NET CF 3.5 help - Touch CDMA General

Hi, I believe I have quite a big problem here. I read somewhere else on this site that if certain .NET CF programs did not run, then to delete the enitre LocalMachine/Software/Microsoft/.NET something something registry entry. I did this, soft reset my phone, and of course, now all .net programs wont run. I've tried reinstalling with a cab file, copying and pasting OEM files, and going into the registry and changing the key in the .net folder that enables version 3.5. If anyone has a solution to this please let me know because I depend on .NET CF for almost all of my programs.

fraggy4 said:
Hi, I believe I have quite a big problem here. I read somewhere else on this site that if certain .NET CF programs did not run, then to delete the enitre LocalMachine/Software/Microsoft/.NET something something registry entry. I did this, soft reset my phone, and of course, now all .net programs wont run. I've tried reinstalling with a cab file, copying and pasting OEM files, and going into the registry and changing the key in the .net folder that enables version 3.5. If anyone has a solution to this please let me know because I depend on .NET CF for almost all of my programs.
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You may have to hard reset. If you didn't backup, I suggest you start to. Or, try adding the key you deleted. You should never mess with the system/registry if you don't backup!

I agree. A hard reset is your best bet. I've made similiar mistakes as well. I've tried reinstalling the affected programs, all I ended up doing was getting numerous error messages. It's really hard trying to figure out which programs are affected and which are not. I lost a lot of important data, but it taught me the importance of backing up my work.

Man, that sucks. If its possible, could anyone who has an xv6900 post the registry keys for net cf 3.5? I'm going to try reinstalling an older version, back to 2.0 SP1. If that doesn't work, I'll let you know.
Edit: I installed 2.0 SP1 and it still doesnt work. I'm starting to think it's not a registry problem though, because I search around and this seems to be an assembly problem or something. It says it can't find Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Utilities and it gives me this keytoken: '31bf3856ad364e35'. If that means anything please let me know.
Edit: Woohoo! I fixed it! sort of. I downloaded dll files of the Microsoft.WindowsMobile.******** assemblies i was missing and pasted them in the program folders for the programs that need netcf. However, I will have to keep doing this unless I can find a registry key that points to where the dll is. If anyone has a registy key that points to Microsoft.WindowsMobile.Utilities and Forms please post it here so I can copy it.

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Removing Applications???

Hi,
I recently installed 'Kick off slot machine' game on my XDA mini s and when i go to 'remove programs' it wont remove it. I've tried soft reseting.
How can i get rid of it?
Can i just go into file explorer and delete the files in its program folder?
yes but u would be better off removing the reg entries aswell allthough it wont cause harm.
tried removing using active sync , add remove programs , as sometimes that works for me where the one on the device does not work.
I have found that quite often uninstalls just don't work. For example, before I resorted to a recent hard reset, I had only a few megs of RAM available. Turns out it was because although it "appeared" that such things had been uninstalled, they had in fact not been uninstalled.
The way I do it now, and I reckon this is the only way to do it, is to go to Add/Remove programs in Activesync and uncheck the box of the app/game to be removed. This seems to work (even on apps installed by CAB or on other machines).
Stegz
Ok thanks.
By the way, how do you find and delete reg entries? Which folder are they stored in?
Use SK Tools, it is the best soft for cleaning and everything
-www.s-k-tools.com
You'll need something like PHM Regedit, or I use Total Commander. I'm no expert but you'll be able to get help with registry keys etc here.
Alternatively, purchase MemMaid which (I think) removes redundant registry entries.
Oh ok, thanks very much.
Just one more quick question, if you install something, remove it, then decide you want it installed again does it just overwrite the previously created reg entries?
does it just overwrite the previously created reg entries
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Yes, if it is the same version of software.
fresh123breeze said:
Use SK Tools, it is the best soft for cleaning and everything
-www.s-k-tools.com
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I was using this amazing application but after it's installation i was unable to uninstall any program from "Add/Remove Programs". Not even S-K Tools. The only solution was a hard reset. Do you have anything on mind for this issue?
P.S: The version i was using: 2.2.10
Yes, developer knows about this, he said, new version fixed.
I have ver.2.3.15.6 and tested, good things, Backup is working in WM5.
fresh123breeze said:
Yes, developer knows about this, he said, new version fixed.
I have ver.2.3.15.6 and tested, good things, Backup is working in WM5.
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Hi, was wondering does it backup contacts and have you tried restoring after hard reset?
Yes, I did. The only one problem, SK Tools made funny records about
installed software, so in the list, You have only what was installed after
You installed SK Tools. I think it was already fixed, but didn't test it.
thanks fresh123breeze,
think i'll go for it. its not a lot to pay for what it claims it can do.

