is it just me or does the wing have a very low backlit during the day, when im outside I can barely see my phones screen and yes my backlit is all the way up.
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Is it possible to one day change the keyboard backlight brightness? Under normal lighting conditions the backlight on the bronze G1 washes out the letters making it extremely difficult to see the keys.
The backlights under the keyboard and the chin buttons seem to be very dim and I would guess that there is a way to adjust the brightness as can be done with the display backlight.
Hopefully someone can look into seeing if it's possible or an official patch is released to raise the brightness. A different color would have been better, too bad the whole "put blue LEDs in every damn consumer product" trend is over, I think blue LEDs would be much more visible.
i haven't had any problems with the brightness, but what really bothers me is that the backlight turns off so damn fast. On my old Dash, the keyboard light was controlled directly by the screen's backlight. If the screen was lit up, so was the keyboard.
I'm getting really tired of hitting the menu button to turn the lights back on without messing anything up.
chefgon said:
I'm getting really tired of hitting the menu button to turn the lights back on without messing anything up.
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It annoys me too, but tip: nudge the trackball a tiny bit, not enough to move the cursor. You'll get used to it until there is some type of fix.
Is there a way tio get a clock in the screensaver? my just turns totally black.. in my old nokia and SE it was possible to put a clock in there.. i have tried but cant find anything about it.. / Jörgen
It's not a screensaver, that's the screen being turned off to save battery. My guess is that on smaller screens the power drain involved in displaying the clock is quite low as the backlight wasn't on. On the screen on the hero (and pretty much every other colour screen phone brought out in the last 5 years) the screens need to be backlit to show anything and the power drain would be huge.
In short, there might be an application to do it but you are far better off just pressing the on button when you want to see the time.
herman3101 said:
On the screen on the hero (and pretty much every other colour screen phone brought out in the last 5 years) the screens need to be backlit to show anything
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Really? Why is that?
Modern LCDs all have a backlight and the image you see is obtained by filtering this light through individual switchable filters (these make up the pixels). In the past some screens worked by varying how light is reflected from the screen using these filters but these are inferior to modern lcds. We are now seeing a return to non-backlit screens with the new OLED technology but this is still actively lit at the individual pixel level.
If you don't believe me then take apart a laptop or LCD screen and disconnect the power inverter which is responsible to supplying the power to the backlight. The screen will appear to be completely dark unless you shine a very bright light on it and then you will be able to see the image very faintly. Just don't do what I did and snap the inverter, felt very silly.
The keyboard backlight and the backlight of the capacitive buttons is controlled by the light sensor on the phone. It my living room at the moment. The system can't decide whether the backlight should be on or off. It's really ****ing annoying. It turns on then off again about three times per sentence so far!
Why can't it just be ON when the screen is on and OFF when the screen is off? I don't even have automatic brightness on. The tiny amount of power wasted when your in bright light would be worth it.
I've also seen the keyboard backlight stay off at times when it was quite dim where I was; times when I really could have used it!
I don't understand how this sort of crappy behavior gets through HTC quality assurance testing. Don't they use the phones before just shipping them out?
EDIT: Oh, hey! Problem solved. I put a small piece of black electrical tape over the god damn light sensor. >.<
elusivebyte said:
The keyboard backlight and the backlight of the capacitive buttons is controlled by the light sensor on the phone. It my living room at the moment. The system can't decide whether the backlight should be on or off. It's really ****ing annoying. It turns on then off again about three times per sentence so far!
Why can't it just be ON when the screen is on and OFF when the screen is off? I don't even have automatic brightness on. The tiny amount of power wasted when your in bright light would be worth it.
I've also seen the keyboard backlight stay off at times when it was quite dim where I was; times when I really could have used it!
I don't understand how this sort of crappy behavior gets through HTC quality assurance testing. Don't they use the phones before just shipping them out?
EDIT: Oh, hey! Problem solved. I put a small piece of black electrical tape over the god damn light sensor. >.
Lol @ tape. But I cant really say anything about the hk light because I dont use it alot but, there was an app that was for rooted g1 that could controll the backlight of the keyboard. Maybe when the g2 is rooted we will have some better settings or an on off controller
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elusivebyte said:
The keyboard backlight and the backlight of the capacitive buttons is controlled by the light sensor on the phone. It my living room at the moment. The system can't decide whether the backlight should be on or off. It's really ****ing annoying. It turns on then off again about three times per sentence so far!
Why can't it just be ON when the screen is on and OFF when the screen is off? I don't even have automatic brightness on. The tiny amount of power wasted when your in bright light would be worth it.
I've also seen the keyboard backlight stay off at times when it was quite dim where I was; times when I really could have used it!
I don't understand how this sort of crappy behavior gets through HTC quality assurance testing. Don't they use the phones before just shipping them out?
EDIT: Oh, hey! Problem solved. I put a small piece of black electrical tape over the god damn light sensor. >.<
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I have that same issue (my touch buttons) go crazy when I use the device, they act like the notification light, and I noticed that about the keyboard too...
The phone has a **** light sensor overall... I can be in a dark room and the phone would be bright as shyt, conversely if I'm near a bright light, the screen doesn't get bright enough.
Hopefully these problems won't exist on my replacement unit.
It's not the sensor, it's the software. Nexus One had all the same problems until CyanogenMod fixed 'em. Boom, working auto setting, working backlight on capacitive buttons.
Stock 2.2.1 AFAIK still has the same issues.
The backlight on my keyboard stopped working the 5th day I had the phone. The light sensor does suck. I was on a call outside and the screen kept coming on. My cheek kept activating buttons on the screen while on a call. Not good. I'm 12 days into my 30 day remorse period. I'm not sure if I'm sending this one back for a replacement or just calling it a day altogether...
