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No BootLoader

Hello!
I want to upgrade my MDA. So I wanted to check out the BootLoader of my devcie. When I press the on/off button and hold it while pressing the left reset, the screen stays empty and nothing happens. If I let the power button go, then it performs a normal boot.
Can anyone help me?
I dont whant to make an 'EXE'-Upgrade...

Never tried it myself, but there is a tool from the Developers here to fix the bootloader.
http://www.xda-developers.com/XDAtools/
Seach a little bit here around....
HTH
Stefan

If indeed there is no bootloader I would suggest you definitely get that fixed before attempting any rom upgrade otherwise you could end up with a paperweight rather than a pda/phone.

This sentence with the 'paperweight' is written many times here! :lol:
But no risk, no fun... or?
I will try to fix the bootloader and I will write here again about the success...
Thank you for the answers,
cadkiwi

I just used the XDA-Tools to restore my bootloader.
I never killed it, but it wasn't there!
So I choose to fix it. It worked! Great Job!
I had a SD-Card prblem till now. Everytime I inserted a card my device makes a reset. Some research found that one of the pins in the slot were bended. I opened the MDA and fixed the Pin.
Tomorrow I will check if sd cards are working now!
If yes, then I will move to a newer ROM and from 2002 to 2003!
Thank U guys!
See ya...
cadkiwi

bricked my vogue

i used imcokemans unlocker (which i have done before) and blee0125's kitchen and really screwed up somewhere!
i cant get it past the "htc smart mobility" screen. it comes up, tells me the driver and radio versions, then those disappear like they are supposed to and...nothing else.
any suggestions would be great, plz im dying here!
i have tried hard and soft resetting and...nothing!
THANKS.
EDIT: just for those coming to this ancient and recently revived thread, this (my) problem has been solved. altho there are other people now with similar problems

Have you tried re-flashing?

jim256 said:
i used imcokemans unlocker (which i have done before) and blee0125's kitchen and really screwed up somewhere!
i cant get it past the "htc smart mobility" screen!! it comes up, tells me the driver and radio versions, then those disappear like they are supposed to and...nothing else.
can anybody help me???? PLZ im dying here!
i have tried hard and soft resetting and...nothing!
THANKS.
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Do a camera power reset and try again.

i tried that and it didnt do anything at all. isnt that just where you hold the end key and the side camera key and stick the stylus into the hole?
if so, it have any different effect than the standard soft reset

AraqirG said:
Have you tried re-flashing?
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and i did try...sort of. im not sure how to seeing as how i can never make it past the boot screen, and therefore cannot connect it to activesync.
THANKS.

jim256 said:
and i did try...sort of. im not sure how to seeing as how i can never make it past the boot screen, and therefore cannot connect it to activesync.
THANKS.
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Hold down the power button and the camera button at the same time until the tri colored bootloader comes up. If that works, try flashing the stock rom for your carrier.
If that doesn't work try the same steps with the memory card removed.
If that doesn't work try to do a hard reset and see if that will take you to the bootloader.
Also, what are the numbers in on the bootloader...are you sure your device is unlocked? I believe it should say... SPL-00.40.coke... on the 2nd line if your unlocked.

You shouldn't need to connect to activesync to reboot. After you run ImCokeMan's unlocker you should be unlocked until you run it again.
As I said in the last post, all you have to do to get to the boot loader is hold down the power and camera buttons at the same time. This will put the phone into the boot loader and you should be able to flash back to the stock rom and start over.
It kind of sounds like you relocked the phone and then tried to boot a custom rom.

sorry i wasnt saying i needed to connect to activesync to reboot, i was saying i needed to connect to activesync to flash, and it wouldnt boot up so i couldnt get to activesync.
and i did to imcokemans unlocker, and everything went fine. when i was setting up the device (ie. setting password, time zone, calibration, etc...) i just decided that i didnt need to finish that as i was intending on flashing a custom rom anyway, and so any settings i put up the time to set would be erased.
having said that, i went ahead and starting flashing a custom rom right from the wm welcome screen that you get on a first boot.
thanks a LOT for your help, promptness, and attention