After a Hard reset how do I automatically run a config script

Does anyone know how to automatically run a config script or application after a hard reset?.
if your talking about the autorun.exe the one that loads the cabs from the ext rom then it should automatically run after a hard reset, if it does not then you may need to re-flash your rom as your ext rom has been trashed
Hi,
Thanks for that - what I am trying to do is...
I install an app (including .net v2.2) When the device is hard reset I want to be able to get PPC to automatically reinstall .net 2.2 and my own app.
Presumably I need to put some cabs somewhere that will be automatically run by autorun.exe?
But where (and how) do I place the cabs and what should they be called.
Many Many Thanks
Chris
Chris_French said:
Hi,
Thanks for that - what I am trying to do is...
I install an app (including .net v2.2) When the device is hard reset I want to be able to get PPC to automatically reinstall .net 2.2 and my own app.
Presumably I need to put some cabs somewhere that will be automatically run by autorun.exe?
But where (and how) do I place the cabs and what should they be called.
Many Many Thanks
Chris
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yes, the cab must be in the ext rom and you must edit the config.txt in the ext rom.. its easy and you will understand as soon as you open the config.txt
There is a section on wiki in the BA section (extended rom kitchen) that will give you more info.
Link Below
Thanks for that - It is a real help - If I can do anything for you in the future just let me know.
One more (hopefully) final question on this point....
How do you unlock the extended rom on Win Mobile 05 (Ipaq 6515). I have found some stuff on it but nothing seems to work
I have a apache Verizon and a T-mobile h6315. I'm guessing that your's is simular to my h6315. On the h6315 the extended rom is called "iPAQ ROM". search for it in your registery. You'll find that there is a entry that shows it's mode of the file system. value is one change it to 0, or delete it from the registry and reboot.
In the extended rom there is a directory called Config there is a cab provisioning file and cab file that I think are probably installed on a had boot.
Sorry, I can't look up the specific regristry entry now, will try later if this isn't good enough.

How to group cabs in one cab?

Is possible to group several cabs in one cab?
I want it to save in the Extended Rom of my TyTn, so that when I do a HardReset, automatic it starts to install all the modifications of registry and some programs that I have in several cabs from the pocket, without need of pc.
I search on the forum, but I don´t find any solution.
Thanks
Well first off, if you use the autorun.exe that already exists in the extended ROM and modify its configuration file (the name may be different for different devices, but it is usually a plain text file) you can get it to install several cabs in sequence.
Combining cabs is not always possible unless you are the one who created them in the first place.
Get a program called CE Cab Manager. It will show you everything that a given cab includes and let you edit it. As long as it's just files and registry settings there is no problem stuffing them all in one cab.
But if a two cabs contain a setup.dll there is no way of combining them without knowing exactly what that DLL does (it could be anything) and thats almost impossible (unless you can read ARM assembler well).
tristan1412 said:
Is possible to group several cabs in one cab?
I want it to save in the Extended Rom of my TyTn, so that when I do a HardReset, automatic it starts to install all the modifications of registry and some programs that I have in several cabs from the pocket, without need of pc.
I search on the forum, but I don´t find any solution.
Thanks
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what levenum said is correct... so the best thing for you to do is to edit the config.txt file in your extended rom to have them install... HOWEVER if the cabs you are using arent digitally signed then they wont install using that method, you would need to disable the security first... Since no one has a signed disable security cab that works with the tytn the only option would be to do this on a hard reset; soft reset before the customization, when it boots run the tweak program to disable security, then go to the windows directory and manually launch the preautoconfig.exe
software alternatives
tristan1412, you can also use a software dedicated to this task.
check spb airsetup (www.spbsoftwarehouse.com, i'm not sure if it allows more then one cab), or even better airwizard (http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=airwizard)
the advantage of these programs is in my opinion the compression. then you also get several options like readme/eula (with airwizard you have spash image support and even sd card output support - that creates autorun content for the sdcard)
hope this helps
RM
shogunmark said:
....HOWEVER if the cabs you are using arent digitally signed then they wont install using that method, you would need to disable the security first...
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First of all, thanks for the answers.
now, How can signed digitally my own cabs??

