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hello Xda world,
Has anyone looked into Visual Voice Mail? Quite an interesting feature from iPhone. If there are any developed already. Can I have the cab files please?
sounds more like an operator feature
being that when the device is off or busy
calls dont have access to storing stuff in it's mem
and htc phones dont even support normal voice mail
Thanks Rudegar,
Yes, looks more Network controlled service...but I am not sure what exactly you meant by 'normal voice mail' feature not able to work on HTCs.
Voicemail on my Xda orbit works fine
Cheers!
Sridhar Gondesi said:
hello Xda world,
Has anyone looked into Visual Voice Mail? Quite an interesting feature from iPhone. If there are any developed already. Can I have the cab files please?
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http://www.callwave.com/landing/corp_home_v2e.asp
Free visual voice mail.
Has anyone tried this?
I'm wondering what people think about it... sounds interesting, but it transcribes your voice mails as text... I feel like it would lost something like that. Plus, its only free while in Beta. What do you guys think of it?
Dishe said:
Has anyone tried this?
I'm wondering what people think about it... sounds interesting, but it transcribes your voice mails as text... I feel like it would lost something like that. Plus, its only free while in Beta. What do you guys think of it?
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I've been using this for a while now...the transcription is poor but you can usually get the gist of a message and decide if it's worth listening to if you need detail. You get an email with the text and you have the choice of whether it includes a wav attachment of the actual voicemail (I choose to get the attachment so I can "play" the voicemail from the phone without having to dial in to voicemail. Some nice features is you get an email even if the person does not leave a voicemail so you know someone tried to call and it has enhanced callerid so if someone on a landline calls it grabs their name, address etc....you can add cell phone contact info to your "contacts" on the website and those will work too.
As for the only free while in beta...use it while you can..if they start charging I will sign up at k7.net for a free voicemail/fax # and use the call forwarding to forward to it...I will still get my voicemails AND faxes in email as attachments..I just won't have the text inside the email...
Hello,
Not exactly visual voice mail as in iphone, but I think its possible to develop a software application residing in the device which can connect to carrier/network specific voice mail box (#121 on vodafone, #901 on O2 in UK etc.) to gather voice mail details and store it on the device itself. Once the voice mails are downloaded, application can mimic visual voice mail feature. The advantage is there is no need to call voice mail box number again and again to hear the voice messages once downloaded.
This is what I think Sridhar is expecting.
Cheers,
Abhay
There was actually a post in the General forum a few weeks ago that showed how the visual voicemail worked on the iPhone. Essentiaelly, ATT sends a text message that's invisible to the iPhone with encrypted info on the callers name, number, etc... Also, abhaypatil's idea is most likely impossible unless the carriers provide some sort of API's with which to access the voicemail box, which is unlikely.
Urthwhyte said:
There was actually a post in the General forum a few weeks ago that showed how the visual voicemail worked on the iPhone. Essentiaelly, ATT sends a text message that's invisible to the iPhone with encrypted info on the callers name, number, etc... Also, abhaypatil's idea is most likely impossible unless the carriers provide some sort of API's with which to access the voicemail box, which is unlikely.
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There was another program that was free while in beta that had a custom app you ran which was supposed to be "iphone like" for visual voicemail...was called "simulsays" or something like that.
Man what i would give for an iphone like visual voicemail.. drool
http://www.simulsays.com/
fallenczar said:
http://www.simulsays.com/
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Ya know? I hate companies that have on the front screen, "Get this product FREE NOW!, and then you click on the link and its $120.00 a year. I don't understand how that is free, but thats okay.
Get youmail. It is really free
jmy72 said:
Ya know? I hate companies that have on the front screen, "Get this product FREE NOW!, and then you click on the link and its $120.00 a year. I don't understand how that is free, but thats okay.
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Get it here:
http://www.youmail.com/home/index.do
You can get a text message with a link to the VM, or get it as an email attachment. I've been using it for quite awhile, with excellent results.
crissg said:
Get it here:
http://www.youmail.com/home/index.do
You can get a text message with a link to the VM, or get it as an email attachment. I've been using it for quite awhile, with excellent results.
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same here that's who i would recommend i was using callwave at one point but there beta program ended if you don't mind paying i would say check out youmail and www.callwave.com
youmail has better features especially when it comes to voicemail customization i would like to say that i believe callwave has better transcript though i use the free version of youmail and i was part of the beta program for callwave
For anyone interested, there is a method that will give you visual voicemail on any phone/pda with direct push capabilities in the USA.