So are you back up and running?

well, now i am. i just took a 30 min drive down to the sprint store and got a replacement :S
thanks a lot for your help though, im scared i may really need to refer back to this thread later. but if i do, at least i know i should be able to fix it!
thanks.

well, i just did it again. i must be doing something wrong in the cooking of my ROMs...about to try out your solution..hope it works!!
wish me luck :S :S :S :S

well i was able to re-flash, but, unfortunately, it is stuck in the same "htc smart mobility" screen again. i think i have been able to narrow it down to the oemizer app. i must be doing something wrong in there.
oemizer http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=100746&referrerid=10115
ill keep cooking and trying tonight until i find what it is the problem is i guess, thx for your help guys. especially you 360discgolf.

well, after cooking and flashing too many times to remember this late, all i can do is ask for help when you guys wake up and check this thread.
in the last couple of builds i havent been doing anything with oemizer at all and it still hasnt been working, and i dont think i am doing anything extra in buildos that i havent done before in successful ROM images...it seems sort of erratic.
any suggestions/hints/comments would be great, thanks a lot.

you can't just hold the two buttons and press the reset. You have to hold the two buttons at the same time, then while holding them, use the stylus to hold the reset until it restarts. If you just tap the reset button while hold, it doesn't work.

360discgolf said:
You shouldn't need to connect to activesync to reboot. After you run ImCokeMan's unlocker you should be unlocked until you run it again.
As I said in the last post, all you have to do to get to the boot loader is hold down the power and camera buttons at the same time. This will put the phone into the boot loader and you should be able to flash back to the stock rom and start over.
It kind of sounds like you relocked the phone and then tried to boot a custom rom.
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i'm having a similar problem. my attempt at flashing didn't go over that well and now when I turn off the device, I can't turn it on again unless I do a soft reset. I tried doing the power/camera thing but all it does is ask "are you sure, yada yada" and then the devices turns off. you were talking about a stock rom? where would I get one and how would I re-flash the rom (assuming that's the problem in the first place.).
Thanks!

vkolas said:
i'm having a similar problem. my attempt at flashing didn't go over that well and now when I turn off the device, I can't turn it on again unless I do a soft reset. I tried doing the power/camera thing but all it does is ask "are you sure, yada yada" and then the devices turns off. you were talking about a stock rom? where would I get one and how would I re-flash the rom (assuming that's the problem in the first place.).
Thanks!
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what carrier are you?
EDIT: also:
1) what os version are you running? (build number)
2) what radio are you running?
3) what bootloader are you on? (can be accessed via holding power + camera button and poking reset hole)
4) what are the orange numbers in the very bottom right of the screen when you are booting up?
these kinds of things all need to kind of jive for the sleep function to work correctly

jim256 said:
i used imcokemans unlocker (which i have done before) ...
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If you used the imcokemans unlocker a 2nd time, I believe you re-lock your phone.
You also mentioned that you tried to flash the ROM from the Welcome Screen. That certainly won't work. You have to be at the unlocked rainbow bootloader screen which will load when you run the RUU or when you press Power-Camera-Reset. If it doesn't go into bootloader then you've probably re-locked your phone.

denasqu said:
If you used the imcokemans unlocker a 2nd time, I believe you re-lock your phone.
You also mentioned that you tried to flash the ROM from the Welcome Screen. That certainly won't work. You have to be at the unlocked rainbow bootloader screen which will load when you run the RUU or when you press Power-Camera-Reset. If it doesn't go into bootloader then you've probably re-locked your phone.
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haha sorry this is a problem that i had a VEERRRRY LONG time ago. have learned a lot since since then, now it is this other fella here we are trying to help him
thx tho!

