Hi everyone, I am in a bit frustrated. I did some reading and pretty much it goes like this, I had a road trip this weekend and wasn't able to charge my phone correctly (I used a TomTom car charger) everthing was fine. The phone was working, till I received a call (battery said 50%) and in the middle of the call it died (no battery warning nothing). I couldn't connect the phone at that time because the person I was traveling with decided I didn't need my phone and they needed theirs. so I let it go and tried to connect it when I got home. Nothing when I got home, the LED on the connector is lit, but the phone responds to nothing. Not with the battery out or in while connected. If the phone is dead, is it repairable? or should I just start looking for a new phone?
Well, looks like your battery did not survive your TomTom charger!
If you have the possibility: go to an AT&T store and see if they can give you a battery for testing purposes. Or, if you know someone nearby with a 8525, ask him to shortly put his battery in your device. If your phone works with that battery, simply go to eBay or elsewhere and buy yourself a new battery!
I appreciate the laugh junner, I am thinking the same. AT&T are a bunch idiots the first guy said that's not a phone they carry (nor did they ever, silly when it says at&t on it). so a batteries plus or ebay is in my near future. still trying to find a person at my job with a 8525.
ok new battery and its dead. so my question now is can I wipe my device in anyway before I try to sell it?
Did you try to recharge without the battery? I ask this because if you get a red light then it may not be dead...
Mike Channon has a site to go to for things of this nature or give him a pm as I'm pretty sure he said that sometimes the part of the phone responsible for charging sort of goes to sleep and needs to be shocked back to life but can't for the life of me remember where I read it. He may be able to tell you how to fix so you don't have to sell...
Just a thought...
Cheers...
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MDA got dropped (by a friend trying to be funny) about 18inches onto tile floor and into a small puddle. Caused small water spash into phone. Phone didn't work for 18hrs then T-Mobile store plugged in and it worked. Within 5 days the battery was fully dead 20 minutes after a supposedly full charge. I believe that the phone has not been charging the battery at all. --no lite comes on at all. At first a red light would come on but now nothing (same, new, original charger)I am willing to open phone to look for loose connection or do whatever else it takes. --just need to know how to proceed. Any help other than telling me to charge with original charger will be appreciated. I have read many threads here and none seem to mention this exact issue
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I have read in this forums a way to jump start the battery by using a 9v battery. Just do a search and hopefully it helps you.
Clem
the battery is not the issue
I am looking for someone who has taken apart the MDA to address this issue. I have a new battery, and charger and I think the phone has a loose connection, but I am a bit nervous to take apart the phone--I'm not as experienced as all the peeps on this forum
I have the Service Manual I can send it to you if interested.
I'm very interested in how to do this also since my wife has done almost the exact same thing to here MDA and now it won't charge. She also broke the button on top to power on/off the phone. Is there a replacement part I can purchase for this?
Ok so I was so happy that I finally got XDA live .2 running on my 1.5 month old Hermes. This site has helped me to no end. Being completely new to the Windows mobile platform, I've made it a point to check the forums here every day and read up on issues/tricks & tips. My utmost respect to the folks here at XDA-Developers. In fact I just contributed some money I was so thrilled. I never had to post a question before.
Short lived :-(
Due to my own stupidity. I dropped my Hermes on the carpeted floor in my office. Now it wasn't a huge hit to the unit. It fell 2.5 feet and it was carpet.
I picked it up and hit the power key (It was sleeping before I dropped it) but no joy. I yanked the battery, waited a minute, replaced it. No Joy.. I've tried lots of stuff
1) With battery in place, soft reset
2) Without battery in place and attached to power.
3) removed battery, waited an hour, replaced battery. No power on. Re-attached power.. No power on.
So long story short, I can't power it up. I get a red light when attached to power with or without battery in place.
I am screwed? I'll cry! I have removed the sim-lock and I am Super CID on the phone. It's over a month old from Cingluar. Do I have any hope of getting it fixed/replaced/someone here suggesting a fix?
Any help appreciated. I saw a post on the red light when charging but nothing so far has helped.
