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Would having a thicker screen protector allow us to make the screen more flush to the trim? I have read that the screen is only recessed 1mm. It seems that we could easily compensate for that with a protector, essentially making the screen flush already?
Is the screen further recessed than I have read--and has anyone had issues hitting the screen perimeters? Scroll bars, X/OK, start menus, outter letters on on-screen keyboards... et al?
I want this (the x1a) to be my next phone, and I think I can deal with the screen, but I would like to make it as close to my original Touch as possible--which has the best recessed touchscreen I have ever used. I can easily hit all the extremities, and scroll, and when I draw on the screen using the Notes application, I can easily draw to all the borders, using my thumb.
With the speediness of this phones rotation, I worry less about the on-screen keyboard, but I find myself wanting to use it a lot... like, for quick messages, and entering data into programs, like a web browser. I use the hardware keyboard for longer emails, texts, or modifying documents.
How has the recessed screen affected you guys?
makes it more difficult to be a one hand touch phone. you need to use the stylus to make selections more accurate. im always using a stylus anyways but it would be a better phone if the screen wasnt recessed.
Well sometimes it is indeed an annoyance but not really all that great. For multiple reasons though. I'm often having hard time using controls on the borders with my finger, I found out it's better to just kind of push at the border itself and thus let only part of the finger on the screen than trying to push it in the border and selecting something farther from the border. Furthermore it makes the screen harder to clean.
Also I've noticed reduced sensitivity around the borders even using the stylus (in Pocket Artist to be exact), is this normal? I have to push a bit more to draw, etc.
However, I can imagine a flush screen wouldn't really fit the design of the phone
Wow, these comments are very disconcerning to me... If the screen is annoying to use, and they keyboard is not as good as the Pro, then why would anyone pay 3x the price to get this instead? I took my Pro back because the Sprint model overheats--the AT&T model has crappy GPS, that AT&T locked down...
I really like what I see in the X1, but if critical WM functions are hard to use without a stylus then that would be a deal-killer for me
to me, i dont think the phone is worth the 800 i paid because i kind of was expecting more. a phone that is an all in one for me. phone, wifi, browse, tethering..... and compact.
dont get me wrong, it does all that i want so far but i think the screen is a little to small. great resolution but screen could of been a bit bigger. i bought the phone on line and so i never really got to physically see it before i bought it. i just went with what was on the specs alone.
also i was expecting more out of the browser... its okay but i just wished it had a full browser with complete flash and java support.
its my first wm device and so i was also expecting more out of the os.
sliding keyboard was one reason i bought this also and so again i was expecting better.... keyboard is okay but i wish it had more key mapping options and key functions. it seems when using the keyboard, i also have to use the stylus.
i guess i was just expecting better for my 800 bucks but then again i havent really tried customizing it such as trying different third party apps or the other cab files.
i think the htc hd would of been a better phone for me but they dont make it for the u.s high speed band. i got what i got and so ill try and make the best of it and see if i can make the most of it.
Yeah, right now, we don't have that many great options in the U.S.
We have the CDMA Omnia, but it's screen is pathetic compared to the HD. It's also quite unresponsive, and very awful around the edges...
We have the CDMA Diamond, which overheats, and has similar screen issues. No SD slot either.
We have the CDMA Pro, which overheats, has similar screen issues, and more defects than you can shake a stick at.
We have the AT&T Pro, that has crippled GPS...
So what the hell is the best phone out there right now or in the near future? It sounds like the X1 just isn't worth it... Maybe if it was $299 with a contract, like the Pro...
I really don't get your complaints. What's the problem with the screen?
The recessed display is the best idea SE had with this phone. I won't even think about the scratches I had on the screen if it were plain like the TouchHD.
By the way, the Xperia has the same price as the Touch Pro here in Austria and it's far the better choice. For me it's all in one and everything I want from a PPC works fine.
skycamefalling said:
I really don't get your complaints. What's the problem with the screen?
