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Where is all of my storage going?!?!?

I went to take a picture today with my 8125 and it said i only had 22 remaining.... i swear a few days ago it was well over 50. Im assuming the pictures get saved to the "storage" memory by default so i checked my memory and it says i only have 6.5 mb left. I have no clue how this is possible since i dont even have a lot of programs installed. here is what i have installed 3rd party:
tonaya weather to go
magic button
agile messenger
TCPMP with two plugins
TomTom w/ one voice
Not sure what this one is but : FdcSoft PPCContacts manager. (let mek now if i can delete this one)
along with that i have 13 full res pictures and the stock ones it came with. Im running aku2.3 if that has any affect...
like i said i just dont understand how i am using almost 40mb out of 47. and im not quite sure what program memory consists of but that is almost have full at around 22mb of 44mb. Thanks for the help

use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics

dropknowledge said:
use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics
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even if I do that it seems like it would only free up a few mb`s if that....it seems like something else is hogging my space.

DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.

eViL D: said:
DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.
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I can't say I understand...could you please explain a little more please. do all of the new programs I install go to storage memory or program? I'm just confsed on what to clear out

well i posted this topic earlier today and i said that i had around 6mb of free storage space. I just went to install opera and it said my storage space was down to 2mb! I havnt installed anything or taken any pictures since i started this topic and i lost 4mb of storage already. How is this happening?? I did 2 soft resets and my storage memory never went up. Im really confused as to how this thing is eating my storage memory without me doing anything. I had to delete agile messenger just to gain some space! Please help with this

Storage mem is where you install apps and where apps by default save their files (pictures, video's, temp files, IE cache, Word documents etc). When you use your cam to take pictures, they come in the mydocuments folder on your storage mem. To change this, you have to go into the options of all apps you use and change the default storage location for the files to SD card. For instance: in the camera app, go to the settings, options, general and change the location to storage card.
With file explorer you can search your device for these files, perhaps your pics are taking up so much space? You can also use the built-in search function in start-programs and search for files larger than 64 kb, that should show you the culprits.
Program Mem under WM5 is only used to run apps, not to store them. It wll gradually fill up since not all apps are properly closed, even with task managers. Soft-resetting will empty your program mem from these apps and free up your RAM.
Storage mem is ROM mem and will not be emptied by a soft reset. There must be a lot of files in your storage mem that take up the place, so find out which apps do that. perhaps you have been surfing and there are large temp files from IE on your device?

Thanks for the advice, that is pretty much the answer i needed. One more question though, where should i regularly look to delete files? I will change my picture save location to my stroage card but what are some places i should always be clearing out? Thanks
Edit: I think i may have found the main culprit....one i forgot i transfered a 6mb song for a ring tone and second i went to windows=profiles=guest=temp internet files and cleared all that out and now im up to 22mb of free storgage! Is there any way i can not have it save the temp files or something? Also, in the windows folder it has all of my sounds/ring tones and those same files are also in the Rings folder. It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder and i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder and have it not work. What should i do?

You can run the search function in start-programs regularly if your storage mem goes down to fast for your liking to see large files that hog your storage mem (like files and frames in your temp folder that you downloaded or some app dumped there).
To clear out the IE cache, start IE, tap menu-options-memory and click the buttons delete history and delete files.
I have no idea which other locations to check, I only applied the camera option and clear out the IE cache once in a while (f I remember to). I have lots of apps installed in storage mem and still approx 15 MB free, so freeing up space has never been an issue for me.
good luck with it!
PS judging on your installed apps, I have no idea what can hog your storage so extremely. Perhaps the weather app is saving all downloaded data somewhere on main? I presume that your TT maps are on storage card (they are too big for intenal strage anyway)
PPS AFAIK PPCContact Manager helps you to select all your contacts in one go, for batch sending them trough BT to e.g. a BT carkit or other operations you want to carry out involving all contacts instead of one by one. tap and hold on a contact and you should see "Select all contacts" in the pop-up menu.

youve been a huge help koksie, i appreciate it. Any idea why my soungs are stored in the windows folder and under windows/rings? It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder but it will out of the rings folder. The only reason i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder is i feel if i do then i wont be able to select the deleted ones as ring tones even though they are still in my windows folder. Maybe i should just leave this as is...

