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Has anyone thought of/already produced a small Slide to Unlock bar that could be used as a today plugin for your home screen? That would be the bomb! Anyone agree or heard of something already? I know of S2U2 but that is more of a screen saver... could be a "slide to lock" and then "slide to unlock" type deal. Anyone feel me on this?
Some people have discussed a "transparent" S2U type of app. The PointUI guys said they may try to add that to their app at some point. THat's the closest thing that's been considered...
yeah :/ hopefully someone comes out w/ it soon, would rather it be independent from pointui...
That's a neat idea.
I"m having a hard time making s2u2 actually be useful for me, because i really want to use it. but i dont want to use the native lock function either, and the batterystatus locking functionality is boring! i want to sliiiiiiiiiiiide
yeah! i hope someone on this board with any type of programming experience picks this idea up, i'd be more than willing to work with them on the gui for it, if it is at all even possible.
bump... i refuse to let this idea die!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357415
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yes i read through that but it isn't quite what i was inquiring about... hopefully that developer can cook something up
great idea would love to use
If there be a nice Graphic today >> Slide to Lock (instead of Lock) and call S2U2 would be very nice
if you're using ftouchflo, setup the left->right action to run S2U2. I find that to be a better solution so I can easily lock my phone no matter what screen I'm on and save my precious today screen space...
Nah, Personally, i'd prefer just an lock/unlock slider sitting on Today screen, so that i can see my Batterystatus and TodayAgenda all the time. The fact that S2U2 covers the Today screen (and my events/tasks with it) is the only thing that keeps me from using it.
What i would expect from such a plugin is the simplicity, ability to skin it, and customize its size.
someone please produce this, maybe we can get a paypal going for the author? i'd pay a few bucks for it forsure.
this is what your looking for...
for some reason this wouldn't come up in the xda search, had to do it directly in google... but this is what your after
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376257
I ran across this, not exactly sure where, but it's sick man:
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
It should be perfectly compatible with the HD because it does indeed have an ambient light sensor and obviously an accelerometer.
Check out the videos:
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/demo.aspx
It's pretty damn nice.
I think it will make a great add-on to a beautiful phone, it does cost $10.90, but as far as I can tell it's well worth it.
Give it look!
On the Touch HD you now have to slide to pick up the phone. So I really don't see why we should use this app. It will be handy for the Diamond or Pro.
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On the Touch HD you now have to slide to pick up the phone. So I really don't see why we should use this app. It will be handy for the Diamond or Pro.
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But what about announcements? Fpr example SMS alert, notification alert etc.. Do you have to slide also to unlock the Device in those cases?
Hi!
I'm still struggeling to find the right way to lock the phone. The ideal solution would be to:
1) Have the phone unlocked when I switch it on with the Power button (so that I can immediately use it after deliberately turning it on)
2) Have the phone automatically locked when it wakes up due to a phone call, SMS or warning, etc. (so that I don't press anything by accident when it is in my pocket).
This seems to be the only really logical way to use device lock. Obviously, PocketShield can not do that, neither can S2Us or any other locking app I've tried...
Regards!
I had it installed, but removed it quite quickly again. For some reason, it did not suit me. I did not see any use of the lightsensor and shaking it to unlock was impossible...
All it added for me was a slide to unlock, for which there are other progs. It also replaceed the default slide to anwser, without enabling it myself...
I am sticking with the default lock or the s2u prog...
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On the Touch HD you now have to slide to pick up the phone. So I really don't see why we should use this app. It will be handy for the Diamond or Pro.
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As a matter of interest, where in the manual is that documented.
I tried a search but could not find it.
Beards
Try this for locking the Phone correctly.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447198
Version 2.5
A new version 2.5 with lots of improvements is available http://www.pocketshield.net/phorum/read.php?1,1224
Hell yeah, S2U2 is cool, because it's as an iPhone, but it's laggy and it cost too much battery even HTC closed...