The recessed display is the best idea SE had with this phone. I won't even think about the scratches I had on the screen if it were plain like the TouchHD.
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How does the recessed screen help with scratches
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How does the recessed screen help with scratches
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The frame is protecting the screen. When the unit is faced downwards on a flat surface it won't let the screen touch it directly, that way you save a lot of scratches.
Also I find the recessed screen very handy with sliders, with my thumb nail I can scroll as fast as I want without worrying loosing the slider. The only problem with the screen so far is the "x" button on the right corner, but I am getting used to it.
A minor advantage is that screen protectors can be fitted more easily and accurately. Of course non-recessed screens have other advantages but nonetheless I am very happy X1s screen.
XavierGr said:
The frame is protecting the screen. When the unit is faced downwards on a flat surface it won't let the screen touch it directly, that way you save a lot of scratches.
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Thank you for explaining, that's exactly what I meant to say
If the screen were plain it would be scratched by the zipper of my pocket all the time. So the zipper just touches the frame and this doesn't matter.
however it protects the screen from scratches...
skycamefalling said:
I really don't get your complaints. What's the problem with the screen?
The recessed display is the best idea SE had with this phone. I won't even think about the scratches I had on the screen if it were plain like the TouchHD.
By the way, the Xperia has the same price as the Touch Pro here in Austria and it's far the better choice. For me it's all in one and everything I want from a PPC works fine.
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Here in the US, the Pro is $199 or $299 with 2-year, and the X1 will be $799. Also, if you put a screen protector on your device, your screen looks perfect. My Touch has zero scratches on the screen, but has one or two on the screen protector..
May I ask why you would ever want to lay your phone down on it's screen? I have never done that on any phone I've owned, PDA or not.
XavierGr said:
The frame is protecting the screen. When the unit is faced downwards on a flat surface it won't let the screen touch it directly, that way you save a lot of scratches.
Also I find the recessed screen very handy with sliders, with my thumb nail I can scroll as fast as I want without worrying loosing the slider. The only problem with the screen so far is the "x" button on the right corner, but I am getting used to it.
A minor advantage is that screen protectors can be fitted more easily and accurately. Of course non-recessed screens have other advantages but nonetheless I am very happy X1s screen.
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I'm glad to hear you are happy with the screen--but you really have to use your fingernail with the scroll bars? That's pretty weak... like we are going back to the days of the Apache...
You guys can verify that the screen is really only recessed about 1mm? If so, wouldn't putting a screen protector on there make the screen flush again?
ScrapMaker said:
You guys can verify that the screen is really only recessed about 1mm? If so, wouldn't putting a screen protector on there make the screen flush again?
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Well it's really recessed only a little and I guess it does protect it a bit. I actually had both the touch pro and X1 in hand and then actually chose to go with the X1, they are priced the same here too.
MagNetCZ said:
Well it's really recessed only a little and I guess it does protect it a bit. I actually had both the touch pro and X1 in hand and then actually chose to go with the X1, they are priced the same here too.
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Do you think that if we had a thicker screen protector, could it make the screen flush, and have the same effect as, say, a Touch--with a true flush screen, unlike the Diamond and Pro...
the screen protector would have to be pretty thick to make up the recessed area. not worth the effort.... i think if you buy it, youll just have to try live with it. its really not that bad but would have been more touch screen friendly if it was flush. not a deal breaker for me and the more i use my phone, the more i am getting to like it more... but still not worth the 800 bucks (no phone is worth 800 bucks, i just bought the phone on a whim).
Sorry to say that but the idea is flawed.
Imagine having to handle complex equipment with 3 gloves on your hands... it will be a mess.
Anyway I don't really understand the fuss about flush screens, the only problem I find on XPERIAs recessed screen is the 'x' button on the top right corner and a bit of the 'Start' button. The scrollbars are way too thick to be a problem to operate.
Both problems are solved with time and experience with the device. Imho the protection of the recessed screen outperforms the advantage of easy access on the 'x' button, not to mention that you can just press the ok button to have the same effect.