Have a search for a free utility called Where Is My RAM? WIMR. As I can best recall this will run on WM5 too and will list your files in order of size. A real boon!

There's a program called Registry Wizard made by one of the geniuses here that will set your IE temp/cache files to be saved to the storage card. I use it and love it! It also has a lot of other tweaks for performance, annoyances, etc....
Do a search for it.
Hell....it's still on the first page when I do a search for "8125"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=8125

I store all my songs on the storage mini SD card. Only my ringtones and mp3 I want to set as ringtone are in the windows/rings dir. All the songs I only use for listening are on my SD card. Use total Commander (freeware) to delete all the stuff you don't need in the windows dir. This app has more possibilities than the standard file explorer. Just save your songs you need for ringtones on your main mem (windows/rings) and move all other songs to your SD card. Sorry, kinda wasted right now, just got home at 4.30 AM after "some" drinking, so I might not make much sense, but I might be more clear later on after some sleep...

where is all my storage mem?

I tried to install something earlier and got an error about the amount of storage available.
so I checked.
Storage
Total 181.60
In Use 159.53!!!!
Free 22.07
Program
Total 336.97
In Use 163.13
Free 173.84
I've checked for large files using storage memory and they total less than 20MB...so what the hell is using all my storage mem??

I wonder if it's all being used up in like cache or something, if you use the facebook albums feature I've seen a folder somewhere where it's storing the phtotos you view I think.
Im surprised there's no option to clear the cache of downloaded items etc even if this isnt the cause of your missing space.

twisted-pixel said:
I tried to install something earlier and got an error about the amount of storage available.
so I checked.
Storage
Total 181.60
In Use 159.53!!!!
Free 22.07
Program
Total 336.97
In Use 163.13
Free 173.84
I've checked for large files using storage memory and they total less than 20MB...so what the hell is using all my storage mem??
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I had the same thing happen to me. Check your "my documents" folder. Somehow my storage card documents got copied over to the internal storage. This was not something I did. It just happened.

nope, checked the my documents folder. nothing much in there.
I can't understand what is taking up the storage space

perhaps I've found it.....I have activesync sync'd to my exchange at work, so perhaps all my emails are taking the space. All I kow id I never had this problem with my HD...I always had lots of storage available

if you haven't done too many tweaks...then a hard reset is your best friend.

I noticed a chunk of memory disappearing today and looked into it with MemMaid - I think my Albums cache (under Application Data-HTC-HTC Album-Cache) seems to have bloated in size after my browsing some pictures - there is 27mb of data in there, all with today's date. You wouldn't care if the device wasn't tight for memory in the fist place, but what the hell is the point of an album cache that's a good percentage of the size of the original files!
Two other things could also have a bearing:
Mail - unlikely, but depends on your settings
One Note files - again unlikely, but could be if you have it set to sync

so, I did some exploring and stuff..and still can't find where it has all gone
Total 190
Used 151
Left 39
Recycle Bin 4.1Mb
App Data 10Mb
Music 1Mb
My Doc 7.6Mb
Prog Files 40.7Mb
Other files 4.7Mb
makes a total of 68.1MB
I've checked for hidden files....none...
so somewhere there is 80MB of files that I can't find!!..
I don't really want to do a hard reset, but I might have to just to see what my memory is from stock. I can't believe I've lost that much though...

ok..forced to do the hard reset...
181.60 Total
64.75 in Use
116.84 Free
64 seems like a lot in use when I haven't even installed anything yet!

