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My vario randomly connects to GPRS without asking me, i suspect this will be costing me on my bill, so I'd like to turn it off. How do i do that?
my XDA mini s does the same. But it is a WM problem. Let me describe my common situation.
Connected to Wifi, running MSN Messenger. Left device for a while and it went sleeping. It also turns off Wifi! But then when MSN needs to connect in the background, it goes to GPRS!! When I wake up my device, it has already used GPRS for MSN and when it wakes, it tries to connect back to my Wifi!!!!
I'm on roaming so the GPRS is dear-er.
Best way, is to create a null modem, or invalid connection. Set your device to connect to that null connection automatically when requesting for internet access. Not the best, but at least it won't cost you or me.
The thing is it does it when I'm not even doing anything, it just pops that gprs icon up and does its own thing.
OK I didnt quite follow what you said there, so imagine I'm an idiot who dosent understand what a null connection is, then explain it to me again....
Long press hang-down key.... (2-3 sec)
so imagine I'm an idiot who dosent understand what a null connection is, then explain it to me again....[/quote]
lol like your response,
I do agree with Humps, dont know of a way to turn of the gprs but his way does ensure it wont connect on its own.
when you goto settings/connections/connections (this is wm2003 that i refer to) you will see your t-mobile settings.
and the options to manage existing connections. go into here and create a new connection give it anyname you want (you want it not to work) give it any settings it will accept that are wrong,
then from the connections page at the bottom you have tasks and advanced.
when you want GPRS active goto advanced and select t-mobile
when you dont want it to be able to connect go back to the advanced screen and select the dodgy one you just created.
then if it tries to connect the settings will all be wrong and it will fail.
good plan.
I really wish it would ask permission to go online with gprs...personally I changed the name of the access point in my o2 settings, so it can't connect until I change it back to the proper name.
John
Pixel69 said:
Long press hang-down key.... (2-3 sec)
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Even after a 30 second press, it still stays connected with the 'G' icon in the top of the screen.
I've tried setting up a new GPRS called dummy, so I'll se how it goes.
Is it the big [G] icon, or the small G with arrows around it?
Because the former just means that GPRS is available - only the latter means that you're connected to it.
you want to give SPB GPRS Monitor a try, even if only for the trial it will let you know if its using any while its idle,
good app would be well worth keeping in it.
This doesnt seem normal to me as i dont remember this happening when i first got my 8125. When i go to internet explorer after i turn on wifi and connect to my home network it starts loading the page and then the connecting to gprs dialog box shows up. It still seems like it is using wifi but when i click on the wifi signal the gprs time meter is counting up. It seems to me like it shouldnt try to connect to gprs if the wifi signal is already picked up and connected. I thought i remembered reading about this somewhere but ive read so many topics in different places that i cant find it. Is this normal or should i do something to fix it? Thanks in advance.
Ty
anyone?
i just did this last night ..hopefully i rememebr the steps
but what you essentially have to do is remove the connection to the GPRS network and then itll stop connectinig to GPRS brb with an edit ill have to retrace my steps
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ok i think this is how i did it
tap start --settings -- connections tab -- then tap on connections and then make sure that there are no connections for GPRS i know its a little vague but i really forgot how i did it..
can't say that that helped me to much, sorry. I dont want to eliminate the gprs all together, i just dont want it to connect when im using wifi. Please help!
even with wifi on when it goes to sleep it will be the gprs that kicks in - pain in the butt :shock:
im just looking for a fix for this. Unfortunately my work doesnt have wifi so i cant test some things ive read here to see if it still does it. I have tried going into connections-network adapters- and selecting "the internet". Also, when i go to settings--connections--connections-advanced should i have media net, my isp, or my work selected? not sure if this has anything to do with my problem but i just want to make sure. Also, when i am connected to wifi and my gprs timer is also going, which is it using? I have an unlimited data plan so its not the biggest deal if its running but i just want to make sure im using wifi, not gprs.
RegistryWizard?
Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...
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justintime07 said:
Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...
