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Help, no GPS!

Having updated the ROM via HTC's website ( version 1.23.405.103 ) on my P3600 and installing Trinityhacks, I still cannot get the GPS icon to appear ( let alone the GPS itself) in the SETTINGS;SYSTEM menu, it only began to appear in the CONNECTIONS menu after i installed Trinityhacks.
I have 2 GPS programs (one of which is TOMTOM) which are installed and working perfectly, the only problem is that the GPS is not, and i can't figure out why! Please help,
Thanks

You don't need the GPS Setting CPL unless you want to change the default settings, which for most apps shouldn't be necessary.
Make sure in TomTom, you set the GPS prefs to Built-IN GPS Receiver (if you are on V6.03) or Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NMEA Bluetooth Receiver) if you use any earlier version.
COM port must be set to COM9 and Baud to 57600.
Once those are set, the GPS screen within TomTom should show a small revolving icon in the upper right part of the screen. Within about 30 seconds, the main screen should change from No GPS Device, to Waiting for a valid Signal. At that point you need to go outside with a clear view of the sky for a 1st fix.
If you continue to get the No GPS Device message, it suggests either the ROM didn't update properly, or there is a hardware fault.

Thank you for your help, It now all works after a hard reset, and have been playing with the GPS ever since. Great fun.

The icon is no problem and it not being there wont affect you much,
If you do want it, the easiest way to display it without modifying the resistry is to install an tweaking application like ' Trinity Hacks v2'. this is an excellant wee application that lets you easily make all kinds of settign adjustments without going into the registry.
If you do a search on the trinity forums its easy to find.
Good Luck!!

I can't figure GPS out.

Hi,
I own a GlobalSat BT328 (http://www.buygpsnow.com/GlobalSat-...-Performance-Bluetooth-GPS-(BT-328)__916.aspx)
I turned bluetooth on, made my 8525 able to discover other devices, I made a partnership with the BT-GPS-335A64 (no idea why it has a different name here), I then opened a new COM port called BT-GPS-335A64 (COM0).
I have my bluetooth device on, and I loaded up google maps. I tried to track my location..I don't need a fancy GPS device. I just need to be able to see where I am on a map.
Google Maps is not able to find my GPS reciever. How is this? My 8525 found it. I have no other way to even test if the GPS works or not. I don't want to spend money on a tomtom or anything. I just want to track my location and google maps sounded like a good idea.
Any suggestions? This bluetooth device is supposed to work with the 8525. It found it, but not sure why google maps can not.
Thanks =)

Change the com port to com4

I did that but Google Maps is still unable to find the GPS reciever even though I have them right next to each other. It is strange because my 8525 was able to locate the GPS when I partnered them in the settings and all.
Any other reasons why this might not work?

If you've never gotten a fix with that GPS unit before, it could take 10 minutes or more for it to determine its current location. Make sure you are in a clear area, and give it a good 10 minutes to make sure it has a fix before giving up on it. Also, you might try downloading a program called VisualGPSce, which shows the current satallite status and signal information, and you'll be able to watch it as it works on getting the fix.
HTH
Brian.

I downloaded that program. It says "Fix not available". I'm going to let it run and see what happens. I am trying this inside my dorm room, but I'll try it on the road tomorrow. I just hope I can get it to work.
If nothing shows up after 10 minutes then what should I do? Is it possible the GPS device is no good? I'm not asking for a lot out of it. I just want to see my location in case I get lost somewhere.
..I waited about 10 minutes and my GPS auto shut off. The 8525 never found a fix with that program.
Edit: I searched and people have got that device to work with the 8125 before, but I haven't seen anything about the 8525. I want it to work so bad.