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not to mention that you can just press the ok button to have the same effect.
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Exactly. And I can imagine the sensitivity going downhill with protectors that thick anyway.
Oh, it has an OK button?
Iiinnnnttteerrreseting!
Hello people
I am using Pocket Artist to draw and I love it.
But I am just little worried that I may scratch the display - which I would not like at all.
is it possible to make some scracthes with the stylus?
Thank you people.
Sopis said:
Hello people
I am using Pocket Artist to draw and I love it.
But I am just little worried that I may scratch the display - which I would not like at all.
is it possible to make some scracthes with the stylus?
Thank you people.
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If you have your screen protector on which came with the phone you should have no problems
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is it possible to make some scracthes with the stylus?
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yes it is. imagine that you can have some dust particles (which, in the end, is just stone) under your stylus
but if you use the screen protector, as advised, you can forget about this issue
noris08 said:
yes it is. imagine that you can have some dust particles (which, in the end, is just stone) under your stylus
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??? Off topic i know but Stone ???? Surely dust particles are generally human skin, in the house anyway.... Stone...my god no wonder i am putting on weight if all i am eating is dust !!
Sorry couldnt help that bit of fun, no malice intended. I concur though that so long as you have a screen protector on of some nature you should be fine to draw away to your hearts content.
Yes, I get small, small, "stone" on stylus on my old HP 4150. You can just imagine what I did with that screen. Since this disaster, there is allways screen protector on all my mobiles, pdas,....
whilst im not convinced that dust could scratch it since just is just human skin im positive that all the other crap that sticks to the screen finger grease can and will scratch it if run over with the stylus.
Sopis said:
Hello people
I am using Pocket Artist to draw and I love it.
But I am just little worried that I may scratch the display - which I would not like at all.
is it possible to make some scracthes with the stylus?
Thank you people.
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Take as much care of your stylus as you do your screen. Check the end of your stylus for chips and scratches.
Old chinese proverb....
Look after your stylus and it will look after your screen!
Anfloyd said:
Old chinese proverb....
Look after your stylus and it will look after your screen!
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the infinite wisdom of the chinese people......
about the dust - despite what some might belive, dust is not only dead skin (found mostly within people houses) but came also from walls, roads, fields, etc.
So better respect "the chinese proverb" and you will more happy
i actually did scratch mine in the first days.
the protection it came with was already gone so i removed it.
but i did not want to put the real one on if i had to return it to the store.
i scrolled up in the wether panel and voila a big scratch all over the phone.
i guess the stylus had a sharp end.
you could hardly feel it with the finger but the stylus stuck at it and you couldnt use it anymore.
but my store swapped it without question
thanks for all the replies guys
so as you guys advised and blah blah...
i didnt put the screen protector...and what I found on my screen when I went to bed?
SCRATCH!! just a little one...but it is there...
so I learned a lesson..and now I wanted to apply the SP but really couldnt, then I accidentaly touched the adhesive side (I did applying screen protector 1st time ever) and it got dirty OMG ..I hope I can wash it somehow and reapply or whatever..
Yep so anyone who will read this thread without having SP applied - DO IT!
Very good advice...because if you will read this thread and wont apply SP you will get a scratch, black magic!! Buhuhuhaha
Just kiddin...
Hi,
I was wondering if anybody has ever come across a single piece silicone skin that will fit the Touch Pro. I recently had my phone in my pocket, and got a bit wet, and had problems with the bottom right button until I dried it with a hair dryer.
There seems to be plenty of skins on eBay etc, but they are two part with lots of cut outs, and wouldn't protect the phone from damp conditions. What I'm looking for is a single piece skin with just cut outs for the screen, mic, earpiece and and speaker to protext the phone from the damp as much as possible.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Steve.
Wouldn't a single piece skin make it impossible to slide open?
Yes, which is why I'm probably struggling to find one, but there are plenty of phones without slide-out keyboards that manage ok. If I'm going on a bit of a hike/trek then I'd happily live without the ability to slide the keyboard out for the extra protection.