I know they are many genius' here. I'll donate more to this awesome site regardless of getting this fixed. I just hope I don't have to fork out another $500 for a new unit.
What we don't know in your case is whether dropping the device has just triggered the infuriating Red LED issue that will come good or whether more serious damage has occurred.
You say you read a post re this and I assume it was this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1077622&postcount=6
The one thing I did not see that you tried is having charger plugged in with battery out and whilst remaining connected inserting the battery. Wait several seconds, hopefully LED changes to amber. However, though frustrating it may be worth repeating this kind of thing repeatedly until you are bored to tears! I say this because some folks find that it just seems to start eventually but they've tried so many things they cannot pin down what exactly the solution was.
If it's more serious - which I rather doubt (only 2.5ft to a carpeted floor) then you could try a disassembly and reconstruction. (I'm assuming you do not have warranty) I suggest this as the first time I got this, this is what I did and on re-assembly - hey presto it worked. Did not actually do anything but perhaps it helped with a loose connection or helped discharge the circuits and reset charging function??
Mike
Hi,
had the same issue! No function, only red light - with/without/new power plug, accu - only red light.
My device only layed on my table at home - overnight crash effect...
I had to bring in the device to service...
Now i have a new one with higher s/n and all is good again...
best
bax
Would having a second, fully charged battery help?
Sincerely,
Steve
It's going back to cingular.
Thanks for all the advice/help. Nothing seemed to work at all. Different battery, attching to power and inserting the abttery afterwards. However, I now can boot trhe unit, but I have to squeeze the sides of the unit (Or jam a piece os plastice bettwen the slide out keyboard) and the unit boots. Not very practical.
I contacted Cingular and a replacement is on the way. I put back on the original ROM that it shipped with and wiped everything else. I am Super CID, does this void my warranty? Will they even care? The issues is definietly HW so I hope they just can't power it up when they recieve it back. I'll play dumb anyway if they ask!
Now it's just trying to survive the next few days with either my SE P900 or My S710 (Sniff... sniff.. I want my Hermes back already)
Thanks again to all who posted advice.
ok i have never done this stuff before, i work on computers/cars not phones. however i just purchased an 8125 of ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160146080544&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=006)
could you guys help me try and figure out why id doesnt charge? and also if you guys could point me in the right direction as far as overclocking, programs, and such. please remember that i dont due this stuff so bare with me.
thanks in advance
Caps
no idea as to the charging issue... if you plug it in and the green blinking light changes to a steady orange, it should be charging. If you plug it into a USB port connected to your computer it charges super slow, a wall charger is better. It won't charge? or it won't hold a charge? Perhaps you need a new battery
As for the overclocking and good programs and everything, you might want to spend a few hours in your spare time just reading past threads, and using Search! Actually I'm not sure if search works, but google does... go to google and use search term like...
site:http://forum.xda-developers.com wizard overclock
the site: part is essential, it means google will only search for results on that website.
(the overclocking program is omapclock or something but it's better to read the posts to discover more about it)
well i have been reading stuff all over the place. the best one that i can find seems to be this one:
http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/843374-1.html
but i wanted some input from people who have actually used some of these.
capsisking said:
ok i have never done this stuff before, i work on computers/cars not phones. however i just purchased an 8125 of ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160146080544&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=006)
could you guys help me try and figure out why id doesnt charge? and also if you guys could point me in the right direction as far as overclocking, programs, and such. please remember that i dont due this stuff so bare with me.
thanks in advance
Caps
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Up for bidding a a Cingular AT&T 8125 cell phone pda pocket pc. Physical condition of this phone is perfect, with no scratches or any wear. Phone has a problem charging, when phone is plugged in the status LED blinks orange and the battery icon shows charging, but does not actually charge. USB connection to computer works fine but does not charge. If you put a charged battery in the phone it works fine. Other than that, the phone has no issues or problems and all of the features work fine. Auction includes: Phone, stylus, charger, wired stereo headphones, usb cable, quick start guide and software cd-rom. Bidding will start at $1.00 with no reserve. Shipping will be $12.00 and paypal is preferred. Any questions, feel free to ask. Thanks for looking.