So, as i appreciate the way to unlock it, i found this program : http://www.throttlelauncher.com/downloads/files/ThrottleLock0.4.CAB
It's more than a simply unlocker, as you can create a pattern which look like a password, but you also can simply define as pattern the 3 downs buttons from left to right, and it's like S2U, without lag (and yeah without the iPhone trademark ) !
Here are some screenshot : http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/downloads/34-public-releases/87-throttle-lock-04
Enjoy it
I'd be interested in anyone's opinion on this.
I like S2U2, I don't find it drains my battery too much, I like the extra info it displays about next appointments and tasks etc.
Does this locking system show that kind of information too?
Zepiii said:
Hell yeah, S2U2 is cool, because it's as an iPhone, but it's laggy and it cost too much battery even HTC closed...
So, as i appreciate the way to unlock it, i found this program : http://www.throttlelauncher.com/downloads/files/ThrottleLock0.4.CAB
It's more than a simply unlocker, as you can create a pattern which look like a password, but you also can simply define as pattern the 3 downs buttons from left to right, and it's like S2U, without lag (and yeah without the iPhone trademark ) !
Here are some screenshot : http://www.throttlelauncher.com/portal/downloads/34-public-releases/87-throttle-lock-04
Enjoy it
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Tried it,very nice and cool looking, but unfortunately it wil unlock itself by an incoming call.
Ha ha, doesn't that make it kinda pointless? Many of us will want a lock so that when a call comes in, it doesn't accidentally unlock...
Does a text message unlock it to? Does turning it on unlock it?
I only use S2A2 for the Full Screen caller Option and Trotllelock for a manual devicelock (added to my start up list).
@AndyCr15 : luckyuser means that sometimes Trotllelock unlock itself (Bug). Normally you must wipe with your finger from up to bottom to answer a call. I'll use only the device lock option. Not the answer unlock option. So i'll have the best options from both apps.
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Ha ha, doesn't that make it kinda pointless? Many of us will want a lock so that when a call comes in, it doesn't accidentally unlock...
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Yean it's unlock when a call, but HTC got the protection as you have to put your finger on the virutal block and move it to the left to answer and move to the right to ignore... so it's not a problem, it's an advantage that it's unlocked automatically...
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Does a text message unlock it to?
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ofc not, but it is signaled by an icone
Zepiii said:
Yean it's unlock when a call, but HTC got the protection as you have to put your finger on the virutal block and move it to the left to answer and move to the right to ignore... so it's not a problem, it's an advantage that it's unlocked automatically...
ofc not, but it is signaled by an icone
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Sorry,, But you forget the hardware buttons they are not locked.. so you can accidentaly push any of the hardware buttons...
iosub said:
Sorry,, But you forget the hardware buttons they are not locked.. so you can accidentaly push any of the hardware buttons...
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The only programm who can fix that problem to is PocketShield.
Tried this app also, but I had to often gesture problems by shaking the phone! The device didn't react and awake properly for normal use!
i lock my phone by pressing and holding the "down reciever" icon. I thought that i could do that and this app would activate but it doesnt.
It's simple, S2U 1.37 corrects the advantage that thortlelock had... let's go back to S2U2 1.37
See you
luckyuser said:
The only programm who can fix that problem to is PocketShield.
Tried this app also, but I had to often gesture problems by shaking the phone! The device didn't react and awake properly for normal use!
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I use it too. Shaking does not work that good, so I only use it with finger slide. Works really good. The application is not free though, but €7 is not that much for lifetime upgrades and a lock application that does what it promises
Let's be clear, the application does not unlock itself; it merely (like S2U2) allows you to answer or ignore the call. After the call is completed the phone remains locked.
I have used both and chose throttlelock over S2U2 because of the lack of battery drain, the fact that I can mute an incoming call and that the security on throttlelock is (mildly) better than on S2U2. The other thing to mention is that there are options within throttlelock to disable the 'hard keys' if you choose.
