Internet Sharing Question - Mogul, XV6800 General

I would like to start off by saying that, yes, I am paranoid as hell. Ok, so my question is this; I flashed DCD's latest rom and radio and have EVDO Rev. A and GPS working flawlessly on my 6800. However, I have the laptop tethering package from Verizon and now that I have the new rom, I cannot keep track of my data usage while tethered to my laptop. I was told that with the DCD rom Verizon cannot track my data usage because they cannot tell that my phone is tethered or just browsing from Pocket Internet Explorer. Does anyone know if this is true, and could you please explain it to this n00b? I would really appreciate it. I dont want to pay all these overages. Thanks very much in advance.

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Data Triggering?

I have not had cooked roms on my phone for more than a month (only because of ignorance) However I'm currently using colonel's gps rom for titan but I'm a alltel customer and that is a sprint rom. I haven't found any problems except for the data side. I entered in all my info as far as what the alltel people told me to, but It seems like I have to "trigger" the data service to come on in some apps. I will have to open pie or something like that to get a working network connection and sometimes that won't work it'll just say "could not connect for a unknown reason." Is there a way to make data always on? I have unlimited plan and battery is not a huge deal it is annoying when trying to use wmwifi router or a gps tracking prog I'm looking at. Any ideas?
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Restore Modem Link

Does anyone know how to get the "Modem Link" program back on a xv6800? I flashed a custom rom, but it got rid of this program. I wanted to see if I could get the program back because it connects to Verizon's Laptop Connect program which tracks data usage so that I can keep from going over my data plan allowance. Thanks to everyone in advance. BTW, I flashed the newest DCD rom.
so you are basically saying that you are concerned about going over the 5gbs of data? or do you have a smaller plan than that? either way, the app you are talking about was replaced by the (much better) "internet sharing" application. DCD's roms also take out the reg key that verizon uses to track you data usage. ie, you can use it tethered to you comp all you want and verizon cant tell whether you are using your tethering or just the internet on the phone. so get rid of the tethering package if you pay for it....
VZW reg key
which registry key is it that tracks usage on verizon?
Awwww yeah! Thanks bro, that helps out a lot. You rock!
evdo speeds
sikkboy:
have you noticed your speed tethering with ICS vs modem link has diminished? before i flashed i could hit 1.7mbps easily on speed tests, bumping up against the limit of the original evdo standard. However, post flasing and no longer using the modem link app but rather ICS instead my speed never goes above 1mbps, and this is supposed to be evdo rev.a!

P6800 as a modem for laptop? Internet sharing?

Hey guys,
I have a co-worker that has a P6800 and would like to use his data connection on his phone, to connect his laptop to the internet.
Not sure if this is possible.
I have never messed with it before.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Unless you are paying the additional fee that most providers offer for tethering, I would suggest he not do it, unless he flashes a custom rom on it, and even then I wouldn't have him use it as his primary connection. Most providers have a 1g - 5g cab, and exceeding that can cost a lot extra, or get your account canceled. So unless he is only planning to surf the web and check email, I would tell him to not do it, but if he wants to do just basic stuff that the phone can already do, then flash a custom rom and he should be fine.
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P6800 sharing internet
Not sure why he cant go somewhere where his laptop can pick up wifi, but he insisted on finding a way to use his P6800 as a "wireless modem" as one may say.
Not sure if he has an unlimited data plan.
What is the internet sharing program on the windows mobile devices?
I use WMWifirouter. It works well for exactly what your asking about.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
Whats the latest free version of this?
Yes u can use ur xv6800 as a modem for ur laptop, it cost extra for it though! I pay $45 extra a month for unlimited data on my laptop and mobile phone! I think it definitely worth it because I can use all the data I want!
240sxer said:
Whats the latest free version of this?
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I don't believe there is a "Free" version, it is a trial then you pay like $19.99 for it.... or don't.... whatever....
It is awesome though, and I suggest everyone with a PPC get this proggy
Magislayer said:
I don't believe there is a "Free" version, it is a trial then you pay like $19.99 for it.... or don't.... whatever....
It is awesome though, and I suggest everyone with a PPC get this proggy
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This is a 6800 must have one of the best programs out there and well worth the cost there is another one similar out there but it requires you to pay a monthly/yearly subscription .
I use PDAnet
http://www.junefabrics.com/pdanet/index.php
The current build is 34 bucks. IMO it was 34 bucks well spent on my part. WmWiFiRouter works awesome believe me, but its a very huge battery sapper in my experience. With PDAnet, the internet is tethered through the USB cable and the basis is the same as WMWifiRouter, phone connects to internet and shares it to the pc. I use it all the time since i'm in a dial up only area and with good signal get up to 300kb/sec on downloads and can browse multiple web pages, most image heavy, all at once.
240sxer said:
Whats the latest free version of this?
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the last ver. before it went to pay was .91 this is the one i use everyday with no problems.
using a 6800 stock to tether is ill advised. there are some reg edits that people say "hide" your tethering activity and make it look like your just surfing the net on your phone. nearly all of the good custom roms out there already do this for you. i recommend dcd, but i know there are people that just like to keep it stock and although i don't understand it, i don't hold it agenst them.
there are ALOT of people that tether with just a unlimited data plan and nothing more. if you do a search, i don't think you'll find one person who has made the rge. changes has been charged, and its been going on for YEARS. hell, i started with my old samsong a900. that being said, it's agenst the TOS and thus you should not do it, or at least relize you have to proseed at your own risk.

