Hi all,
i have a serious problem with my MDA Vario II (HTC TyTN),
just have this device since 2 weeks, and last week i flashed a rom onto my device, its a nameless windows 6.1 rom...
the flash went perfect, the device worked flawlessly!
the device has been working fine all week, i had it hard reset for like 2 times.
now i did another hard reset, everything seemed to go just fine, battery was 100% device nicely came into the bootloader mode, nicely went resetted, perfectly booted letting me setup the device and calibrate the stylus right after this the device resetted itself and after the windows logo it just went into white screen, i waited this out for like 15 minutes and then i pressed soft reset... this white screen was the last thing i have seen on my screen so far (2 days ago now) the only thing my device does is give me a red led when it is connected to the wall charger or usb and the battery is not in the device
as long as my battery is in the device it does absolutely nothing, no sign of life!! not even a red led!
is there anything i can do about this? or do i need to send it away to t-mobile?
i really hope someone can help me with this one!
cheers ChilleCharlie
ps: normally when i press both the soft keys and the reset it would take me into bootloader mode, this doesnt even work no more!
i have been reading on this forum for 2 days now i just have no idea what this problem could be! can somebody please help me! i think it might be my accupack is that possible for a 2 weeks old phone?
is a herm100/200/300 device capable of booting without a battery in it?
cheers Charlie
ok here comes the test result, i was planning on shipping my phone back to the supplier but instead of this i tested my battery with a electrometer guess what? 0,04 volts are on my lipo pack!! OMG battery sudden death! never had this before in my life! now i know i can fix this battery pack did that before with some years old li ion and some months old lipo's but since i am under warranty i hell yea am gonna make use of it! this pack will be sent back to t-mobile in the meanwhile ill buy my ass a new one so i can use my phone
thanks for everything this website is great even thow i havent had 1 reply yet, thanks to you guys i got wm6.1 and will get it back running now! tytytyty btw i heard something about hardspl beeing more safe? i guess i should flash it onto my device or is that risky to do ?
Sorry, didn't see your post until today. Might not have been able to help anyway.. Glad to hear you sorted that out OK though..
As for Hard SPL, its a must to have on your Hermes before flashing as it will make it possible to recover from a bad flash. Its NOT a guarantee but it is a safety net to help when things can/do go wrong.
Would also suggest using the sd card method for rom flashing as its safer than via pc(Hard SPL takes about 2 secs to upgrade so I do that from the pc BUT you can do this via sd card too).
Welcome and happy flashing...
thank you for that information once i get my device running again it will be the first thing ill install even thow i dont think my problem is rom-related anyway, today my battery has been tested in a different phone, as i thought it was completely dead! also my phone has been tested with another battery... well my phone is completely dead as well! i think it has had a short circuit somewhere inside which would explain why it doesnt do anything with or without battery installed...
i do not know for sure thow.. but thank god i still have my warranty.. althow im not sure about this since my phone wasnt running official firmware.. but i guess that has nothing to do with hardware malfunction now does it? so ill be sending it back to the supplier tommorow damn i cant stand not having this device working
cheers chillecharlie
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Hi all
About 4 weeks ago my XDA 2 was out of Battery and i wanted to charge it in the craddle. But when i put the XDA 2 in my craddle (with attatched power supply) the status led only turned RED and nothing else happend. After 30 minutes the status led turns off. I can not power on the xda, not with a soft reset and even not with a hard reset. So i thougt that the battery is maybe dead (too old or whatever ) and i bought a new one....but..... still the same problem!
When i charge the battery directly in the craddle (that works! led on the craddle changes after a few hours from orange to green) and put it after that back into the XDA 2.......... nothing happens....
please help
Hi,
I have the very same problem since month ago, I upgraded to wm2k5 2.03.32wwe, did a change in the system, and after 24h, my phone went dead
Did you do a rom upgrade or in any way altered something in the system? Let us know if you get it work, ok?
J.
The only ROM Update i made was the official one from O²... And this was half a year ago.
Well but..... I SOLVED IT! But i cannot say how... The only thing i've done is that i opened the XDA2 and deconstructioned it in its parts... Well and when i "just for fun" tried to connect the battery to the battery connectors..... DING DING So i assembled it again and now it works fine!
