Ok, I see three voice dialing applications we can use (please add any others that work!):
1.) Cyberon Voice Speed Dial
2.) Cyberon Voice Commander
3.) Microsoft Voice Command
I've searched the forums and came up with a wealth of conflicting and often outdated information. I'd like a concise thread here detailing the differences between them, how they work on the Titan, and any hacks needed to get them to work, in say the latest DCD ROM or WinMo 6.1.
Here are the things I think I know (In italics) and the things I've got questions on (in bold). Certainly feel free to add opinion on functionality, or additional comparison information, or please correct anything that I thought that was wrong, etc etc etc! Thanks! Then I'll update my original post here so we can have a nice comparison thread...
1.) Cyberon Voice Speed Dial
Is what the phone comes with stock
Allows speed dialing only - no system control
Requires voice tagging of each contact
Does not require any hacks to work
Does not do any Text to Speech.
2.) Cyberon Voice Commander
Allows system control
Does not require training / tagging.
Does it do Text to Speech? Can it do Caller ID Announcement, or SMS Announcement?
Does it require any hacks to work?
Can you activate voice recognition from bluetooth headset?
3.) Microsoft Voice Command
Allows system control
Does not require training / tagging.
Requires hack to get caller ID announcement to work
Does Text to Speech for Caller ID and SMS senders announcement
Can you activate voice recognition from bluetooth headset?
All I can answer for is MSVC since it's what I use. First off, it does NOT require a hack to get caller ID announcement to work. All I had to do was check off a box in the settings and it announces the caller ID information in my ear whenever the phone rings.
Second, yes, the voice recognition works fine from the bluetooth headset. Just hit the headset's action button, wait for the MSVC beep, and speak your command. Everything can be handled that way, and it does it very well.
I 2nd the MCVC... Only drawback for me is its amount of memory that it uses in the background. I use Garmin Mobile XT and it fails to start a lot of the time because of lack of memory. I either need to do a soft reset or reclaim RAM with SKTools... Not a huge deal, but kind of frustrating. Love the functionality of it, though. Works great!
MSVC gets my vote also - just wish the idiots at slorizon would release 6.1 so I can re-install it with working confirmations.
I'm planning on using MSVC once again when I upgrade to the new ROM.
MSVC with MIcrosoft MObile 6.1
I have just gotten started on the Sprint Mogul and have upgraded to MS Mobile 6.1 and installed MSVC V1.6. I can tell you that there are some major issues with this combination.
1. I get the ringtone in the bluetooth earpiece and the phone doesn't ring.
2. The earpiece button does nothing,
3. Voice Command only brings up the contact list but doesn't dial the number.
I have talked to a guru at my local sprint and he has experienced the same problems with another phone of the same type. I'm thinking of reverting to MSMO 6.0 to see if things are different.
If you have any other sources that address these issues, I will take all the help I can get.
Thanks.
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I 2nd the MCVC... Only drawback for me is its amount of memory that it uses in the background. I use Garmin Mobile XT and it fails to start a lot of the time because of lack of memory. I either need to do a soft reset or reclaim RAM with SKTools... Not a huge deal, but kind of frustrating. Love the functionality of it, though. Works great!
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One tip on Voice Command, if you have a lot of media files, disable Media in the voice command settings. For me, Voice Command won't even start with it enabled. Saves quite a lot of memory to disable it.
Voice command 1.6 and Verizon XV6800 issues
I have tried for 3 days to locate a "fix" for using VC 1.6 on my verizon xv6800.
I use a PLT 150 and when i press the button to make a call Voice Speed Dial works. I read about and tried some registry edits but some edits did not "take" i tried but they did not work. I just wnat to know how to use Voice Command 1.6 to call my contacts.
Here is what i tried:
Use MS Voice Command 1.6 instead of the built-in Cyberon Voice Dialer
For those of you who would rather use MS Voice Command instead of the built-in Cyberon Voice Dialer (and who wouldn't...), try this tweak (courtesy of MobiltyToday). I've been using the XV 6800 with a Blue Parrot Truckers Bluetooth headset for about a week now, and it works great!
Installing Voice Command on Verizon XV6800
1. Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial software is embedded with the OS and not as an addon through the Extended ROM. The only way to disable it is to delete the shortcut in the \Windows\Start Menu as well as the SDDaemon.lnk file in the \Windows\Startup folder. Note: If you've already installed Voice Command - don't delete the Voice Command shortcut - just delete the SDDaemon.lnk. This points to the new software!
2. Install Microsoft Voice Command normally. You may be prompted with an erroneous error message saying it's going to install in Main which is fine. Just continue with the installation. Note: this didn't happen with me.
