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Dual sim KING OF DOUBLE CARD with MDA Compact

Hi there,
Some time ago I purchased a KING OF DOUBLE CARD for my MDA Compact. It seems however that this card is not functioning in my PPC.
I am using a MDA Compact with the original T-Mobile ROM. I only partly installed the cabs because I wanted to get rid of the ugly T-mobile colours.
Could someone please provide me with some help?:
1st: does anyone make use of the KING OF DOUBLE CARD
2nd: What Rom do you have
3rd: Do I have to install something in addition?
etc etc.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Best regards
Wilfried

dont know any answers, but I do have a question...how did you make it fit?
I thought it didnt fit in the HTC Magician....so I bought another and carved up my SIMs
works fine though, using Wivit SIm Status Switcher with it to switch SIMs..
you could try it, its a great app

which model did you buy? what do you mean by "carved up my SIMS"?

He probably means a ghost sim, where you cut the chips out of two sim cards and out them into the ghost sim which is normal sim size.

Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards

Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards

Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards

Double SIM work fine on my XDA mini
Hello all,
Just want to share some info, I use Almighty Bicard on my XDA mini, and it's working fine on it, just turn on your flight mode, then turn off your flight mode than you will get your second SIM.
Or you can use SIM master or SIM MAX, it can handled 8/12 SIM no. on 1 SIM card, but some time you have problem to scan your original SIM card.
Thanks, Vireman

Can you point me to the specific dual sim you use??
I bought the ghost sim and couldn't get it to work, I tried on 4 old sim cards and decided not to cut up my work sim and personal sim.
I have been looking for the other typoes which take the full sim cards.
On another note it may not work because you will need to get the T-Mobile phone unlocked to work with another companies SIM.
My work sim is o2 and would only work after the MDA was unlocked.
You can phone T-Mobile ans they will send you the code to do this for £15.

Hallo ishgrnod,
I use Almighty Bicard, You need to cut your SIM chip and put it together on Almighty Bicard. It work like a switcher, If you restart your phone it will switch to another SIM.
Mostly in my country there no phone lock from the operator, I think your problem come from this side.
Thx. Vireman

Isn't there a universal phone unlocker already on the forums?
I use this cut up dual sim in the UK:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6415916094&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
from this user:
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=slam1416&iid=6415916094&frm=284
Works fine. Just have a steady hand when you cut, measure twice, cut once
I use an O2 contract and orange PAYG. Some reports say O2 contract doesn't work. Mine does, no problems.
V

I bought a King Of Double Card for my MDA Compact. I cannot get it to fit at all.
I don't really want to chop up my SIM cards either :?
OK, UPDATE:
I got it to fit but the phone will not recognize the cards. I'm using WiViT SIM Status Switcher.
Can anyone suggest recommend a different tool ?
I'm on
ROM Version : 1.12.00 WWE
Radio : 1.12.10
ExtROM : 1.12.131 WWE

WiViT isn't likely to be the problem - it just reads the operator from your network, and the sim phone number stored in your Sim; you may not have one stored in there (I bloody didn't and thought my EVC programming was at fault). See WiViT's faq, or basically open up Sim Manager on your phone.
But, ignore wivit, just ensure you can make a telephone call with either sim. Then, switch over with STK or flight mode off/on and see if you can make a call with the other Sim. If that works, then your problem is with WiViT. If it doesn't your problem is with the sims. See my other posts on these cut up sims - basically, i think Magician doesn't put enough pressure on the back of the "mini sims", and you need to stick some paper down the back of the metal sleave.
V
PS See the thread on Magician today screens to see my Wivit type software...

