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Case Round-Up

I decided to round up all of the cases for the HTC Universal for reference:
Piel Frama (1 case... also available on Expansys as the "Chairmans Case")
- http://www.pielframa.com/imate_jasjar.htm
PDair (2 cases, both with belt clips)
- http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7749.htm
- http://www.pdair.com/scripts/main/viewitem.php?itemid=1998&pdaid=190
XaX (2 cases)
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125516
- http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=125869
- Nutshell
http://www.tuff-as-nuts.com/209-210.html#
I have ordered the XaX cases with the intention of sending one back... I will post a full analysis with lots of pics.... it's sad that there are not a lot of pics around of these two !

BTW, here's a nice review of the Proporta case...
http://www.clieuk.co.uk/execbookcase.htm

Thanks for the summary - very useful indeed. I'm looking for something like the Piel Frama or Xax (2) case but the keyboard must NOT be covered - which I believe it is with both of these, although it is hard to tell from the photos.

I have found another case by Krusell which looks quite good:
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?s=2&product=2095
Sold here:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=127398&asource=119353
Anyone got one?

Mods:
Should this be in accessories ?
Sorry...

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Wow... the Krusell one looks pretty good !
Hole for ear... belt clip... window for screen... Hmmmmm.... !
The only thing its missing is elastic stretchy sides to block the SD card from falling out while still being able to open the case.

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i like the krussel or the xax #1.
am interested in feedback on the xax, as I really just want something simple to make the carrying of it easier. if I need it, i just want to take it out of the case entirely, then when finished put it back. most cases are designed to keep it inside the case. i think the clam design prevents the need for a protective permanent case, so something to make it easier to carry it would be handy.
But yes, the krussel looks good if I felt it needed protection...
So any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good, and if any body does by the krussel, let us know.

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...any feedback on the Xax 1 would be good...
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I've had the XAX 1 for about a week now and it's just what I was looking for. Like you, Simon, I was also interested in just something to carry the Universal as I prefer to take it out completely to use it. The XAX 1 certainly does the job.
The magnetic closures make it very easy to take it out of the case and put it away. The fit is not too tight to make it difficult to remove and replace but tight enough to feel secure. It's not going anywhere. And it may seem a small thing, but I also like that the magnets make the removal and replacement of the Universal into a silent operation without zipping or velcro or snaps to announce what you're doing. It's not a big deal, but it was a nice little bonus.
The concern I had with this case was the belt clip since it is an actual clip and not anything that locks in place. My previous "belt" cases with other PDAs had the locking type clips. This one just hooks on to the belt, but it feels very secure. There seems to be no question of it slipping off of a belt and I've even used it just hooked on to jeans (without them falling down, despite the Universal's weight!) when not wearing a belt. I can see where there is more of a chance that it could come unhooked when just on jeans like that, but I haven't had that happen yet.
One advantage to the locking clips was the ability to allow the case to swivel which this one does not have. After using it though, I like the horizontal orientation and now prefer that it doesn't swivel actually. I don't have to take the case off or swivel it around every time I sit down.
I'm planning to eventually get the PDAir (most likely) for times when I want the Universal protected even while in use, but I would only use that in certain environments where I was worried that it might get damaged if taken out completely. Most of the time I plan to use the Xax.

I am not sure I get how the Xax 1 works.
Is it like a holtster, where you just slide the JasJar in?
What is the magnetic closure for, is that a tab that closes over the top opening?
How are the sides protected?
Care to post some pictures?

I'm at work, so I can't post any pictures right now (they probably wouldn't be all that happy that I was positng in the first place, but hey, it's lunch!)
It is like a holster and the JJ just slides in. As you suspected there is a leather tab that goes over the top to help protect and hold it in (though the fit is tight enough that I don't think holding the JJ in is really all that necessary.) It doesn't go completely across the top, but leaves room on one end so that you can use the headphone jack while it's in the case (as long as you put the JJ in it with the camera facing out.) Beyond that, the top is protected. There is leather on both sides, so they are protected as well. On the bottom, there's a large cut out in the middle that allows you to push up on the JJ to take it out more easily as well as two other small cut outs for the speakers.
I'll try to see if I can get some pics together later tonight.