HTC hangs in bootloader after attempt to flash rom

Hi!
I have a HTC P3300.
I bought a 4Gb SDHC card, and it won't work. I read at the forum that I would need a different rom, so I downloaded "Artemis_Touch_4.02_Full_with_no_cube", which would have sdhc-support.
Then I executed "STEP 1 - activesync then uspl cid unlocking.bat", that finished ok, and then "STEP 2 - activesync then flash artemis touch rom.bat", which stopped with an error 302.
After a restart all that came up was the boot loader. I then tried to flash the original rom (HTC WM6 Dutch) from the computer, but that ended also in an error.
I tried the SD upgrade (rename .nbh file to ARTEIMG.nbh, put it on a formatted sd-card and load it in my phone), and it finished without errors, saying I should press any key.
After pressing a key, the bootloader popped up again.... :S
Can anyone help me? I have been searching the forum and trying to get my phone to work since 21:00 and I haven't got any progress at all!

well sorry for that
did you tried to make hard reset?
and once i had a completely dead artemis.. no sign of life..but it fixed by the following..(and maybe this may help you cuz the flasheng goes not like usual)
while your mobile is off.. press the record botton and the camera and it should starts with usual sd card flashing.
for me this what happens.
the setup was in three phases as i saw... and it took about 30 mins .
maybe it will works for you

I also tried a hard reset, wouldn't work.
I pressed and hold the camerabutton, but nothing happend...
Maybe the battery is empty, so I pressed and hold the camera button while plugging in the usb-cable.
It started the SD-upgrade, and is still busy.

The update ended with a "press any key to continue".
But when I pressed a key, the boot loader popped up :S
When I tried to flash another rom (NLD-FINAL), an error occurred (I believe it was error 270, not sure).
But then the normal startup screen appeared!
I don't know how, but the problem seems to be fixed!

sorry i mentioned the wronge button before..
try to start flashing by pressing the RECORED button and the power.. while your mobile is off.
and be sure that you copied the original shipped ROM to your device (NOT elese)

As you can see in my previous post, I managed to flash the original rom.
I'm gonna try to upload an other rom some other time...
And with a patch I got the SDHC working too!
Thnx for your help!

y_bother said:
sorry i mentioned the wronge button before..
try to start flashing by pressing the RECORED button and the power.. while your mobile is off.
and be sure that you copied the original shipped ROM to your device (NOT elese)
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Hey, thanks a lot, I tought, my HTC-Cruise is ready for sending to repair, but with your info, it works again. I could install the WM 6.1 again, after System hangs up while booting every time. He found USB connection on a colored sreen. Thank you very much.
Jupeli

Stuck on WM load and can't flash.

Hi all,
i have a problem with one device here - Orbit II.
It is stuck on booting WM with volume controls on the screen. Usually it's not a big deal and can be solver with HR or by flashing a new rom, but the problem is that i cannot get it to do a HR: white screen with warning appears but when i press send buttong(the green one) - nothing happens, it doesn't react at all.
Ok, i was thinking to flash it, but another problem appeared: i can't enter bootloader(2 softbuttons+reset), same procedure works fine on my own device but this one just reboots and no bootloader...
I'm kinda out of options now.
Any help is appreciated.

Magnus23 said:
Ok, i was thinking to flash it, but another problem appeared: i can't enter bootloader(2 softbuttons+reset), same procedure works fine on my own device but this one just reboots and no bootloader...
I'm kinda out of options now.
Any help is appreciated.
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press & hold camera button and make soft reset...

Thank you for the answer but i as said in first post, i have tried this, the white screen with the warning appears but pressing Send button does nothing, device does not react to this, so hard reset doesn't happen.
If someone could point to me any other way to enter bootloader - i can work my way from there.
I have also tried MTTY but USB connection doesn't appear in the list(yes, i have killed the activesync processes).

which screen
1st,
2nd, radio protocol version
3rd gif splash
4th wimo load screen
And also what rom have you got on atm.

It is stuck on 4th wimo load screen.
I have no idea about the actual WN version as it's not my device, but i assume it's the original O2 rom since there is still O2 splash screen.