Hey V, thanks for the advice...
My problem was down to the single SIM end of the Dual SIM not making contact with the connectors in the phone. I have the King Of Double Card Type, as shown in my crude mockup below. ( I dont dare take mine out to take a picture since it took me all evening to get it in right. So please excuse the picture.)
WiViT is working perfectly now, i made sure my own numbers were stored correctly as you suggested, and all is well.
The only problem is, the back of my MDAc is slightly out...but i can live with that i guess (until the MDA Pro (HTC Universal) is released)
8)

Which dual sim holder for the EXEC?

am interested in using my 2g O2 sim & my 3g O2 sim in the exec, as i have 2 separate contracts. What product would you recommend? will the XDA II ghost dual sim holder fit/work? and is the combination of 2g & 3g sims possible? Thanks

dual sim holder
just oredred an xda exec and have the same query regarding dual sim holders. i will be using orange and 3 network sim. has anyone found out if the xda2s dual sim holder is compatible with this device?? thanks in advance

How do these work then? Say I'm using one sim for voice and one for data, obviously I can't use both at the same time (or can I?). So, when I want to go online, do I press some key combo and then the handset soft resets? Can it be made to automatically redirect all calls to the other sim and then cancel diverts when I swap back?

normally 2 sim cards go into a holder and the holder has a single sim which goes into the phone. you turn phone on and ONLY ONE sim card is active the other is effectivtly off. turn phone off and on (in our case flight mode) and the SECOND sim is active and first one is off. with some software from wivit you can actually control which sim is on/off from the phone itsel without switching phone on/off and some digital holders provide that facility via STK software built into the XDA phones. that is how twin sims work, but the main question is has anyone tried this with the EXEC model just yet???
So xiasma you could use one for voice and one for data and try to remember which one is on and which is off.

just to update everyone
i took the gamble and bought a dual sim card holder designed for the II/IIi and tried it in my EXEC, and............ IT DIDNT FIT!!! hehehe
guess we'll have to wait for a dedicated EXEC dual sim holder

ishaqmir said:
just to update everyone
i took the gamble and bought a dual sim card holder designed for the II/IIi and tried it in my EXEC, and............ IT DIDNT FIT!!! hehehe
guess we'll have to wait for a dedicated EXEC dual sim holder
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I made it fit!!
I have the same dual sim card holder and in order to make it fit I removed Exec's sim card holder. You can easily remove it by pulling it carefully out. It's pretty easy. Afterwards, place the dual sim card without the sim holder and overturn it. Then place the battery over it and with little push you'll hear the "clip" sound which means that the battery is placed. Finally, place the plastic cover and voila!

nope, tried it. there is no way u can place it under the battery without causing IMMENSE pressure underneath it. will wait till they release one that can lay over the battery as opposed to under it.

ishaqmir said:
nope, tried it. there is no way u can place it under the battery without causing IMMENSE pressure underneath it. will wait till they release one that can lay over the battery as opposed to under it.
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Yes, actually a dual sim holder that could lay over the battery would be better.
However, it's not that bad as you describe. Did you REMOVE the pda's sim card holder before trying doing what I did?? This way you gain more space under the battery.

Hi all
Demon could u please tell us whether u used both 3g n 2 g sim cards with ur daul sim adapter and did u had any problems when u mixed a 2g sim with 3g sim?
Also did any body tried trimming of sims as required for NEW universal digital dual sim as shown on this website
http://www.freeyourmobile.biz/acatalog/dual_sim_cards_.html
Looking forward for more input from others as i definately need a solution to avoid carrying another mob with my Exec.
Thanx in adance
Jatt

jatt said:
Hi all
Demon could u please tell us whether u used both 3g n 2 g sim cards with ur daul sim adapter and did u had any problems when u mixed a 2g sim with 3g sim?
Also did any body tried trimming of sims as required for NEW universal digital dual sim as shown on this website
http://www.freeyourmobile.biz/acatalog/dual_sim_cards_.html
Looking forward for more input from others as i definately need a solution to avoid carrying another mob with my Exec.
Thanx in adance
Jatt
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No, I haven't tried to mix a 2g sim card with a 3g one. Ive done it only wit h 2g ones.
I have also trimmed cards but not for this specific dual card holder. I did it for another one that you had to switch off the phone and on again to change the active number and it worked pretty well.