Opera Cache
Have you tried deleting your cache in Opera, if you use it? I was running very low on memory, deleted my browsing/download cache within Opera and freed up about 70MB of space! Must have been temporary downloads and stuff.

ok..forced to do the hard reset...
181.60 Total
64.75 in Use
116.84 Free
64 seems like a lot in use when I haven't even installed anything yet!
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You did not,but HTC did..................

Is there any solution to transfer temporary files and cache files locations to storage card? Some Opera registry settings maybe...

Yes, you can set the location of the cache via opera:config

Hi, can you expand on that a little please Gustopher? I wasn't aware that I could move the opera cache to the memory card? Can you point me the in the direction of where I could do that as I've looked around and can't find the option.
Thanks

No worries:
Open Opera
In the address bar enter 'opera:config' (nothing else, no quotes)
The Opera Preferences Editor should open
Scroll down to 'User Prefs' and click it
Scroll down to 'Cache Directory4' and edit it to read something like '\Storage Card\OperaCache' (doesn't matter what you call the folder on the Storage Card
Scroll down to the bottom of the 'User Prefs' section and click 'Save'
Confirm the prompt and you should be in business
You almost certainly will need to close and restart Opera, but I don't think you need a soft reset
Use a file explorer to check that Opera is writing to your directory
Hope this helps

Gustopher said:
No worries:
Open Opera
In the address bar enter 'opera:config' (nothing else, no quotes)
The Opera Preferences Editor should open
Scroll down to 'User Prefs' and click it
Scroll down to 'Cache Directory4' and edit it to read something like '\Storage Card\OperaCache' (doesn't matter what you call the folder on the Storage Card
Scroll down to the bottom of the 'User Prefs' section and click 'Save'
Confirm the prompt and you should be in business
You almost certainly will need to close and restart Opera, but I don't think you need a soft reset
Use a file explorer to check that Opera is writing to your directory
Hope this helps
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yes works.
thank you.

Thanks a lot Gustopher, that's working great! It might be an idea to re-direct other stuff to the storage card too, like emails/attachments etc.. if that's possible, to preserve phone storage space...

You can certainly redirect attachments - must be done through the Inbox settings though.
However, unless someone has found a way in the meantime, you appear not to be able to redirect mail using the registry tweaks in common circulation.
For reasons I haven't yet got to the bottom of, either the mail app is quick to load or the Storage Card is slow to load on the HD2. As a result, when the HD2 tries to find the mail folder on the Storage Card it can't as the physical Storage Card hasn't been mounted yet. It therefore creates a virtual version of the Storage Card by creating a folder on the device and naming it 'Storage Card'.
When the real Storage Card is mounted a few moments later, the device calls it 'Storage Card2' and all programmes previously installed on the Card no longer work

Yes, all very technical. When you say that you can re-direct attachments you mean physically selecting where you want to save a file once downloaded or is there If there of automatically saving downloads to a specific folder without having to select it yourself every time? I hope you're with me?!!
In the meantime, if a method of saving emails to storage card becomes available, be sure to post it here if you can. Thanks for your help.

Being picky, attachments and downloads aren't the same thing. I'm talking about stuff attached to emails - if you open it and save it off somewhere else, that's a different matter.
To have your email attachments saved to the Card, open Inbox, click Menu-Tools-Options and select the Storage tab at the bottom. Tick the options that says 'When available use this Storage Card...'

Set Opera download folders

Whenever i try ad download someting from opera I get the option to choose where i want it to be downloaded to, however, if I choose storage card the only options I can pick are none or loads of folders of copilot.
Is there a way to specify which folders opera gives me as options to download to?

opera:config

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opera:config
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What setting is it, and what section is it in?
opera:config has quite a few options.

