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Defaulting SMS reports on

Hey everybody,
I really miss the SMSreport feature from my old mobile phones!! Even though you can turn it on individually for every SMS you send, this is not really an option if you send a lot of text messages :-(
There must be a registry entry where you can change the default from reports off to reports on. Does somebody know what this is?
If other people would like this problem fixed, please say so in this or some other post, to encourage some programmer to look into this.
Thanks for any help.
Manuel
P.S.: To turn on the SMS report when writing an SMS: Edit --> Options.

Hi There. I am really also looking for a fix to this anoying problem.
Perhaps a little app that does the click. A regedit or something.
Thanks alot
Alex

There are other threads on this and for the moment, at least, it is not supported on the XDA. I have looked and cannot find a registry entry or such. I have added this requirement to my 'possible development ideas' list
The only alternative I know which works is to use a special character string at the start of every text. This string depends on country and operator. For me, on O2 UK, the characters are *0# (thats a zero in there) so I enter it in the subject field (I set it up as one of my pre-defined strings) then enter my text as normal in the usual place. Other special strings I know of are: 111 for Fido and *noti# for T-Mobile US.
See here for more.

Sure... I used the search before. But in none of the topics there`s a final solutin.
So i thought I push this topic up again.
Technically a program or reghack must be possible...
Could somebody please figure that out.
Thanks alot
Alex

SMS program

Hi Folks,
This is my first post, although I've owned my XDAIIs for several weeks and I've ROM'd it to the iMATE 1.4 ROM. So I've had a good play.
I was looking at smsOrganizer (from Jeyo) which is badly supported (and it ain't free) and I wondered why I (we) couldn't write something to do the same thing, for free.
Is there a forum for this kind of activity, or could someone point me in the direction of some exmples of how to pass data between the PC and phone?
Best regards
AndrwB

Andrew, look into RAPI: eg here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/default.asp?url=/archive/en-us/dnarppc2k/html/ppc_teapppi.asp
Development and Hacking is the right place for this kind of query...what do you want the app to do?
V

Hi V,
Basically I want to control the SMS message transfer on my XDA from Outlook, just like smsOrganizer.
Re. your link, I think we've got those? but I generally write embedded C, non of this fancy C++ stuff :-((
AndrewB

Hi V,
I just tried this :
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307256
And I can now copy files to and from my device
Not bad for 1 hours playing, specially as I've fixed 2 work related bugs too )
Andrew B

Good stuff.
I'm just learning C++ actually, I never learnt C, coming from self-taught VB on the PC.
RAPI is the way to do most PC<>PDA communications, although right now I'm only just getting into sms stuff. It'd be easy enough (I think) to write an interface to create an SMS on the PC in text, transmit that to the PDA and then SMS it off, but the backend of it would require some implementation.
Keep us posted though!
V

99% of c programs should compile and work just fine on
c++ compilers and you can write c++ programs without using
oop in which case they are pretty much c programs

From what I've read it looks as if you need to write an app to sit on the device and another app on the main PC. The app on the phone just acts as an agent passing data between the sms services and the PC.
Anybody got any ideas?
AndrewB

Yipeeeee
I can now write a DLL that sits on the device and I can write a C++ application on my PC to communicate with it
Now to start reading some text messages from the device to the PC......

Does anybody know agood way to send and recieve SMS ?? I would also like to edit the text and pass it to an Edit Box.
I am not too sure about the available API's that will let me do this.
Please HELP :shock:

Hey , i would like to send and recieve SMS on my xda2. Also pass the recieved message into an Edit Control. Does anybody know a good way to do this ??
I know about the SMS API but i am unaware of others. Pleas Help !! thnkx

SMS Auto sending
Hi everybody,
Is there a way to auto send all sms in draft? Basically, every sms in draft folder needs to be send one by one by ticking send button.

OK,
I can now send a text message from my PC to a DLL on my phone using RAPI, then send a SMS using MAPI.
The trouble is I can't get the subject and body fields to display correctly on my XDAIIs. Also I can't get the Name to appear instead of the number.
I'll try to post the code later on the understanding that it is FREE and we pool our experiences/knowledge.

Here is the code for the DLL and the PC program. Just press one of the keys on the tol bar to send the message. The number and message are hard coded.
There are ABSOLUTELY NO guarentees with this code, use it at you own risk.

can it recieve SMS as well ?? Has any body thought about other API's to use for sending and recieving SMS's maybe ?

Well.... Not yet.
This is my first ever .net VC++ program !!!!
There are lots of code snipets around but no full source code.
This is a work in progress project hence it is in the "Development and Hacking" fourm.
If you'd like to add some functionality to it......

I am asking because there seems to be a problem when trying to recieve SMS with SMS api as the HANDLE is already attributed to the messaging application (inbox/draft/outbox).
I believe you are using RAPI ? However i do not understand this API that well could u specify a bit more ?
Thanks for your help.

Hi nutitija,
I'm only using the RAPI function to pass parameters from my PC to the XDA. The actual sending of messages is done using the MAPI in the XDA.
My biggest problem is getting the subject/body and from fields to display correctly in the different XDA mail views.

New Project - Auto SMS Reminders

Hello people,
As y'all know that im new to this PPC development, Ive been into a new project to send sms for Birthdays and other reminders automatically..
Im planning to do with my only known language of Visual Basic .net and that too 2003 edition as i couldnt afford the latest 2005 edition..
So my plans to follow these steps..
-To send sms at the specific time (Accomplished)
-To set a database and store the sms events and so many sms events are handled
-To get the dates from Pocket Outlook database and add to mine
-Well it keeps goin as updates then
So any comments, suggestions and ideas are welcomed!
Regards
Carty..
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I use the application to run always in the background and check for the time every minute and if it matched, to send the sms.. This method not working when the device is in sleep mode So pls help me..
Regards
Carty..

Hi Carty,
I wonder that whether your project completed or not. I have the same idea with you and I search your topic . I think this is a useful chalenge for novices who want to get into the world of PPC application.
I'm trying develop an application for sending and reading SMS automatically. I would appreciate if you could give me some guide lines how to send/receive sms, etc.
For the problem of your application with background process, I think that you may think of the alarm function , it also runs while the device is sleeping.
Tks n best regards.
[email protected]

devloper and hacker app of the year.. chat style sms... from the treo 750v

This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody

in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper

I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.

Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758

I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.

Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.

i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother

Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.

In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.

Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)

Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?

Sending Unicode SMS messages via mobile phone from PDA

Hi,
I need your help to find out a software that I can use my HTC Touch Cruise to send and receive Unicode SMS messages via mobile phone.
I searched over and didn't find out a software that works with WM6. Can you help me to find one?
Thanks

Is it that hard to get?!
It looks like I am asking soming not easy to get! I did almost two weeks search for workable software. I only found one software which is called Instant SMS Sender. I tried it and it works. But it doesn't have must features like Indovisi SMS.
I hope someone can come up with better one. Lets look who is the Hero
Thanks

I found a very simple freeware software which is called zSMS v0.6. I tested and it works. It doesn't allow me to type unicode SMS. Did any body test to send unicode SMS using zSMS software?
Thanks

Try using Simple SMS V5.0 (For WM5 & WM6), and you may find your luck, depending on what type of handphone you are using.
Well, I still prefer Indovisi SMS but I am having the same problem with you.

Let me know if you find any better software too..