1. Goto www.callwave.com and sign up for their FREE voicemail service (US ONLY)
2. If you don't have access to an exchange server already (for Direct Push mail) sign up for free access at www.mail2web.com, or any place you'd like, I use mail2web because it's free
3. Now, log into your callwave phonepage (link in on the top right on main callwave page) and goto settings. Enter your mail2web (or whatever) address as your email address. then goto (I think.. accounts) the far right tab. Disable text messaging notification (unless you want that as well) and enable email notification. Check the box to have it attach a .wav file of the message.
4. Set up activesync on your pda/phone.... goto messaging and options, select outlook e-mail. Enter the server and login information for whatever exchange server you set up.
Now, open activesync on your device and and goto menu - schedule. I prefer to have mine sync when new items arrive, that way as soon as a new message comes in you'll get it.
Ok, now you should be all set, sorry if I missed anything, post any questions and I'll try to respond quickly.
*** Reasons this is awesome ***
1. If you are transfering data when a call comes in, it will notify you of missed call/voicemail while you are still transfering.
2. Person call doesn't even have to leave a message, you can have it notify you of any missed call, so if your phone is off when you turn it on you'll see all calls, not just voicemails.
3. Callwave actually transcribes the voicemail, so in the body of the email you recieve will be an attempt at speech to text of the voicemail.
4. Voicemail messages are archives online at your Callwave PhonePage, so you can go back and search for old voicemails by typing anything from that voicemail in the search box
5. You can still call in to get messages just like standard voicemail, personal greeting and all that (just call your own # from your phone)
6. If the person calling has a blocked/private # it will still show the number in the email!
I also did a reg edit of the "friendlyname" Outlook E-mail. so my today screen says: Voicemail : 1 new msg
With this method you basically have iphone like visual voicemail, you goto your inbox and pick which ever message you want to hear, click the attachment and it opens in you media player. Or you can get an idea of what the message is about just by reading the text of the email.
Sorry if anyone of this is hard to understand, writing in a hurry because I'm at work.
Post any questions/comments.
-Matt
Any programmers out there
One other thing..
Don't know if it's possible, but if there are any programmers out there that could make an application that would run on the pda that could connect to callwave and allow you to listen, delete voicemails. They have widgets/gadgets that you can add to google/yahoo/Vista that do that, is there anyway to incorporate that into a pda application??
This does not, under any circumstances, work with Sprint. Just FYI.
meatlocker said:
This does not, under any circumstances, work with Sprint. Just FYI.
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There is no reason in the world this will not work with sprint..it doesn't even have anything to DO with sprint....the only part you might have to do different is find out how to set "conditional call forwarding" to forward all calls when phone is busy to the new voicemail phone #. All the poster has presented is a method to have voicemails routed to email..the only difference between callwave and other services like k7.net and simulsays.com is that callwave currently is beta testing a "voice to text" transcription service and includes a "mostly readable" text version of the attached wav voicemail. When they start charging I can switch over to a free service like k7.net in about 5 minutes and the voice to text is the only part I will lose.
Yes, in theory you are correct. However, as you will clearly see on the CallWave website, they work with everyone BUT Sprint, because Sprint refuses to provision customer accounts to have this type of forwarding. And I can verify this, as I spent 1.5 hours of my time today, through 2 levels of tech support (3 different reps) all of whom ultimately came back and said "impossible".
From the CallWave Activation widget itself (from their website):
"CallWave works with most major carriers including Cingular, Verizon and TMobile. Unfortunately activation is not available for Sprint."
If someone has another method for using the service through Sprint, I would love to hear it.
Sorry about that...looked into it further and you are 100% correct. You CAN do call forwarding but it would end up costing you alot. Apparently sprint charges .10 to .20 a minute for call forwarding and gives you NO free conditional call forwarding minutes. Seems all the other providers have SOME method to do it. Bummer.
Ok..here is one post where they said they had it working and csr got it working for them again...
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1481614&postcount=7
FYI, I had conditional call forwarding for my busy and no answer calls enabled for my sprint phone so that I could use youmail for voicemail and they also stopped working recently with no explanation.
The codes to enable them (*73 and *74) also no longer work and give an error.
I had to call Sprint and they were able to do it for me I just had to give them the number I wanted to forward to. The rep said that she didn't know about the old instructions but that she had gotten alot of calls recently of people with the same problem so she guessed that something had changed recently where you are no longer able to set this yourself. She didn't have any other information but my conditional call forwarding is working again so I'm happy.
