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T-Mobile USA GPRS cannot reach google web sites

I signed up for the T-Mobile USA internet (GPRS) few days ago.
I could establish the connection using my Universal.
I could browse most web sites, and could download emails from my company exchange server and Hotmail.
Only one strange thing, i could never download emails from Gmail. It will go to the login process, and when it reaches the Sending and Receiving... it will go forever.
I also noticed that I could not browse any google.com web sites including www.google.com, mail.google.com, news.google.com etc..
I tried to get T-Mboile technical support help but it has been useless and helpless. Somebody told me that it might be something to do with the MTU size that the T-Mobile network can pass along today.
If I swicth over the connection to Wifi or dial up via GSM, I can reach everything including Gmail and Google web sites just fine, from the same device (Universal).
Any one, that uses T-Mobile USA GPRS as well, can you please help?
Thanks.

hey I have t-mobile usa also but with the PDA2K (BlueAngel) when I was running WM5.0 and now back to 2003se I had no problems connecting to google.com/pda but I do know that their is a registry hack to make it go to the default google.com but I wouldn't advise it, becuase it interfeirs with other web sites.
Also T-Mobile has 2 data plans WAP and Total Internet the wap is limited to wap sites and such but the other is open to all sites, check your settings to make sure you are connecting to GPRS and not WAP.....
The difference is like 20 or 30 a month though
WAP 19.99 or 9.99
GPRS 29.99 and up for MyMail or VPN MyMail

I have the full GPRS (the new name: Total Internet for $30). Now its bundled with the hotspot and they are not longer offering the $20 for GPRS only.
Can you tell me what access point you set in your device? Mine is set to wap.voicestream.com and use no proxy. i noticed some ppl posted before that they proxy instead.
Thanks.

your connection is incorrect if you notice it is set to wap. even though you have the total internet that is only connecting you to the wap
your access point should be
internet2.voicestream.com or
internet3.voicestream.com
I used 3 on WM5 and it was fine I also use 3 on wm2003se

negative. I could connect to internet2.voicestream.com but not internet3.voicestream.com
internet2.voicestream.com gives me exactly same result.
I can connect to any websites but not google.com with both wap.voicestream.com as well as internet2.voicestream.com
very strange. anybody in Texas particularly has same issue?

I'm out of Massachusetts, but was in Dallas a few days ago and had no problem connecting to Google. I use internet2.voicestream.com

This issue has been driving me nuts for 6 months. I've been trying to nail down the problem, I'm wondering if it's a regional setting with T-mobile's servers or incorrect account set ups. Some people with other Universals and Wizards in other area's claim they do not have this problem.
Here's a general thread on Ho-fo that's been getting some hits, when I posted about it here on XDA forums there wasn't much response.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=605044
I actually have a couple friends how work for T-mob that thought the problem was with my JasJar until they got ahold of the MDA and discovered the exact same problem.
I've emailed google, just got a response saying they would forward the concern to their tech's. Please share any info or response you get so we can try to get this resolved!!

I've actually had the same problem and I'm on Cincinnati Bell (which is also Cingular & AT&T). I used to be able to connect with no problem on my PDA2k but with the Universal I can't connect. Actually, I've been able to hit the www.google.com/pda site and type in a search but then it just sits & spins forever.

I have the same problem with my MDA from T-mobile. It only happens sometimes. It always connect to google and m.gmail when using wi-fi, but is very hit or miss when connected over GPRS.
Thats the least of my problems however, as I am constantly getting dropped from the GPRS data network even with full coverage, and I'm in the NYC area. I have alerted T-mobile to both problems and am considering turning in my device since i still have a week to do so not because of the device but because of the connection issues with the network.
This has been a bit of a nightmare when it comes to email, because I came from using a blackberry where all my accounts were instantly pushed, to this now when sometime i get email, sometimes not, my Gmail doesnt work properly, and it can take a half an hour for the email to finally reach me.

