Do any of you know of or think that the iPhone style Voice-mail service will be coming to Windows Mobile devices soon? (At no additional cost )
Unfortunately I found the first feature the iPhone has that I currently see no alternative solution for.
Still, I would never get an iPhone but would love to have the ability to browse Voice-mails like TXT messages. Delete without listening to. Seems like something that should be available to all and is long overdue!
nothing free as of yet but here's the one if you willing to pay.
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[url]http://www.viewyourvoicemail.com/?gclid=CLXJp5vLm48CFQh6gwodJUFoeQ[/url]
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
I didn't actually mean get Voicemails as TXT messages, I meant be able to browse through them rather than listen to one at a time and have to skip if you don't want to delete one and stuff like this iPhone ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPv9PqnqfM
Just a list of voicemails and who left them with the ability to listen to any or delete them if I don't care what they have to say
Like described here in the commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2PeyLz30E
yea I know what you're talking about. I havent seen an app like that yet but i'd like to see something like that come out soon for us.
I assume that it uses the data connection and/or possibly txt messaging. Otherwise I don't see how they can be doing this. Even with a txt msg list of voicemails, it would take longer than it does in the "demo" video to start playing if it had to dial out and play it on a voice line where as if it downloaded then through a data connection they are on the device ready to play.
That also means that AT&T will most likely charge for the feature if they ever decide to do it for WM Devices.
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
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While simulscribe is a pay service.... Simulsays is not. Yes there are two different things. I figured this one out on my own. So here ya go. Go to Simulsays.com and then setup an acct. Where it wants you to chose a package don't worry about it. The trick is to check no to having your voicemails transcribed. Once you set up your acct. you will download the program that works EXACTLY like Visual Voicemail on the iPhone. It is great. The way this one works is it instructs you to reroute your voicemail to the service and then the program that you then download pulls voicemails at a "set by you" time interval or just at will without auto polling. Hope you can figure it out. If you want to be sure you are not getting charged simply go to the link for support and get the phone number and say hey i want to make sure my acct is set up so that I won't get charged.
I am just not sure if every 'cool' service makes sense!
As the name says already: it is a VOICEMAIL! By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
However, most likely you see on your phone who called anyway, so, you can asume that that was the person leaving a message. If you don't wanna listen to it then don't!
This reminds me somewhat of the new AUDI cell phone which has its own docking slot within the car and takes pictures of intruders. Those pictures then get forwarded to the AUDI CENTER. Audi really expects you to leave your phone in the car all the time ...
By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server.
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I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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And all that only because of people get too lazy to press and hold "1", set your phone on speaker and listen while doing something else?
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
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I'm sorry, but, can you please read through what I've written again? I can't see how you reach any of your conclusions, and, as you've written "[a]s a programmer you should know better", whilst I've clearly stated in the first line that I am not a programmer, I have doubts that you've understood it properly.
As long as the application can register a keypress in the Phone application, I cannot see why it would not work. It expressly does not require an always-on connection to voicemail, hence why the dial-strings I've included contain the voicemail dial number... The string dialled is the based on the options you select, combined with call-log details.
I agree that it is probably not worthwhile in terms of time-saving, but, hey, someone bothered starting this thread
Well, I missed the "no" in the beginning of your post - I appologize for that!
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmachine-for-s60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices ...
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
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Indeed- it would need to call voicemail each time, in my model. However, if someone really wanted a visual voicemail application, then, in the short term, it might work.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmac...60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices .
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As I understand it, that would be a nightmare under WM?
thedogger said:
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
Your method would require that every single voicemail message that is received by AT&T would be converted and sent to the receiving user (even if they don't use an iPhone) and then if the user was *not* using an iPhone the file would be denied. That would require huge amounts of converting and data transmission for no reason whatsoever. AT&T's out for money like every other company they're not going to waste time and effort developing a system like that when their simplified system works just fine.