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meatlocker said:
Yes, in theory you are correct. However, as you will clearly see on the CallWave website, they work with everyone BUT Sprint, because Sprint refuses to provision customer accounts to have this type of forwarding. And I can verify this, as I spent 1.5 hours of my time today, through 2 levels of tech support (3 different reps) all of whom ultimately came back and said "impossible".
From the CallWave Activation widget itself (from their website):
"CallWave works with most major carriers including Cingular, Verizon and TMobile. Unfortunately activation is not available for Sprint."
If someone has another method for using the service through Sprint, I would love to hear it.
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So basically someone listens to your voicemail and then sends you the 'gist' of it? Sorry, I really don't need someone listening to my work voicemail and I don't think my patients would like that either.
Why on earth would you think they are listening to your voicemail? Have you never heard of speech recognition?
I think it might be exceedingly cost-ineffective to hire staff to transcribe a million voicemail messages. Thankfully some nice gentleman invented computers to make these tasks easier.
fluxist
I didn't think the internet would work on a P.B. 386sx, it is 2007!
fluxist said:
Why on earth would you think they are listening to your voicemail? Have you never heard of speech recognition?
I think it might be exceedingly cost-ineffective to hire staff to transcribe a million voicemail messages. Thankfully some nice gentleman invented computers to make these tasks easier.
fluxist
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Exactly, it is completely computerized, the text of the voicemail is not all that accurate. If it was typed out by a person listening to your voicemail that person would have to a complete moron. That feature is useful only to give you an idea of what the voicemail is about, it's more entertaining to read them than it is useful however.
wow
maevro said:
So basically someone listens to your voicemail and then sends you the 'gist' of it? Sorry, I really don't need someone listening to my work voicemail and I don't think my patients would like that either.
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patients? you telling us you're a doctor? I really hope you are better at your profession than you are at grasping modern technology.
mbritten said:
patients? you telling us you're a doctor? I really hope you are better at your profession than you are at grasping modern technology.
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Actually I am a therapist and I understood it wrong - OH MY GOD, I READ IT WRONG SO YOU MUST BE THE NEXT BILL GATES AND KNOW ALL ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND NEVER READ ANYTHING WRONG.
Because I am concerned about my patients privacy and you joke, that is sad. I would like to see how fast you would have a lawsuit if you had an illness and that information was available to the general public.
i have an 8125 with WM6 but im not familiar with direct push...although i do get my gmail emails on my phone...can i do this?
stolli said:
i have an 8125 with WM6 but im not familiar with direct push...although i do get my gmail emails on my phone...can i do this?
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You can still do it, but you would only get message notifications via email by checking your email. Direct push means that the server sends email to your phone without you needing to check it. Microsoft Exchange servers do direct push.
Callwave does offer SMS notification though, can't see why that wouldn't work.
There are some other features with Callwave, not sure how usefull they are, but they are interesting.
You can initiate a call from "in the middle" making both your cell and the destination ring, or home phone for that matter, you can also answer the call on your PC , with the paid service.
So not overly usefull but , some nice tech ...
but didnt older versions of wm5 have direct push? i recall something about that...and is htere any way to have direct push with wm6?
for some reason i could never sign up for a callwave account, i assume its cause I am in canada.
whenever i put my # in it tells me to input a valid mobile phone number
mbritten said:
One other thing..
Don't know if it's possible, but if there are any programmers out there that could make an application that would run on the pda that could connect to callwave and allow you to listen, delete voicemails. They have widgets/gadgets that you can add to google/yahoo/Vista that do that, is there anyway to incorporate that into a pda application??
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I'm all about writing a plug-in or app that will do for windows what AT&T and Aple are getting sued for on iPhone.
I'm driving myself batty trying to figure out how I can intercept the network signals from the carrier to the device which are used as a notification of new voicemail. From the patents I've read on the existing technolgy, it's possible to get everything but the message itself from the signal. I don't want to speek to soon, but there's an ID that's transmitted as part of this message it supposedly the "unique" on the message in YOUR VMail box.
If anyone has any tips on how I can intercept that message, even if you only know the protocol....that would be a huge help.
I've tried intercepting SMS already and left a VM for myself and NOTHING! I'm still playing with it though. I think that I maight have been watching for the wrong message types. I might need to trap for RAW (priority=0, for you regedit nuts out there)
Later,
-D
good stuff i have a wizard but i just set it up so i'm goin to check it out
should come in handy since i don't get all my calls sometimes
I gotta admit this is pretty damn cool so far..