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nope, I don't have that program...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=320173#320173
You will select either 'My work network' or 'My ISP' depending on which rom you're using. If MEdia Net is selected, it will use GPRS. To tell whether or not it will use GPRS on any of these settings, you hit the 'edit' button. Don't change anything, but check it out, and it will tell you whether it will connect to GPRS if anything is in there. For me, 'My ISP' has 'auto pick' which means if it finds wifi or wifi is enabled, it will use that first, if not then use GPRS. If you have a stock rom, 'My ISP' may not have anything in it, therefore it will use wifi, or nothing. Remember to associate any wireless router you have to either your 'work' or 'internet' profiles.
awsome, looks like that worked. One question though....am i affected in any way by not having it set to media net? Will my edge and everything still work the same if i leave it on my isp? Thanks for the help
Ty
EDIT: It works better than it did but every so often it trys to connect to edge but it usually doesnt unless im inactive for a bit online. Is this supposed to happen?
I now leave my setting set to ISP instead of MediaNet and at first it is just connected to wifi but then as soon as it is done loading a page gprs tries to connect again so i have to hit cancel like 6 or 7 times to stop gprs from connecting. After that it doesnt try to connect but i wish i could avoid this because its a pain when im just trying to find something real fast. I just downloaded opera today and only tried a few pages on my wifi network and from the couple minutes i used it i dont think it ever tried to connect to the gprs while i was using wifi. i will have to test this a little bit more to confirm but is there any way its IE that could be causing the gprs to try and connect even though it has a full wifi signal?
Hi!
Im trying put my TyTN use WLAN on IE but i can't...
I go
Setting -> Connections -> My ISP -> Add a new modem connection -> Select a modem: there i can't find my wlan modem i have just
Bluetooth
Cellular Line
Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Generic IrDA
Hayes Compatible on COM1:
so what i can do plz help me
ravenclaw said:
Hi!
Im trying put my TyTN use WLAN on IE but i can't...
I go
Setting -> Connections -> My ISP -> Add a new modem connection -> Select a modem: there i can't find my wlan modem i have just
Bluetooth
Cellular Line
Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)
Generic IrDA
Hayes Compatible on COM1:
so what i can do plz help me
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Mmmm... First turn on WLAN - one way is use the button below the On/Off hard button on the side of the case. This opens a screen that shows your connections. One of them looks like an aerial with waves coming from it. It should not have a cross on it. If it has, tap it to turn on Wireless mode.
Move within 10metres of your WLan Router.
Your device in a short time should automatically detect the WLAN and give you a pop up message. You will be offered the chance to connect to it and to enter any codes/keys for your LAN.
If you still have problems there is another little app. that might help so let me know.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Mmmm... First turn on WLAN - one way is use the button below the On/Off hard button on the side of the case. This opens a screen that shows your connections. One of them looks like an aerial with waves coming from it. It should not have a cross on it. If it has, tap it to turn on Wireless mode.
Move within 10metres of your WLan Router.
Your device in a short time should automatically detect the WLAN and give you a pop up message. You will be offered the chance to connect to it and to enter any codes/keys for your LAN.
If you still have problems there is another little app. that might help so let me know.
Mike
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Hello Mike
i had the same problem. i got it working by resetting the network connection. but after i always got a naggin popup, telling me GPRS cannot dial with present settings.
Since it was late last night, i gave up on PIE and use Opera instead.
no problem there
aquasesh said:
Hello Mike
i had the same problem. i got it working by resetting the network connection. but after i always got a naggin popup, telling me GPRS cannot dial with present settings.
Since it was late last night, i gave up on PIE and use Opera instead.
no problem there
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I assume of course you were wanting to use WLAN not GPRS.
If so you need to ensure GPRS is switched of, else it just keeps getting in before the WLAN has a chance to connect.
There is a recent thread called UMTS/GPRS and WLAN switching or something like that, that has a lot of discussion on how to do this. Presume Opera connected fine on WLAN.
From the sound of it though ravenclaw has not managed to get any connection on WLAN.
Mike
Hi! Yeah i have wlan box one meter away... and wlan is on and off (tried both)
And my clock is piece of **** it will behind? or goes foward... now here is time 20:25 - 7.12.2006 and phone says 6:24 8.12.2006
ravenclaw said:
Hi! Yeah i have wlan box one meter away... and wlan is on and off (tried both)
And my clock is piece of **** it will behind? or goes foward... now here is time 20:25 - 7.12.2006 and phone says 6:24 8.12.2006
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I'm puzzled by your WLAN problem. I assume you get no pop-up saying WLAN detected?? You could try downloading the hitchhiker application and see if that helps. http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/ remember you also need the .Netframework as well http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6b-356b-4a2c-857c-e62f50ae9a55&displaylang=en
As for the clock, I'm sure I saw a post (and a solution) somewhere on this forum not so long ago about this skipping time zones thing. Perhaps somebody remembers it and where it is??