Also, it appears that visual voicemail alerts are sent via SMS, and there's a special handler in the SMS app that passes them to phone alerts in the Phone app.
The SMS alert comes from the number 1000000000, its composition is below. Note that I've replaced the relevant mobile number with 8005551212:
smpp-vip.allntxacds12.attwireless.net:5400?f=0&v=300&m=8005551212&p=&t=8005551212:A:AMS_NB_VIP6:ms01::5065
If you attempt to reply in SMS to this number, you get an error message:
Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.
the text message is the trigger for the voicemail
we know how it works now can we get it to work on wm6 and or 5
Short search with the help of Google bring me this solution - http://www.isecretary.net/
WM based voice mail.
Is this what you all wanted?
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
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Wow...why would you say it's false? Do you have an iphone? I can listen to my voicemails when my iphone is in AIRPLANE mode (all raidos and calls disabled)...so either my iphone is lying about being in airplane mode and it's really calling AT&T servers...OR...it really does download the audio voicemail files to your phone.
GrandCentral is your answer ...
Go to GrandCentral.com and signup. You'll probably have to wait, as it is still in private Beta, but not more than a few weeks. Basically, you'll get a free phone number (choose one in your local area) and can route that number to a number of places and can access it in a number of different ways ... including the Internet.
It has voicemail that you can peruse, just like e-mail.
- Unlimited inbound minutes
- Unlimited voicemail
- Unlimited Credit for click-to-call
- All premium features, including call record
And the best part is that it is owned by Google, so it is FREE!!!! Woo hoo!!!!
I am on verizonwireless.com website and can't find where to activate 3G service for my Xoom? Can someone that has done this list the steps so I don't have to speak to a human?
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I am on verizonwireless.com website and can't find where to activate 3G service for my Xoom? Can someone that has done this list the steps so I don't have to speak to a human?
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Well, I was able to get the Verizon service on my Xoom but signing up on the website for My Verizon to see my data usage has been a nightmare. The issue is that their process sends a text message to the device which contains a temporary password in order to complete the registration. Obviously, the Xoom cannot send or receive text messages. After being on hold forever, I was told a password would be sent to me by snail mail in a few days. Has anyone else here experienced this? It does not sound like Verizon prepared in any way for this.
After talking with Verizon it took 3-4 days and I got my letter in the mail. A pain but not too bad.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
Worth trying:
Go to a Verizon store and ask them to add a phone to your account long enough to get the text and activate your account, make sure they take the phone off of your account.
There are fees attached to activation, but losing a Xoom sale might be worth them waving it for you.
Anyone figured out how to activate it online?
If you get one over the weekend, the activation is waived... That's as of now, but don't know for how long. If you call about the text, they will remove it, and setup/activation instructions should've come with it if you got it from Verizon. If you got it elsewhere, you're best off goin to a local store than dealing with CS over the phone, as it gives you an opprotunity to talk to a human being about data packages and any other services you want/don't want.
**Also, to save on your data, set the xoom to connect to wifi automatically and I downloaded an "airplane mode" widget from the market to keep data off when I don't want my xoom on my 3g misbehavin and using data. Good luck and enjoy your gadget.
Hi Everybody!
I own an ICONIA A501 since 4 days and I love it!
Since I use a prepaid account to connect to the internet (vodafone.de) I want to recharge that account with some money as soon as it go towards zero Euros...
Well, in order to do that I have to buy some voucher and then call a number (which is free of charge). And here the problems begin:
I need to be able to place calls with a dialer so that I can enter the code on the voucher. As far as I discovered there are no such apps on the A501.
Then I installed some USSD code apps but they didn't work, just like the app "myDialer lite". I can dial but then nothing happens.
Correct me if I am wrong but did Google/Acer simply forget that there are users out there which do not have data plans but prepaid accounts?
I don't want to use my A501 like a Smartphone! For that purpose I have and love my Galaxy I9003.