Hi everyone,
I got the XaX #2 case today (the magnetic snap one, NOT the belt clip) and well... it's not that great.
First of all, the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside... the leather strip that holds down the keyboard gets in the way of the screen. I've tried a bunch of different positions, and no dice.
Also, the camera hole is uncovered, but the earpiece is not so you can't use the phone when the case is closed.
The magnetic snap is nice and strong though, and the leather is of good quality.
However, in terms of functionality, it's not that great. I'll post pics later.

ikaris said:
...the Jasjar won't fully close when it's inside...
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So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.

Same here. I am interested in the Piel Frama case or the Krusell. Both look pretty nice and seem to have the proper cut outs for all buttons and such. Just wondering which one seems to fit the device better.

I am currently using the case that came with the iPaq 5500 series. This fits the XDA Exec perfectly and is ideal if you want to use the case for storing the Exec and taking it out of the case for use.
Simon

kelford said:
So I guess XaX may have a hit and a miss with their two cases. Thanks for passing that along because I think that is a concern.
I've wondered if the Piel Frama case will have the same "closing" issue. In some of the pictures on their website it looked like the JJ may not have been all the way closed. I had one of their cases for a Dell Axim 5 and it was of very high quality but the "closing" question concerns me.
I'd love to hear from anyone who gets a Piel Frama.
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I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.

simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.

simba said:
I have received my Pielframa case a couple of days ago. The Pielframa does not have a closing issue. Also it fits perfectly. Besides that it does not use a plastic 'pouch'. That is terrible. I owned a Qtek 9090 which the case also had a plastic 'pouch' to cover the keyboard. It is a dust collector. My keyboard got very dirty and I could not get the stain away. Luckily Pielframa did not use this design.
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Thanks for giving an update! That's good news that the Piel Frama doesn't have the closing issues that was found with the XaX 2 case. I know how well PF cases are made, so I may have to get one of these (or at least put it on a gift wish list!) since I find I like to use different cases depending on circumstances.
How does it feel in terms of added bulk? It seems designed to be on the device most if not all of the time, so I wondered how it really feels when used every day?

Take a look at this one: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/7866.htm
seems reasonalbly priced
One thing though..........
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first pic you see is the belt clip side
click the next pic and where you would expect to see the closing flap thingy, you see a plain flat side!?!?
Am I missing something?

Codiac said:
Am I missing something?
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I don't understand that either. Where did the flap go?
I'm supposed to be getting pictures together (having regular PC issues at home) so I can show the XaX 1 in use, but the general construction looks similar to the one in the link, but the XaX has a bigger flap. And it doesn't hide anywhere either!

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Just want to confirm 100% before ordering the Pielframa case - you are saying that the keyboard is NOT covered by any plastic? It isn't clear from the photo. Thanks.
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Yes, it is not covered by any plastic.
The case does make it feel more 'bulky'. In the daily usage you could leave the it in case without the need of taking it out. I can answer the phone by not having to open the case. Of course you do need to open it to be able to make a phone call.

Kaiser cases

Since this is so new, it seems there are not many cases out there yet. The really neat ones are for the 8525, suppliers like: Krusell,seidio,beyza are not up to speed yet, or Am I wrong? Any one have any ideas on when there maybe releases?

I honestly love the one that came with the Kaiser. However, I heard that cases with magnetic flaps cause the Kaiser to automatically turn on since there is a magnetic connection to the slider keyboard. I'm not too familiar with this issue, but did read this somewhere.

I don't love the sideways case with velcro and non-springloaded belt hook, currently using a leather magnet flap case for a generic flip. Mine does not turn the phone On, depends on where the magnets are located as ones that are close to the keyboard's "open sensor" can turn the phone On. I'm rooting for Pocket Solutions to make one.
I'm watching the "Kaiser Accessories" area for the mose current info... as should you.

I put my Kaiser on my jeans' pocket with no cases (except screen protector).

gogol said:
I put my Kaiser on my jeans' pocket with no cases (except screen protector).
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You`re braver than me

Well, it should be fine inside the pocket, and the jeans is thick enough to protect the Kaiser and soft enough to not scratch the surface.
The only downside is dirt inside the pocket, but like I said, I always wipe it out clean (usually in the screen area). It will be the same in the case, screen get dirt.
My wife quite jealous the way I treat my Kaiser Because I will wipe clean the table, take a clean paper or tissue and put it like a carpet before I put my Kaiser ...
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gogol said:
Well, it should be fine inside the pocket, and the jeans is thick enough to protect the Kaiser and soft enough to not scratch the surface.
The only downside is dirt inside the pocket, but like I said, I always wipe it out clean (usually in the screen area). It will be the same in the case, screen get dirt.
My wife quite jealous the way I treat my Kaiser Because I will wipe clean the table, take a clean paper or tissue and put it like a carpet before I put my Kaiser ...
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Yeah, i treat my Kaiser better than my wife

Krussel will release the ORBIT case for the TyTN II during October.