Mike
ill try! but one stupid question how i can shutdown this machina? not pressing 5sec power button (cause it will disalbe changes... but like normal way? )
how i can reset this damm thing?!? ... doing it hard way...
Er..I think maybe you need to take a few steps back, then sit down and read the manual?
The on / off button is top right side, just a press will put device into standby (suspend) a long press turns the device completely off.
The reset button is the small hole at the bottom just to the right of the IR lens - poke it with the stylus to soft reset. As for hard reset - havent a clue, never had to do it.
yeah time thing solved
and phone reseted
Hello, I am come from HK
I just got the phone....but don't know why the phone always auto connect to internet. Then I turn off the data connection, but after a few minutes, it will auto connect again..........
Anyone can help me???
thanks so much!!
kayzee said:
Hello, I am come from HK
I just got the phone....but don't know why the phone always auto connect to internet. Then I turn off the data connection, but after a few minutes, it will auto connect again..........
Anyone can help me???
thanks so much!!
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Kayzee,
This is caused by your Internet settings.
1. Go to Programs/settings/all settings ( choose it from the menu on the bottom right corner ).
2. Tap Connections, within that tap once more Connections
3. Tap Advanced, than Select Networks
4. Under "Programs that automatically connect..", select My work Network instead of the mobile connection and tap OK.
From now on, it will never start data connection when trying to go to Internet, but you can always start it manually from the Comm manager.
I hope it helps, good luck !
If you search the forum, you'll find quite a few of solutions. But what works for me are:
1) BsB Tweaks - use it to disable the "data connection" (3G)
2) WiFi Toggle - use it to toggle the WiFi on & off
In "data services" turn everything to manual update, e.g tweeter, stocks, ...
Keeping the wifi on constantly doesn't actually consume much battery life and it's only the 3G really sucks the battery juice.
jarbi said:
Kayzee,
This is caused by your Internet settings.
1. Go to Programs/settings/all settings ( choose it from the menu on the bottom right corner ).
2. Tap Connections, within that tap once more Connections
3. Tap Advanced, than Select Networks
4. Under "Programs that automatically connect..", select My work Network instead of the mobile connection and tap OK.
From now on, it will never start data connection when trying to go to Internet, but you can always start it manually from the Comm manager.
I hope it helps, good luck !
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This doesn't work. Every time I check the Internet connection by loading a random webpage via the sense UI it still has an Internet connection, even if I doublechecked before to see if the Internet connection setting were off. This is frustrating
kayzee said:
Hello, I am come from HK
I just got the phone....but don't know why the phone always auto connect to internet. Then I turn off the data connection, but after a few minutes, it will auto connect again..........
Anyone can help me???
thanks so much!!
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just uncheck the "auto download " option in weather tab in tf3d
Hey guys
I'm a big time noob, and the HD2 is a complete marvel for me, its my first WM device and I'm learning alot thats for sure. If there is an obvious solution, apologies in advance
I've been looking around the forums and googling for answers, but still unsure about the data connection and wifi settings in the HD2, and have spent the last few days checking the connection status/settings. Sometimes I find that the WiFi and/or Data Connection ON/OFF toggle section is greyed out in Settings, no idea why as I haven't been able to find a real reason. Could anyone please explain why this may be the case?
Ideally I'd like the WiFi to be the preferred internet access mode, but I'm not sure what my phone is using when I access online content. I can see the wireless is connected, but how can I be sure its definitely using it? I can check the notifications that I'm connected, but I'm also seeing a connection to "Contract Internet" which is normally on H with full bars.
On my previous phone a Nokia N95 8gb (nothing compared to HD2 bar the camera ) whenever I wanted to go online, I had it set to "ask" what connection to use, e.g. I had a list of connections such as Vodadafone Contract (3G/GPRS) or from a list of my defined WiFi connections.
Is there something similar somewhere in the HD2 settings that would "ask" what kind of connection to use? It would be great if someone could let me know.