No problems here
I have no problems connecting to Google.com from my Blue Angel, or from my friend's Wizard. I'm still waiting for my Universal.
I don't have Total Internet Plan, though. I just have the T-Zones hack: In Settings/Connections/Connections, go to "Edit my proxy server" and select "Advanced". HTTP server should be set to 216.155.165.50:8080. Any other HTTP settings should be cleared.
I've noticed in the past two days, however, that Google seems to have changed what it considers a "mobile device", based on the client's User-Agent string. It goes to www.google.com/xhtml if it detects a mobile device. Previously it went to www.google.com/pda , but for a smaller number of devices. Google's "mobile" page has fewer links on it, and is not as useful as the main page.
I use NetFront 3.2, which allows me to change the User-Agent string to make it look like a desktop browser. Today I changed it to:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.51
I also changed the language/platform to en/x86.
This seems to make Google go back to the normal page.
But no connectivity problems are happening with GPRS. I can search Google, browse results, search newsgroups, search News, etc.
There was an T-mobile outage reported in California last week (search HowardForums). Perhaps this is related (routing issues?).
PS: It seems to depend on the User-Agent, whether www.google.com/pda or www.google.com/xhtml is used. If I run Pocket Internet Explorer, it still goes to /pda (searches work fine). If I run NetFront with factory settings, it goes to /xhtml. If I run Opera, or change Netfront as above, then it goes to the Google main page. In no cases does it have problems connecting. Response is a little faster on the main page, though, which would seem to indicate that Google Mobile does something which is slower.
[rant]
Google saying that they "don't support T-Mobile devices with Google Mobile" is like saying "best viewed with xxx browser". The phone provider should have no effect on the usability. Nor should Google have to go out of their way to provide a different experience for Mobile users, or to second-guess their needs based on a User-Agent string -- anyone with any browser should be able to use Google, and nothing special should be done for mobile.
I say disable Google Mobile, by changing the User-Agent.
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I have a T-Mobile MDA with the Total Internet plan and Google works fine for me.

Thanks for feedback folks. This isn't a new issue, I've had this problem for 6 months. I currently have my user agent set to IE 5.5/NT so that I can access my bank web page, I've tried several combinations of user-agent settings with no luck, can you explain the exact changes I'd need to make to try your current setting?
Also, I'm hoping that when Netfront releases a WM5 compatible version I can run through a proxy server (which I've also heard solves the problem).

This is with Blue Angel (SX66), WM2003, T-Mobile T-Zones proxy, NetFront 3.2, so your mileage may vary. I will be getting an O2 Exec any day now.
Tools/Browser Setting/Misc/User Agent/Edit
Title: (anything you want to call it)
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.51
appName: (blank)
appVersion: (blank)
appCodeName: (blank)
language/platform: en / x86
Tools/Browser Setting/Network/Proxy (T-Zones only, not Total Internet)
Use Proxy: (checked)
Proxy (hostort) 216.155.165.50:8080
Note that NetFront 3.3 is coming out soon. I'm sure it will support WM5.0, but right now Access says "(* Its verification is not completed.)"
Have you tried Opera? It works with T-Zones proxy, at least in WM2003, if you set the proxy in the GPRS Connection Settings.
It might be worth trying the T-Zones hack. Go to My T-Mobile, log in, and then go to this T-Zones page (if that does not work, go to "Plan&Services, Learn About Services, Communication, T-Zones"). Add T-Zones (aka T-MobileWeb) to your plan. Then you should be able to use the proxy as described above. You can remove it later if you don't want to pay the $6/month extra. Some people have even reported being able to add it and remove it immediately, but keep the services.

I tested to connect to the internet via T-Mobile GPRS with my universal as a USB modem hooked up to my laptop.
And it gives a totally different behaviour compared when used directly from the Universal (with pocket IE and Mail application).
Besides a decent speed, I could browse to google, perform search etc, everything seems to work perfectly (from my laptop, Universal as a USB modem). When I browse the same thing again from the Universal, same problem occured again, never get any search result back from google, and GMail will stuck in the step "Sending and Receiving..." which will go forever until it times out.
I also tested with my Wallaby the same thing to make sure its not the device problem, and it turned out the same problem exists also.
I really could not pin point where the problem is. Please help to think, folks. Its not the device problem? Is it T-Mobile GPRS network problem? Or what?

Are there packet sniffers for PPC? Something like tcpdump, traceroute, ping? That would be my next step. See where it's hung up.

There are some PPC tools for that stuff, I played with an app called TCPTune (I think) but couldn't accomplish anything, I'm totally ignorant of the network stuff.