3. The installation will reassign the Messaging button to Voice Command, but you probably want to give that back to the Messaging or other favorite applet. Reassign the Voice Speed Dial button to launch Voice Command. Note: The XV 6800 doesn't have this button - Voice Command goes to the email button in the upper left - you can leave it there or change it with the buttons settings.
4. Lastly, you must modify this registry entry in order to use your Bluetooth headset with Voice Command:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\
Path = "\Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCmd.exe"NOTE: Create the entry if it does not exist.
Clearing out the traces of Voice Speed Dial
1. In these registry locations:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Software \ Microsoft \ Shell \ Extensions \ ContextMenus \ Contacts \ Main_ContextMenu
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Software \ Microsoft \ Shell \ Extensions \ ContextMenus \ Contacts \ Main_Tools
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ Software \ Microsoft \ Shell \ Extensions \ ContextMenus \ Contacts \ Summary_ToolsRemove this key entirely: {2C0E9904-F32D-4f53-875F-479F5CA81E18}
2. In this registry location:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanelRemove this key entirely: VoiceTagCPL
3. In this registry location:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommandChange this value:
Path="\Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCmd.exe"
(It probably points to SDDialer.exe now.)
4. In this folder: \Windows\Startup Remove this file: SDDaemon.lnk (you should have already done this if you followed the instructions above.
5. Reassign the Voice button in Buttons applet under Settings to Voice Command.
Now, soft-reset your device and that should do it. Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial is out of the picture. That is, until you hard reset, then it all comes back.
Can someone help? Thanks!
Finally Fixed!
Thanks to Daniel who posted his "fix" the registry edit above now works on my XV6800!!!
1. Open BT Voice Command Config from Programs. Uncheck XCSdm
2. I put in 2 strings under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand
Default = "\Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe"
Path = "\Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe"
I put "" around the strings - and the voicecmd.exe is SMALL case voicecmd not VoiceCmd.exe
3. Deleted the other keys under VoiceCommand
4. deleted the BT headset pairing - the paired jawbone headset again... perfect.
I am trying to get this to work on my XV6800 but when I try to modify this reg entry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand\
Path="\Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe"
It does not stick. Here is a message I posted to the Q&A forum with more details. I think it has to do with some security policies being pushed down due to sync with Exchange... Any ideas for how I could work around this?
Hey!
I use a vx6800 with a stock 6.1 rom.
I installed several different builds of MSVC and the only one that worked without ANY mods or glitches is v1.6.192009
I purchased an older version that the bluetooth would not work, notifications would not work etc etc. So I did a little research and found this version that worked perfectly!
All I needed to do was to go to start >settings >voice speed dial >settings, and then disable voice speed dial.
Also under programs >voice speed dial switch, you can disable there too!
Most excellent! So simple yet so effective... Looks like disabling the voice speed dial was the piece I was missing. And here I was trying to modify registry entries. Silly me... By the way I am using v1.60.4622.0 (I'm Microsoft Internal so this should work with later versions as well!
Thanks for the help!
mike_mccrady said:
I have just gotten started on the Sprint Mogul and have upgraded to MS Mobile 6.1 and installed MSVC V1.6. I can tell you that there are some major issues with this combination.
1. I get the ringtone in the bluetooth earpiece and the phone doesn't ring.
2. The earpiece button does nothing,
3. Voice Command only brings up the contact list but doesn't dial the number.
I have talked to a guru at my local sprint and he has experienced the same problems with another phone of the same type. I'm thinking of reverting to MSMO 6.0 to see if things are different.
If you have any other sources that address these issues, I will take all the help I can get.
Thanks.
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1. I get the same but it also anounces the caller ID as well. If you have the ear piece on it shouldn't matter it is when you leave the ear piece off and forget the phone is still using it. Doooh.
2. You have to hold the ear piece button down for like 2 seconds or more until you hear the second beep and you will see the microphone icon in the top task bar.
3. If you use the command CALL so in so, It should come back and say call so in so cell, home, work. Or just say call "so in so" cell and it will confirm you say yes and it should dial the number. If it doesn't then find the latest version and install that one.
What version are you using?
I installed several different builds of MSVC and the only one that worked without ANY mods or glitches is v1.6.192009...
I'm not sure if I should ask this question here or start a new thread. I have a stock HTC 6800 (small carrier, not sprint or verizon) out of the box running 6.0 and would like to purchase MSVC. From everything I have been able to read, some of you have it working properly and some don't. Is anyone running 6.0 without updated roms, etc., and have MSVC working properly?
Thanks!
Tim
I could not get it to work properly with 6.0
The 6.1 update fixed incompatability issues with MSVC.
I tried some of the hacks and reg adjustments but could never get it to work up to my standards.... There are notification fixes that doo work so you can make cand rec calls just fine but I couldn't get the bluetooth confirmation issue to work...
Thank you! I greatly appreciate the response!
Ok. I purchased MSVC and it is "partially" working, but no incoming anouncements, etc.
