2 rings.
Is this possible on a smartphone?
Regards,
Glenn
Join the club mate......
I've been using the Vario2 in combination with a Nolan N-102 with the N-comm BT kit on it.....
I've been #$^&# with it for weeks now and I've made some progression...
First you need a program that allows you to select profiles like Nokia used to have...
I use PocketzenPhone but maybe there are some other(better) programs to do that.....
So then u can swith to a bike profile I've made and enable auto answer....
I've run the cab file to redirect BT sounds to my helmet in stereo (floats somewhere on this forum)
The only thing I can't do at the moment is enable Voicedial from the helmet...
If I press the button designed to start it ........f%ck all happens....
Still working on that but I'm running out of ideas....so any help would be appreciated...
Danny.
Pdanny said:
Join the club mate......
I've been using the Vario2 in combination with a Nolan N-102 with the N-comm BT kit on it.....
I've been #$^&# with it for weeks now and I've made some progression...
First you need a program that allows you to select profiles like Nokia used to have...
I use PocketzenPhone but maybe there are some other(better) programs to do that.....
So then u can swith to a bike profile I've made and enable auto answer....
I've run the cab file to redirect BT sounds to my helmet in stereo (floats somewhere on this forum)
The only thing I can't do at the moment is enable Voicedial from the helmet...
If I press the button designed to start it ........f%ck all happens....
Still working on that but I'm running out of ideas....so any help would be appreciated...
Danny.
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Hi, the reason you can't activate voice dialing from your headset might be to do with the BT Audio cab you have installed to redirect sound through your headset. If the cab you have installed is the most common one floating around then this actually disables the launch of voice dialing in favour of being able to toggle between sound in the headset and sound on the phone (pressing and holding down the call button for a few seconds on your headset normally).
If you look in the registry HKLM>software>OEM>voicecommand, if launchapenable has a value of 0 then it is disabled. You can enable it again by changing the value to 1 but this will mean that your headset button will now not work as an audio toggle feature because it will launch the voicedial software every time.
Not sure if this is the answer to your problem but it sounds like it might be, hope this helps
Am trying as we speak....thanks for the reply....see wat happens...
D.
Well.....Ive got good news and bad news....
The good news is that I can trigger voicecommand now......
The bad news is that MS voice command 1.6 is not reconizing my accent...(dutch)...
So out of 10 tries it never called the number i wanted.....
So I tried the build in SDdialer.....and that one is doing a better job....
However I can't make the sounds to stick in my helmet........
I mean...
With MSVC by pressing the button on the helmet I could redirect the sound to the helmet and get a voicecommand tone at the same time....
By symply not speaking or saying '"cancel" it would cancel the voicecommand but the sound stayed in the helmet.....
With SDdialer following the same steps as above the sounds does not stay in the helmet but goes back to the speaker......
Any ideas????
BTW is there a dutch version of MS voice command?
If you go back into the registry, in the same location as before, check the value that is in VoiceCmdDuration (This is the amount of time the voice prompt stays active for in seconds) .. the audio cab file usually sets this to 86400 (24 hrs in seconds), if yours is low eg. 10, 20, 30 etc.., set it to 86400 and that may sort out the problem.
Duration is set fort 24 hrs....already..
Funny thing is that MSVC is not cutting out and the sddialer is...
Regsetting stay the same.....
By pressing the button on helmet I just change the exe file.....
Only option is to try and get MsVC to work and get use to my voice....
D.
Hmmm booking slow process.....tryed to call with MsVC and now 2 out 2....
Ordered to play media from helmet......worked..
This is only sitting in the livingroom with helmet on.....looks absolutely silly but thats besides the point
P$ssing with rain here so hoping for better weather to go for a roadtest...
So thing needed for me to get it to work...
-MsVC 1.6
-Bluetooth stereo cab
-Regedit from the MsVC topic..
-PocketzenPhone for designing profiles.....however thinking on removing that...and see how that works.....
D.
I am glad that you are at least part way there to solving the problem
I don't have Voice Command on my phone. On the rare occasion I use voice dialling I use the standard SDdialer program but my sound diversion does not revert back to the handset like yours.
I must have changed something on it to get it working but I am afraid I don't know what because, when I was trying to get it working, I tried absolutely everything and it was quite a while ago now so I have forgotten what I did
It sounds like Voice Command is going to be okay for you though so that is good.
By the way, Phonealarm is also another good profile switching program.
Thanks for the replies guys, but I think I may have accidentally discovered my own solution.
On my T-mobile vario II, if I go to the Phone->Settings and select the 'more' tab (need to scroll along the last tab at the bottom of the screen) there is an option to 'Automatic pickup' which will auto answer a call after x number of rings.
I had always assumed this would kick-in even if no headset was present. However, I've just done some simple testing, and it looks like the auto answer only kicks-in if the phone is currently in comms with a headset (I used a bluetooth one but probably the same for the supplied 'hands free' kit).
So this functions exactly as I want it to.
Oh, and Pdanny, for background info I'm using a Nolan 101 (no bluetooth) with speakers and mic installed. These connect to my 'Starcom' intercom (via an old fasioned curly lead) which allows me to hear directions from my 'TomTom' and also take phone calls via the starcom/phone bluetooth partnership. Down side is that the wife can also talk at me .