t-mobile US USB tethering (not wifi)

Tried getting an answer on t-mobile's forums but it seems mostly people *****ing or having no clue about anything so couldn't get a straight answer and thought someone might know here.
I heard someone say wifi tethering is fine, but if you USB tethering and use more than 100mb they charge an insane per mb fee, does anyone know if that's true?
I just would rather be able to use USB because i've noticed the wifi on it (at least with the t-mobile US rom) is horrible and has issues holding a connection often even when a foot away from the computer connecting and I also noticed while HTC's wifi router is running the phone itself has no internet access and won't download emails, etc which is very annoying, but window mobile's internet sharing tool doesn't have that issue.
I use USB tether on a daily basis, and have been for at least the past six months. I just started using the feature on my Leo, but I've been with T-Mobile for over a year now and been tethering on a MT3G and Nexus One. I'm 100% certain that I've gone waaaay over 100MB, but I have never seen any additional charges on my bill because of data usage.
Edit: Actually, after thinking about it...each Leo ROM is over 100mb soo...
great! thanks, tethering has been my biggest concern switching to t-mobile with them lacking any official tethering plan, I don't mind paying for it if they offered it and did on at&t, just so long as I can do it averaged 4gb on at&t.
now if only the radios on the stock rom weren't so bad, and I'm kind off leary on the whole rom flashing thing.
I wouldn't be too leary on flashing. I was a bit when I first did it with my first phone. But I did a lot of reading, double/tripple checking. With the HD2, I'm just giving it enough bake time so people work out any kinks in flashing first.
shiltz said:
I heard someone say wifi tethering is fine, but if you USB tethering and use more than......
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id be really interested in how they could tell the difference.
With an unlimited data plan, almost all US carriers kind of turn a blind eye to tethering (or suspected tethering) as long as you stay under the technical data cap (~3-5GB for the US carriers, I think 5GB for TMo).
I've tethered my MT3G with T-Mo for a long time, using nearly 1GB in a day as a wifi router for friends in an apartment, and heard absolutely nothing from TMo.
Thraka said:
I wouldn't be too leary on flashing. I was a bit when I first did it with my first phone. But I did a lot of reading, double/tripple checking. With the HD2, I'm just giving it enough bake time so people work out any kinks in flashing first.
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Well I did try once with my Fuze unsucessfully and worried to try it and brick my HD2 because i've found the instructions i've seen on here not very clear, like I know there was one program it said to flash before flashing rom's but it was only for certain roms and none of the roms seemed to indicate which was the proper way to flash that specific rom :/
samsamuel said:
id be really interested in how they could tell the difference.
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Well I know when I had my HTC Fuze on AT&T when I would tether the phone it showed 2 different active data connection, I belive one was called internet and one data, though I don't see that on T-mobile, just have internet so maybe they can't, just kind of want to be sure and not get some crazy bill.
I'm also not worried about a limit or being charged for it, but was hoping for faster connection speed with TMo. Averaging 800kbps 2 days after receiving my HD2, about equal to my omnia with verizon.
Havent readup on it much yet, but is the 7mbps a TMo rarity?
And I too plan on flashing a ROM, trying to wait...
Anyone have a cab to add the USB internet sharing to the menu that pops up when I connect to USB on my computer? It only shows 2 options, and on custom roms it shows internet sharing. Also has anyone found a cab to add the WIFI Router to the Sense Wireless Settings menu? Thanks
I have been tethering for almost 7 years with T-Mobile.
The OP stated 100MB may refer the original web2go thing. The truth is: you'll be upgraded to smartphone data once you go over 100MB, but it's never enforced.
To tether with HD2, you need to use internet sharing in tools sub-menu. T-Mobile Data or Internet doesn't really matter.
It's said there's a 10GB softcap and you're throttled thereafter till the next billing cycle, but I don't hear anybody (including myself) got hit yet.
You can tether, just use it sparingly. It's not your home internet replacement.
mingkee said:
I have been tethering for almost 7 years with T-Mobile.
The OP stated 100MB may refer the original web2go thing. The truth is: you'll be upgraded to smartphone data once you go over 100MB, but it's never enforced.
To tether with HD2, you need to use internet sharing in tools sub-menu. T-Mobile Data or Internet doesn't really matter.