Is it a windows mobile setup thing or opera, I cant find any options in opera:config

charliebarter said:
Whenever i try ad download someting from opera I get the option to choose where i want it to be downloaded to, however, if I choose storage card the only options I can pick are none or loads of folders of copilot.
Is there a way to specify which folders opera gives me as options to download to?
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That's interesting. I just get loads of folders in my Music folder.

jakem said:
That's interesting. I just get loads of folders in my Music folder.
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Yeah, it's basically a very poor replacement for a folder treeview. I don't know what order it's sorted the root folder of the storage card, but it shows the 1st folder and then any subfolders of that, and any of their subfolders etc. etc. etc..
I'm the same as the charliebarter that the CoPilot folder is at the top of my list, so we get a recursive list of CoPilot sub folders, and the list runs out before it can get any further. Even if the dropdown allowed more entries, I certainly wouldn't want it to carry on and list every single folder on the storage card!
It's just crap on the part of the Opera devs. (So is the fact that there's a rather small limit on filename lengths, which includes folders so you'll end up with files called something like "\Storage Card\Folder\Sub Folder\Filena", instead of Filename.)
I don't know if Opera 10 is better in this respect, but I prefer the zooming in Opera 9 so I don't want to upgrade.

New Folder.....
Create a new folder on the root of your storage card & download to that. This is what I do. I have a folder on storage card called 'Apps' & download to that. Hope this helps.

weepatc said:
Create a new folder on the root of your storage card & download to that. This is what I do. I have a folder on storage card called 'Apps' & download to that. Hope this helps.
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The problem we have is that we don't get the option to save to any folders other than the long list of copilot folders. The list cuts off before getting any further than the many many subfolders of copilot.
I do have other folders in the root of the card. I just can't save to them. I end up saving to the root of the card and then moving files later, but that's just daft.

johncmolyneux said:
The problem we have is that we don't get the option to save to any folders other than the long list of copilot folders. The list cuts off before getting any further than the many many subfolders of copilot.
I do have other folders in the root of the card. I just can't save to them. I end up saving to the root of the card and then moving files later, but that's just daft.
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exactly, the I even have a bing folder before copilot and this isn't shown as an option so I don't think it's a alphabet position thing, I also have to move after downloading

How to hide pictures?

Hello,
I have some pictures of my girlfriend when shes naked on my phone and i dont like that when i open my photos & videos first thing you see is my girlfriend naked. Its pretty annoying if my friends uses my phone and i cant let them go see pictures becouse im not that kind of boyfriend So is there any way to hide pictures / make folder with password? And sorry for my bad english i hope you guys understand.

like your honesty!!!

using file explorer.. go to...
(depending where your pictures are stored)
cut and paste the pictures contained in DCIM\100media\
into a new folder somewhere else on the storage card.. and it will no longer appear in the image gallery

nutmegy said:
using file explorer.. go to...
(depending where your pictures are stored)
cut and paste the pictures contained in DCIM\100media\
into a new folder somewhere else on the storage card.. and it will no longer appear in the image gallery
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That doesnt work, when i click "all albums" you can see those pictures.

Mate - have a look at this, in the hits & tips thread linked in my sig...
64. Disable Unwanted Folders From Showing in HTC Album
It just hides a folder from the album app. You can still manually browse to it with file explorer, for example, and open images from there.
Hope this helps

johncmolyneux said:
Mate - have a look at this, in the hits & tips thread linked in my sig...
64. Disable Unwanted Folders From Showing in HTC Album
It just hides a folder from the album app. You can still manually browse to it with file explorer, for example, and open images from there.
Hope this helps
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Thanks man =) that helped

lol i forgot to add that bit!!, anyway your "Friends" shouldn't be rooting around your phone anyway!!!! heheh

simple..send them to me and I'll hide them for you

twisted-pixel said:
simple..send them to me and I'll hide them for you
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Haha =D you wish

i edited thet registry key but i'm having troubles.. while it is actually hiding pictures in htc album, they are still showing up in manila's tab, am i doing something wrong?