Are there ANY solutions? At the moment I have at least 2 ways: 1) swap the SIM with another phone and 2) let my prepaid provider draw the money from my credit card.
However, I hope someone has some other approach!
Best regards,
Werner
because the tablet do not support phone call features...
only 3G/Edge/GPRS
I try to find the documentation about this
sanaell said:
because the tablet do not support phone call features...
only 3G/Edge/GPRS
I try to find the documentation about this
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Hi,
thanks for the reply. I know that the tablet is not intended to be a phone. Would be rather funny to put it to the ear...
However, for those like me with prepaid account it would have been nice to enable us to send at least USSD codes in order to check balance of the prepaid account. I hope I can make it clear.
I really DO NOT want to place regular phone calls (it would be a nice feature though), just call the service line in order to re-charge my prepaid account.
I know this sounds like: "He do not want to use the tablet like a mobile phone but he wants to use it like a mobile phone..."
It's weird I know, but my prepaid provider (Edeka Mobil; uses vodafone.de) give the option to buy a voucher and then call the "Kontomanager" free of charge. During the call I will have to enter the cash code number and then the amount will be credited to my prepaid account. Therefore I am in need of a dialer for phoning AND typing. And IMO Google/Acer forgot us prepaid users.
Werner
I understand well
what I mean is... the tablet will act more as like a Dongle 3G rather than a phone...
I think you can't have the way "not sure" to use for send SMS or MMS or USSD or call... with the tablet...
I agree the tablet does not have the hardware to Dial out to a service. Check and see if the carrier has a update web site to do what you for purchase. Or check out the Google voice service they give you a phone number that routs phone information to txt Google email and chat
But I do not know much about its limits or ability or availability in your country
Good luck
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Correct me if I am wrong but did Google/Acer simply forget that there are users out there which do not have data plans but prepaid accounts?
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I don't think they forgot. It is just that your specific need is not significant enough to have it included in the tablet itself when compared with the amount of users that do not use this specific way to connect to the internet.
As far as solutions goes I was thinking that maybe you could setup a SIP on your tablet: this should allow you to make and receive phone calls over the internet. I have an EVO and I was able to make phone calls with it while having the 'phone' radio off (using wifi), the only problem I see is that you'll need to have a dialer somewhere (SIP droid integrated itself into the dialer so you could set it up as the default gateway for calls or use on a specific pattern basis like GV and intl calls)
SIPdroid setup is very easy (username and pass) but the SIP provider itself might not be that easy to setup (you need to setup rules for inc calls, outgoing.. also you need to connect your GV acct with the SIP and so on)
Thanks so much for all comments!
Fortunately, my internet provider has a web interface where I can query my balance and, if I want to put money to my prepaid account, they let me do it via credit card.
That's okay for me.
To all: have a nice day!
Werner
I have just found your thread (after having posted one before ).
However, I have the same problem. Are you using fyve? I need to recharge the data plan, but cannot do it since I cannot do any phone calls. On the fyve website, I did not find any web interface to enter my code.
This is my first article, but I thought I might share my experience achieving this on Rogers.
The main subject of this article covers my experience in getting Visual Voice Mail (VVM) working on the SGS2 with Rogers. This may also be easily applicable under any Android device with another carrier.
I've managed to come up with this solution after reading a couple of different websites that didn't specifically explain the whole process. So the idea here is to make it easier for Canadian residents to get their hands on VVM without needing an iphone or relying on their carrier for their Voicemail needs.
There are some costs involved, but these seem minimal (from my perspective) and quite worth it.
Disclaimer: This method worked for me on Rogers with SGS2 by taking the steps explained here. I take no responsibility if something breaks, spontaneously catches fire or if your neighbor kills your dog. In other words, do it at your own risk.
Requirements:
SGS2
Google Voice Account (GV)
Google Voice App installed
Credit Card
Make sure you back up your settings and information before proceeding.
Step 1 - Setting up Google voice.
This article assumes that you currently have a working google voice account.