As I never want to initiate a call while riding, this setup works just perfect for me. I don't need to remember to change the phone setup either before or after mounting the bike. As soon as the bike ignition is turned on, the intercom partners with the phone. Then if I receive a call, it auto answers and I can take the call. Once the ignition is switched off, the phone reverts to normal non-auto answer.
In my research for this issue I came across an app called 'phonealarm' (from pocketmax.net), it was the manual for this that made me try the above experiment. This looks like a neat app and I may still end up installing it as long as it does not hog the processor.
[edit]OOps sorry Nicky, just noticed you already mentioned phonealarm. I'd be interested in any comments you have about this app, good ot bad [/edit]
Once again, thanks for the replies, and I hope this thread helps someone in the future.
Regards,
Glenn
Phonealarm......give that a try thanks.....
Im also going to test with the buils in auto pick up.....
I knew it was there but i assumed that it would ALWAYS auto pick up...
It seems that that is not the case therefore making the Pocketzenphone and possibly phonealarm obsolete.....
I also get all the sounds over BT in my helmet....incl TT
Also... I don't have a wife .......sounds like a perfect world hey???
Keep you posted on the outcome of the xperiment....
Grtz
Danny
Hi knnelg, glad you managed to sort your problem. I always knew the option for autoanswer was in the settings but like you, I had assumed that it would autoanswer all calls regardless of whether a headset was connected so it is handy to know that it only applies when in headset mode.
You asked about opinions on Phonealarm, I think it is a great program. I have used it on my Vario II and my last phone, an XDA Mini S, and it is has always worked fine, no problems at all.
I really missed having phone profiles when I switched to PDA style phones so Phonealarm was one of the first 3rd party apps I ever bought and I wouldn't be without it now Also, Bruce, the developer of phonealarm, is very good at listening to users input and if enough people make a suggestion about an improvement or tweak to the program, he will implement it in future versions which is really nice.
One of the other programs Pocketmax does, Alarmtoday, is useful too.
Hi,
I am currently looking for a piece of software that will do a specific job, or possibly a better solution to what I am trying to do. Let me give you a little bit of background...
I have got an O2 XDA Mini S, and a Parrot hands-free kit that does not support the A2DP bluetooth profile (only the handsfree profile). I am currently using TomTom 6 on my XDA with a bluetooth GPS unit. Everything works really nicely together, except I cannot get instructions from TomTom through my parrot (which is ultimately my goal).
The only way I can see of getting the TT instructions through my Parrot is to make use of the programs floating about that allow you to turn on and off redirection of sound through bluetooth. The idea I had was that if there was a program about (or maybe even write something myself) that would be able to signal when the sound coming out of the XDA exceeded and then dropped back below a threshold level, and then somehow link that into the bluetooth redirection programs, I could basically have any sound that is produced go through the Parrot only when they occur (including obviously the TT instructions).
Does anybody have any ideas on this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Point UI, a UI wrapper, has a feature similar to what you're describing. It's used just to save battery power by turning on BT only when an incoming call is detected, and then killing BT after the call is ended. I don't know if it's open source, but you might want to head over to their forums and see if you can find out how they did it.
You probably also want to haunt any TomTom forum sites (if any even exist).
As a final option, look into Mortscripts. People have done amazing tricks with Mortscripts, and this might be just the ticket. Mort haunts these boards, and may pipe in with an "I can (or cannot) do that with Mortscript" too...
I have a question, though. What's wrong with using the Wizard's built-in speakers for getting directions?
Myrddin Wyllt said:
I have a question, though. What's wrong with using the Wizard's built-in speakers for getting directions?
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To be honest, it's not too bad through the speakers although if I have my radio on which I usually do, sometimes it can be a little bit hard to hear, and it would be nice to just have the radio mute while it gives me the directions.
It's more of a "want" than a "need" really.
Thanks very much for the info
Myrddin Wyllt said:
Point UI, a UI wrapper, has a feature similar to what you're describing. It's used just to save battery power by turning on BT only when an incoming call is detected, and then killing BT after the call is ended. I don't know if it's open source, but you might want to head over to their forums and see if you can find out how they did it.
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It is quite easy for programs to detect when you're in a call - MortScript, I presume, probably can detect that quite easily as it's an overall Windows feature and will probably have a readily available part in the API.
The problem is not with turning the bluetooth on and off, it's actually detecting when TomTom is giving an instruction. To be honest I think I'll look into MortScript and if that can't do it then I'll probably just give up.
Detecting phone calls isn't that easy, and it's especially not easy to make a check in a simple procedural script language like MortScript (up to WM5, there's no way to check whether a call is active, you have to monitor all the time if a call is accepted or hung up).
Detecting sound output of another application is entirely impossible - at least for most applications. If the app opens the output channel only during output (which most don't because it takes valuable time and causes ugly "click" noises on some devices), one could maybe query the number of free output channels - but that would need a CPU hog monitoring all the time, or half of the message would be over until it's detected.
And even if that would work, there's simply no way to redirect output to a BT headset (except with A2DP). At least on most devices. Once there was a simple way to do that (you just had to open a virtual port, and as long as it's open, everything was redirected similar to the A2DP way nowadays), but most manufacturers didn't implement it, and nowadays it seems like no modern device supports it anymore. (Had it for test purposes in a MortPlayer beta, no user reported it works...)
So, to put it short: Currently it's impossble. Maybe WM8 might change that... (Few hope for WM7, it's proposed to have the same kernel as WM5 and WM6.x)