Hello
Some days ago I received my HTC Shift and I am very satisfied!
Unfortunately there is one strange Problem:
I am using a MultiSIM by T-Mobile, that means I have one number for multiple devices.
If the HTC Shift would make phone calls and someone calls me, the shift and my MDA Vario III would be ringing.
When I activate the Modem in my Shift it seems the Shift receives phone calls and then denies them! So nobody can call me when I am using my shift, since all calls are directed to my mailbox
Has anyone of you an idea what can I do?
(btw: I unlocked my Shift already to full WM6 )
The shift doesnt support phone calls...even if you have on sim card it wont ring
Use it for its gprs/edge/3g and sms sending n receiving
rdosti said:
The shift doesnt support phone calls...even if you have on sim card it wont ring
Use it for its gprs/edge/3g and sms sending n receiving
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Hello
thats exactly what I like to use the shift for. I am not interested in making phone calls with it.
But the Shift is blocking calls, which should also arrive on my mobile phone...
I think HTC has made this blocking to avoid connection problems when somebody tries to calls the shift (which is not supported).
Is this right?
Might work?
I don't know for sure about T-Mobile. I am using a similar service (they call it "FlexiCard") from E-Plus. They have a function that allows you to designate one of your SIM cards as the primary card. This is the card that will receive calls (and SMS) first, only if this card is not active (phone turned off) or busy a call or SMS will be routed to the other card.
However, there seems to be a service difference between T-Mobile and E-Plus: I have the SIM card in my Shift still designated as the "primary" card. If the modem is turned on, this is interpreted by E-Plus as "busy", so calls go to my phone (which holds the "secondary" card). If the modem is turned off, the SIM card in my Shift is obviously inactive and not visible to the mobile network. So the only reason for me to switch "primary" vs. "secondary" would be to continue receiving SMS messages on my phone rather than the Shift. Unfortunately, for SMS E-Plus does not bother whether the "primary" card is active / busy or not, SMS always go to that card (understandable when you look at how SMS works on mobile networks).
If you don't find any information about switching primary/secondary card in your documentation that came with the card I suggest contacting the T-Mobile hotline. They should be able to tell you whether this functionality is available with your "MultiSIM" and how to switch "primary" between the cards.
Thank you mw65719 four your tip.
I just phoned with T-Mobile support.
They don't support it like Eplus to switch between SIMCards.
It is just possible to define a primary card for SMS service, not for phone calls. Whenever someone calls me both phones are ringing.
So I will have to buy a new contract with T-Mobile just for data transfer, which is more expensive than the combination of phone/data contract.
I have the same issue with the MultiSIM from t-mobile. Both phones (the other one is a Touch) are ringing, after the first ring a line-busy message is generated.
Seems that the Shift in canceling the incoming call after the first ring.
Does anyone has an idea to solve this problem instead of splitting the MultiSIM into two separate contracts?
Have just opened a suuport case at HTC Europe concering this issue. Seems to be a German (and t-mobile) specific problem.....
speech service ?!
gsiakoe said:
Seems that the Shift in canceling the incoming call after the first ring.
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find out how the call canceled
a: is it the 3g modem that set the networkstatus to -> data service only
b: or a apllication that will call canceled - reason busy
see here what i mean
http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/laptop/hyperterminalmulti-sim-anleitung.pdf
I think it's part of the WinMo/SnapVue side.
Vista enables a lan connection with WinMo for internet.
So there could be settings in the registry to enable/disable this busy status.
I try to find somethin, but unfortunately i'm not a pro like others here in the Board.
Where are you folks, on Planet Mars, everyone and all documents I read say that the Shift cannot support phone calls???????
alexn2 said:
Where are you folks, on Planet Mars, everyone and all documents I read say that the Shift cannot support phone calls???????
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it can be made to recieve them though. we all say Bengalboy's pics. about the phone calls being blocked. that does suck. i guess we have to wait till the phone side is re activated.