How/Where do I find version 1.6.192009 that was mentioned in previous post? I did a search but came up with zip...
I really need to have it working completely. When it snows I'm in a 15,000 lb. Loader doing snow removal and leave the house at 2:30/am. It would sure be nice to be able to decide "before" answering if I need to stop the loader to answer, or if its a text or e-mail. Particularily if I'm half way up a really nasty driveway...LOL
Thanks!
I need to correct my previous post. When MSVC is activated with my BT headset it recognizes the request (call work) then asks for confirmation but does not dial. Guess i was not a close as I thought. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!
I have it working now..
I turned off the "annouce incoming caller" in settings, did a soft reset, and it started announcing incoming calls. It is also announcing text messages, e-mails, and calander reminders all via BT earpiece. Way Cool! At 3:00/am this morning while under a loader making minor repairs, it announced who was calling. Unfortunately, it was one of my drivers with another repair issue...
Thanks for the great site!!!
Tim
installed ms voice command on my mogul and it works as intended no issues.
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I have successfully installed and used Microsoft Voice Command 1.50.4333.21 on the i-mate K-JAM.
You must first disable Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial Daemon by deleting the SDaemon.lnk file in \Windows\Startup, then soft-reset.
Install Microsoft Voice Command normally to the main memory, ignoring the erroneous error message about file placement.
Reassign the Voice Speed Dial button to Voice Command and the Messaging button back to whatever you had last (likely the Messaging applet).
I tested it with Contacts, Digit Dial, Media Player, and Appointments, all successfully! It does not recognize Contacts on the SIM card - only those in the database.
I had to change a registry entry, since pressing the button calls the original Voice Dial Tag applet.
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand]
"Path"="\"\\Program Files\\Voice Command\\VoiceCmd.exe\""
Paste it as a .REG file and import it using Resco Explorer 2005.
But, bottom line: YES, IT ACTIVATES VOICE COMMAND OVER THE BLUETOOTH HEADSET.
hi buddy
this is good news, especially that it is possible to initiate the call from headset (and i guess it will work on my parrot ck3100 too then!). can't wait to have one - don't make me jealouse ;-)
cheers, lutz
Good job BTT!
Good Job!
I just applied the change and note the following of interest:
1. If you use voice-command to launch an application the audio remains redirected to the headset until you hit the button again.
2. (And this applies with the built-in package as well) If the device is in standby you get a pause, then static. No prompts occur and no voice commands are accepted.
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX
robinton said:
Good Job!
I just applied the change and note the following of interest:
1. If you use voice-command to launch an application the audio remains redirected to the headset until you hit the button again.
2. (And this applies with the built-in package as well) If the device is in standby you get a pause, then static. No prompts occur and no voice commands are accepted.
Robert Harrold
Houston, TX
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I have the same issue with all headsets that I've tried: Blusepoon AX, GG Telecom, Moto H500. People are reporting no issues with Sony Ericsson and JAbra :shock:
I am getting a similar problem on my Blutrek G2.
BT Voice Dial works once, first time I turn on my Blutooth headset. Here's my sequence:
1. I turn the G2 on and it locates the KJam.
2. I press the G2 button once, it opens the audio channel and I get the VC prompt.
3. I say the VC command and it peforms the request.
... but after that, I cannot get an audio channel to open up again...?
I have tried turning the G2 off and then on again, but still no audio when I press the G2 button. The only way I can get it to open an audio channel again is to soft re set the KJAM.
Any ideas on how to solve this one...?
Regards
Chris
Didn't we already discuss this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29837
I am having the same exact problem that cbrow51 is having except I am using a HS850 headset.
Any ideas?
Thanks
I have a Parrot CK3100 Car Kit and an M5000. I used to have an M2000 and when I pressed the Green handset on the handsfree car kit, it let me use the voice dialling I set up within the Parrot. With the M5000 it takes me to the PDA's own voice dialling, which I don't have set up properly, and tbh I don't think is as good.
Is there a way I can make it use the Parrot not the PDA? One thing I've just thought, I upgraded the firmware on the Parrot, maybe that wiped my phone numbers from it, along with any voice dialling. Would it then default to the PDA's own method?
The last question. If I get MS Voice Commander, which lets you voice dial anyone in your contacts, or open any applications without having to record your voice in advance, is it possible to get the voice dialling to use this? This is obviously the best thing as you can dial literally anyone without having to pre-record your voice.
what version of parrot sw do you have ?¿?
Regards
Do you mean its firmware? I think the latest as I've used the update tool with my laptop on it recently.
Hi Andy,
I've also got the Parrot CK3100 and the M5000. The Parrot has a menu option (I think under advanced settings > voice control) to choose between Parrot or mobile device for voice dialling.