Personally, I will continue to use throttlelock (or an alternative like Pocketshield when it becomes fully HD compatible) until some of the issues with S2U2 are fixed. These are still apparent in the latest ver 1.37.
Just my opinion
Mav.
Pocket shield is the best. I love it's option to auto-unlock with light sensor, and in the dark I just slide my finger on the screen It's also great that it can disable the hardware buttons when locked so no more problem with incidental pressing them while taking the phone out of my pocket I am very happy with this program, esspecially since it has no battery-drain issue like s2u2. The only thing that bothers me is why the h*... htc did'nt implement something like that in TF3d?! ...that, and group sms solution... and a few other things... sorry for the of topic in the end,
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(or an alternative like Pocketshield when it becomes fully HD compatible)
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What is not fully compatible with the HD? if you mean the background customization, that is already fixed.
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What is not fully compatible with the HD? if you mean the background customization, that is already fixed.
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My bad.
It wasn't the last time I checked. I'll take a look asap.
Thanks.
Mav.
kamilyo said:
esspecially since it has no battery-drain issue like s2u2.
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NEW version of S2U2 (1.40) avaliable now, has potential fix for battery-drain issue!
What do you do when you forget your code?
EDIT: Nevermindt
kamilyo said:
The only thing that bothers me is why the h*... htc did'nt implement something like that in TF3d?! ...that, and group sms solution... and a few other things... sorry for the of topic in the end,
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If you don't mind paying, use PowerSMS from Trinket Software to do your group SMS'ing - see http://www.trinketsoftware.com/powersms for details
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NEW version of S2U2 (1.40) avaliable now, has potential fix for battery-drain issue!
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We'll see....I used to use S2U2 on my Kaiser but haven't bothered putting on for the last couple of months due to excessive ROM flashing - on my Touch PRO, I found that "TouchLockPro" was a brilliant alternative to S2U2 as it allows you to take advantage of the capacitive touch functionality on the Touch Pro. Have a read here for all the details.
Just my $0.02
Mark.
What I am looking for is a simple auto key lock, I am not the only one!
S2U2 I have tried and found to be laggy and unstable, essentially it is overkill, as are most auto key lock programs. I want something simple!
When pressing and holding the end key the keypad locks, all i want is a program to do this automatically after a set time delay, without any fancy tricks or graphics - surely this isn't too much to ask?
I am aware that the power button can put the phone to sleep and disable the keys/screen BUT they do not stay disabled if the phone wakes up (when getting a call/message etc.). Only the key lock does this.
As an alternative, does anyone know how to call the key lock software, where is it located in the windows folder? I can try and write something to do this?
I guess you don't want the password to be activated?
If you do want the password then you can easily do this via
Settings--Personal--Lock
and just specify the time before auto-lock happens
Here are a couple of aps that might help:-
LockWithPassword -I have this little app mapped to a shortcut on my today ...so I can instantly lock when needed ... thanks to slow23 right here at XDA
LockAndOff -does what it says on the tin ...again can be set up as a shortcut, and this one locks keys & turns the screen off (with a single click on the shortcut) but does not invoke the password
Got it from here:- link
Thanks jcsxda, LockAndOff is pretty close to what i want, now if it could be set to run after a short period of activity, or on device sleep/wakeup then it would be perfect
Im looking for the same thing.
A simple auto lock just like any other phone...
S2U2 is overkill and can miss up someother app.
it is the same as the device lock today shorcut?
sorry, my phone is in my car and im too lazy
VJDeviceLock can be used to automatically lock your phone when you switch it off (actually, when you switch it on but it amounts to the same thing).
You can assign any app to launch on power on, by using the events management functions built into the OS. Eg Memory Maid will let you run apps on power on etc.
V
Thanks Vijay for the great info. shutil.dll is responsible for the device lock on windows mobile when you press the today plugin for locking.