I picked up a Bluetooth GPS unit for £18. It's a 44 channel unit and does a cold boot in 20 seconds, warm boot in 4 seconds, and a hot boot in 1 second. Lasts for like 3 months on standby and 20 hours when in use. I've even had it working when it's been sat in the passenger footwell and inside a house (by the window)
All in all a great little unit.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FASTEST-44-Ch...yZ156955QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I have the garmin mobile XT unit. it works great with the garmin software that came with it. what i have noticed, but haven't tested, is that it cannot pair with both google maps and the garmin software. this doesnt seem to effect you however.
i must say that i was able to ONCE and only ONCE out of many attempts get the GPS unit to come up on google maps. so it can be done, dont give up. it was neat to put it in satellite mode and see where i was. i agree it should be a lot simpler to do this, i think it was truly dumb luck the one time i was able to do it because each time i go back to try again it is not working. most GPS will pick up signal from a window, so its probably not that.
not sure if this is WM6 only, but in my setting>connection>external GPS there are a few options to tinker with.
GPS program port
GPS hardware port
and then the manage GPS automatically option
i feel like the first time i did get it to work, i never went into this menu. however the second time i tried, it gave me a message saying that the program and hardware ports could not be the same. then the third time i tried, it let them be the same, but still didn't work.
so unfortunately all i have to offer are a few tips to try and look at. i dont know enough about it to tell you what will make it work.
if you do get it to work please post back and let us know! i would love to be able to let my nav software run in the background and dictate for me which turns to make while i watch the world around me whiz by via satellite view =]

lsatblu said:
I downloaded that program. It says "Fix not available". I'm going to let it run and see what happens. I am trying this inside my dorm room, but I'll try it on the road tomorrow. I just hope I can get it to work.
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Inside your dorm room? At least tell me it is sitting on a window sill or somewhere that it can actually see the sky? If not, I'm not surprised it isn't working. For the first fix, take it outside where it can see as much of the sky as possible.
Brian.

EkS said:
Change the com port to com4
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I set it to com port 4 and then had to go into the bluetooth settings and create a new com port and called it com port 4 and bingo everything started working.
Google Maps locates the GPS and position
TomTom found everything instantly when I set my GPS up in TomTom under com port 4.
Even WiFiFoFum is tracking everything perfectly.
I bought a JRT-29 for $61 it was one heck of a good deal. 42ch, Bluetooth reciever, included a car charger and usb cable. http://www.gpswindow.com/en/picture.asp?idtype=JRT28 (sorry the website sucks and I can't find the ebay auction that I bought it from)

My experience is that most of the GPS software is not designed to work with Com0... So, glad to hear change to Port 4 solve the problem.

Strange..I went near the window and the program GPSInfo (http://www.usglobalsat.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=25) went crazy showing me numbers and stuff. This was with COM4: 4800. All of the weird numbers stop when I turn my GPS unit off..but it still says no fix on that program.
Google Maps is still unable to track my location when I put it to find my settings or when I put it to COM4 4800..
VisualGPSec was unable to find a fix too.
So still no luck yet..

I got my Garmin gps10 working on my 8525 running WM6 today and thought I would share what I found.
Step 1: Pair the 2 devices (noticed with my Garmin I have to go in and refresh the services every time I turn the GPS unit on and off)
Step 2: Set your GPS outbound com port (I used 4 thanks to the help of this post)
Step 3: WM6 options Start>Settings>Connections>External GPS
Program Tab setting "com 5" or any other free one. VisualGPSce showed my other com ports used (1: Serial IR, 3: IrComm, 6: Serial, 7: Serial_BTUR)
Program Tab settings "com 4 4800" Or whatever you set your BT com port to and baud rate your device uses
Access Tab "check Manage GPS automatically"
Step 4: Set Google maps tracking to use WM6 settings
Step 5: Checked the "Track Location"
One other thing I noticed while using VisualGPSce I could not choose com 4 I had to use SER04: and instantly got connection to my Garmin.