I also cleaned a lot of dirt out of it, maybe this was the reason. I will keep an eye on this...
But thanks for your efforts...
Greetings Ben
Da*n it, you lucky guy,
I wish I get off with such a simple solution. I do not have the right tools but I am out just now and getting the things I need. Fingers crossed
Red light means, you have problem with battery. At first check, if you have closed red lock on the bottom of battery. There is no switch to sense rear cover, so, it doesn't matter, if it put or not.
If battery is installed, lock closed, but you still have red light - try to obtain for a minute working battery from another Himalaya and have a try. If it does not work too... seems it's a hardware problem there.
Same thing happened to me I just took the battery out and left it for a few minutes then back in and it works
John P
Thanks for your reply guys. I've tried everything you guys suggested, but I've been unsuccessful in starting my PDA. It's been like this for 2 months, I've tried taking out the battery, changing the battery etc, but still nothing. So I figured out it's probably a problem with the b/l mode, since I'm unable to enter b/l at all. I gave it to of mine who's a little more tech savvy, he's got the right tools to take the chip out, and if he can manage to flash the b/l. Has anyone done that. If yes, please advise. My friend has fixed some BIOS's for laptops etc, but this will be his first PDA. He said that he doesn't have a board for the PDA chip but will try to work it out some way around. Perhaps someone can advise me where to get that board from?
Anyway, I will keep you posted,and if you guys have any more ideas or experiences, please share.
J.
I make a ROM upgrade for WM6(1st versions) three week past.
Works for 2 days and after this, when i reset or turn ON, show the Rom versions numbers normaly and when it should enter in Mobile Windows, the screen distorts and they show some vertical lines.
I try reinstall the others ROM, but nothing.
What i do.
Thanks,
Fersoft
Wish I could help
Sounds like its been dropped or knocked. I've never heard of anything like this previously. I've been upgrading for years on all types of htc phones. I may be corrected but I do not see how a ROM can ruin your model in this way.
Have you got the original back up of the ROM that you started with?
I can olny enter in USB mode.
What ROM to RESERT completly my Pocketpc ?
Thanks any help.
Have you tried to flash an original ROM from the three color screen?
WM6 is the problem...
I got the same problem as you dude.... sounds like crossbow version isn't really suited for prophet. And I guess we'll get more and more of these troubles while more and more users are tested it (at least the first versions). I guess it has something to do with power management, and the way WM6 handles the battery. Mine got better after I flashed it back to WM5, but it still had the problem, and I had to send it back to warranty...
While you find a "solution", you can get it to work again for a few hours by letting it turned off for a few hours, battery out. That way I could flash it back to another rom. But still, after a few hours it would crash or reset itself, and you'll have to let it off without battery for a moment...
If an admin read this, I guess it could be VERY usefull to stick it to let people know they can arm their device that way.
Good luck
Amazing. I got exactly the same problem.
I am back to WM5, however, I still cant use the phone properly. After ten minutes into a phone call it crashes. When I reset I get until the OS loading screen (sometimes it even omits the radio rom number which usually comes between the SPL and OS). Then the screen distorts and thats it.
If I get the battery out for a short while and then connect it to the charger, I can restart the phone after 1-2 hours and it will load properly. However, again after 10 minutes into a phone call it crashes.
Any idea if a new battery would help, because I get more and more the feeling that something is actually wrong with the power/battery system.
Is WM6 even a final version?
I don't see any equipment running WM6 as of now, that's why i asked.
really? I don't think so.
However, every MS software still has a lot of a bug....
I have the same problem, but now even a bigger problem !
I have NO backup!
I don't know how to get it back to the original rom because mine freezes with the screen when the os version is in screen!
Damn, I only got the phone back for 4 hours because is was getting repared for a speaker failure.
and isn't that ironic..
After installing a new rom ,my polaris died ,no lights not recharging , I removed the battery,the SD and the sim card for > 24hrs and still the usb is not recognised and no lights at all and also not recharging any solution????
Hold camera button, and turn the phone on.. then you will get the hard spl boot screen..
