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Connection preference settings

Hi,
I have had a search to see if this has been covered before but maybe I am using the wrong query.
I have an O2 Exec with the latest O2 Rom, and now when I do an email send and receive, the GPRS connection stays up. Whereas I could have sworn in the earlier ROM it disconnected after the send/receive.
I spoke to O2 and they assured me that it is supposed to do that, and since I only get charged for actaul data transfer, I can sit connected to GPRS all day for free (is this correct).
Now, my main question is. Say GPRS is up and connected, and I turn on WIFI or plug into my PC using the charger/sync cable and then do a send and receive. Will the Exec use these free connections or still route data over the GPRS?
I did a test and it looked as though when I did this, the GPRS connection was shut down, as after a send/receive and then disable WIFI, the connection setting showed a large U and not the connected icon.
I am now sitting with a GPRS connection active, email is set to manual and I have Pocket Weather set to 'Auto update on connection' and 'Auto update on Active Sync', but 'Use connection manager' is disabled as is 'Force a connect when not available'.
Should this mean that no data is used at all and that I can sit connected at no cost.
Sorry for the long rambling post, but I am a complete newbie to all this GPRS pda thing.
regards,
/Mad

related question - how to stop gprs connecting automatically
My wifi router at home is dodgy and sometimes the signal drops - this means my exec switches over automatically to GPRS (I'm not in a 3G area) and starts whacking up a big data bill before I realise. Is there anyway of getting it to ask me if I want to connect to GPRS - rather than it just telling me thats what its doing? Can't turn the phone off cos I still need to receive calls.
I did think of just scarmbling my connection settings, but now I've upgraded to the latest O2 rom the connections settings page does not show any existing connections! (I also can't get TomTom to run at all now but I guess I'll work through that one :-( )
Thanks,
John

I believe this is what you are looking for. Y
ou can set which connections programs use for thier internet access in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced, Select Networks.
Choosing My Work Network or My ISP should stop programs sucking up your money.

Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks

Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the sam
webbyfoot said:
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
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Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the same problem

Derrr...
EDIT: Hey I've just read what I've written below and its exavctly what Preditor suggested - funny didn't work when I tried ........ I guess it was because I was trying 'My ISP' without gprs settings - which complained - whereas 'My Work Network' without gprs settings allows the wifi to connect ... :?
I've now got a workaround for this - means going through the menus every time I DO want GPRS data - but thats rare till I get a better contract which will have to wait till my 12 months with O2 is up in November.. web'n'walk sounds good - unlimited gprs :-o - (could T-Mobile really tell when I was using my XDa as a modem for my laptop - which is forbidden in the terms of this contarct - and when I was just usng data for its own programs - which is allowed ??)
Anyway what I do is settings>connections>advanced>Select Networks> choose My Work Network for programs connecting to the internet. I have no gprs settings in My Work Network but it connects to wifi no problem.
So when I forget and I'm out of wifi range I get an error that it can't connect, so change the setting back to 'MY ISP' and GPRS kicks in.
A Today Screen shortcut to the Network Management screen would help - but I'm almost always using wifi so I haven't bothered.
John

GPRS keeps auto connecting, chowing battery

I have SPB pocket plus on my prophet (latest dopod rom)...
Is it possible to make it that I have to manually connect GPRS (other than going via control panel), other than letting it connect whenever it damnwell pleases? It eats the battery alive with GPRS simply staying on and idle like that!
Regarding SPB, is it possible to put an icon to connect to a SPECIFIC GPRS connection in there? With SPB gprs monitor, there is an icon, yes, but it only connects to the DEFAULT gprs connection. Also, once you click disconnect, it simply reconnects again in 20sec for some reason.
Thx

howzit, my china
i don't know of anything allowing a quick shortcut to connect/dc your GPRS, but what i've done is set my preferred networks to My ISP (which is one of the default profiles, IIRC) and My Work Network. this way, the GPRS _never_ connects, unless i specifically, and deliberately, manually connect. i very rarely require GPRS (i always use wireless networks - they're abundant here in germany), so by taking the GPRS profile out of my preferred networks, i don't have to worry about it connecting without my knowledge, clocking up crazy costs. crazy!
my question to you, though, is what is trying to connect so frequently? have you set your email accounts to check for new mail every few minutes? i'd have a look at your settings and make sure.
other than that, i can't think of much else...
later, my broe broe
(sorry, can't resisit being stereotypically south african, given the chance...)

lol, "ja swaer"
i've also made a dummy connection that doesnt work, so GPRS doesnt auto connect now unless i manually connect, but it's a schlepp to do it everytime...

If u do search guys maybe u can find everything u want,
However;
try this
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_en.htm :wink:

Connections Question

Hi All,
New to my fantastic HD Touch so apologise if this is an obvious question..
If I have wifi enabled and data connection enabled, if i go onto the internet or, say, Youtube for aguments sake, will it use the Wifi connection as a priority over the data connection?
I ask because i want to keep my bills down without having to manually keep turning the data connection off (it connects every 5 mins to check for email)
Thanks
Loving this forum by the way!!

Depends on how the connection is set up. You can check your config by going to settings->connections->connections->advanced->select networks
There is then a drop down under the heading "Programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using:". When I bought mine this was set to "Contract Internet" which basically means my vodafone data connection. I managed to run up a bill of over £50 before I spotted this (this was before I moved to a decent data package).
I changed this setting to "My Work Network" and it then used the wifi in preference to the cell connection. However, I think (although haven't scientifically tested) that if a program gets a cell connection before the wifi is activated then it may not automatically switch over if wifi is subsequently enabled.
BTW I tested all this using a $10 app called GPRS Traffic Monitor (which can monitor HSDPA as well as GPRS) to see if the traffic figures rose while browsing the net with wifi on and off. After changing my settings the data usage figures only went up if wifi was off.