Idea how to activate phone pad
Pawel062 said:
it can be made to recieve them though. we all say Bengalboy's pics. about the phone calls being blocked. that does suck. i guess we have to wait till the phone side is re activated.
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I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
Irgendware said:
I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
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problem there is no phone pad aka dial pad in production models as far as i know. so even if u can re enable it u wont have any images etc... it'll most likely require a custom rom or if we get lucky a cab.
Pawel062 said:
problem there is no phone pad aka dial pad in production models as far as i know. so even if u can re enable it u wont have any images etc... it'll most likely require a custom rom or if we get lucky a cab.
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I am not interested in using the phone pad.
I like to solve the busy line problem (read some posts above). When activating the speech on modem side, this would be solve and I could use my Shift with my MultiSIM-Card
Irgendware said:
I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
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souds interesting ! .. have you try some scenarios ? with 3G enabled, with 3G disabled, with wifi enabled, with wifi disabled ... etc ?
I can't try myself.. but as there are data connection through 3G.. I think that it is possible to find a solution to the step 2 !
Anybody found a solution for this?
Getting my shift soon, and im going for a twin sim solution. would suck if i cant get phone calls on my kaiser cos the shift is on in snap vue mode and rejects the calls.
I am experiencing the same Problem with my Shift.
It is crazy, because my Mobile rings a halt time, then the Shift rejects the call. Afterwards, I have to call back.
The problem should be able to solve, but you have, anyhow, to tell the shifts modem not to reject voice calls. Still, I do not know how to tell the modem
Hello?
Has anyone resolved this issue? I'm a new MultiSIM user, and the idea of not having any internet with my shift is ****ing me off (that would make it as useful as a brick ).
Any resolution is appreciated.
Cheers.
HI @ all, i don´t know, if you fixed that problem.
I´m a multi SIm user too. With the original Radio Version (shipped with german SHIFT) the same problem. After that, i update the radio Version to the Phone edition radio Version:
see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486234
(but here always my WinCE Side was really slow??) so I Downgrade back the phone edition
1.27.35.28 and ce OS version 5.2.1620 (I00 ROm I think)
And now, Phone is working, and never the Multisim usage hangs up.
I don´t know why, i play every 1 month with Shift and upgrade, downgrade something, then the most time shift is not in use, so i don´t make a history what happend...
:-(
But with the new radio Version it will work.
maybe this rom work too:
Cmonex posted another radio for backup. This radio is for original rom (ie all other roms from the forum). Look for the link on page 5, or here
http://rapidshare.com/files/20211808...ift1582123.zip <- this is not for the phone or for this rom
Mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7...e6ba49b5870170
Irgendware said:
Hello
Some days ago I received my HTC Shift and I am very satisfied!
Unfortunately there is one strange Problem:
I am using a MultiSIM by T-Mobile, that means I have one number for multiple devices.
If the HTC Shift would make phone calls and someone calls me, the shift and my MDA Vario III would be ringing.
When I activate the Modem in my Shift it seems the Shift receives phone calls and then denies them! So nobody can call me when I am using my shift, since all calls are directed to my mailbox
Has anyone of you an idea what can I do?
(btw: I unlocked my Shift already to full WM6 )
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it happens with all multiple sims when you have all the devices activated!!!...
when you have multiple sims and you have all the devices open...
which device should accept the call ??
it does not work as douplex land line... not all of your mobile devices should ring at the same time ... obviously the one that was opened first and got the signal from your provider should get the line...
the twin sim solution works fine with me ... plus unlimited internet access from phone and the shift...
BUT one device open at a time ...
Hello,
I'm from Belgium and I need to use the G1 for my work. I would like to use it without a sim card (or make the phone using the data of mine) but it seems impossible for the device to connect on internet.
I have just received the device today and I really need help. I have tried to find something on the forum but the only interesting thing I have found seems to say that it is possible.