My guess is it would be easier to by an external battery charger and whip the battery out to charge it something like this i guess?
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-cable-CHARG...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
As for overclocking try searching for an app called battery status. Can't remember which version is best for wizard overclocking but should be easy enough to find.
PJ
thanks for the info man, i bought this;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120152590410&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=002
cause i can charge the battery on the back while i sync the phone, but (and remember this is my first phone like this) i was told that if i take out the battery, or it dies that i will lose all my memory on the phone.
I'm thinking your mini usb connector on the phone is faulty. Does it sync?
he says it does, i dont know yet the phone gets here in the morning if usps doesnt suck today... so it might be here wednesday
I can safely say i know sod all about usb connections but the one on my old wizard started playing up (wouldn't charge and wouldn't sync).
By pure coincidence after leaving it in a drawer with about 40% battery for a couple of weeks i thought i'd see about fixing it got it out and it just worked (from usb and mains charger) so i didnt need to tinker with it at all
Good luck
anyone else?
anyone? any advise at all?
capsisking said:
ok i have never done this stuff before, i work on computers/cars not phones. however i just purchased an 8125 of ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160146080544&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=006)
could you guys help me try and figure out why id doesnt charge? and also if you guys could point me in the right direction as far as overclocking, programs, and such. please remember that i dont due this stuff so bare with me.
thanks in advance
Caps
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Are you talking about the battery not charging when you are at home? If so, it's possible you could have the wrong charger. You can find this out by charging the battery from the USB cable to a PC. I've attached the new version of battery status for the overclocking and other options. I would suggest you search first in the future for any other issues that may arise. Search Forum
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capsisking said:
thanks for the info man, i bought this;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=120152590410&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=002
cause i can charge the battery on the back while i sync the phone, but (and remember this is my first phone like this) i was told that if i take out the battery, or it dies that i will lose all my memory on the phone.
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That's "horse hockey". You'll lose only data that has not already been saved in memory. When you hard re-set the device is when all data will be lost if it's not backed up on a computer, and not by removing or your battery being drained....
Hi,
Sorry, this is not a development question per se, but is the Hermes supposed to power on without a battery when plugged in with a wall charger?
I get a red light on the top-right, but the unit doesn't power on. Maybe I have a defective unit. I have the Cingular branded version.
defective unit
yes u have a defective unit.
I suggest you box it back up and take it back to the place you bought it as your to stupid to only this glorious phone.
?
I think you were trying to insult me with your poor grammar?
Yes
You can use the phone without the batter while plugged in. You have to follow these steps exactly...
1. get a a glass of whater.
2. wrap tin foil around your finger.
3. plug in the charger and connect it to the phone. make sure you leave the back of the phone exposed.
4. place your finger with the tin foil on it in the glas of water.
5. touch your tongue to the gold batter contacts on the back of the phone and press the power button.
This method will work..
Good luck.
Sorry man this is not possible. I checked just now coz I never bothered to do it before but today i looked on your question and tested it but nope it is not booting up. Just the red light. So u need the battery to use it.
Some people tries to increase their posts on the forum to become members from junior members. So don't mind and don't become one of them coz you are new to this forum so just be creative and straight. Hope u don't mind if u found my wordings hard.
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Sorry man this is not possible. I checked just now coz I never bothered to do it before but today i looked on your question and tested it but nope it is not booting up. Just the red light. So u need the battery to use it.
Some people tries to increase their posts on the forum to become members from junior members. So don't mind and don't become one of them coz you are new to this forum so just be creative and straight. Hope u don't mind if u found my wordings hard.
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A good answer - unlike some of our "funny" guys above.
Mike
ok fair point, was just a bit of fun, but why would you want to use the phone without the battery installed and just plugged in?
i believe all mobile phone from htc tend to be able to do this.
Thanks beastfellow
Confirmed. Just tested and neither of my Hermes will start without a battery
all my Hermes work without a battery!