PDAir have just released a couple of Kaiser cases, and there are a few similar cases on eBay. Piel Frama have told me they'll have one in the next month or so.
4ustuff is a Hong-Kong based wholesaler that has a lot of Kaiser stuff, some of which may make its way into the retail channel.

on the Pocket Solutions website they're offering a fullbody "SkinGuardz" for the Tytn II...only problem is it's not in stock...i prefer a solution like this vs. a case (although one drop on the ground might force me to change my mind).

I used a slightly altered PDAir case for the Hermes (i cut all the clear plastic off over the keyboard and used Velcro to attach the phone to the case - worked really well. But with the Kaiser I`m leaning more toward the pouch type case, or perhaps a thin silicone case, but Ive not seen one of those yet.

Just Wireless Case
I bought a case at Staples yesterday from a company called Just Wireless. It is for a Blackberry/ Treo 750, but the TyTN II fit's in it perfectly. It is a holster type and it has a slim belt clip. You can probably find them at Walmart, Target, and others like that as the case retails for about $18.00. (picture taken with my TyTN II attached)
It may not be the best case, but it does the job for someone like me who is on traveling all the time and needs quick access.
James

jamesjsenecal said:
I bought a case at Staples yesterday from a company called Just Wireless. It is for a Blackberry/ Treo 750, but the TyTN II fit's in it perfectly. It is a holster type and it has a slim belt clip. You can probably find them at Walmart, Target, and others like that as the case retails for about $18.00. (picture taken with my TyTN II attached)
It may not be the best case, but it does the job for someone like me who is on traveling all the time and needs quick access.
James
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Another option is this camera case -- I picked one up at my local Fry's a couple weeks back for $6.99. I see they've lowered the online price to below $5 -- that's going to be hard to beat.

i am a huge fan of gizmoskin.com if you read reviews on the cases you will see they use a very high grade leather. looks amazing and holds up like a champ. i have not seen their equal except for very very expensive designer cases. have been using their cases for he last 3 years
i asked them about a kaiser case and they said thy would look into it. if you want a nice case shoot them an email and say your interested.

I would love this one! (Cause I'm paranoid and had a Metal one for my Wizard...) but I can't seem to find anyone that carries them...
http://4ustuff.com/info.php?itno=2039
//Nik

How is the case that comes with the Kaiser
I hope the one that comes with the Tilt is the same

As far as free cases go the one that comes with the Kaiser is excellent, very soft. I am waiting on a holster because I don't like taking the phone out the case while driving.

I use the holster I had for my old 8525. It fits my new TyTN ll perfectly.

w4rmk said:
As far as free cases go the one that comes with the Kaiser is excellent, very soft. I am waiting on a holster because I don't like taking the phone out the case while driving.
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Cool, I will order one from mobileplanet

Krusell
m0bov said:
Krussel will release the ORBIT case for the TyTN II during October.
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In my opinion Krusell make quality cases which are practical. I bought one for my Vaio I. recently the clip broke, due to rushing through a doorway and having the phone yanked off the clip.
Krusell said send it back with proof of purchase and they will replace beacuse it comes with A LIFETIME gurantee.
Max

Another case thread...Slimmest Kaiser Case?

Well there seems to be a lot of views about the best cases out there, just wondered what the most 'pocket friendly' case was?
Don't care about the material as long as it isn't a sock or a stick-on option (ie an actual case)
Definitely no belt loop, preferably a very low profile clasp etc...
Basically just want something that is likely to stop it getting scratched up in a bag or if it was dropped, but don't need full armour!
Any good suggestions?

I've been looking for something pocket friendly as well... I'm almost ready to just get a thin sunglass pouch... currently I'm using a case for a Sprint Mogul, but it has a belt clip...

i use an ipod slip case, and have pulled off the belt clip, gives good protection to the screen,
going to order a leater slip case from www.pdair.com to see what thats like

I've got one of these - http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000164&products_id=6561
Doesn't add much to the size at all, and I keep mine in my pocket all the time.

Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm

I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

SpeedRazr said:
I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone

scharnet said:
Here is what I'm using, it comes in Black, Brown or Pink:
http://www.wirelessground.com/tiltflipblack.html
It covers the back and front very well, the cut outs are aligned very well, it has a slimmer form factor than the Krussel Orbit I normally use.
Here is the one my spouse uses, it comes in Black or White:
http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlsleeve/at_t-tilt-designio-leather-sleeve_2906.htm
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The "tiltflipblack" is made by PDair and is available for 1/2 that price. I've had one for several weeks and it still looks new, and I wear it every day. It's the perfect case for me.

The slimest most "pocketable" case I've found yet, is the formfitting Noreve case as seen here:
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/archive/00006945.htm
It is also one of the very few - true - formfitting cases (using a laminated leather design, w/o the ugly and disturbing plasting cover over the KB. It protects the front and back really well, if not so much the sides. Easy to use and good workmanship.
Actually it IS meant (IMO) for pocket carrying.
Have it for about a month, still looks as new. If however looking for a drawback, then to my daily use pattern there is one. While in the case using the Kaiser/Tilt for navigation (in a cradle) needs taking it out of the case.
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Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Just wanted to add my comments based on owning 4 different cases for the Tilt/Kaiser ...
The PDAir aluminum cased is good and pocketable. It is a little on the heavy side, but I've carried it arond now for a couple of weeks and it's all right. The downside is that there is a hard plastic protector over the touchscreen of the Tilt. You have to open the case to use the touchscreen or you have to take the hard plastic out. You can either cut out or push it out with some force, but the plastic is glued in and is under the neoprene that cushions the Tilt against the case. Not the smallest feel in the pocket, but no leather covered cardboard bulk feel. The size of this reminds me of a naked 8125 in my pocket (did that without disaster for almost 2 years).
I also tried the PDAir leather flip case. That one is definitely not pocketable unless you have some REALLY big pockets. And I'm not a big flip cover guy. Another strike is the plastic keyboard cover.
I also tried the Noreve and it's a nice leather case. I would consider this one pocketable, it's rather slim. But it has the flip cover. The good thing is that it has no plastic keyboard cover. It's a little loose when you close the cover with the snap. It's not loosely held in ... that's a good fit. But the snap doesn't hold the flip cover down as firmly as I'd like.
Lastly, I JUST snapped on one of the plastic snap-on kind. Good fit, but not sure how much the plastic will help in a fall. It snapped on tightly ... so tightly it took 15 minutes to get it off! I did not like that at all. If something goes wrong and you need to drop the battery quickly ... 'quickly' won't happen with this case. You can still use the touchscreen and it's a very tight snap on fit. Doesn't add much bulk or weight for pocket storage. NOTE: if you pick one of these up, be careful and check whether the belt clip button on the case is screw on or permanent. The permanent ones won't be pocketable.
The best feel in the pocket is the plane Tilt/Kaiser with no case. But I know I'm pushing my luck if I continue to do that. Still switching up to see what I end up liking most. Hope this info helps folks.

Tothotspur said:
i would be interested in your opinions and if you could confirm these points for me:
1) Can you still use the touch screen?
YES!
The openings for the keypad and LCD are tappered to provide the best access to the edges but they become alittle harder to get at due to the thickness of the plastic.
2) If the slide up and tilt works fine with the case on
Yes the screen slides out and up to the normal position. The upper softkeys are silightly harder to get at when tilted due to the tickness of the plastic.
3) The general quality and how bulky it is in a pocket
Fit was tight, and snapped into place. I do not plan to use the clip as it is optional, but I will follow up with a proper review and test it out. I will get exact mesuraments later but it is not a big change and well worth the extra size.
this looks perfect for me as i wanted a 2 piece armour case where i could still slide open the phone
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Yup! Cheap Too!
I will follow up with a better review tonight.