30 or 20 days
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The backlight on my keyboard stopped working the 5th day I had the phone. The light sensor does suck. I was on a call outside and the screen kept coming on. My cheek kept activating buttons on the screen while on a call. Not good. I'm 12 days into my 30 day remorse period. I'm not sure if I'm sending this one back for a replacement or just calling it a day altogether...
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How did you get 30 days remorse? I was told it's 20 days when buying directly from tmobile website.
Hello all I could really use some help, had a vs980 for a while now and it's been through a couple drops and a screen change before the screen change I noticed my brightness would completely die and get really dim from time to time and a good smack would bring it back then it progressively got more frequent to need a smack until finally it didn't get bright. I mean I can see the phone indoors and outside in the shade but any kind of light and sunny days it's almost impossible to see phone. I was still using it putting off screen change one day dropped the phone and damaged digitizer in a portion of the top screen no crack in screen and no damaged LCD just a portion of the top that I couldn't touch to activate apps in that area or a couple numbers I couldn't dial. Finally decided to fix the screen expecting the brightness to be fixed but the problem still persist when I move the brightness slider it doesn't change at all. Nothing it's one constant brightness and dull, I can see it indoors and in the shade outside. But in any relative brightness it appears black and can barely see anything, is there some type of separate backlight besides the LCD digitizer that needs to be repaired also? I could really use some feedback thanks in advance!!!!
Last night, I went to use my night clock app with my new LG v20. On my Note 7, the screen was totally 100% black except for the numbers.
On the v20, the entire screen was stil lit - faint, but clearly still lit up in a light light grey.
Is this just how an LCD screen works, or is there something I have to do in order to get the rest of the screen to go off.
(Note, this includes the 2nd screen which was also lit - and I had the brightness at 0%).
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BTW, this may need to be a separate thread - on my phone I notice that the auto-brightness tends to be too dark. Any way I can adjust it to be brighter when in auto mode, or should I just go to manual ?
polstein said:
Last night, I went to use my night clock app with my new LG v20. On my Note 7, the screen was totally 100% black except for the numbers.
On the v20, the entire screen was stil lit - faint, but clearly still lit up in a light light grey.
Is this just how an LCD screen works, or is there something I have to do in order to get the rest of the screen to go off.
(Note, this includes the 2nd screen which was also lit - and I had the brightness at 0%).
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BTW, this may need to be a separate thread - on my phone I notice that the auto-brightness tends to be too dark. Any way I can adjust it to be brighter when in auto mode, or should I just go to manual ?
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Try turning off second screen and see what your results are.. Second screen has a seperate black light that slightly bleeds out to the rest of the screen. It was horrible on the V10 but much improved on the 20..
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Try turning off second screen and see what your results are.. Second screen has a separate black light that slightly bleeds out to the rest of the screen. It was horrible on the V10 but much improved on the 20..
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The night clock app has the option to turn off the notification, which also turns off the 2nd screen.
...oops. It did, until I followed your suggestion in the other thread about the more setting to enable time/date when in full screen or notification bar hidden. I'll have to get into the habit of turning *off* the more setting at night.
(Either way, doesn't help with the slight gray background color. I can probably just get used to it as long as I'm not damaging the screen by having it slightly on all night. I need to google if LCD screens have burn in problems I guess.)
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polstein said:
Last night, I went to use my night clock app with my new LG v20. On my Note 7, the screen was totally 100% black except for the numbers.
On the v20, the entire screen was stil lit - faint, but clearly still lit up in a light light grey.
Is this just how an LCD screen works, or is there something I have to do in order to get the rest of the screen to go off.
(Note, this includes the 2nd screen which was also lit - and I had the brightness at 0%).
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BTW, this may need to be a separate thread - on my phone I notice that the auto-brightness tends to be too dark. Any way I can adjust it to be brighter when in auto mode, or should I just go to manual ?
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I use this on all my phones since I feel stock auto is too dim. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.velis.auto.brightness
polstein said:
The night clock app has the option to turn off the notification, which also turns off the 2nd screen.
...oops. It did, until I followed your suggestion in the other thread about the more setting to enable time/date when in full screen or notification bar hidden. I'll have to get into the habit of turning *off* the more setting at night.
(Either way, doesn't help with the slight gray background color. I can probably just get used to it as long as I'm not damaging the screen by having it slightly on all night. I need to google if LCD screens have burn in problems I guess.)
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Use comfort view on low or medium. Will help lower the ~9000K color temp some and help blacks a hair. Faint glow is typical on LCDs. Higher quality LCDs and higher quality led's can help. Lg skimped here. Sucks they didn't even give us color modes to pick from. The colors are waaay off. But using comfort view dims the blue pixels and helps considerably.
polstein said:
On the v20, the entire screen was stil lit - faint, but clearly still lit up in a light light grey.
Is this just how an LCD screen works, or is there something I have to do in order to get the rest of the screen to go off.
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That's just how LCD works, they need CCFL or LED back light to lit up the screen, it's not possible for it to be completely black while turned on. With AMOLED the individual pixels can turn off itself which is why the black are blacker on them. OLED screens also have very high refresh rates which eliminates flickering, this is good for people who are concerned with eyes health.
Lcd doesn't get burn in, but it can get ghost image retention. It was f***ing horrible by the end of my V10 usage.. Never had the problem on the G2 3 or 4. Just the V10, even after factory resetting.
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Lcd doesn't get burn in, but it can get ghost image retention. It was f***ing horrible by the end of my V10 usage.. Never had the problem on the G2 3 or 4. Just the V10, even after factory resetting.
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Had the same issue my V10, that is my biggest V20 concern. . My v10 was not even a year old.
I get the engineering and cost reasoning, but not sure I like the lcd screens.