I just plug them in when testing them out or whatever as I don't always want to have the bulk of a battery on them sometimes, and they still boot up and run ok. Must be a lot of faulty Hermes out there.
It shouldn't start without the battery as the battery is an integral part of the device. If anyone's device truly does start without a battery attached -- which I doubt -- there's something wrong with it. Also, I'm not sure why someone would go through all the bother of pulling the battery out only to then plug it in and use it on AC power.
Reading some of the questions here it's become apparent that some people try to do really odd things with this thing only to think something is wrong when it doesn't work as they want it to. It might not be bad advice to read the user's manual to learn about how PDA Phones are supposed to be used, and instead of acting shocked when they don't work outside of those parameters just accepting the device's limitations.
I know we live in postmodern times where everyone has the freedom to define their own realities, but some of you take this a bit too far. There is at least one question a day here where someone is upset or confused by these things not doing what they were never intended to do.
hmmm... it may be based on the charger itself. I haven't tried any of mine yet (will check later today) but I wonder no battery powerup has something to do with using the stock Hermes charger (1Amp) v.s. others
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hmmm... it may be based on the charger itself. I haven't tried any of mine yet (will check later today) but I wonder no battery powerup has something to do with using the stock Hermes charger (1Amp) v.s. others
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You may be correct. I tried with a USB connection as I was reading the post on the computer. Will try later with the charger at home.
I read somewhere in wiki about fix white boot up screen. One of the ways to fix it was to take out the battery and use the wall charger... However, when i tried it, it didnt work... so i juz hard reset it and it worked =) might be the reason why he is asking about the battery thing... for all the spammer with post counts... lol sad
Tried my 8525 with 1Amp charger & no battery. Got red (not orange) charging indicator and it wouldn't boot. HTH!
heat
the only reason you would want your hermes to boot up with the battery is say for example, you were going to use it as a modem via usb.
we all know that the phone doesnt get hot, the only thing that heats the whole thing up is the battery.
So to get extra life out of your hermes and keep it cooler, run it without a battery!
I would surmise that circuitry in the battery (if the unit got too hot) would reset the phone to prevent the thing fom setting itself on fire.
i've got my c500 from a friend.
the problem is that it doesn't start at all.
i tried the hard reset method, i tried pressing the camera button and then inserting the usb cable and nothing.
this is my first spv phone so i really dont know the deal with them...
can this phone charge from usb? or do i need a wall socket charger? (i dont have one).
my first real problem is how to start the darn thing the phone worked great a couple of months ago, i dont know what he did to it in this time, but i really want it to work again, so, if anybody has any ideas, i'll be glad to try them out.
thank you for reading.
Is jump starting the battery an option ??
If the Typhoon is anything like the wizard ( 8125 )- sounds like the battery is dead. Unfortunately - dead to the point where it is not strong enough to even start the phone.
There are a few "jump start" options - which I can direct you to, but someone with more knowledge on the typhoon battery will need to respond first.
I am not comfortable giving advise on a model I have little knowledge of. We have an audiovox smt 5600 - but have not really done anything with it, other than update the rom.
If someone can confirm that the procedure is safe - I can copy the post so you can give it a shot.
Yep, sounds like a dead battery to me too. Usually that only means that the phone has to be charged a few hours extra before it wakes up (during the first few hours of charging the phone may not even light up, just leave it plugged in anyway). The phone charges fine over USB, no wall charger required but it takes a little longer.
You can get new batteries off ebay for £5 if it is completely dead.
i dont really know what that means...
this is what i did...
i measured the Volts of the battery with a volt-meter and it showed me that it was dead.
i took a moto e398 and wire-connected the battery to the phone and i left it to charge. it did...i now have some volts in my battery...the problem is that it doesnt start at all!
not even the little led blinks...
i really have no ideas...my friend said that the left soft key doesn't work so good so i'm thinking that the 'right& left soft keys + start button' tehnique wont work so good...
i'll give you all the details you need.. i just need to know if anything can be done to make this baby work again...