What I do not understand about using the transparent plastic snap, is why the hack would one need a case at all when all the really "pocket sensitive" components (Touch screen, Camera lens) are not covered at all... IMO if one is indiferent to this, they may not need a case at all.
I guess that all cases are kind of trade offs. Whatever protects adds bulk in the zones protected, light protection protects less than heavy armor but presents snappier use and so on.
The potentially best solution I've seen yet is actually not offered for the Tilt/Kaiser. It is made by EB Cases and called the eNovo. It is made of sturdy yet thin laminated leather, offering a form fitting case with an optional leather flip.
http://www.ebcases.com/-strse-3333/eNOVO-PAQ-6500/Detail.bok
I'm trying for some time to convince EB, Noreve and BoxWave (the ones apparently having the technology) to think about it...
Cheers,
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Saar

thanks kahibbi and SpeedRazr for your input, i look forward to your review

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I just ordered one of these yesterday. I will let you know how it is hopefully tomarrow or over the weekend.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smoke-Protector...ryZ15036QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I picked this up from DayDeal.com and it didnt' fit my ATT tilt. the back does but the front will not stay on
i picked up the alum. case for travel and biking it is perfect. also from DayDeal

NoreveUSA 15% off coupon

http://www.noreveusa.com/
http://www.noreveusa.com/category/S...0_-_HTC_Touch_Pro_Tradition_leather_case.html
Code: Holiday08
Exp: 12/31/08
I have the case and I love it. I'm thinking of using the code for the new metal clip.

looks nice. but kinda pricey for a lether case =T

Yea, it looks really nice.
I wonder how stable it is in the case once it slides open.

The leather case looks sweet....but does it work ok with the slider?
Anyone use it?

I use it and love it. The phone is totally secure inside even when using the slider.

The case holds the phone quite snug even in the open position.
The new belt clip is so much better than the one they used just a year ago.
The warranty on the case is lifetime, my kaiser case wore through around the GPS ant opening and they replaced it no questions asked.
It's worth the expense, paired with InvisibleSHEILD on the face only (had to buy the full body and only use the face pieces as the case is too snug for the full skin)

I just received this horizontal case from boxwave http://www.boxwave.com/products/dlcase/at_t-fuze-designio-leather-case_3350.htm
I didn't realize that it did not come with a belt clip, also the fact that the keyboard is covered by the plastic worries me, (Keyboard paint will stick to the plastic overtime?)
So just to reiterate what Kyphur said, this Norve case does come with a belt clip?

Yes it does.
I got the Proporta case first and it had the plastic over the keyboard, I didn't like that at all.

Order Submitted, Thanks.

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The case holds the phone quite snug even in the open position.
The new belt clip is so much better than the one they used just a year ago.
The warranty on the case is lifetime, my kaiser case wore through around the GPS ant opening and they replaced it no questions asked.
It's worth the expense, paired with InvisibleSHEILD on the face only (had to buy the full body and only use the face pieces as the case is too snug for the full skin)
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Hm I was really looking forward to installing BodyGuardz and then using the Noreve Case. But from what I heard is that the BodyGuardz case is thicker than the InvisibleSHIELD. So from what kyphur says, I probably couldn't install BG and use this case?

The Noreve case is too snug for any full body protector. You will only be able to use the front face.
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Hm I was really looking forward to installing BodyGuardz and then using the Noreve Case. But from what I heard is that the BodyGuardz case is thicker than the InvisibleSHIELD. So from what kyphur says, I probably couldn't install BG and use this case?
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Seidio's Innocase Surface Case - Black

I've never had one before, but heard good things about the Seidio case. It's available for order now.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK
I just ordered the case and clip combo.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD2-HLCSR2HTFE-BK
Might get the Innodock Jr. charger later.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CRJHTCX1-BKC

OlSarge said:
I've never had one before, but heard good things about the Seidio case. It's available for order now.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK
I just ordered the case and clip combo.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD2-HLCSR2HTFE-BK
Might get the Innodock Jr. charger later.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CRJHTCX1-BKC
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I owned the seidio clip holster for my Kaiser and loved it!! Very sturdy and comfortable. Will definitely be ordering one for my Rafael.

Have the hybrid case for the Kaiser. It still is a top-notch case (once Seidio gets their head out of their ass about their online support).

Just got the Innocase and it's much much better quality than the other Amazon one.
Another truly excellent case after the hybrid Seidio case on the Kaiser.
First 3 pictures are of Innocase
4th is with Amazon's case's top with thick borders around the screen
5th is comparison of these "Touch" screen border thickness.
Macro-mode for those that haven't figured it out in the Youtube videos. Yes, Amazon's case has its rubberization already peeling before I took it out of its shipping packet.