After this you can flash a new rom.
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After installing a new rom ,my polaris died ,no lights not recharging , I removed the battery,the SD and the sim card for > 24hrs and still the usb is not recognised and no lights at all and also not recharging any solution????
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do you have anything on the screen at all? or is the screen off as well?
try to be more specific please if you want to fix the problem:
What rom were you trying to flash?
do you have hardspl?
are you an experienced user or a novice?
was the battery fully charged?
did it flash completely and give you a message telling you it was successful?
is anything coming on at all?
is it under warranty still?
if you supply at least this information you will have a better chance that someone can help you fux it fast.
best of luck.
Venigo Thank u for your reply I tried this and tried many things before post ,no response.
bally3 Thank u for your reply I'll try to be more specific:
This happened after I flashed new Parcvello extreme rom.
I had a hard spl
I'm an experienced user
The battery was not fully charged and after flashing the rom I opened my polaris and it worked for 3 minutes after that it died.
No thing is coming at all
The warrenty period finished 6 months back
Thank u for your wiching best luck
notebook said:
Venigo Thank u for your reply I tried this and tried many things before post ,no response.
bally3 Thank u for your reply I'll try to be more specific:
This happened after I flashed new Parcvello extreme rom.
I had a hard spl
I'm an experienced user
The battery was not fully charged and after flashing the rom I opened my polaris and it worked for 3 minutes after that it died.
No thing is coming at all
The warrenty period finished 6 months back
Thank u for your wiching best luck
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My first advice is to try another battery. I cant see it being rom or flash related though its quite possible its hardware related and would need service centre attention.
Try a new battery. since you say nothing is coming on at all, I take it theres no power at all to it. You can try another battery or ask someone to test the battery for you using a meter to see if theres any charge in the battery itself.
When you say not fully charged I hope you mean like 40% and not 20% before flashing.
Did you get through all the setup before it crashed? Not that important but just trying to get a picture of what was happening when it went off.
if all else fails if you got it on contract you could ring them and ask them to look at it. If it isnt on contract then might be worth biting the bullet and seeing how much a repair centre would charge to fix it. You should at least be able to get a free estimate.
it can't be the battery, since the phone can work via the net with the battery out, even if the phone is off.
BelgicanoFL said:
it can't be the battery, since the phone can work via the net with the battery out, even if the phone is off.
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You are responsible of wasting 3 minutes of my life testing your theory...
Polaris wont work without battery as i predicted...at least mine wont...
So the battery might still be a possibility as mentioned above...
I dont see any other possibility beyond hardware failure.I tested all PCarvalho´s xtreme ROM´s and never had problems beyond software issues and he flashed the ROM and it was ok for 3 minutes as he said...at least bootloader would kick in.
Thank u all for your reply : I didn't mention that PCarvalho 's Rom is the cause I'm sure it isn't.
My second step is changing the battery and I 'll till you about the progress.
Still the same proplem after i tested the battery which is charged
in that case its a repair centre job then unfortunately...sorry to say.
Do any body knows where is the HTC repair centre in Cairo,Egypt
actually i had a similar problem. polaris totaly dead. then i discovered, that the sim slot thingy didn't "click in" properly. that solved my problem.
Hey everyone, my hd2 died (original 1.48 rom), I already tried soft reset, hard reset, put out my battery, charge it and everyhting that came to my mind but when i turn it on it wont go further than the first htc image.
Is there anything i cant do or should i just take it back to the shop?
Thanks
I would take it back, even if you do fix it. You don't want a phone that may still have a underlying problem.
Htc HD2 BRICK Need HELP!!!!!!!
I flashed Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.2.23554.5.5.0_1.72_Multi-Lang_6.5.5_Radio_2.07.51.22.2_V1.2_WWE into tmobile htc hd2 cause i was [email protected]$kin goin Rom happy and didnt double check its compatibility and my screen went blank black, cant power on, cant go into bootloader, and cant hard reset but when i plug it in to my computer it recognizes it as a device without a driver i saw it in the device manager on windows 7 ulitmate. CAN I SAVE MY HTC HD2??