Biggest plus is seeing missed calls when my phone is off and seeing block #'s
awesome thanks for the heads up
Haven't tried callwave yet but I've been using Simulsays visual voicemail on my 8525 for a while now.
Do any of you know of or think that the iPhone style Voice-mail service will be coming to Windows Mobile devices soon? (At no additional cost )
Unfortunately I found the first feature the iPhone has that I currently see no alternative solution for.
Still, I would never get an iPhone but would love to have the ability to browse Voice-mails like TXT messages. Delete without listening to. Seems like something that should be available to all and is long overdue!
nothing free as of yet but here's the one if you willing to pay.
Code:
[url]http://www.viewyourvoicemail.com/?gclid=CLXJp5vLm48CFQh6gwodJUFoeQ[/url]
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
I didn't actually mean get Voicemails as TXT messages, I meant be able to browse through them rather than listen to one at a time and have to skip if you don't want to delete one and stuff like this iPhone ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPv9PqnqfM
Just a list of voicemails and who left them with the ability to listen to any or delete them if I don't care what they have to say
Like described here in the commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2PeyLz30E
yea I know what you're talking about. I havent seen an app like that yet but i'd like to see something like that come out soon for us.
I assume that it uses the data connection and/or possibly txt messaging. Otherwise I don't see how they can be doing this. Even with a txt msg list of voicemails, it would take longer than it does in the "demo" video to start playing if it had to dial out and play it on a voice line where as if it downloaded then through a data connection they are on the device ready to play.
That also means that AT&T will most likely charge for the feature if they ever decide to do it for WM Devices.
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
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While simulscribe is a pay service.... Simulsays is not. Yes there are two different things. I figured this one out on my own. So here ya go. Go to Simulsays.com and then setup an acct. Where it wants you to chose a package don't worry about it. The trick is to check no to having your voicemails transcribed. Once you set up your acct. you will download the program that works EXACTLY like Visual Voicemail on the iPhone. It is great. The way this one works is it instructs you to reroute your voicemail to the service and then the program that you then download pulls voicemails at a "set by you" time interval or just at will without auto polling. Hope you can figure it out. If you want to be sure you are not getting charged simply go to the link for support and get the phone number and say hey i want to make sure my acct is set up so that I won't get charged.
I am just not sure if every 'cool' service makes sense!
As the name says already: it is a VOICEMAIL! By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
However, most likely you see on your phone who called anyway, so, you can asume that that was the person leaving a message. If you don't wanna listen to it then don't!
This reminds me somewhat of the new AUDI cell phone which has its own docking slot within the car and takes pictures of intruders. Those pictures then get forwarded to the AUDI CENTER. Audi really expects you to leave your phone in the car all the time ...
By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server.
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I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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And all that only because of people get too lazy to press and hold "1", set your phone on speaker and listen while doing something else?
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
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I'm sorry, but, can you please read through what I've written again? I can't see how you reach any of your conclusions, and, as you've written "[a]s a programmer you should know better", whilst I've clearly stated in the first line that I am not a programmer, I have doubts that you've understood it properly.
As long as the application can register a keypress in the Phone application, I cannot see why it would not work. It expressly does not require an always-on connection to voicemail, hence why the dial-strings I've included contain the voicemail dial number... The string dialled is the based on the options you select, combined with call-log details.
I agree that it is probably not worthwhile in terms of time-saving, but, hey, someone bothered starting this thread
Well, I missed the "no" in the beginning of your post - I appologize for that!
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmachine-for-s60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices ...
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
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Indeed- it would need to call voicemail each time, in my model. However, if someone really wanted a visual voicemail application, then, in the short term, it might work.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmac...60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices .
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As I understand it, that would be a nightmare under WM?
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The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
Your method would require that every single voicemail message that is received by AT&T would be converted and sent to the receiving user (even if they don't use an iPhone) and then if the user was *not* using an iPhone the file would be denied. That would require huge amounts of converting and data transmission for no reason whatsoever. AT&T's out for money like every other company they're not going to waste time and effort developing a system like that when their simplified system works just fine.
Also, it appears that visual voicemail alerts are sent via SMS, and there's a special handler in the SMS app that passes them to phone alerts in the Phone app.