HELP Netcf 3.5 Installation failed

Hello,
i have a massive problem with my htc hd2. In order to use bsb tweaks 1.6 and other software i need netcf 3.5. The problem ist, that every time i try to install netcf3.5 wether via .cab or active sync using the pc programm it says "installation failed". When i install BSB Tewaks it installs and says that it can´t run with that version of netcf. Obviuously there seems to be an older version installed which hinders the new one from installing. This problem occurs even after rom update and hard reset. I ran out of idears and am totally despaired.
If someone can help me with that i´d be more than thankfull because i tryied everythin from sk tools cleaning registry after rom installation to taking out the memory card and Sim card and so on..
HELP PLEASE (
Lovrock said:
Hello,
i have a massive problem with my htc hd2. In order to use bsb tweaks 1.6 and other software i need netcf 3.5. The problem ist, that every time i try to install netcf3.5 wether via .cab or active sync using the pc programm it says "installation failed". When i install BSB Tewaks it installs and says that it can´t run with that version of netcf. Obviuously there seems to be an older version installed which hinders the new one from installing. This problem occurs even after rom update and hard reset. I ran out of idears and am totally despaired.
If someone can help me with that i´d be more than thankfull because i tryied everythin from sk tools cleaning registry after rom installation to taking out the memory card and Sim card and so on..
HELP PLEASE (
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you have to use a reg editor to enable the 3.5. HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5.
see if this helps
**** turpin said:
you have to use a reg editor to enable the 3.5. HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5.
see if this helps
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That is for software that was installed on the phone prior to .Net 3.5. It has nothing to do with installing 3.5.
If you can bare it, I'd suggest a hard reset and then try to install it. It should install without issue, as it has for everyone else as I've never seen this problem.
There could be a conflict with something that you've already installed on the phone, but it certainly won't be with an earlier version of .Net. You can (and indeed need to) have different versions of .Net working on the phone.
Let us know how you get on.
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That is for software that was installed on the phone prior to .Net 3.5. It has nothing to do with installing 3.5.
If you can bare it, I'd suggest a hard reset and then try to install it. It should install without issue, as it has for everyone else as I've never seen this problem.
There could be a conflict with something that you've already installed on the phone, but it certainly won't be with an earlier version of .Net. You can (and indeed need to) have different versions of .Net working on the phone.
Let us know how you get on.
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I performed a hardreset first via Software "1234" then via buttons (volup/down) but every time i try to install it, it says "Microsoft.NET CE 3.5CAB failed" and thats it....
What can i do ? It actually has worked at a certain point but after some hardresets it just doesnt install anymore (
Have you tried a different download? It may be that the installation you downloaded is corrupted. Also, if you're copying it to your SD card and installing from there, that could be damaged, so try it from the device.
Other than that, I really don't know what to suggest. I take it you've googled the error message you get. What did that give you?
Netcf3.5.9198
When I tried to install NETCF3.5 it told me I had a newer version already installed, so I didn't install it. Later I checked my registry and found that I have version 3.5.9198 installed. Does anyone know if BsB Tweaks will work with this version? (EDIT) Well, I tried BSB Tweaks and it seems to work ok with my version of NETCF3.5.
When I tried pinch to zoom on Opera 10, it worked, but also gave a small popup showing the image of the full screen centered on the lower center part of the screen. When ever you double tap to go back to full screen, the little popup disappears. ????