If you don't, a quick google search on the subject will explain to you the process for getting a GV account in Canada.
The main setting that needs to be addressed is enabling "Do Not Disturb" permanently under "Calls" in settings.
The main drawback is that if you wish to use GV as your voicemail provider, you will need to sacrifice it's calling receiving feature, as it will direct all calls directly to voice mail under this mode.
Additionally, setting up a message for whoever might be calling is also not a bad idea. But you can live with the default message provided by google by default
Step 2 - Getting a forwarding Number
This step involves getting a local or toll free number that you will use as a forwarder for your busy/unanswered/unreachable calls.
Obviously, you'd be incurring long distance charges if you were to get your voicemail calling the US every time somebody leaves a message... Not ideal wallet wise.
I went with http://www.voip.ms, they offer either local numbers or toll free numbers that you can use as a forwarding platform for your GV number.
First off, you need to sign up, fairly straight forward process.
Once you have activated your account, you will need to add some money to your account, the minimum credit that you can buy is $25. This is done under "Finances/Add Funds".
Next, you will need to set up your forwarding number. This is done in "DID Numbers/Call Forwarding". You just click "Add Forwarding", enter the GV phone number and save.
With these credits and the forwarding set up, you'll be able to add a DID Number to your account for a monthly fee (which will be charged on the credit balance). This is done through "DID Numbers/Order DID(s)".
Multiple options are presented to you, two of which would be interesting in this case:
Local Numbers/Canada
Toll Free Numbers/Canada+United States
I chose to go with the Toll Free, for a $1.49 monthly fee + $0.032 (3.2cents) every 6 seconds. That's like $25 tops for a year (if you have people overkilling your voicemail).
They offer a selection of numbers to choose from, pick the one you like the most.
Under "DID POP", choose the closest city to your current location.
Under "Routing", select Forwarding, which should have the GV number you set up earlier
Then just click on the "Click Here to confirm your order".
At this point your forwarding is set up. You may give it a try by calling the number that was provided to you and see if it routes to your GV.
Step 3 - Setting up your phone.
There are a couple of options here. If you don't currently have voicemail with your carrier, you may skip the next paragraph. If you are like me and did have voicemail service enable, read on.
I found out the hard way with Rogers that when you have voicemail service, they block the forwarding on the phone; either you forward all calls, or you don't forward at all. To remedy this, I just called sales and after explaining the situation (me wanting to use a different voicemail system that required forwarding to be enabled but not wanting to loose any of my current features in the plan - I have an iPhone value pack) they managed to disable the voicemail which allowed me to proceed with the phone setup.
Now you can set up forwarding by going to "Settings/Call/Call Forwarding/Voice Call".
In this screen, 4 options will be available:
Always Forward
Forward when busy *
Forward when unanswered *
Forward when unreachable *
You need to set up the last 3 (the ones with the * on the previous list) with the phone number that you obtained from voip.ms.
Also ensure that GV is set up on your phone and that you have activated the voicemail features on it (it will give you an error message saying that it cannot set up properly, just ignore it).
At this point, you should be able to call your cel, reject the call and direct the caller to GV for your visual voicemail needs. You will then receive the messages in your GV inbox, visually!
This worked for me and I am rather happy with the result. Hope this helps.
Let me know if you have any questions.
References:
http://adrielservice.com/blog/?p=394
Update:
I found out that carriers mask your outgoing number along with any caller ID information when calling toll free numbers. This was preventing GV from telling me what phone number the message was from as it was receiving the call from the Rogers masked generic number. This was solved by obtaining a local DID. Only disadvantage being that if you move around, the voicemail messages may become long distance calls.
Other than that, my experience with GV is great, love the visual voicemail on the Android.
Update: I've been using this method for the last 4 months and it has been working wonderfully, provided you have data access.
I also found out that Rogers was charging me for each forwarding call; I signed up for a $3 forwarding plan which offers unlimited forwarding, not including the used minutes.