Do you know a command to use this DLL (to put in Memory Maid) ?
Is there a rundll32.exe like on desktops or something
VJ you are a star!
Exactly what I've been looking for. A little fiddly to setup, but shouldn't be a problem for anyone unless they are a total newbie!
Now it's setup it is perfect.
Thank you very much, donation on the way!
@jrg1967
Many thanks for the donation! For various personal reasons, I went cold turkey off XDA Devs for about a year, but I'm really glad to be slowly getting back into it. It's amazing how strong this community is, internationally!
@el_lo:
Although there is an API for enabling the lock, when I tried to implement it when WM5 first came out, for VJDeviceLock, it wasn't well documented, so VJDeviceLock does something else that I can't remember now to enable the lock.
I don't believe that there is a rundll32 type app on Windows Mobile. It wouldn't be hard to make one, but then you'd still be running an external app!
I believe that VJKeyPress can also be used to enable the keylock, and there are other 3rd party apps.
HTC may well have built in some function to enable the lock through ROM based software, but for me, VJDeviceLock serves me well.
V
@VJ, you have the makings of a commercial piece of software there- it is very hard to find a simple program to do this, as the poll bias shows. You just need a user friendly settings program to deal with the command lines and make it easy to use. I am sure it would appeal across the WM community...
yeh would be great for the phone to autolock after a set period of time like other phones. ok the screen turns off after 30seconds but it doesnt lock the keys. seems strange why this feature isnt already on the phone...
Ok, I'll put this out there:
If one was developing a (possibly commercial, but cheap) auto lock app, what features would it need?
VJDeviceLock is a very old app now, but it works fine and it still surprises me that autolocking on power off is not a standard feature, so I always install it. I understand that there is a registry entry on the newer non X1 HTCs that does something similar, but anyway:
What features would you need? First, auto locking after a fixed time.
What else?
In the interest of keeping it simple, don't ask for a slide to unlock replacement, as S2U is already fabulous, if that's your thing.
Also note that if you're interested, I can entirely replace the native unlock screen with a different interface, although again, I don't propose replacing S2U. I mean something more like a HUGE unlock button.
Give me ideas.
I can do gesture based unlocks, accelerometer based locking and unlocking (assuming I can do this on the X1, I don't have one, so someone feel free to give me one and I'll come and give your package a fondle).
Note that I'm busy on other stuff, so anyone else can code this, but for simple-ish features I'm happy to start working on it. Bigger stuff will take time.
It would probably be free because I can't deal with the hassle of getting rich
V
I'm using Auto Lock (CSDEVCTRL) works like a charm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451
Hey Vijay, glad to see you around!
jcsxda said:
I guess you don't want the password to be activated?
If you do want the password then you can easily do this via
Settings--Personal--Lock
and just specify the time before auto-lock happens
Here are a couple of aps that might help:-
LockWithPassword -I have this little app mapped to a shortcut on my today ...so I can instantly lock when needed ... thanks to slow23 right here at XDA
LockAndOff -does what it says on the tin ...again can be set up as a shortcut, and this one locks keys & turns the screen off (with a single click on the shortcut) but does not invoke the password
Got it from here:- link
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thanks..seems like the lock app i was looking for.
X1 is like a mini comp....anyone can mess around with it if u leave it unlocked
Hi VJ,
It's still working great! Don't make this over complicated, as you can see from the poll people want a simple solution. Now I have it setup it's working just as needed, the standard unlock screen is fine, but the setup was a pain! So, IMHO all that is required is a simple front-end allowing to choose the options, rather than having to enter a command line. More complicated solutions to this issue are already available, so keep it simple.
Options for keylock/password lock at sleep and/or after a set time interval is probably all that is required.