It's said there's a 10GB softcap and you're throttled thereafter till the next billing cycle, but I don't hear anybody (including myself) got hit yet.
You can tether, just use it sparingly. It's not your home internet replacement.
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When I went into the store an got my HD2 at launch, The sales rep and I were talking about tethering...he said that he tethers all the time on his rooted Nexus and now on his demo HD2 that he was given. He said that he has never run into a problem and has never heard of any customers having an issue with billing. He said that he uses anywhere up to 3-4gigs a month and personally I have never even come close to that. As the quoted poster put it "It's not your home internet replacement" so don't use it as such...
...he did say that they know when you do it though which is a bit concerning...and if you call customer care with a problem concerning tethering, they will not assist you.
...the first rule about tethering, you don't talk about tethering...
...the first rule about tethering, you don't talk about tethering...
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lmao!
and I gotta remember my days of 14.4kbps tethering with sprint (tarred and feathered for talking about it back then) and be dang happy with 800kbps!... its stupid FIOS in our home making me think 7mbps is subpar.
I asked Customer care and they were quite helpful. I have the legacy data plan for all windows mobile phones. The plan is 19.99, but is grandfathered into the newer data plans that are going at 34.99. Now, for my plan at least, they told me I have a 10GB bandwidth limit and can use the 3G network as well as tethering is supported. I consider myself absolutely lucky with that data plan. And from what I heard, if you hit your limit, you will be dropped off the 3G network and will run on the EDGE until your limit gets resetted.
mingkee said:
You can tether, just use it sparingly. It's not your home internet replacement.
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Man, what I wouldn't give to be those guys in Philly playing with HSPA+ right not...it could easily replace my home broadband...
noellenchris said:
Also has anyone found a cab to add the WIFI Router to the Sense Wireless Settings menu? Thanks
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I don't know if this is what you were looking for but I attached the wifi router cab for you.
ddgarcia05 said:
I don't know if this is what you were looking for but I attached the wifi router cab for you.
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Thanks, but I was looking for the Manila Settings Tab - Wireless, where it shows the Wifi Sharing. It's probably cooked in some roms that I used in the past...
I did a search for HD2 tether, and came up with this thread. I don't see my question answered in it though, although I may have missed it, or somewhere else.
My question has nothing to do with whether T-Mobile allows it or not. I have tethered for years on T-Mo (with other phones), with no problem.
My question is simple and basic--How to tether on the HD2?
Since this thread is about USB tethering, my question here could simply be about how to USB tether, although I would also like to find out the best way to Bluetooth tether. (I read something about wi-fi tether in this thread, and have no idea what is meant by that.)
For USB tethering, I assume a driver is needed, for the computer to see the phone connected via USB as a modem. In fact, I probably have an HTC USB driver from previous HTC phones I had, like the MDA (and even the Audiovox SMT5600), but I don't know if there is a newer driver more suited for the HD2. Where does one get the USB modem driver for this phone?
For BT tethering, I think there are two ways-Dial-Up-Networking, and a newer way, I think ICS. I have only used DUN before. I think I might have read that the other way is better though. Is there a thread I missed, with a guide to BT tethering with the HD2?
Thank you for your input.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-hd2/help/connectivity
And it has indeed replaced my home internet. Pings suck for games, but other than that, it's completely serviceable.
The way if was explained to me by TMO folks, is you essentially have an uncapped bandwidth limit. However, once they see you hit 5gigs for the month, they will throttle you down somewhat.
As far as tethering goes, TMO is probably one of the friendliest towards it in the US. Just don't call into 611 asking for support or how to tether, they wont throw you under the bus and start billing you extra, but they just don't officially support it, you might get a rep in a good mood and willing to help though
I've been tethering for at least 6 years on TMO, started with a seirra wireless GPRS aircard then upgraded to an EDGE card. I would swap my SIM out of my phone when using the card. technically not tethering i guess, but then I got a Samsung phone that supported bluetooth and always tethered with it to my laptop and winmobile PDA

What exactly does a ported rom mean?