Multiple APN's?

I have enabled multiple APN's in my ROM (Vodafone UK SIM) by changing the registry entries:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\RIL\OperatorContexts\23415] ;Vodafone UK
"GPRSContextNumber"=dword:3
"UMTSContextNumber"=dword:3
This allows me to have two simultaneous data connections (HSDPA/3G/GPRS). I noticed yesterday that when a voice call is made or received the 2nd data connection is disconnected and then reestablished when the call has ended. I changed each of the registry entries to 5 but the behaviour is still the same.
Is this a limitation of the ROM or the mobile contract? Is it possible to have two data connections as well as a voice call active at the same time? I use BlackBerry Connect and this keeps its data connection permanently active, if I browse the web or open another application that uses the Internet then the Vodafone GPRS connection gets established. I have now started to use Office Communicator Mobile 2007 R2 quite a lot and this uses the Internet data connection, however if a voice call is established then the OC 2007 R2 connection gets broken since the 2nd data connection is disconnected. This then screws up the presence status of OC 2007 R2.
Cheers
Andy

Solved....
I have now been moved over to Exchange ActiveSync and have removed BlackBerry Connect (thankfully..). However I am still having an issue
With BlackBerry Connect there was always a permanent data connection to the BlackBerry APN. Opening an Internet connection would cause a 2nd data connection to be made (to Vodafone APN). However if a voice call was made the Internet connection was dropped for the duration of the voice call. Now I have removed BlackBerry Connect I assumed that the data call would no longer disconnect as there is now only ever one active data connection. It seems I was wrong?
I have verified the GPRSContextNumber & UMTSContextNumber values in the registry for the Vodafone UK OperatorContexts are set to 3 (as they were previously) but the data connection is dropped when a voice call is made?
Solved it now after a bit more searching
There is a registry value that can be changed 'AllwaysOn' for each of the data connections that are configured on your device. On mine it was this:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\Vodafone GPRS]
"AlwaysOn"=dword:00000001
Some of the tweak utilities allow you to change this as well.
I assume on other devices the GUID will vary as well as the name you gave the connection settings - I used Vodafone GPRS.
Cheers
Andy

Andy,
Thanks for sharing your findings!
7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA is the default GUID for ConnMgr providers, will be the same on all devices. Connection names will vary indeed.
As regards your original problem, I think there could be several causes:
1. Concurrent PDP contexts limit in hardware, see
http://www.qualcomm.com/common/documents/white_papers/Multiple_PDP_Contexts_UMTS.pdf
2. ConnMgr is dropping insecure connection(s) when a connection to a secure network is required
I'm afraid your Internet APN may still go down when you place a phone call, however due to AlwaysOn it's reactivated instantly. Personally I never played with 2 contexts, but I've seen this behavior with AlwaysOn VPN connections.

stepw said:
Andy,
Thanks for sharing your findings!
7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA is the default GUID for ConnMgr providers, will be the same on all devices. Connection names will vary indeed.
As regards your original problem, I think there could be several causes:
1. Concurrent PDP contexts limit in hardware, see
http://www.qualcomm.com/common/documents/white_papers/Multiple_PDP_Contexts_UMTS.pdf
2. ConnMgr is dropping insecure connection(s) when a connection to a secure network is required
I'm afraid your Internet APN may still go down when you place a phone call, however due to AlwaysOn it's reactivated instantly. Personally I never played with 2 contexts, but I've seen this behavior with AlwaysOn VPN connections.
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What about the value under \HKLM\Software\OEM\RIL\SAPOperatorList? Can this be trusted to be my providers OperatorContext number(s)?
Rob
Rob

stepw said:
Andy,
Thanks for sharing your findings!
7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA is the default GUID for ConnMgr providers, will be the same on all devices. Connection names will vary indeed.
As regards your original problem, I think there could be several causes:
1. Concurrent PDP contexts limit in hardware, see
http://www.qualcomm.com/common/documents/white_papers/Multiple_PDP_Contexts_UMTS.pdf
2. ConnMgr is dropping insecure connection(s) when a connection to a secure network is required
I'm afraid your Internet APN may still go down when you place a phone call, however due to AlwaysOn it's reactivated instantly. Personally I never played with 2 contexts, but I've seen this behavior with AlwaysOn VPN connections.
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As I said it is now fixed as I only ever have a single APN connection as I have moved over to Exchange ActiveSync and have also changed the 'AllwaysOn' registry value for the default GPRS connection.
Andy

modem

When setting up connections in my HD, the modem options available for selection are: bt, <carrier's> GPRS, <carrier's> data and hayes compatiable. Is it possible to add a wifi in the selection.
What I want is to restrict internet connection to wifi only. Is there a way to do that? If stock rom can't, any cooked rom can?
I don't see any technical difficulty for the manufacturer to provide such function. But what I know is only iPhone provide such setting. Is this a under-table consent between phone maker and carrier to "encourage" client to use chargeable data services?

senderj said:
When setting up connections in my HD, the modem options available for selection are: bt, <carrier's> GPRS, <carrier's> data and hayes compatiable. Is it possible to add a wifi in the selection.
What I want is to restrict internet connection to wifi only. Is there a way to do that? If stock rom can't, any cooked rom can?
I don't see any technical difficulty for the manufacturer to provide such function. But what I know is only iPhone provide such setting. Is this a under-table consent between phone maker and carrier to "encourage" client to use chargeable data services?
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If you use 'no data' you can permanently toggle off Internet, wap etc so only available option left is wifi. If at some stage you want to use wap, GPRS etc, just toggle it back on.