Problems installing cabs on T-mobile HD2

I am having problems installing cabs on my new HD2 with T-mobile. About 90% of the ones I try just say uninstallable after I save them. I tried to download the BsB tweak cab and same thing. I tried to download .NetCF 3.5 and it won't install either. Can anyone give me an idea, and also is there a place on my phone I can find out what .NetCF I'm running? Do the HD2's already have 3.5 on them? I've done a search on here to try and find answers but nothing yet.
Try a Soft Reset, see if that helps...if not Hard Reset
zoth said:
Try a Soft Reset, see if that helps...if not Hard Reset
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Hold on, not just yet on the hard-reset...
amstaff, what exactly happens when you try to install CF3.5? Are you trying it from a cab or a desktop installer?
sirphunkee- I'm trying it from a cab. .NetCF keeps saying this is a previous version, that's why I was wondering if I have 3.5 already. I don't know where to look and see. I tried to download a cab off modaco that says which version is running but I can't install that cab. It's one that just says uninstallable.
amstaff72 said:
sirphunkee- I'm trying it from a cab. .NetCF keeps saying this is a previous version, that's why I was wondering if I have 3.5 already. I don't know where to look and see. I tried to download a cab off modaco that says which version is running but I can't install that cab. It's one that just says uninstallable.
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Yeah you know what, I thought I had to put 3.5 on here when I first got it, but I remember now that it was never needed so I assumed it was already on here.
Whatever is causing your problem, I don't think it's CF3.5, because I never put it on and I have BsB Tweak running just fine, and I've never had installation issues like that. So yeah, I think a hard-reset might be a good place to start, to try to get whatever is interefering with your installs cleared up.
I tried a hard reset and still the same problems. Things download I just can't install most of them. I need some help.
amstaff72 said:
I tried a hard reset and still the same problems. Things download I just can't install most of them. I need some help.
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Are you saving them to the SD card and running them from there? If so, try one running on the phone instead...just to rule out any issue with the card.
I tried that too. It still wont let me install. Is there some safety thing or something I need to disable? I remember in Vista microsoft made it impossible to delete and download some files, did they do something like that on winmo 6.5? It was like you had to have the administrator rights or something. I don't know what's going on, but customizing a windows phone is one of it"s best attributes, I can't even install any games. I need some help, please!
man...this is a chin scratcher never heard of any thing like this before. maybe it has something to do with the certificates. have you tried installing a free app from the marketplace that came on the phone. im curious if that would work.where are you getting the cabs you are trying to install. try something from freeware pocket pc.net
Yeah, the only apps that should potentially give you issues for insufficient rights when installing are homebrewed ones like those found here...but as long as you have sdkcerts installed even those shouldn't do that. But it sounds like the issue here goes beyond that because you're trying to install things that shouldn't need that anyway
NetCF 3.5
amstaff72 said:
sirphunkee- I'm trying it from a cab. .NetCF keeps saying this is a previous version, that's why I was wondering if I have 3.5 already. I don't know where to look and see. I tried to download a cab off modaco that says which version is running but I can't install that cab. It's one that just says uninstallable.
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T-Mobile HD2 (US) already has NetCF 3.5 installed.
I have tried cabs from here and from places like pocketpc.net and so many won't install. There are some that do but like I said about 90% don't. What is the sdkcerts or whatever, I don't think I have that do I need it to install some cabs? Please someone give me some Ideas. Thanks for letting me know about NetCF 3.5 I was wondering about that. But again need some ideas for the cabs. Thanks for the help and ideas so far.
I just tried to download and install the sdk certs cab. It downloaded and installed but I still can't install most cabs. I tried BsB tweaks again and it still says "BsB Tweaks uninstallable". Do I need to install the sdk certs somewhere special or can I just install it like normal?
amstaff72 said:
I just tried to download and install the sdk certs cab. It downloaded and installed but I still can't install most cabs. I tried BsB tweaks again and it still says "BsB Tweaks uninstallable". Do I need to install the sdk certs somewhere special or can I just install it like normal?
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You just install it like normal, it sounds like it went on fine for you....so the problem has to be somewhere else, but I'm really still at a loss on this one. I don't know what other cabs/apps you're trying, but I know BsB installed on mine without a hitch.
Let me ask you this....when you're using file explorer to navigate to a cab you want to install, do you do it in landscape mode? And then, as soon as you click the cab, you filp to portrait? I just remembered that whenever I did that, it killed the install, and I would need to click the cab to run it while in portrait mode. Just a thought.
Is there a place I need to check or something that maybe makes me administrator that could be guest or something right now?
sirphunkee-when I download and install cabs I click the link, it sends me to the save screen, I most of the time save to my card and then install...but I have tried to save to the hard drive and install but it doesn't seem to matter which way I do it. When I save and install, I just leave the phone in the regular position, I don't turn it on its side. Some of the apps I've tried to install as cabs that didn't work are grooveshark for 6.5 from pocketpc.net, BsB Tweaks from here, there was a couple of others I just tried to see if they would work from 1800pocketpc and they didn't work either. Only a few are installing without any problem. Thanks for your help sirphunkee, I appreciate it.

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