I KILL my htc hd2 (BRICKED)
I used HSPL2_1024_RUN.exe i flashed like 5 roms within 24hrs i was trying them out and this one made killed my hd2.
for those stuck on the htc boot image
take off the back cover of the phone and press the little red button, this will restart the phone
AS SOON AS you press it, press and hold the volume down button this will bring you to the bootloader
connect the phone via usb to your computer and flash a different radio rom (look first which are compatible with your rom)
if this doesnt work, using the same method flash back to your original rom.
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I flashed Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.2.23554.5.5.0_1.72_Multi-Lang_6.5.5_Radio_2.07.51.22.2_V1.2_WWE into tmobile htc hd2 cause i was [email protected]$kin goin Rom happy and didnt double check its compatibility and my screen went blank black, cant power on, cant go into bootloader, and cant hard reset but when i plug it in to my computer it recognizes it as a device without a driver i saw it in the device manager on windows 7 ulitmate. CAN I SAVE MY HTC HD2??
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for tmous with 1gb rom NEVER flash a radio with .51. in the code.
still haven't seen anyone recover from this. if anyone has please let me know.
Damn it captain!!!!!!
I just got it on the 24th shhhhhhhh....... ummm i just will take it to TMOBILE i hope i can get an other one, they may not have one in stock or they WONT give me another. i will see as soon as the store opens.
Sorry to hear about people's problems. Just remember if you have TMobile
USA there is NOT a way to flash another rom onto the phone..Just give it time the wonderful folks here are working on it. If your still in your 14 day grace period just return the phone to the store and play dumb. You might
have to wait for another phone since apparently they did not anticipate
how many people wanted this phone and sold out quickly. I know I was there
at 6:30 and the second in line and they only had 5!
Anyway, the most important thing you can do here is DO a search!
I KILL my htc hd2 (BRICKED)
BUT I have flashed roms into Tmobiles htc hd2 like TOUCH_X_TREME_23549_TMOUS_2_30_5_49 among others and they worked! i was just try different ones and i PICKED and I BRICKED!!!!!!!!!!!
Damitu said:
Just remember if you have TMobile
USA there is NOT a way to flash another rom onto the phone..
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sorry? sure about that? seems to me lots of people have successfully flashed their tmous hd2.
It only goes wrong if you
1 - flash a rom based on anything less than 2.10 rom
or
2 - flash a radio with ..51.. in the version number.
I KILL my htc hd2 (BRICKED)
When I take it back do you think tmobile can they tell if i flashed a rom?
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When I take it back do you think tmobile can they tell if i flashed a rom?
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possibly, however its worth a try, there are other people that have reported they got it exchanged. the worst theu can do is send you it back un fixed. They can't keep it and make you pay for the fix.
I KILL my htc hd2 (BRICKED) and the walk of SHAME!!!
Ok well thanks for your GREAT!!! input how can i add you to friends for future epic fail endeavours!!! i encounter.
hpg said:
Ok well thanks for your GREAT!!! input how can i add you to friends for future epic fail endeavours!!! i encounter.
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hehe, i rarely bother accepting friend requests, this isnt a social networking site!
Just find any post be me, and either click my name or the green button next to my name to PM me.
Shamely going back to tmobile on wed
I went to tmobile last friday they tried to turn it on, pushing reset and taking out the battery so they put me on a list for this coming wed. I still got the bricked one with me they told me to bring it in for a trade. i have tried everything to turn it on but the screen remains BLACK. so i got a BLACK BRICK!!!
Any more ideas?
cgrec92 said:
for those stuck on the htc boot image
take off the back cover of the phone and press the little red button, this will restart the phone
I do not see a little red button under the back cover. I am in the US, just bought phone, slightly used of course, no warranty. It suddenly went dead this afternoon while charging, will sometimes try to power up but will just keep flashing that one screen "stick together" over and over.....
Tried another battery, same thing.
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Mine is doing the same thing . . . in the US, the reset button is right next to the SD card slot, and it's yellow. Mine wouldn't come on Friday, and I started a web chat with Tmobile to see if they would exchange it, and then it just came back on. They said as long as the white sticker at the top of the battery compartment is still white (proving you didn't get it wet), then they will exchange it. It worked fine for me the rest of the weekend (AFTER I did a hard reset, and got it running great!!). This morning, I locked it while running MobiTV, then I couldn't unlock it, so I pulled the battery. That was 2 hours ago, and it still won't come on . . .