Re: No problems here
leek said:
In Settings/Connections/Connections, go to "Edit my proxy server" and select "Advanced". HTTP server should be set to 216.155.165.50:8080. Any other HTTP settings should be cleared.
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Holly crap I made this change (still with full Tmob internet plan) and a few registry edits based on your Netfront settings (probably butchered my registry) and manually forced a connection via my WAP settings and THEN LOADED GOOGLE OVER GPRS!! FULL HTML GOOGLE, NEWS GMAIL, IMAGES, ON MY JASJAR VIA GPRS OMG!! I'm really feeling very strong emotional feelings of like towards you right now Leek! :lol:
I'm having some trouble with google local not returning results (starts to load a page with a text box and then stops), not sure why but I suspect it's a problem with my hacked up user agent registry settings.
So, here's my question - I really don't mind paying the full $20 for regular GPRS (and wouldn't want to worry about full access via the $4.99 tzones going away), how do I either make this work using my regular GPRS settings (so I don't have to use an alternate connection) or how do I get the WAP settings to work as my primary settings for all programs? I was able to update my feeds and load images over this WAP settings just fine, but when I tried to check my email or load Agile messenger it tried to load my regular GPRS settings.

In order to figure out exactly which change made this work I went back and reset my PPC to a backup from last night. The only registry edits I have now are my old ones that made PIE show the version as "MSIE 5.5" & the platform as "Windows NT 5.0". Other than the changes below, I'm using the T-mobile CAB settings from i-mate.
I went into settings > connections > and below My Work Network I went to Manage existing settings and then clicked on the Proxy Settings Tab. The two check boxes were already checked but the proxy server was blank so I entered the 216.155.165.50 and then click on advanced. and it then showed that server under Type HTTP but the port was 80 not 8080, I then clicked on the HTTP server and edited the port to 8080 and then hit ok. I left all the other servers that were listed as is.
From the main Connections > Settings screen I then clicked on manage existing connections, it brought up the T-mobile WAP connection and then I click-held on that and selected connect. I then loaded PIE, navigated to Google and grinned as it loaded everything.
Under this connection type most other web pages I've been trying work fine, although some (like howard forums and search.yahoo.com) don't work. *edit hofo might be down right now*
The problem I was having initally with Google local (via web, haven't tried the local java app) is resolved and it now loads fine, as I suspected it must have been my hacked up user agent registry settings. I'm now also able to check and send POP email with this WAP connection, Agile Messenger connects to the servers.
Big thanks to leek for posting this fix here, now how can I make this my default connection and should I try to downsize my account to just the $5 tzones account?

found how to make it the default connection method (connections > settings > advanced > select networks > and then set the top drop down to "my work network".
Leek, buddy, I owe you a case of beer... This had been driving me nuts for 6 months, you solved it!!!

hi galt and leek,
I'm so excited to read that you guys succesfully solved this.
i could not try it out anymore, I changed my T-Mobile plan yesterday, I removed my total internet plan as I don't want to pay $30 per month without even able to access my primary email account: Gmail and google around.
SO, can you give summary again how to make this works?
I assume no extra application to install beside all standard application built in WM5.
Pls clarify:
1. Get T-MobileWeb /t-zones plan ($5.99)
2. set the proxy setting for HTTP with the port 8080 and left others empty (including the SOCKS, WAP)
3. Use the APN: wap.voicestream.com
Do I miss anything? Any reqistry setting I have to make?
That's it? And you can have full access to the internet? Can you clarify if Gmail is working via POP3?
I tried the proxy setting when I still had my total Internet plan but it did not work out. :`(

Using T-Mobile USA GPRS with XDA Exec

Hello everyone, i'm newbie here. I just bought a xda exec and i want to sign up for T-Mobile Total Internet in USA for GPRS service. I wonder if anybody has done it and how was it? How fast is it because as I contacted their customer service, they said they don't know anything about xda exec settings.
Thanks advanced for any reply.

Simple..
1) Make sure its unlocked
2) Get SIM card from T-mobile and insert
3) For intetnet go to Settings and then Connections
4) Under "My ISP" click "Add a new modem connection"
5) Name connection T-mobile
6) In the type of connection detail use "Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)"
7) Access point will be - wap.voicestream.com
8) Click next, then click finish. Do not need the set any advanced settings or Passwords or login.
Just posted this on my MDA PRO with the newest DOPOD ROM
Connections are good, but othside the metro areas I havent had much luck WiFi works great.