The SMS alert comes from the number 1000000000, its composition is below. Note that I've replaced the relevant mobile number with 8005551212:
smpp-vip.allntxacds12.attwireless.net:5400?f=0&v=300&m=8005551212&p=&t=8005551212:A:AMS_NB_VIP6:ms01::5065
If you attempt to reply in SMS to this number, you get an error message:
Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.
the text message is the trigger for the voicemail
we know how it works now can we get it to work on wm6 and or 5
Short search with the help of Google bring me this solution - http://www.isecretary.net/
WM based voice mail.
Is this what you all wanted?
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
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Wow...why would you say it's false? Do you have an iphone? I can listen to my voicemails when my iphone is in AIRPLANE mode (all raidos and calls disabled)...so either my iphone is lying about being in airplane mode and it's really calling AT&T servers...OR...it really does download the audio voicemail files to your phone.
GrandCentral is your answer ...
Go to GrandCentral.com and signup. You'll probably have to wait, as it is still in private Beta, but not more than a few weeks. Basically, you'll get a free phone number (choose one in your local area) and can route that number to a number of places and can access it in a number of different ways ... including the Internet.
It has voicemail that you can peruse, just like e-mail.
- Unlimited inbound minutes
- Unlimited voicemail
- Unlimited Credit for click-to-call
- All premium features, including call record
And the best part is that it is owned by Google, so it is FREE!!!! Woo hoo!!!!
Youmail has a new beta for visual voicemail with the caller id picture and all.
the also have a beta for voicemail transcription which personally i like better than visual voicemail (when it is accurate ) Its send you a text message after the voivemail is received and transcribed to text.
Its got alot more cool features just check them out on the website.... just thought you guys might be interested.
Its all free check it out at WWW.YOUMAIL.COM
seems your provider will still charge u for fowarding calls
at&t hasn't charged me for forwarding
I've been using YouMail for quite a while and am very pleased with it. It will suck hard when they come out of beta. I still haven't recovered completely from losing just about all of my Jott functionality.
The only thing I'd like is to be able to assign a button, either soft or hardware, to take me right to YouMail, instead of having to open a browser first. Anyone that can clue me in?
louiedoesit said:
seems your provider will still charge u for fowarding calls
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Ya, they charge you for the minutes you are connected to voicemail (through forwarding) but with all of its functionality i think it is worth it
crissg said:
I've been using YouMail for quite a while and am very pleased with it. It will suck hard when they come out of beta. I still haven't recovered completely from losing just about all of my Jott functionality.
The only thing I'd like is to be able to assign a button, either soft or hardware, to take me right to YouMail, instead of having to open a browser first. Anyone that can clue me in?
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I think you could Create a .lnk file containg the browser and then i'm sure you could include a browser command (url link) to direct you to the website automatically. you would then just have to create a registry string for it and place it in the corresponding folder......
I'll do some looking around and see what i can find.
for now though you could just set it as your homepage and then when you open the browser it is already there
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I think you could Create a .lnk file containg the browser and then i'm sure you could include a browser command (url link) to direct you to the website automatically. you would then just have to create a registry string for it and place it in the corresponding folder......
I'll do some looking around and see what i can find.
for now though you could just set it as your homepage and then when you open the browser it is already there
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Thanks for responding,
It stays at the top of my favorites page in SPB MS, so its like 4 taps to get to it from the Now screen.
Not terrible at all, but I've always wanted a way to get to IE favorites directly from the Today screen, or have them available the same way the MRU programs are. I appreciate you looking into it.
I left youmail
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/
http://www.phonefusion.com/
http://mobilitytoday.com/news/009092...n_voicemail_g1
I used youmail for a while, but I was annoyed at a couple things, mostly that I have to download the email on my phone and then download the file, but still a good service.
I found the service above which is close to the same, except it actually is a .cab and the app is launched by the incoming txt and the messages are in a single screen. You can set to download automatically, and that way the app comes up and you can click directly to listen, basically 1 click because it comes up as a notification, like a missed call notification. Pretty cool.
They just came out with a version for the G1 Android that you can see the review on the mobility link, and the others are the main company and the top one is the voicemail. It's pretty easy to set up, and you can try and go back to youmail if it doesn't fit your needs. Also, you can change your greeting on this service, just call the number from your handset once you're set up online.
looks cool but phone fusion says it isn't free......
fusion voicemail plus says it is though?
which one are you using
Free Version
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/
This one is free. I started trying it this morning and I'm pretty happy with it. Your minutes are used, just like on youmail.
What I like about youmail is I can forward my email right to text and I never have to listen to VM. Looks like with phone fusion I only get caller ID info not the messages in the text. Is that right?