WinRar the files. You can even put a password on it so that if you loose the phone no one can see the pics. I found it the easiest and most secure way to hide your girlfriends pictures.
RReckless

Free app to protect pictures
Hi,
Search for an app called FreeOTFE4PDA. It allows you to create a fully encrypted, password protected folder on your card. This can then be mounted as a storage card when needed. Within this you can create folder and do anything else you can do on a storage card. The important part is of course that you can not mount it if you do not know the password.
Regards

i run both windows and android, so what i'm trying to do is to hide android's gallery cache files (why did developers think that using readable jpg files as cache would be a good idea in the first place?)
that's the reason i want them to remain accessible for android use, but still don't want them to fill my windows photo tab with duplicates, so no rar storing can solve my problem
i fear i'll have to give up the 3d glory of android's gallery due to this stupid issue...

Use Total Commander, find the pictures, press & hold a picture, tap Properties, check the box "Hidden", press OK. The pictures can only be accessed through Total Commander.
It's a good thing my 900th post went to a good cause!

l30 said:
i run both windows and android, so what i'm trying to do is to hide android's gallery cache files (why did developers think that using readable jpg files as cache would be a good idea in the first place?)
that's the reason i want them to remain accessible for android use, but still don't want them to fill my windows photo tab with duplicates, so no rar storing can solve my problem
i fear i'll have to give up the 3d glory of android's gallery due to this stupid issue...
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That's exactly the problem i'm having. You just have to keep the photos rarred while you using android. Not the perfect solution, if you find a better 1 i'm interested too.
Sent from my HanDroid2 using XDA App

1)Change the extension to some other (from jpg to ipg in example). So no one program will open it. When you need it change again to jpg.
2)make it hidden or system

opera 10 and camera usage

am i the only one getting mad problems trying to use both together? i ll have opera 10 open and minimized and ill try to run the camera and it will fail to initialize alot, sometimes just fail to initialize, sometimes it says not enough memory, but opera 10 will be the only other app running...
anyone else have this happening to them

I have this problem too. I think this is a known issue and there are no fixes as far as I can tell. you just have to kill opera 10 before starting camera or just use opera 9.7.

I used to have this problem
I used to have this problem but I removed most of the startup programs along with the \program files\selfservice (just renamed to stop.selfservice) programs and I can run everything at the same time. I even removed the bluet hoot service app in the startup but you can opened via shortcut.

how did u remove startup apps?

makkunbakkun said:
how did u remove startup apps?
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connect to your PC with activesync, then use your PC to navigate to my device\windows\startup on the phone.

you know I just tried opening opera and camera and it's fine. perhaps it's working with the leo cpu patch now.

Just to follow up
My phone has been on 3 days without rebooting and I haven't close at all Opera 10. I have 26 processes running including 10 apps running. I think I solved the problem on my phone, not a single mem error.
So the problem was either in the startup apps or the selfservice apps.
By the way I don't use sense, i use SPB MS and s2u2, the phone feels fast very fast even with all that load?(only 179mb RAM free).

sirphunkee said:
connect to your PC with activesync, then use your PC to navigate to my device\windows\startup on the phone.
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So, I have connected my phone using activesync, and every time i open the files on my phone, the windows directory is no where to be found. Why is this? I can find the windows directory just fine when using file explorer on my phone. But not via my computer.

adamhlj said:
So, I have connected my phone using activesync, and every time i open the files on my phone, the windows directory is no where to be found. Why is this? I can find the windows directory just fine when using file explorer on my phone. But not via my computer.
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Did you try to unhide the folders on Windows explorer>tools>folder options> check "Show hidden files and folders" remember not to delete the files in the startup folder just move them, maybe you'll need them if something doesnt work well specially BThoot.

Do you open it and choose to connect as active sync on the phone or disk drive? I think when I choose to connect as disk drive, then only the storage card shows up and not the on device storage.

Paten said:
Do you open it and choose to connect as active sync on the phone or disk drive? I think when I choose to connect as disk drive, then only the storage card shows up and not the on device storage.
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As active sync, and yes that's correct you can't see the phone storage when accessing it in disk drive mode.
The items in the startup folder are mostly just .lnk files, which are links to the executables in the \windows folder...so as long as you can find those again if ever needed, then it's safe to just delete anything in there with a .lnk extension.