7) Access point will be - wap.voicestream.com
----> T-Mobile offers 2 different data plans: if you go with the cheap one, named T-Mobile Web, you get access to the wap sites only, and you will be using the wap.voicestream.com access point.
If you go with the second plan (a lot more expensive) named Total Internet, you will hit the internet, and you will use the access point internet2.voicestream.com
Most people can hit most of the www by simply subscribing to the T-Mobile Web (the wap plan) and then configure the following proxy in the connection settings:
HTTP proxy: getmorespeed.voicestream.com port 8080.

Interesting.. since I have teh big plan.. will see how the other settigns work for me.

thanks,
Thanks for the reply, I think im gonna go with the big one since I use the T-Mobile Hot Spot too. Thanks so much though...

I tried the settings as you describe but my browser (IE) still returns an error stating that the page could not be located. I've been playing around with my Exec for 2 days now since it arrived and have yet to get this to work. Thanks in advance because I know you guys have alot of experience.
Dre

Thanks for all the information, my exeec is still on his way so I haven't really tried anything out yet. But one more question if someone could help, will I be able to access to free email services such as hotmail, yahoo mail? because my understanding is if you use the cheap plan one, you can browsing the websites but not be able to send/receive emails. Thanks,

hey
I use this already just use wap.voicestream.com. It doesn't matter the diffrences are one you have a public address and the other you have a private address. Everything works through wap.voicestream.com. Don't put the proxy settings in just the gprs

WANTED: JasJam help needed in Sydney, Australia

I bought an i-mate JasJam secondhand off eBay recently which has all the Telstra stuff preloaded. However I have a 3G contract with Optus and need to set it up to access the internet via 3G and my work Exchange Server email.
I can probably get someone else to take care of the Exchange Server side of the email issue, but I was wondering if there was anybody in the North Sydney area in Australia who could help me out with upgrading to the latest ROM/software/firmware? I'm happy to pay for your time, normally I'd work this out for myself but I'm flat out at the moment and don't seem to be able to get my head around how to do it with any degree of confidence.
Any help with answering these questions would also be greatly appreciated:
1. If I have a capped BlackBerry plan with Optus, is the data usage still capped with a JasJam?
2. Should I upgrade to Windows Mobile 6?
Please contact me via email rod.wilson(at)prosperion.com.au.
thanks in advance
Rod

Im in sydney but a bit too busy atm to help.
If you follow this guide http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=26
word for word you dont need to actually understand anything.

Thank you, that guide couldn't have made it any easier!! I was just put off originally from all the threads about upgrading and I wanted to make sure that I got it right so I didn't end up killing the device.
By the way for those trying to access the internet through Optus 3G, I found these settings at http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=701331:
Ok the settings. You need to select My ISP from the connections settings. Once you have this, you will need to set up TWO (2) Connections under MY ISP.
You Name one, 'OPTUS MMS' ... with access point name of 'mms', and another one with name 'Internet' ... with access point name 'internet'.
Now you need to actually set up the MMS email account. Go to Messenging, then to Tools and Options, select MMS and then the Servers tab at the bottom of the page. Create a new one with the following settings:
Server Name: Optus
Gateway: 61.88.190.10
Port : 8070
Server Address: mmsc.optus.com.au:8002 ... make sure you put HTTP:// before it ... the post takes this out
Connect Via: My ISP
Sending Size: 100K
WAP Version : WAP 2.0
Ok now set that as the DEFAULT.
THATS IT, you ready to go. Now there is one catch. You will need to alternate MY ISP from using Internet and Optus MMS connections so that it will work.
Go to Setting, Connections TAB, Connections, Manage existing and then alternate between which one you wish to use (IE Internet for the net (WAP), and Optus MMS for MMS).
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thanks again
Rod

3g settings

HI i want to use 3g wap for my universal does anyknow how to get the settings thanks well appriciate

You have to ask your phone provider for the settings. I have Vodafone, and I got the settings from them. Each provider has their own settings so you have to ask them

http://www.europe.htc.com/support/software/htcp3600.html
the application at the bottom of that page should have the settings for your network provider. I've used that on the universal for Three UK and everything works perfect.

thanks aLLOT worked like a treat this topic should be pinned some people may need the settings

That link isn't working now unfortunately, can anybody cut/paste their three network settings?