If it doesn't come on before I leave work, I'm taking it to Tmobile tonight!!
UPDATED 20 minutes later: Just came on . . . no rhyme or reason why?? Just started after MULTIPLE times of taking out and putting back battery, SIM, and SD card. Got the same error that I've been getting the last couple months on reboots (services.exe)?? When I did a CleanRAM, it free'd up 3.36MB . . . so SOMETHING was hung up, but nothing was running in the task manager??
Generally, few task managers show what's really going on with the phone's memory. Use an advanced task manager which will allow you to control the actual processes running on your device, Google for the names of those which seem to cause mischief and terminate them (if possible) or try to find a solution.
hpg said:
When I take it back do you think tmobile can they tell if i flashed a rom?
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Hey I am also Tmobile User and I have flashed a few ROMS luckily I have not Bricked my phone (knock on wood.) I was just wondering how your return went? I have insurance on mine and figured I would just take it back if that happened. I just didn't know if that would work? Did you ever get a new one
Another update . . . used my phone all afternoon, and tried to charge it, and it wouldn't charge??? Luckily, my husband has the same phone, so I checked his with the same charger. Compared the two phones, and the prongs that hit the battery were bent back. I folded them back down, and now it can charge again. Makes me wonder if that is the problem with the phone not coming back on? Maybe putting the battery back in so that it wasn't hitting the prongs has been keeping it from turning back on . . .
Bricked my blackstone, cannot charge, cannot turn on or enter bootloader. Wondering if there's anyway to unbrick besides JTAG. Thanks for any help.
have you tried leaving out the battery for a few minutes and then enter bootloader? And how did you brick it?
if you have the bootloader hspl on i find it hard that you managed to brick it, your phone might be damaged. have you tried to charge the battery or replacei t with one with power in and start up?
i let my brother use the phone for a while and somehow it came back to me in this state. I've tried leaving the battery out overnight, charging with original cable, zapping the battery with 9v & exposed USB, and also buying a new battery.
I think your the phone is totally dead if there is no charging LED light and the phone will not turn on.
See - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697568&highlight=totally+dead
i had a similar problem..
there is no charging taking place, no screen display, but if u hold the power key long enough u get a vibration nd then the boot up sound but nothing on screen. leave it that way and after sometime screen starts workin..
found that the problem is something related to "microp error" which is strangely neither a hardware error nor a software error. some people reported that a complete disassembly and reassembly resolved their problem but tht too did not work in my case..
htc said they needed to replace the motherboard, but m outta warranty so m not getting it done.
neways best luck for ur fone
cheers
Thanks for all the input, it's pretty clear that the phone is dead and since i'm out of warranty i will be having the motherboard replaces. I guess you'll see a thread in marketplace for my hd as parts...
Unfortunatly , the same problem occured to me 2 days ago :/ .. the phone was working great , i just removed an application , installed another one and played the monopoly game for like 2 hours . when i finished playing i locked the phone.. tried to unlock it again , the screen didnt work , i tried charging it , the LED didnt work , i removed the battery, restarted the phone .. i heard the login sound but the screen didnt work too.
However, 4-5 hours later i gave it another try ... everything worked fine .. but the same problem occured when i locked it
I am not out of warranty date .. but am pretty sure they will remove my warranty when they find out that i used that permenant spl thingy + a cooked rom
and since an old nokia 7710 Motherboard costs 1700 ep in egypt ( $ 310 ) i cant afford to change the HDs one
anyway, as a last try ... is there anything i can do if i manage to open the phone again? change the rom maybe? oh .. and btw can i change the HSPL back to the stock one + installing a stock rom? maybe then they wouldnt cancel my warranty
oh and whats JTAG ?
thnx in advance for ur replies
Dear Fady
First of All change the HSPL back to the stock one and after installing a stock ROM i am sure your problem will solved.
if you got any information's regarding the JTAG please post here.
Regards
Shahid