4th is with Amazon's case's top with thick borders around the screen
5th is comparison of these "Touch" screen border thickness.
Very illuminating photos - thank-you!
Was "reasonably certain" that would not find using the Touch Screen with a FINGER all that attractive - after all, have hardly ever used my Axim without the Stylus.
But in actual practice find that it IS often convenient to simply swipe a finger at the screen, and so your comments about the relative Screen Border Thickness - and hence the possibility of interference with finger-contact near the edges of the screen - are very interesting.
Still, $30 seems a lot for small hunk of plastic....

rkistler said:
But in actual practice find that it IS often convenient to simply swipe a finger at the screen, and so your comments about the relative Screen Border Thickness - and hence the possibility of interference with finger-contact near the edges of the screen - are very interesting.
Still, $30 seems a lot for small hunk of plastic....
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As illustrated, the Seidio case is thin (on width) around the screen leaving plenty of space for finger-gestures. Hitting X and menus at bottom is no problem. The Amazon case felt like it was a 8525 again.
There's also velvet in the case back so it doesn't scratch the OEM smooth back. This raises the back a few mm above the original diamond plate, but with the speaker hole, it's all around good protection.
For $30, Seidio tends to be the first and last case you'll ever get because it's a perfect fit, and solid at protection and surviving drops. Only reason to switch to another case is they come out with some other fancy idea such as a hybrid rubber-crystal case + holster, or other colors. I would go for a white case.
I paid $8 (total) for the Amazon case and you can see what I got. Horribly fitting, messes with the slider, rubberization peeling before it came out of the bag. $30 isn't that bad especially since I'm still very happy with the hybrid-case I got for my Kaiser last year.
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whatever case you guys end up getting, I have to say my FUZE is a much more pleasant beast now that the cold, slimy feeling is gone.

the amazon case you purchased is not a good example of the other options out there. I am not saying anything negative about the Seido case. I have seen it personally and it is a nice case, but the one on Ebay that many are buying is also pretty nice, and no issues with the pealing your pictures showed. The employees in my company have 6 Fuze phones and no one has had any issues like that. The biggest illusion with the phone shown at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459761 is that the border is white and not black like the rest of the case.
The $30 cost is the main objection, but in general Seido makes quality cases.
Overall it is very positive that there are multiple options now available and more coming each day.

does this one interfere with teh screen as reported on the other amazon/ebay one? something about the inside of the upper left corner pressing down on the screen makes one unable to use the screen after having the case on for a few days... the only way to resolve this with the other one is to file down the inside of the plastic part that touches the screen...
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shadeone said:
does this one interfere with teh screen as reported on the other amazon/ebay one? something about the inside of the upper left corner pressing down on the screen makes one unable to use the screen after having the case on for a few days... the only way to resolve this with the other one is to file down the inside of the plastic part that touches the screen...
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I'm interested in the answer to this question too. My initial attempt at sanding down my rubberized ebay case was not successful, my phone still locked up after a couple of days.
Fuze innocase owners, are you lockup free after days of operation?

jknuckey said:
I'm interested in the answer to this question too. My initial attempt at sanding down my rubberized ebay case was not successful, my phone still locked up after a couple of days.
Fuze innocase owners, are you lockup free after days of operation?
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on your ebay case, why are you still locking up? mine is not locking up anymore at all after sanding down a little on the inside upper left side?

TVDinner said:
but the one on Ebay that many are buying is also pretty nice, and no issues with the pealing your pictures showed. The employees in my company have 6 Fuze phones and no one has had any issues like that. The biggest illusion with the phone shown at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459761 is that the border is white and not black like the rest of the case.
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Just because you're happy with the work you put into fixing your Ebay case does not mean you should troll other case threads to protect your investment and mind-share about it. Also stating that I'm not a Seidio apologist since I haven't had the greatest shipping experience last time around, and their CS/managers lying back-and-forth about it.
Lock-ups? Are you seriously kidding? That's a red-flag for me right there. Even the Amazon case doesn't have that problem.
The Innocase is a perfect fit with no modifications necessary. That's what paying a slight premium gets you. Costs less than getting the Expansys Touch Pro back too.
It's like paying for the unlocked version of the phone. No crapware, loads of accessories, and special attention to details the cut-rate version doesn't have.
I've noticed the Ebay case has a huge clip tab right next to the volume-up button. The Seidio case clips seem to be more thoughtfully placed, and smaller, thinner. In fact, the bottom case has a cut-out curve around the volume/PTT buttons also that helps the case stay out of the way.