Stu,
Any chance you can share the settings for Three UK. I'm just about to get a Nokia 6120 on X-Series. I'd obviously like to use my Universal on this too.
As someone else has mentioned, the link is dead.
Cheers

Settings for 3 UK on the Universal:
GPRS settings....
Modem - Cellular Line (GPRS , 3G)
APN - three.co.uk
Username - leave blank
password - leave blank
Domain - leave blank
MMS Settings....
IN MESSAGING.....Menu > Tools > Options Click *MMS
Select servers tab.....Create new server called 3 MMS
Gateway - mms.three.co.uk
Port - 8799
Server address - http://mms.um.three.co.uk:10021/mmsc
connect via - My ISP
Size Limit - 200K
Wap version - 2.0
There is a piece of software that will do it all for you as well for most worldwide providers (can't remember the name as am a bit drunk) but have it on the flash on me phone. Will extract it and attach it when one is sober.
HTH.
Psi

Cheers Doc.
Much appreciated.
The 'settings file' would be nice to have too when you have time to get round to it.

As promised:
Net wizard. a handy utility that sets up all the necessary gprs and mms settings for most providers worldwide.
Useage Instructions: Unpack and drop the contents of the net wizard folder in your windows folder and it'll appear in your settings section somewhere.
Psi

Awesome.
Cheers mate.

o2 mobile internet problem - help needed

I bought a sim-free htc touch hd a few weeks ago, bought an o2 pay&go sim, added the unlimited web blot-on, and thought everything would be just fine. But I was wrong.
It worked fine on the small number of occasions I used it before yesterday.
Since I added the web bolt-on, the automatic connection settings no longer work and I get the following message every time I try to set up the data connection:
Dialed:
Cannot connect for an unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings. If the problem continues, reset your mobile device according to your manufacturer's documentation and try again.
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Other than trying the automatic connection setup feature a few times, I've also tried manual settings. Currently my settings are as follows:
Modem selected: Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Access point name: mobile.o2.co.uk
User name: O2web
Password: some 16 digit long network automatic password
Domain: no value entered
Advanced settings:
TCP/IP: Use server-assigned IP address
Servers: Use server-assigned addresses
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I've tried using a different username and password, same the ones listed on most setup guides.
I've tried entering a manual DNS, and Alt DNS server address under advanced settings.
I've tried setting up the connection from scratch.
And I've tried doing a soft reset followed by restoring it to factory settings.
Currently I am using ROM version 1.14.4005.3, and have nothing else installed on the device. I do not currently have access to anything other than a mac, so cannot use any windows-related troubleshooting devices.
Absolutely anything you could suggest would be great. Rang o2, but they were unhelpful. Thanks chaps.

iamelegy said:
I bought a sim-free htc touch hd a few weeks ago, bought an o2 pay&go sim, added the unlimited web blot-on, and thought everything would be just fine. But I was wrong.
It worked fine on the small number of occasions I used it before yesterday.
Since I added the web bolt-on, the automatic connection settings no longer work and I get the following message every time I try to set up the data connection:
Other than trying the automatic connection setup feature a few times, I've also tried manual settings. Currently my settings are as follows:
I've tried using a different username and password, same the ones listed on most setup guides.
I've tried entering a manual DNS, and Alt DNS server address under advanced settings.
I've tried setting up the connection from scratch.
And I've tried doing a soft reset followed by restoring it to factory settings.
Currently I am using ROM version 1.14.4005.3, and have nothing else installed on the device. I do not currently have access to anything other than a mac, so cannot use any windows-related troubleshooting devices.
Absolutely anything you could suggest would be great. Rang o2, but they were unhelpful. Thanks chaps.
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Those are the O2 contract settings. PAYG settings are different and one will not work with the others' settings. You'll have to scoure the O2 website to find the manual settings for PAYG (or PAG as O2 calls it).
A word of warning, however, after just coming off P&G and onto contract, and thus knowing the limitations of both, your mobile web with P&G will be severely crippled.
Unless O2 have changed their settings on the server side, the only web program that will work will be Opera. Email client and youtube won't work as P&G is limited to port 8080 (HTML) only...
This is something that really annoyed me when I was with P&G because I couldn't use my mobile's email client because it just could not connect.
sorry, rant/warning over! Summary: you need P&G specific settings, you can find them (eventually) on the O2 website - keep trying makes and models until you find one that gives you the manual settings (I can't give more help than this as I had to do the exact same thing myself!). HTC auto-connect wizard only has contract settings in it. Also be warned that potentially only Opera will work once you get the settings!