Cheers,
Steve.
I posted this on another page, if you do a search on Amazon for Touch Pro cases, you will find a LOT of cases. Some I picked up for about .99c. And, I bought about 3 of them which were rubberized cases. The way the case stays on the TP is that it has a joint at the top and bottom of the two pieces of the case.
I've seen the cases on Amazon, and eBay, and the silicon ones seem to come in two pieces, one for the top half and one for the bottom half? I think to offer any protection from moisture, it would be better in a single piece - I'm wondering whether one for the Diamond would fit, although the diamond is about 7mm thinner, so I doubt it.
I guess I'm just out of luck.
Cheers,
Steve.
How do you get as single piece on a device with a slide-out keyboard?
I think you are missing my point. I'm saying that I'm happy to have a case that, while it's on, I'm happy not to be able to slide out the keyboard.
Cheers,
Steve.
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StevePritchard said:
I think you are missing my point. I'm saying that I'm happy to have a case that, while it's on, I'm happy not to be able to slide out the keyboard.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Then i'm completely confused as to why you'd want a phone that HAS a slide-out keyboard but you want a case that makes it unusable. Why not just go with a phone that doesn't have a slide-out keyboard?
It's very simple. I have a Phone with a slide out keyboard (which I love - I think it's great, and I wouldn't want to change it for one that doesn't have a keyboard). If I go on a hike where I might get rained on, I'd like to take my phone, but I'd also like to offer it as much protection from the rain/damp as I can. For the duration of the hike, I don't mind not having access to the slide out keyboard, because it has a perfectly functional on-screen keyboard that I can use if I really need to.
I could get a waterproof wallet for it, but I think that's a bit impractical and bulky, so I was wondering whether I could get a one-piece silicone case for it, only to use while out on a hike. That's all.
Cheers,
Steve.
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It's very simple. I have a Phone with a slide out keyboard (which I love - I think it's great, and I wouldn't want to change it for one that doesn't have a keyboard). If I go on a hike where I might get rained on, I'd like to take my phone, but I'd also like to offer it as much protection from the rain/damp as I can. For the duration of the hike, I don't mind not having access to the slide out keyboard, because it has a perfectly functional on-screen keyboard that I can use if I really need to.
I could get a waterproof wallet for it, but I think that's a bit impractical and bulky, so I was wondering whether I could get a one-piece silicone case for it, only to use while out on a hike. That's all.
Cheers,
Steve.
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$2.99, box of ziplock sandwich bags.
sanjsrik said:
$2.99, box of ziplock sandwich bags.
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Good call. Looks like it's my best option.
Cheers,
Steve.
What? I'm being serious. what do you think those "waterproof" bags are for phones?
StevePritchard said:
It's very simple. I have a Phone with a slide out keyboard (which I love - I think it's great, and I wouldn't want to change it for one that doesn't have a keyboard). If I go on a hike where I might get rained on, I'd like to take my phone, but I'd also like to offer it as much protection from the rain/damp as I can. For the duration of the hike, I don't mind not having access to the slide out keyboard, because it has a perfectly functional on-screen keyboard that I can use if I really need to.
I could get a waterproof wallet for it, but I think that's a bit impractical and bulky, so I was wondering whether I could get a one-piece silicone case for it, only to use while out on a hike. That's all.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Check out this one if you haven't already. It's a bit bulky, but you can talk without removing it from the case.
ribcage said:
Check out this one if you haven't already. It's a bit bulky, but you can talk without removing it from the case.
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Which one's that - I'm assuming you meant to include a link?
I've plumped for a cheap "disposable" one for now, which looks a bit like a condom - how many times you can use it before you need to dispose of it, I'm not sure.