Magnus23 said:
It is stuck on 4th wimo load screen.
I have no idea about the actual WN version as it's not my device, but i assume it's the original O2 rom since there is still O2 splash screen.
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o well then i take its not hard-spl'd in which case i really do not get it, i have got into bootloader at the radio version screen so i dont get this one?? Is it still covered by o2 warrenty, it is 2 yrs long so best bet go to them and see what they say...
Thats if it has no hard-spl... If not take the battery out for a day and see if that brings it back to life, stranger things have happened seen that solve quite a few problems.

Well, device is not mine, a friend asked to look at it. I don't think he got a warranty left.
Well, the thing is, its not a big deal realy, it's not bricked or anything, i just need to get into bootloader, from there i can flash hardspl and the rest from SD... i just haven't seen this thing before... unable to enter the bootloader.

Is there any way to force the device to enter bootloader? I mean other than the standart procedures of Camera+reset?
I think i've seen somewhere a CustomRUU that could do that, even with incomplete WM boot. Like send some commands to the device to enter bootloader.
Does anyone know anything like this?

[Q] Stuck at bootloader at boot

Hi
A friend of mine has a HD2, never HSPL or anything and still running on 1.42 rom.... Now everytime it boots it goes straight into the bootloader. Since its never been messed around with I find it odd, seen it before with people with other phones. Would this just be a corrupted ROM and therefore it goes there, would if poss a stock rom flash be able to restore the phone, if that is not the case then a warranty return is still valid, but obv not wanted.
What do you think, will this work? I did search but everyone's posts come up with I task 29 and now stuck... etc and not from a stock bootloader as well!
Cheers any help will be appreciated, my first thing I will get him to try is a rom reflash but that will be tonight, I'll update on the progress then!

First thing I would check is if his volume button is stuck for some reason. Second would be to see if it detects a USB connection, then hard spl and new rom from that point. Keep us posted.
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chris10230 said:
Hi
A friend of mine has a HD2, never HSPL or anything and still running on 1.42 rom.... Now everytime it boots it goes straight into the bootloader. Since its never been messed around with I find it odd, seen it before with people with other phones. Would this just be a corrupted ROM and therefore it goes there, would if poss a stock rom flash be able to restore the phone, if that is not the case then a warranty return is still valid, but obv not wanted.
What do you think, will this work? I did search but everyone's posts come up with I task 29 and now stuck... etc and not from a stock bootloader as well!
Cheers any help will be appreciated, my first thing I will get him to try is a rom reflash but that will be tonight, I'll update on the progress then!
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The post above me is correct check and make sure the volume down button is not stuck/Hung in the down position. If it is stuck in the down position like it is being held down at boot then this is the cause of it going straight to bootloader at boot up. If there is no problem with the volume down button then try a hard reset of the HD2. Warning this will reset your friends HD2 tolike it was fresh out the box so any photos, videos, documents, and etc that is not on the SD card they will lose. Also any contacts that are not backed up withan app like Microsoft My Phone will be lost. To do the reset while the HD2 is off bold the volume up and the volume down buttons down and press and bold the power button down. When you see the tri color screen come up release the volume and power buttons and follow the instructions on the screen (hint: you will want to press the vume up button). Now if after the Hard reset your friends HD2 still goes to bootloader at boot up then download and flash the stock ROM for their HD2 you can find it on HTC.com but make sure you varifiy that it is for their HD2 by entering the serial number of their HD2 you can find the serial number look under the battery. To flash the ROM let the HD2 boot up to the bootloader and then connect it to the computer via USB cable and wait for the Serial in the white bar of the boooader screen to change to USB and for your computer to show it recognize the pbone and then run the .exe or RUU wich everone the ROM has.

Never thought of the key being held done will try that first.
Also I won't HSPL'ing as its in warranty and a half HSPL'ed phone is well useless

OK so i feel like a bit of an idiot for this one. Turns out what I call a bootloader and he does is totally different. For me Its the tri-colour screen, for him its the red/orange windows boot screen. So it was all solved by a HR. Great..
Sorry for those who offered the advice but it really was not needed. but solid advice it was, you always can rely on help in here