Sorry to be a pest, but anyone?
Hi there. I'm not an expert myself and HD2 is my first Windows Mobile device as well. I'll try and help, because I spent some time looking for answer on that particular subject. Let's go through this point by point.
(1) You have to understand the notification icons that appear on the topbar. Download the official user manual here and look for pages 39-40. These notifications are realtime, thus more precise than the Comm Manager.
(2) Let's be clear: the word "data connections" that appear in the Comm Manager only refer to the internet connections using 2G (GPRS or EDGE) or 3G (UMTS or HPSDA), not Wifi. So it won't toggle on, even when your wifi connection is up and running.
(3) A lot applications use your internet connection (Data or Wifi), even when the phone is in sleep mode (weather updates, stocks updates etc).
(4) About the following question: I'm not sure what my phone is using when I access online content. I'll tell you the way it works on my phone. Still, you'll need aswers of other people as well. You have to consider different situations.
- If no internet connection is on (no wifi, no data) and an application need to access internet (ex: Eutomatic updates or Opera browser), then the phone will open a data connection (2G or 3G). If it doesn't succeed, you'll get an error message.
- If wifi is already on and connected, but data connection is off, the applications will use the wifi connection. Unlike data connection, the applications are not able to "force wifi connection" if it's not already connected... I don't know if there is a setting or a tweak to change this.
(5) Unfortunately, I already experienced some application that "force" the opening of data connections, even with wifi on and connected. That's why I disable every automatic updates. I only do manual updates... and it "obeys", meaning that updates use the wifi when I'm connected, and force data connection when wifi is not available. I tried some complex (freewares) softwares like WMLongLife (found here) because I wanted the data connection to disconnect automatically after an updates (manual or automatic), but they were not very handy. The latest I tried gave me the best results. It's called Bandswitch 0.3 (found here). It works great in doing just that: automatic data disconnection after idle delay you choose.
(6) Is there something similar somewhere in the HD2 settings that would "ask" what kind of connection to use? I'm not absolety sure, but you could try to reach this settings. Follow this path: Windows icon -> Start menu -> Settings -> Connections -> Connections (yes, once again) -> Go to the tab called "Advanced" -> Click on the button "select networks". Here you can find what program which network programs must automaticaly use. You'll be able to see the 2G/3G network, but I'm not sure what you should choose to enable WIFI connection... Tell me if you find!
That's it folk. Cheers.
Sorry for a short answer, but Wifi will always be grayed out when your hooked up to your pc, I didnt notice it at first either so dont be embaressed
(subscribed to the thread because I think something that would let you pick your connection type would be ace)
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Sorry for a short answer, but Wifi will always be grayed out when your hooked up to your pc, I didnt notice it at first either so dont be embaressed
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I also noticed this, but yesterday I found an option in Activesync windows mobile device centre on my PC by accident. It says "disable data connection on phone when connected to PC"
If you untick this box you can connect to wifi and GPRS/HSDPA all whilst still connected to the PC through usb!
Elmo-85 said:
I also noticed this, but yesterday I found an option in Activesync windows mobile device centre on my PC by accident. It says "disable data connection on phone when connected to PC"
If you untick this box you can connect to wifi and GPRS/HSDPA all whilst still connected to the PC through usb!
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I guess you'd wanna do that only if your PC is not connected already to the internet... which is rare...
Because your device is automatically connected to the network your laptop/pc is currently connected to.
lovanova said:
I guess you'd wanna do that only if your PC is not connected already to the internet... which is rare...
Because your device is automatically connected to the network your laptop/pc is currently connected to.
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Yes it's strange isnt it. I cant think why it is necessary really to change this option
I just thought I would let you know incase you wondered !!
Thanks rzasharp and [★], things are clearer now.
lovanova said:
I guess you'd wanna do that only if your PC is not connected already to the internet... which is rare...
Because your device is automatically connected to the network your laptop/pc is currently connected to.
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Yes it's strange isnt it. I cant think why it is necessary really to change this option
I just thought I would let you know incase you wondered !!
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If your computer uses a proxy server to connect to the internet, your phone doesn't assume the same identity as your PC. At work I can't use the PCs internet connection on my phone when I connect via ActiveSync, but my phone charges and I can browse it in file explorer.
That's one reason why you'd want to do it