Cheers,
Steve
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Plus, do a google search for htc touchpro silicone case
I have one of these that I use when I go camping. You can use it in the case but it is also easy to get in and out of the case. A bit bulky but I know my phone will not get hurt.
http://www.otterbox.com/handheld-pda-cases/1900-series/1900-series-pda-case/
sanjsrik said:
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Plus, do a google search for htc touchpro silicone case
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Thanks for the link - I think that case, along with all the other silicone ones I can find specifically for the Touch Pro are split to allow the keyboard to slide out, which won't offer as much protection from moisture as I would like.
JudgeDredd67 said:
I have one of these that I use when I go camping. You can use it in the case but it is also easy to get in and out of the case. A bit bulky but I know my phone will not get hurt.
http://www.otterbox.com/handheld-pda-cases/1900-series/1900-series-pda-case/
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That looks like a serious piece of kit, but is a bit expensive and bulky compared to what I was hoping for.
Cheers,
Steve.
Make no mistake, otterboxes are freakin' huge. HUGE.
Well, you will probably not make your touch pro water resistant with a case...but I'd say this "armor" does make it tough to break.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Touch-Pro..._37?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1226243877&sr=8-37
This is definitely not a good case. It has to flip open to use the keyboard.
I got mt HTC Capacitive stylus the other day, how the hell are you supposed to use it? It is as fat as my finger with a very loose fitting piece of plastic at the business end that has a red dot in the centre of it. This is not a well made piece of hardware and will certainly break in short order. To make matters worse it cost £20..................Waaaaaaaaaaa
Timax_50 said:
I got mt HTC Capacitive stylus the other day, how the hell are you supposed to use it? It is as fat as my finger with a very loose fitting piece of plastic at the business end that has a red dot in the centre of it. This is not a well made piece of hardware and will certainly break in short order. To make matters worse it cost £20..................Waaaaaaaaaaa
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I have the dagi version which by all reports is pretty much the same (£15ish for me though)... its a bit tricky and takes a bit of getting used to and I dont know why they need the whole of that plastic bit at the end as it seems to work ok with just a small part of it... but after some playing with it I find its very accurate and I can write chinese characters much easier and select text for copy and paste or to get a pop up definition much easier too... oh and I keep mine in my pocket and so far its proved to be fairly robust... (although I wouldnt want to sit on it to be fair)... I would like one that isnt so big at the end and was more like a pen... but so far so ok...
Ever considered trying to sand the tip just to make it smaller...?
Q-tip o Pencil Eraser?
Anybody remember the story about NASA contracting out a way for astronauts to use ink pens in space? Care to guess how the Russians did it? They used a pencil. My personal favorite...a Q tip.
Just an idea, haven't tried it myself yet, but how about an empty felt tip pen?
SnittyKitty said:
My personal favorite...a Q tip.
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Doesn't work for me... maybe only the real original brand does?
SnittyKitty said:
Anybody remember the story about NASA contracting out a way for astronauts to use ink pens in space? Care to guess how the Russians did it? They used a pencil. My personal favorite...a Q tip.
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Thats because graphite in electrical equipment is a no-no. Especially graphite dust floating in weightlessness!
I've found that blister tablet packs work well. I think it's the hollow metal case. I'm still experimenting. It's too sensitive at the moment.
So is it only me or this phone has a very sensitive screen to dirtyness? it is so annoying and sliding sometimes even gets a bit difficult
Do you know any way to improve it? I know there are products but I mean something you have actually tested...
Thank you!
it could be the case's fault, i had one that just collected ever speck of crap imaginable
Javi22 said:
So is it only me or this phone has a very sensitive screen to dirtyness? it is so annoying and sliding sometimes even gets a bit difficult
Do you know any way to improve it? I know there are products but I mean something you have actually tested...
Thank you!
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the whole phone is a magnet for dust and scratches, the back will get scratched from pocket lint, the front afaik will get the same.
Grab a full screen cover and a decent all over bumper or the karbon case, then just don't drop it.
This phone is a piece of sh*t, when i'm rid of it i'll be glad.
I'll never buy another 1+ ever again, power yes, but sweet jesus, their support is cancer.
I'll never do this again.