Without MS Voice Commander installed you will need to train each voice command on the M5000/Parrot. However I have MS Voice Commander installed on my M5000 with the BT registry hack:
Fire up a registry editor
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
Modify the string marked "path" from the default \Windows\SDDialer.exe to \Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe
This allows me full voice control (without training) for applications, dialling etc. I do have some isses with background noise when using MS VC but that's cause I've got a small car and it's noisy inside. Also the BT link and MS VC don't seem to work perfectly together as the speakers usually get un-muted when you have to respont (only muted when MS VC speaks or beeps) to the MS VC prompt which if you have the stereo on at that time causes more background noise. I find with the stereo off I get about 90% accuracy.
Also a handy tip I found in the Parrot forum here:
http://www.parrot.biz/forums/english/viewtopic.php?id=646
Get Pocket Informant which can send all you contacts to the Parrot in one go, read the post for info. Works for me.
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When I want to use voice dial I say the name of the person I want it to dial, then it repeats what I've said back at me. I find that really annoying for some reason. Is there a way to make it just dial without repeating what I've said first?
if ur using voice command u can uncheck the 'confirm' option but u may call the wrong person sometimes if u dont pronouce it clearly
where is the "confirm" option, I can't find it anywhere...
Only MS Voice Commander not the default WM5 one
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Only MS Voice Commander not the default WM5 one
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There seems to be much confusion regarding Voice Dialing software. There are three versions:
CVD - Cyberon Voice Dial (comes installed on Cingular 8125 and some other WM5 Phones)
CVC - Cyberon Voice Commander (the Retail Version and big brother to CVD)
MSVC - Microsoft Voice Command
The low down on these (this is my opinion based on using all three)
CVD isn't worth what they charge for it (yes I know it's free)...
1. You have to specifically record voice tags for each contact.
2. It only does dialing, no PDA functionas included.
CVC is cheap at on $15.00 and has a couple of functions that are nice like reading SMS messages to you and OEM integration with your bluetooth headset but I don't like it because...
1. The initial delay and waiting for the voice to prompt you is just too long.
2. Voice recgonition is spotty.
MSVC is the luxury version of these programs. With a little hacking you can get it to play with your bluetooth headset (mostly). It is fairly quick to be ready for your voice command (just wait for the beep). Finally it has the best voice recgonition of the three. The downside of MSVC...
1. It costs $40.00 but I've been using it for almost a year (bought it from Handango when they e-mailed me a 20% off coupon) and it's worth every penny.
Bob
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@ Kyphur
Thank you for that good and clear explanation. Always wondered the main differences.
Hi There Professionals,
I was enjoying Cyberon voice speed dial very much with my k-jam.
I removed the Cyberon Voice Commander that came with my new trinity in order to put the good old Voice speed dial - But then.......
First problem - it wasn't registered as a program so the push and talk button on the right side of the trinity couldn't be set to activate it - SOLVED! - I planted a link to the program in the start menu and associated the button to it.
But the main problem still exists. Now as I tap my Bluetooth headset, it just opens the system dialpad (instead of the Voice speed dial listening app.).
Can this issue be resolved? How do I associate the headset one tap voice dial activation command to start the Cyberon Voice Speed Dial Software?
Many Thanks
Alon
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You need to hack the registry to fix this. There have been dozens of similar posts.
Go to HOTKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/OEM/VoiceCommand/
You need to set the "Path" key to point to your Voice Speed Dial program. This is what it looks like for Voice Commander:
\Program Files\Cyberon\VoiceCommander\Voicecommander.exe
I can't remember what the exe file is for Voice Speed Dial, so you will need to find that and set the path accordingly.
If the String Value called Path is not there, you will need to add it. This will ensure that when you hit the button on your BT Headset, this program will start.
re:
It's All set - actually, the "voice speed dial" installation must have planted it Value name: Path
Value data: \Windows\SDDialer.exe
and still the headset opens the system dialpad.
did someone manage to set this for the trinity ?
Please help me.
Alon
Hi,guys
I have a nnoying voice teeling me the name and number of the caller when a new call comes in . How do I switch it off. It was not there before I Installed some voice applications-
I have Unsinalled them subsequentely but the announcement remains
I installed couple of voice controllers to test on my new HD
Cyberon voice commander V1.6
Vito Voice to GO
And microsoft voice commander 1.6SP
The Microsoft did not fully installed.
May be it is the cause.
solution to This will be also interesting for people who actually want callerid annouced . e.g. while driving
regards
Anil
Sounds very much like microsoft voice commander as I had it announcing incoming calls on a Tytn. I would suggest to try the uninstall again (also from active sync window) and then check the registry.
solved - STOP announcing incoimng call - callerid
Yes It was microsofy voice commander. Removed all registry entries and also the folder- (it was not showing in installed progarmmes due to failed installation)
Thank you very much
Anil