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connect to your PC with activesync, then use your PC to navigate to my device\windows\startup on the phone.
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what should i delete? what did you delete?
to the guy with his phone on for 3 days without reboot, what did you delete or mod to gain that kind of stability. I have the tmous update, but there is a cpu update too???

Here is my setup.
makkunbakkun said:
what should i delete? what did you delete?
to the guy with his phone on for 3 days without reboot, what did you delete or mod to gain that kind of stability. I have the tmous update, but there is a cpu update too???
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My set up>
T mobile HD2 latest ROM(how ever I was ok using old ROM).
SPB mobile shell 3.5.5 (Sense theme)
S2U2
Arkswitch
In My startup programs(windows/startup)>
arkswitch
ilock2
lumosstarter
spbmobileshell
everything else I moved to
windows/startup2 (or anywhere)
there is an app called BTtrayCE, this enables the bluethoot, so if i want to enable bluethoot i press a shortcut that i made to that app, then i turn bluethoot, probably is ok to leave bttrayCE but anyway i dont use it.
then i renamed the folder
program files/Selfservice to program files/stopselfservice
in this folder there is a lot of trash from t mobile that starts when you turn on the phone.
I think one of my main advantages is SPB ms, really, it disables all that sense stuff that crashes the phone (in my opinion), you can get better performance by using titanium but, it is not too productive.
I'm attaching some pictures of my phone. it is running since morning (it died because of battery) the last screen shot i posted before
Again no problems with the performance at all battery last for 1.5 days but i dont have data plan, just wifi 21 hrs a day.
Hope it helpsss
-Roberto

Awesome Roberto, thank you! I haven't gone in to clean out my startup group yet, but according to what you're showing even the few things that are in there now can go...although I might just put bttray back in there since I use BT all the time.
Also, oddly enough, I don't have the program files/selfservice folder you mention...maybe it's new in the 2.13 ROM...?

They came on 2.13
sirphunkee said:
Awesome Roberto, thank you! I haven't gone in to clean out my startup group yet, but according to what you're showing even the few things that are in there now can go...although I might just put bttray back in there since I use BT all the time.
Also, oddly enough, I don't have the program files/selfservice folder you mention...maybe it's new in the 2.13 ROM...?
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Actually yes I think they came with the new 2.13 ROM. For some reason with those files running I wasn't able to open more than 5 apps at the same time - they were autoclosing-, i think that's t mo's solution for stability in the HD2.

alright so i deleted some things, and i thinkk i may have messed something up.
when i hold the end key down to get to the menu where you can vibrate or turn off data it lags rediculously.....
could someone send me their startup folder shortcuts so i can compare what you have in there?
like an idiot....i didnt backup before i started deleting

makkunbakkun said:
alright so i deleted some things, and i thinkk i may have messed something up.
when i hold the end key down to get to the menu where you can vibrate or turn off data it lags rediculously.....
could someone send me their startup folder shortcuts so i can compare what you have in there?
like an idiot....i didnt backup before i started deleting
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Here you go man, I haven't cleaned mine out yet so everything that came stock is in there with the exception of BTTray.lnk. That and any of the .lnk files you see below should be available for you in the \windows root.

sirphunkee said:
Here you go man, I haven't cleaned mine out yet so everything that came stock is in there with the exception of BTTray.lnk. That and any of the .lnk files you see below should be available for you in the \windows root.
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maybe i mistyped, maybe you misunderstood, could you send me your whole startup folder please? not just what files there are in there

Here they are
makkunbakkun said:
maybe i mistyped, maybe you misunderstood, could you send me your whole startup folder please? not just what files there are in there
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I think these are the original ones.

makkunbakkun said:
maybe i mistyped, maybe you misunderstood, could you send me your whole startup folder please? not just what files there are in there
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Yes I guess I misunderstood, I thought you just needed to know which ones you needed to copy the links for out of your windows folder again.