-McMex
ya.... but it gives you the "iphone" visual voicemail experience
just a little different setup
No Txt I know of
Correct McMex,
Youmail you get txt to read, but not in Fusion, at least not for free, and I didn't really review any other services from them . Txt just hasn't worked well for me on Youmail because it all looks jarbled, if it does for you that's great. Just another option to look at.
Youmail is working better these days. I have tried many of these services, and youmail is the cheapest, but I wouldnt say the best.
Thanks yes right now with youmail I get an email sent then forward the email and there is a lot of junk around the message in the text. I still prefer that to listening to VM. Thanks for the info guys.
-McMex
i was grandfathered in from the beta so i get the text for free so its not a bad deal for me
cparkhorn said:
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/
This one is free. I started trying it this morning and I'm pretty happy with it. Your minutes are used, just like on youmail.
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I just started using YouMail as it doesn't require me to have an unlimited txt plan. Does Fusion require sms? I have it, but only a 200/month plan. I'm not thrilled about the idea of upgrading my sms plan just for a better voicemail.
Picked up an IO phone, and since we cannot activate the Evo on our Sprint lines yet, I am starting to use my google number for my main number. Figure good time to switch.
Dialing in and out is fine so far. I like that I can control who rings through to what phone etc.
I am not sure I am a fan of how it handles text. Seems like all SMS go into gvoice, AND into handcent, but handcent comes from some 406 number.
Anyone find a way to work around this? Of a way to make texting work more like it does if they text your phone?
Disable Google Voice (on the website) from texting the #, and just use the Google Voice app for SMS w/ the GVoice #.
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Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you're at work.
Yeah, go to the website and disable SMS to your cell phone and just use the google voice application for texts.
sergey.povzner said:
[off topic, but still maybe useful]
Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you at work.
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Cool!
I do something similar at work.
I have my GV calls forwarded to my office desk number and my cell phone at the same time. This way I have the option to answer using my desk number or my cell phone.
Bah, this does not seem like a good solution.
Handcent, Chomp, etc, have a great popup that I really like. Going through google voice app all the time isn't as handy.
I was also a little surprised that I am not able to send or receive mms at all through google voice. So any pictures / links have to be sent directly to my phone.
sergey.povzner said:
[off topic, but still maybe useful]
Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you're at work.
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I've been doing this for years. Never occurred to me to tell anyone else about it. Thanks.
sergey.povzner said:
[off topic, but still maybe useful]
Just recently came up with a somewhat unexpected use for Google Voice: I programmed Google voice number into building's intercom system. Now when somebody tries to get into the building and dials my apartment, all my phones ring. Especially convenient, if you need to talk to UPS guy when you're at work.
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Also very handy if you have roomates.
I use both Handcent and the Google Voice app. I add the 406 number to the contact then I know who I am messaging, and if I delete the message I can still message them from Handcent. I emailed the email for the Google Voice app to see if they would be able to add a quick reply somehow within the app. We shall see how that goes.....
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I use both Handcent and the Google Voice app. I add the 406 number to the contact then I know who I am messaging, and if I delete the message I can still message them from Handcent. I emailed the email for the Google Voice app to see if they would be able to add a quick reply somehow within the app. We shall see how that goes.....
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This won't always work as the number changes depending on when the message is sent.
As for setting it up to not send SMS to my phone, I tried that and it didn't work. You have one of two options if you're in my situation. Tell the GV app to not notify you of anything, essentially making it useless. Or have Handcent block the number that GV sends you texts from. You have to block a new one whenever it shows a new number but it works decently that way. I'm just stuck with getting two messages until friday lol
I am with you. The whole txt message thing is why I'll probably never use google voice for much else besides maybe a call forward.
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This won't always work as the number changes depending on when the message is sent.
As for setting it up to not send SMS to my phone, I tried that and it didn't work. You have one of two options if you're in my situation. Tell the GV app to not notify you of anything, essentially making it useless. Or have Handcent block the number that GV sends you texts from. You have to block a new one whenever it shows a new number but it works decently that way. I'm just stuck with getting two messages until friday lol
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You either have to choose - use the GV app or use Handcent or whatever other SMS proggie you like. If you use the GV app, turn off SMS forwarding and all texts are handled within the GV app itself, no charges for texts with your carrier, and there is no need to deal with 406 numbers because the app is all integrated with your contacts.
If you need to use an SMS proggie, then of course you'll have to forward text to your GV account as SMS' and the benefit of GV is lowered.