Hey guys, I'm new here but I have some (nooby) questions. I'm currently using an iphone to tether my laptop using web2go from t-mobile. I got a g1 from someone and of course rooted and started tinkering with it so that I could get web2go to work on the g1.
My question mainly is if I port over say another android based os, like the droid eris os that is available, does that change the way the phone interacts with t mobile? Or would t-mobile still recognize the internal imei and not care about the os and settings? I'm mainly asking if I can port over another os onto the g1 so I can tether like I currently do.
I know there will be the people who say just buy the more expensive plans, but if I could I would. I'm tethering with these phones because I can't afford real internet!
Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
Tmobile will recognize the IMEI although I have used the wireless and wifi tether's both and not had a problem on Tmo.
wait you use the 9.99 web2go? What settings do you use? Because whenever I try it has trouble "finding internet connection" or whatever. although technically the internet should still be coming through right? It's just being subverted by the g1's software that requires the higher tier services?
If its rooted, just use the wireless tether app. You can find the link here and put it on your SD card. Download Linda file manager from the market and use it to install the tether apk. From there, you will change your phones 3G or Edge signal into a wifi one that your laptop can use. You can use that on any rom, and it doesn't matter wether its droid eris or stock. The only thing that tmobile can see is your imei and your radio version, not the rom.
ok I will try this tomorrow and get back to you. Thanks for all the help
well I tried it real quick right now and I guess I forgot to make clear whats going on. When using the G1 as opposed to the iphone, the web2go subscription gets subverted. So while web2go works with a proxy on the iphone, on the G1 it does nothing.
I have the tools to tether except the G1 / T-mobile subvert the internet. I wanted to know if this was based on imei or on a software lock. Because I have heard of people using their G1's with web2go I'm assuming it's a software lock. So if I use a rom of an os that can run web2go, will I be able to use it? or will the imei lock it out?
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well I tried it real quick right now and I guess I forgot to make clear whats going on. When using the G1 as opposed to the iphone, the web2go subscription gets subverted. So while web2go works with a proxy on the iphone, on the G1 it does nothing.
I have the tools to tether except the G1 / T-mobile subvert the internet. I wanted to know if this was based on imei or on a software lock. Because I have heard of people using their G1's with web2go I'm assuming it's a software lock. So if I use a rom of an os that can run web2go, will I be able to use it? or will the imei lock it out?
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there's only really two different os versions. well, more, but two popular ones. 1.6 (donut) and 2.1 (eclair). does the g1 have a data plan? does it even have 3g? you say you just got it, so if you don't have 3g, there's nothing to tether. as for it not working - if you're rooted it will work. there's also a app on the market (for now) called easy tether. just use the free version.
edit: read top post more clearly - no. you can't tether if you don't have 3g. if you can, it's new to me.
one more edit: you can do what my friend did - take an old satellite dish, hardwire it to a router, and just connect a lot of wire clothes hangers to the satellite's receptor or.. er... thingy and steal wifi for like miles. ha ha.
The thing is web2go is a data plan that can access unlimited 3g through a proxy. T mobile wants users to use their strict g1 data plan, so any other data plans get shut off. I'm wondering if it's imei or software. If its a software lock then I can just install a different rom I'm guessing.
When I tether with the same data plan on my iphone i get edge speeds, the main reason i want to get the g1 working is so i can get the 3g speeds
Ok, then try this. Go to the tmobile.com website, sign in using your number and password (or create an account). When you get to the screen that shows you a picture of your phone, select the option right under the picture that says not my phone, then select any other 3G capable, non android device. That should put you in the clear for a few hours/days/weeks/months, or whenever they decide to check your account.
Ok I tried it but it still didn't work. I'm starting to think it might be the g1 software which is helping shut off the Internet. I'm going to install a new rom and hopefully I'll be able to set the settings for t mobile. Will keep u guys posted

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