Google is even worse than Apple which is already worse than Microsoft.. is there any good company in this world...
what do you mean use it without a sim card? As in the telephony and data connections with having to use a t-mobile sim card or any simcard?
This is a sim card phone meaning it has to have a simcard in order for you to use the telephony or edge/3g connections. No way around that.
And on a side note, if you want help you probably shouldn't spread your opinions about things that you don't know about and things you make assumptions for.
I can get into Android without having a Sim card inserted on Dev Phone. WLAN works without it.
But when there is a card inserted I cannot skip Sim pin to do things without having mobile operator service.
MacFloid said:
I can get into Android without having a Sim card inserted on Dev Phone. WLAN works without it.
But when there is a card inserted I cannot skip Sim pin to do things without having mobile operator service.
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how do you use the dev phone at the first time? no sim card is working on that f******* phone :/
neoobs said:
This is a sim card phone meaning it has to have a simcard in order for you to use the telephony or edge/3g connections. No way around that.
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This is a "device" that is able of making call... this is not a phone.. you can't call iphones and htc devices "phones"... I don't care about the phone feature, I just need a small device with linux. If it was a phone, it would not need a gmail account... don't talk about things you don't know.
neoobs said:
what do you mean use it without a sim card? As in the telephony and data connections with having to use a t-mobile sim card or any simcard?
And on a side note, if you want help you probably shouldn't spread your opinions about things that you don't know about and things you make assumptions for.
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the fact is that no sim card is working... I'm currently using 3G with my HTC Shift, and using Edge/Gprs with my HTC Touch .. and no problem.. but the HTC Dream doesn't recognize the data plan !
I guess I know much more than you .. and my opinion is like 99% of user should be having this issue... what kind of phone are impossible to use like that ? I have 3 months to make a big project on that phone and I don't even know if it is possible to make it work without playing with hardspl.
That's crazy to see more protection than iPhones, and other htc phones.... 2 weeks to be able to order the phone and then I don't even know if we can make it work in this country ... GREAT !
koala996 said:
the fact is that no sim card is working... I'm currently using 3G with my HTC Shift, and using Edge/Gprs with my HTC Touch .. and no problem.. but the HTC Dream doesn't recognize the data plan !
I guess I know much more than you .. and my opinion is like 99% of user should be having this issue... what kind of phone are impossible to use like that ? I have 3 months to make a big project on that phone and I don't even know if it is possible to make it work without playing with hardspl.
That's crazy to see more protection than iPhones, and other htc phones.... 2 weeks to be able to order the phone and then I don't even know if we can make it work in this country ... GREAT !
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Your issue is an APN issue.
Read one of the APN threads or learn to use the search Mr. Know-it-all.
look guys i have a htc shift cdma
all i need is to enable the phone so i can make calls
i dont care about gps,card reader, or and thing else just phone
i beleave to to do this i need
1. a hardspl
2. a rom
3. change my esn number
i beleave the reason no one has taken the time to wright hardspl and rom with working radio is because of the esn ....