Hi Demon
Thanx for quick reply
Whats the name of ur dual sim holder which ur using for exec and is this the one which i need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/xda-IIs-III-L...450764652QQcategoryZ43805QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And also
Do u hav to switch on and off to use the other sim card or is it the one which gives u a option to choose from sim 1 and sim2 without switching it off?
Thanx again
Jatt

jatt said:
Hi Demon
Thanx for quick reply
Whats the name of ur dual sim holder which ur using for exec and is this the one which i need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/xda-IIs-III-L...450764652QQcategoryZ43805QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And also
Do u hav to switch on and off to use the other sim card or is it the one which gives u a option to choose from sim 1 and sim2 without switching it off?
Thanx again
Jatt
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It's the one you have to switch off and on again your phone and I bought it for my XDA IIs I had before from the guy of your link.
Just bear in mind that sometimes it doesn't work on Exec. I mean that even if you switch off and on again, the sim card doesn't change and you've got to do it again. I don't know why this happens, I didn't have such problems with this dual sim card on my XDA IIs.

Did anyone manage to find a dual sim holder that works with 3G USIMs?
I could really do with one, but am struggling to find one

hi
i am awaiting delivery of 2 different type of dual sims,
one which requires the sim card to be trimmed
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....7710&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
the other will take 2 sims with out cutting sim cards
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-No-Cut-Du...ryZ43805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
also i will try a sim card reader/writer if both of above fails
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-MAGIC...ryZ27330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Have anybody tried this sim card reader/writer, they claim that it can write up to 12 sim info on one sim and u can use any one by just changing it from the options in menu
Any way will post my experience with both 3g and 2g sim cards and with their combination
But if anybody knows anything about this reader/writer please post here ..
Jatt

jatt said:
hi
i am awaiting delivery of 2 different type of dual sims,
one which requires the sim card to be trimmed
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....7710&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
the other will take 2 sims with out cutting sim cards
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-No-Cut-Du...ryZ43805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
also i will try a sim card reader/writer if both of above fails
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-MAGIC...ryZ27330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Have anybody tried this sim card reader/writer, they claim that it can write up to 12 sim info on one sim and u can use any one by just changing it from the options in menu
Any way will post my experience with both 3g and 2g sim cards and with their combination
But if anybody knows anything about this reader/writer please post here ..
Jatt
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Please let us know about your experience as soon as you try them!

jatt said:
also i will try a sim card reader/writer if both of above fails
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-MAGIC...ryZ27330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Have anybody tried this sim card reader/writer, they claim that it can write up to 12 sim info on one sim and u can use any one by just changing it from the options in menu
Any way will post my experience with both 3g and 2g sim cards and with their combination
But if anybody knows anything about this reader/writer please post here ..
Jatt
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For a start that's a fake product, so god knows how it will perform.
see here http://www.sim-max.com/?language=en...d.php&main=newspage.php&down=en_copyright.htm
I have a sim max reader and 12 in 1 card, but they only work with V1 sim cards (All I've managed to clone is a cpl of really old Orange sim cards)
All the others either just don't copy, or don't copy and feck your sim card!
Nice idea tho :roll:

Hi Hollinshead
Were u able to use them as advertised , like change to different no.s and were able to make calls with them (the old orange sim cards u copied)?
Jatt

jatt said:
Hi Hollinshead
Were u able to use them as advertised , like change to different no.s and were able to make calls with them (the old orange sim cards u copied)?
Jatt
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Yeah it works fine with the orange sim cards, its an amazing piece of kit, not cheap tho!
If only it would work with v1.2 and v2 sims it would be mint!

jatt said:
the other will take 2 sims with out cutting sim cards
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-No-Cut-Du...ryZ43805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I emailed the seller about this item.
Ebay Question said:
Question from hollinshead
Item: ** NEW (No Cut) Dual Sim Card Holder** (6452231121)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
hollinshead is a potential buyer.
Will this work with 3G USIM cards?
Thanks, David.
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And I got the following reply back :?
Ebay Responce said:
Response from d.d.isk
Item: ** NEW (No Cut) Dual Sim Card Holder** (6452231121)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
d.d.isk is the seller.
Sorry No
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hi
its still not clear whether it will work and their r issues that even if it works will it fit?
Have a look at these links which talk about dual sims for 3g phones and
O2 exec
Will get at least one of them by saturaday and will post result for a trimmed pay as u go 3g sim and later about the un cut one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/xda-IIs-III-L...451816766QQcategoryZ43805QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.irwebonline.com/acatalog/O2_XDA_Exec_Twin_Sim_Cover_-_Ghost_Dual_Sim.html
http://www.freeyourmobile.biz/acatalog/dual_sim_cards_.html
http://www.speedsafe.co.uk/category.php?id=29
and also there is lots of talk about STK function which gives u option to switch sims online, dont know whether it will work on exec?
Demon can u elaborate how did u managed to fit that dual sim holder, r u using it now and any problems
i m bit fearful about playing with sim holder
ok bye