Thank you for you info, and no trolling (that made me laugh) intended. I have the ebay case AND have ordered the Seido case, which we were waiting for. Thanks again.

OlSarge said:
I've never had one before, but heard good things about the Seidio case. It's available for order now.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CSR2HTFE-BK
I just ordered the case and clip combo.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BD2-HLCSR2HTFE-BK
Might get the Innodock Jr. charger later.
http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=CRJHTCX1-BKC
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I've had the case, belt clip and charger for a few days. Overall, I'm very happy with the products, and would purchase Seidio equipment again in the future. I've had a few different cases for my old 8525, and I like this one for my Fuze the best.
I love the case. It's not bulky, and has a good feel to it. I wasn't sure about the clips that hold the case to the phone, because they looked fragile...but it holds very nicely.
The belt clip for the case is fine. Seems to hold the phone and case in very well, and the belt clip will not slip off any belt I've tried it on.
The charger...I'm not happy with it. That's my fault not Seidio's, I didn't read the description of the charger. I'm sure it's a quality product. It is a small dock type charger, but comes with a cable with two large USB connections on it. So it can be docked when plugged into a computer's USB. I thought it would have a connection to plug into a wall outlet.

Just bought the combo pack, Will post pics when it arrives.

Just wondering if this case will fit the Bell / CDMA version, is it a rubber type compound, as well does the case scratch the phone in any way?
Thanks

Some questions?
For ppl that have the combo case/holster. Can you put the phone with the case on it, in the holster with screen facing in (screen facing you) and out (screen facing away from you)?
Thanks

TVDinner said:
Thank you for you info, and no trolling (that made me laugh) intended. I have the ebay case AND have ordered the Seido case, which we were waiting for. Thanks again.
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Hey TVDinner, why did you order the Seidio case? Did your filed ebay case start locking up again?
To answer your question to me in my earlier response, I don't know why my ebay case locked up after my filing attempt. Maybe I didn't file it enough? My tolerance level for trial and error is pretty low, so maybe I'll just order the innocase...

jknuckey said:
Hey TVDinner, why did you order the Seidio case? Did your filed ebay case start locking up again?
To answer your question to me in my earlier response, I don't know why my ebay case locked up after my filing attempt. Maybe I didn't file it enough? My tolerance level for trial and error is pretty low, so maybe I'll just order the innocase...
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Hi jknuckey - no my ebay case is working great to be honest. no issues at all after my initial filing on it. But I always need to have "the best" case, lol. I was originally waiting for the Seidio one, but they were taking to long and I ordered the ebay one. then shortly after the Seidio one became available, lol.

datruth said:
For ppl that have the combo case/holster. Can you put the phone with the case on it, in the holster with screen facing in (screen facing you) and out (screen facing away from you)?
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There are two models of the holster.
One that fits only just the phone:
https://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HLHTFEAS
"Seidio's stylish holster provides the ultimate in convenience and functionality by securing your Smartphone on all sides.
- Unique Spring-Clip holds your device securely and lifts for quick access
- Soft-touch "rubberized" texture provides a unique look and extra protection
- Face-in design protects your device's screen
- Locking swivel belt clip with 7 rotating angles
- Easy access to connectors"
One that only fits the phone with the case:
https://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=HLHTFEASC
"Seidio’s Innocase holster offers the best carrying solution when paired with our Innocase.
- Designed specifically for Seidio Innocases
- Unique Spring-Clip holds your device securely and lifts for quick access
- Face-in design protects your device's screen
- Locking swivel belt clip with 7 rotating angles
- Easy access to connectors
*This holster is designed for use exclusively with our Innocases and will not fit a "naked" device or other manufacturer's products. "
The holsters are custom fit, the phone only goes in facing you.

NuShrike said:
Just got the Innocase and it's much much better quality than the other Amazon one.
Another truly excellent case after the hybrid Seidio case on the Kaiser.
First 3 pictures are of Innocase
4th is with Amazon's case's top with thick borders around the screen
5th is comparison of these "Touch" screen border thickness.
Macro-mode for those that haven't figured it out in the Youtube videos. Yes, Amazon's case has its rubberization already peeling before I took it out of its shipping packet.
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Hey bro any peeling so far from the Innocase? I just ordered it... I had the ebay one but man screen still freezing after I filed.. bleh...