the esn for sprints htc shift is data only there for to change it to voice you need change it to a voice esn i have some one to do the esn swap and
i will be using a htc mougle
mougle info
rom 3.56.651.0
rom date 06/16/08
radio 3.42.02
protocol dcaaxam-4350h
prl 60613
pri 2.04_003
shift info
rom 1.14.651.1
rom date 02/16/08
radio 2.30.00
protocol acaaaam-4070
prl 60711
pri 1.33_003
please i really need this done
if you need to get a hold of my yahoo address is the same as my name on here
p.s. will also need bluetooth driver for head set
blackberry curve 8530
i just wanted to let you know if some one comes up with the hacks i need i
will give you $100 or a brand new never opened blackberry curve 8530 red
i know this is a free bord but i really need this and im sure theres got to be other guys out there that woud be willing to pay
also would like to hear from some of the hackers is it supper hard to crack cdma am i wasting my time with this should i get a sim version please help thanks
i looked on ebay there are only two of these red backberrys one or $299 and one for $399 ill even toss in free shiping in the lower 48 states
ok first the hardspl has already been done by comex second I have already posted in the forms to hack the phone to make calls unable to receive. sorry no rom developed because I don't know how to cook use the search function using the word CDMA and you should find it I tried long and hard at getting bluetooth and sd card to work but this looks like it is going to require a hardware mod. third even with being able to make phone calls sprint has it in their inventory that this is a data only device and will not change it but yes maybe if you can get the esn # changed you can connect it on sprint network but the phone will work on other CDMA carrier's network I have one on cricKet working with phone calls and headset
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ok first the hardspl has already been done by comex second I have already posted in the forms to hack the phone to make calls unable to receive. sorry no rom developed because I don't know how to cook use the search function using the word CDMA and you should find it I tried long and hard at getting bluetooth and sd card to work but this looks like it is going to require a hardware mod. third even with being able to make phone calls sprint has it in their inventory that this is a data only device and will not change it but yes maybe if you can get the esn # changed you can connect it on sprint network but the phone will work on other CDMA carrier's network I have one on cricKet working with phone calls and headset
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thanks for the reply
i did see were you and comex were working on it but there was never a link to the hardspl or the rom the two of you were working on
i also seen the other xda thread were some one said they had a rom and every one who used it had nothen but problems
same thing with the rest of of the threads ive seen on the net
as far as the bluetooth its a softwear thing
the cdma shift can do every thing the sim card one can do
the problem is theres not alot of cdma owners out there so the hackers dont spend the time on it that it needs to work the bugs out
if we can get a number of guys together willing to chip in some one might think its worth there time
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ok first the hardspl has already been done by comex second I have already posted in the forms to hack the phone to make calls unable to receive. sorry no rom developed because I don't know how to cook use the search function using the word CDMA and you should find it I tried long and hard at getting bluetooth and sd card to work but this looks like it is going to require a hardware mod. third even with being able to make phone calls sprint has it in their inventory that this is a data only device and will not change it but yes maybe if you can get the esn # changed you can connect it on sprint network but the phone will work on other CDMA carrier's network I have one on cricKet working with phone calls and headset
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also if you could please post the hardspl and rom that you do have
along with the things it will and wont do to give all the cooks out there a base to work with thanks
just simply follow the instructions posted at the begining of this thread you dont really need to download anything except the Shift Packs and a registry editor you don't even need to download the hardspl to make this work and again I state there is nothin NOTHING TO FLASH NO ROM THE ROM IN THE ZIP FOLDER IS ONE I WAS PLAYING WITH THAT AGAIN DOSE NOT WORK THE ONLY ORGINAL ROM IN THE FOLDER IS ONE I GOT FROM COMEX WHICH IS THE ORGINAL CDMA ROM WITH SOME FUNKY NAME LIKE ATLANTIS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. now the only real diffrance between the cdma and the gsm is CDMA gps dose not work to know working drivers inclueding the one for GSM and a the headset and mic works right after the hack "delete Block Voice_MO" so in some ways better the only reason i belive hardware mod will probaly be needed for SD_card and Bluetooth is because those are located on the pc side of the board so without power the cant even have the chance of being seen by snapvue unless the pc side is on. I will state again FLASH nothing.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494788&highlight=cdma sorry forgot post link
I am just about to bid on an unlocked Touch HD - I am currently using HTC Hero on 3UK ..... I love the phone but want a windows mobile phone also (dont ask why but I have always had wm)
The question I would like to ask if anyone can assist me is , on previous htc wm phones I have had, there is a internet connection wizard which configues the phone for internet .and most time it prompts when the sim is inserted
3 dont support in theory the touch hd and there are no connections shown on the three website but I know I can use it if unlocked which the one im looking at is ...
Can anyone tell me if the phone has internet wizard ??
Thanks chris