2 Sims ?

Any one tried any kind of solution to have two sims installed ? Software / Hardware ?
Terran

Hardware
the one where you have to cut the sim out and stick it into a single SIM.
then you will have to turned on flight mode and turned it of when you want to switch
work great for me (Qtek S100, S110 and now 9100-wizard)
See ya

Has anyone tried the 'king of double card'type dual sim adapters in the Wizard. I have one in my Himalaya and I heard that there is also enough room in the Magician. Would like to know if it also fits into the Wizard (planing to buy one) because I do not like to cut my sims!

Hi bruxelles5
i couldn't understand you bruxelles5 !! would explain it ? thank you in advance

You cut the chips out from two of your existing SIMs and insert them into a special holder that a fits in your phone's SIM slot.
Each time your turn the phone on and off (or use flight mode) it switches between SIMs.
An example here http://duosim.com/.
Another type gives you an extra menu on supported phones to switch numbers without having to turn it on/off.
Note - I've never used any of these gadgets so YMMV. And cutting up your SIM risks damaging it permanently.

I use a SuperSIM card that lets me store up to 12 different sims on the one sim card. It came with a reader that lets you copy your individual sims to the computer, then copy them all to the SuperSIM. Works fine on the Wizard.

Hey mitchelo,
This supersim sounds interesting. How do you switch from one sim to another using your Wizard?

Mitchello wrote
I use a SuperSIM card that lets me store up to 12 different sims on the one sim card. It came with a reader that lets you copy your individual sims to the computer, then copy them all to the SuperSIM. Works fine on the Wizard.
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Wow! that sounds like a neat piece of kit!...
I uesd a dual sim holder and this sim switching software on my xda 2s.
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=19046
Worked pretty well, although beta version did not always pick up one of the telephone numbers. They may have fixed this in the 1.0 version.. You can download the trial and see if it works on the wizard. I have not tried it yet..
Regards
Chris

The SuperSIM has a menu that lets you choose between the 12 numbers. It appears as an icon in the programs list. Just click it and you will get the menu.
I have a Telstra and Optus SIM on my supersim.
(P.S. this message was sent from my K-JAM )

Looks like a good bit of kit. Checked the web site out and it looks like it sells for $45 plus shipping. One question though. It talks about only being comaptible with sims that have a couple of different 'formats/protocl' (for want of better words) I am cluless as to what this is for Tmobile USA and 02. Can you shed any light on if I might have a compatibility issue using it?
Many thanks!
Chris

There are some sims that this won't work with. For example I can't use vodafone sim cards with it. I did some searching online before I bought, and knew that voda wouldn't work.
As the expression goes, 'google it'

ok, many thanks, will do. Probably better than trying customer care eh

@cbrow51:
Search the internet for any Ki extractor or a software called Cardinal (can't remember the link).
Extracting the Ki from your sim is the first step you need to create a backup. As of today we are able to extract that value from Comp128V1 cards only. SuperSim and similars are able to emulate these type of cards.
So, give that software a try. If it is able to extract the Ki, feel free to purchase the supersim or whatever.
Save your money for a dinner with your partner, if the software fails.
I hope it does help.
Silver.

You have to have a SIM reader that comes with the SuperSIM to check the Ki. Just google your service provider with something like "{your carrier} supersim". Worked for me.