GPS satellite detection

Hi, I've got TomTom Navigator 6 installed on my Trinity and it all works fine, except it takes about 5 minutes before it picks up any satellites when I run it - does anybody know if there's a fix to enable to gps chip to pick up satellites a bit quicker than this? Even when I'm outside and away from tall buildings it's the same. Any help or suggestions would be great.
Thanks

Seagee
Did u try that software?

keep QuickGPS updated.
tjw2007 said:
Hi, I've got TomTom Navigator 6 installed on my Trinity and it all works fine, except it takes about 5 minutes before it picks up any satellites when I run it - does anybody know if there's a fix to enable to gps chip to pick up satellites a bit quicker than this? Even when I'm outside and away from tall buildings it's the same. Any help or suggestions would be great.
Thanks
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it will save a couple of minutes

aquiring a satellite regardless of whether you're using an internal gps antenna or an external bluetooth antenna usually takes a few minutes when you are booting it cold (ie.. turning it on initally) There really isnt any way around this that I know

Aaron McCarthy said:
gps antenna or an external bluetooth antenna
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Try your GPS antenna with an other software or with a GPS diagnostic.
I am 99% sure your GPS antenna does not work properly or at least try your tom tom with an other antenna.
Info : GPS antenna have to connect with 3 or more satellite to determine the position.

Gps trouble

hi guys
just bought the p3470, and already in trouble =)
i tried the tom tom and first it said that there wasn't any gps device available, now it just says that is waiting for a valid gps signal... forever and nothing...
i have a tom tom one in the car and sometimes this happens but not this long and eventually it works, this one doesn't...
Any thoughts?
I appreciate the help.
Thanks
Nuno

internal GPS of our Pharos is really slow : you must wait more than 10 minutes before having a valid GPS signal.

not on mine .. i dont get a gps fix in my house (only if look for a good spot) but its a question of finding the right settngs. or have it automanaged (ive read on orange roms gps is on com9 ...on my rom its on com4 at 4800 baud)

Here's what worked for me.
Download a free GPS program like visualGPSce. Then turn off the External GPS management in settings, and go outside for a nice walk or whatever.
Then, start up visualGPS and walk through the ports until you find something that works (doesn't complain about no communication). In my case it was COM3. I've seen other reports of COM 4, 2, and 9.
Visual GPS will complain right away if there's nothing on the port so you won't waste too much time. Once you find something, turn the microsoft External GPS management back on (I used COM 5 as the software port) and wait. You might also want to install QuickGPS so that it will find satellites faster.
I had to wait ten minutes outside under full sky for it to work, but that was the longest I ever had to wait. Visual GPS has lots of nice bar indicators and the like so you have something to look at while you wonder if your GPS is screwed.
If that doesn't work, you may be in trouble. Go through all the ports again and be patient if it says it can't lock on to satellites.
It now takes me about 1 minute to get lock on (assuming QuickGPS is up to date). It's a little laggy when driving but reasonably useful.

Tomtom7 GPS Fix + Google maps

Hey guys, I have always had issues with tomtom getting a sat fix for the longest while. A couple weeks ago when I was messing with tomtom i was like screw this and went to google maps and enabled the use gps feature and got a fix. I then went back to tomtom and my sats came up in 3 seconds or so. Now my question is ... is it a coincidence that my tomtom getting gps fix quickly whenever i use google maps to get a sat. Or is it some kind of internal gps storage thingy ... not sure what I am trying to say.
But still guys with the xperia who been having issues try getting a fix with tomtom and see how long it takes. Close tomtom and use google maps to get a gps location and after u do get yourself on gps, close google maps and go back to tomtom.
Let me know what you get, everytime I tried this it worked for me ... not sure why or what is going on. But tomtom7 takes forever to load up with the x1 compared to google maps.

I just posted on another thread that I think there is an issue with gps on x1. Mine was working super fast on both satnav and google maps and then just stopped working at all. I now have the same problem as another poster that my x1 will not get a lock at all so sending it back for replacement on advice from sonyericsson support.

load up google maps and get a fix then close google maps then load tomtom and see if u get anything then. That works for me.

No. Afraid even google maps doesnt get a lock at all. Tried pairing the phone with a bluetooth gps receiver and all software works perfectly and fast so definately a hardware problem on the phone sadly.

it might be nothing but...
i had a problem with tomtom:
gps nav was working (selected internal gps antenna) but screen was grey, i could see my movement but no calculations.
gps was working in google maps.
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Problem was: i disabled my phone in comms manager
off: aircraft mode
off: phone
on: bluetooth
on: wifi
tomtom says i'm in aircraft mode, and doesnt show collors, calculations or routes (actually it does show routes but doesnt update it when i change it).