chaosdefinesorder said:
Those are the O2 contract settings. PAYG settings are different and one will not work with the others' settings. You'll have to scoure the O2 website to find the manual settings for PAYG (or PAG as O2 calls it).
A word of warning, however, after just coming off P&G and onto contract, and thus knowing the limitations of both, your mobile web with P&G will be severely crippled.
Unless O2 have changed their settings on the server side, the only web program that will work will be Opera. Email client and youtube won't work as P&G is limited to port 8080 (HTML) only...
This is something that really annoyed me when I was with P&G because I couldn't use my mobile's email client because it just could not connect.
sorry, rant/warning over! Summary: you need P&G specific settings, you can find them (eventually) on the O2 website - keep trying makes and models until you find one that gives you the manual settings (I can't give more help than this as I had to do the exact same thing myself!). HTC auto-connect wizard only has contract settings in it. Also be warned that potentially only Opera will work once you get the settings!
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Thank you so much. I may love you. In a non-gay way. Anywho, I've found out how to do it. It's extremely simple now that you've pointed me toward the problem.
Go to Settings > Connections > Manage existing connections
Then under the 'Modem' tab, edit your connection.
All you have to do is change the access point name from 'mobileweb.o2.co.uk' to 'payango.o2.co.uk'.
Very simple.
And thanks for the warning about the limitations. I might take that up with them, since it is not mentioned when purchasing the web upgrade or sim. I'll test it out first though.

iamelegy said:
Thank you so much. I may love you. In a non-gay way. Anywho, I've found out how to do it. It's extremely simple now that you've pointed me toward the problem.
Go to Settings > Connections > Manage existing connections
Then under the 'Modem' tab, edit your connection.
All you have to do is change the access point name from 'mobileweb.o2.co.uk' to 'payango.o2.co.uk'.
Very simple.
And thanks for the warning about the limitations. I might take that up with them, since it is not mentioned when purchasing the web upgrade or sim. I'll test it out first though.
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It's a general thing with PAYG really, telcos want you to have contracts - make more money from you that way! all PAYG SIMs go through proxies for mobile web connections, and almost all the PAYG proxies are limited to 8080 only.
Then again, it sounds like you didn't use the proxy settings so we'll see what happens w.r.t non html usage!
When you get a chance, could you please have a play with trying to use Gmail on IMAP and/or the YouTube and/or weather panel and report back whether it works or gets timed out? I'd really like to see how you get on!

As I already have many phone contracts in the family (that I'm paying for ), I got one of those o2 simplicity 30 day rolling contract things, the cheapest one for £10, then added £7.50 web bolt on, that lets you do whatever you like (you tube, mail etc all works fine), I thinks its also 150mins and 300txts.
Tmob do one as well that I think £20 for more mins, Unlimited txts and free web (special offer at the moment). It is a better deal than the o2 for only £2.50 more, but I have better o2 reception where I am, and also they use the Edge network.

chaosdefinesorder said:
When you get a chance, could you please have a play with trying to use Gmail on IMAP and/or the YouTube and/or weather panel and report back whether it works or gets timed out? I'd really like to see how you get on!
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OK, I've played about with these a bit, and they seem to be working fine. Weather works perfectly, as does my Gmail account on IMAP.
The youtube application is extremely slow, but I'm assuming that is more general, than a specific PAYG problem.
As I already have many phone contracts in the family (that I'm paying for ), I got one of those o2 simplicity 30 day rolling contract things, the cheapest one for £10, then added £7.50 web bolt on, that lets you do whatever you like (you tube, mail etc all works fine), I thinks its also 150mins and 300txts.
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I've got their 'Your Country' SIM pack, which is purely top-up, but they deduct the 7.50 form my credit each month. It's great for me, since you get free minutes for calls to overseas whenever you top-up - damn useful for an Irishman.
Can't afford 20 pound every single month unfortunately. Student life (ignoring the fact that I managed to get a HD).
Thanks again chaps.