Almost true, mitchello...
My dearest old smart mouse did his job seamlessly.
Furthermore some of the tools I am talking about are free.
When I was working for another company, I used to carry two mobiles with me. Until I found SIMEMU (still largely available for free on the net) coupled with a set of completely free tools that allowed me to backup my two SIMs into just one.
Search the net for SIMEMU... you'll see that the SuperSIM guy has reinvented the weel... getting payed for his efforts !
C'ya mate.

hi there. where did you buy this super sim and how would i find its compatability with uk network sim cards
cheers

I got mine on eBay. Ask the seller about compatibility, or look on Google.

hi there. thanks for the prompt reply. do you remember who the seller was on ebay. help much appreciated. cheers.

I got mine from a seller called "memoryku". He has several auctions like this one atm:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUPER-DUAL-M...832609382QQcategoryZ10364QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

These only work with comp128 - v1 cards.
UK cards are not this so it won't work

Dual SIM for Wizard ?

Anyone have an idea on dual SIM on Wizard ?

xdawiz said:
Anyone have an idea on dual SIM on Wizard ?
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I too would like this info. I travel a lot and my company gives me a prepaid sim when I am traveling for them.
Later.......

There is already a thread on this, use the search to find it. basically you have two options: The one where you cut your sims (try not to destroy them, with me this method did not work because the dual sim adapter was dead) or the one where you put your sims into a dual sim adapter. the last method leaves a large bump on the back of the device and causes the battery cover to bulge. I tried it, but the bulge is too ugly for me and the chances are that the cover breaks. use search to find more info on this subject.

xdawiz said:
Anyone have an idea on dual SIM on Wizard ?
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http://www.vavolo.com/productdetails.asp,ProductID,2687,,.htm
Worked for me in my Motorola Razr V3 but was troublesome in the Cingular 8125. I haven't tested it since I upgraded my OS on the 8125. But will do that soon.

the vavolo (sim clone) wont work in many countries due to the type of sim.
See my postings in the other thread 9use search0 for the solution that works for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=258487

Dual sim card settings/ solution

Hello all,
I've ran into some troubles with my device, since I have it running with a unlimited data transfer flatrate, that sim is blocked for incomming and outgoing phonecalls.
Solution on this trouble should be one of the dual sim adapters, which leads me to another problem. Since it seems to be impossible on my HTC Uni to have two simultaneous active cards running, the data one would be the usual active one for my needs.
But how to get the device automatically activating that sim, while its sleeping on an incomming phone call? Preferably without any costs on the data sim and extra costs on the phone sim either for me nor for the calling party.
Call deflection an possible option?
Since its probably a common issue im ashamed that I couldnt find any solution. Would be nice if I could still get some reply.
Thanks in advance,
Real.
Also have a look on this thread please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392396

You can take a look at this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=256442
Actually, I don't recall any dual SIM adaptor allowing 2 SIMs online at the same time. Looks like you need a phone able to handle that specific feature.
Your phone is able to handle 2 different lines at the same time ... but on the same SIM card. Some Operators used to provide this type of plan. A plan, 2 different numbers ... But same Operator !
I've heard that ETEN will release a Dual SIM PDAPhone (DX900) : http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Eten-DX900-is-dual-SIM-smartphone-article-a_2805.html
Anyway, I've been looking for the answer ... But, nothing yet.

Here is a workaround
Dual SIM WM Phone.
http://www.totobay.com/hkc-g1000-du...and-bluetooth-function-p6073.html#description

frav said:
Here is a workaround
Dual SIM WM Phone.
http://www.totobay.com/hkc-g1000-du...and-bluetooth-function-p6073.html#description
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here's my review
http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2008/04/hkc-g1000-dual-sim-wm6.html

Universal
As first thanks for the replys!
frav said:
(...) Your phone is able to handle 2 different lines at the same time ... but on the same SIM card. (...)
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This really sounds interesting, since I've got both of my most frequently used sims at the same provider. (Telefone/- and Dataflat)
Maybe my provider is willing to attach them both sims into one, or else theres still the chance of "doing by self". Another point is that those contracts dont have such a long lifetime anymore, so most likely this will be pretty mutch possible.
Sounds way better than buying a new phone, with the possibility of using two sim cards simultaneously.
Only one thing troubles me, since I've wrote about the HTC Adv beeing the mentioned device while it is Universal. Does that one have that feature aswell? I hope and pray, since this seems to be my last chance of having it more user friendly.
Any reply mutch obliged,
Real.