BTW, X1 does NOT have accelerometer.
just having the regular keylock automatically come on after x amount of seconds would do me. no fancy screensavers, passwords or swiping the screen or anything like that. i noticed on diamond tweak there was an option for the keylock to come on when the standby kicked in and the screen goes off, doesnt work on the x1 though but that feature would be ideal.
vijay555 said:
Ok, I'll put this out there:
If one was developing a (possibly commercial, but cheap) auto lock app, what features would it need?
VJDeviceLock is a very old app now, but it works fine and it still surprises me that autolocking on power off is not a standard feature, so I always install it. I understand that there is a registry entry on the newer non X1 HTCs that does something similar, but anyway:
What features would you need? First, auto locking after a fixed time.
What else?
In the interest of keeping it simple, don't ask for a slide to unlock replacement, as S2U is already fabulous, if that's your thing.
Also note that if you're interested, I can entirely replace the native unlock screen with a different interface, although again, I don't propose replacing S2U. I mean something more like a HUGE unlock button.
Give me ideas.
I can do gesture based unlocks, accelerometer based locking and unlocking (assuming I can do this on the X1, I don't have one, so someone feel free to give me one and I'll come and give your package a fondle).
Note that I'm busy on other stuff, so anyone else can code this, but for simple-ish features I'm happy to start working on it. Bigger stuff will take time.
It would probably be free because I can't deal with the hassle of getting rich
V
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you can make it very simple.assign lock software to power off button.when you display is off you phone ll be locked.this ll be lovely.thank you
Hi Vijay,
I was also trying to develop a simple autolock program. Because I couldn't find any locking program that can prevent X1BC from capturing the keys. What I need is something that kills X1BC just before locking, and re-launches it after unlocking. Currently, I am able to lock the device and kill X1BC when the display dimms, but detecting the unlock is a problem. Do you have any idea how I can detect the unlock? (My program is using the lock mechanism of QuickMenu and that is using the built-in lock).
Cheers
Not sure this is in the right forum since it's really a general WM question, but anyway...
I want to be able to view my today screen since it contains all my appointments etc even when the screen is locked.
I guess a transparent screen lock would solve the problem, but I havent found one yet.
Is there one?
Another solution would be something that kept the screen locked until I press the power button. Then it would be easy to unlock but still locked when it's not in use so I dont make calls etc without knowing it.
try s2u2 http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/s2u2-new-version-v2-30/ it will show your information on the lock screen
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try s2u2 http://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/s2u2-new-version-v2-30/ it will show your information on the lock screen
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That's not good enough. I have everything specified just as I want it in my today screen and to find a custom lock screen that matches that is impossible to find. A transparent lock screen or a lock screen that gets unlocked automatically when I press the power button would solve it perfectly.
use the old (standart)lockscreen. like wm6.1
it is your homescreen with a unlock softbutton.
(i use wm6.1 and now i don't know why everybody is needing blown up lockscreens, when the old one was best )
aber82 said:
use the old (standart)lockscreen. like wm6.1
it is your homescreen with a unlock softbutton.
(i use wm6.1 and now i don't know why everybody is needing blown up lockscreens, when the old one was best )
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How do I get the old style? If I show the lock object on the today screen it will still show the new 6.5 lock screen when I lock the phone.
i do not know how to get it back , but i know that it is possible.
i hope someone can show you the way.
aber82 said:
i do not know how to get it back , but i know that it is possible.
i hope someone can show you the way.
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Found it: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=293605&view=findpost&p=1207481
Seems to work, thanks. Still interested in other soultions, but this will probably be fine otherwise.
or install Cookie Home Tab
it has customizable lockscreens, emphasis on multiple kinds of locks.
each has the ability to move the parts around like CHT always does. and you can make it fit your every need !
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or install Cookie Home Tab
it has customizable lockscreens, emphasis on multiple kinds of locks.
each has the ability to move the parts around like CHT always does. and you can make it fit your every need !
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Does that requier HTC Sense? I'm using a clean rom without any HTC software, since I want to use the old today screen. This is very important since I use TodayAgenda.